I did a bunch of recording on that SansAmp in the late 90s. I bought the Behringer during the pandemic when Zoom meetings were taking place in the house all day, and my practice had to go to headphones. It’s not exact, but I think it’s close enough… and in some ways I prefer the sound of the Behringer. The Tweed clean sound is useful in a direct practice/ recording setting, and with a touch of compression and verb, it can actually sound pretty great.
Awesome video! This is how pedals should be reviewed when comparing them, well done! If I had the money, I would get the SansAmp, but I don't so I got the Behringer. I also have the Joyo British on order, but hasn't gotten here yet. The Behringer really sounds like a Marshall or Fender amp, from comparing it to the gear I have. SansAmp came up with an awesome design.
I've a Joyo (Behringer) bass preamp & a Soniccake acoustic preamp sitting next to my expensive Walrus, Boss, etc pedals. They simply sound good for the price.
The Behringer sounds awesome with bass - there’s on vid on here that blew me away so much I’ve ordered one. I play fretless & fretted bass & looking for a crunch pedal to compliment my HM-2 that can get a bit fatiguing after a while.
What’s wrong with a plastic enclosure? These Behringer pedals have been around for a good while now and i’ve never heard of a single one ever breaking.
Great video as always Jason. Im a tech 21 fan boy and have a few gt2s and tri acs in my playing experience. Tech 21 was cutting edge in the 90s but everyone has caught up. With smaller venue gigging these days i find i go through a blues driver.....i guess our tastes change with time. I dont want to sell them though. Keep up the great videos😊
Had one GT2 years ago, but soon sold it again, also the Oxford pedal, did not convince me so much, to be honest. But what I still have, is a decades old Award Session JD-10 (Mk. 2.3), which, with a good (212/412) cab IR behind still sounds better to me than a lot of contemporary digital solutions. Even the built-in simple cab/speaker emulation is not so bad, but luckily also deacivatable. Only two channels, a Tweed and a Plexi channel, which in this version even overlap a little, while in older version the channels differed more, but the sounds did not convinve me so much, this one was the best and most balanced sounding for me, the older one I also soon sold again.) From the GT2 I have two plugins, which for me sound even better than the real pedal does. if you really like it's sounds, the Arturia Dist OPAMP-21 is a gem with even a lot more features, but also the freeware AXP SoftAmp GT sounds very good, although it meanwhile is pretty old. Nevertheless, if you like it's sounds, the GT2 is a simple no-brainer pedal, of course real tube amps most probably sound better and are more flexible adjustable, but there also are worse sounding solutions around. Another advantage, meanhwile you get it really cheap used often (Already have seen it for about USD/EUR 120,- to even 100,- meanwhile in Europe and for this price I definitely preferred buying the GT2 instead of the TAM. If I had not the JD-10.) The cheap Behringer pedals up to now did not convince me so much, have the Noise Gate, which extremely alters the sound, so I replaced it with a linked pair of Decimator II's, which are much more expensive, but do the job much better and the sound remains the original one. On the other hand the Behringer Small Stone phaser clone sounds nice to me, so does the Mutron Bi-Phase clone and even my audio interface is a Behringer and does it's job well.
Jason I forgot to mention. I had a regular weekend gig at a Greek restaurant playing all sorts of stuff depending on the customers. It was a straight to PA gig. With a Tech 21 Paradriver DI and the the GT2 together it responded well. The XLR input did the trick i found. It would never replace tubes but it was a great quick fix. Scoop the mids to 10 o clock and add the gt2.....it worked.
I have the GT2 since... 20 years ? It's really useful to have it for live shows in your case "just in case" (lol) of an amp failure. It's incredibly awesome when plugged directly in the mix, with the cleanest sound as possible, and a big ginormous distorsion between the guitar and the GT2 (I did it with a DOD Death Metal)
I had the original version (the one with the little switches) back in the day, and it was amazing to pair with my Fostex tape recorder. However, technology has come a long way, and now I’d say it sounds “just okay.” There are plenty of other options out there that work better for recording or as a drive pedal. If you’re after that specific sound, I’d recommend going with the Behringer alternative. But if you’re a big Nirvana fan or just love vintage gear, the original is worth picking up. Personally, in 2024, I went with the plugin versions (same for the Rockman) for a nostalgic trip down memory lane.
As a beginner, the Behringer TM300 has been great for getting closer to tube-like flute than anything else in my solid state armoury. What I've done is put the CS300 ahead of the TM300 and use said TM300 as the pre-amp before my dirt chain. I'm messing with the BD2 before and after to see which gives the better "edge of breakup" sound on the clean channels. I definitely use a DS1 set just high enough to get that speaker clipping edge on the chuncks with the right signal intensity. An SD1 after that to push the tone's mids. But still yet, an EQ7 pedal to clean up the signal and/or blend. Really happy doing AC/DC on low low gain Plex-like and early Metallica at just Mesa-like. Now that I know the bass may yet be too heavy, I'll retry slightly reduced. Readjust my EQ pedal if need be. But also for Xmas I'm getting the Tube Pilot. I know it's a starved voltage tube but the circuit may add the colouring to TM300 fluting that helps make it even more tube amp-like.
PS: That's just explaining the chain at it's most diverse. I've found great sounds for my DS1 & BD2. Admittedly, while I like my single coils without a mid boost ala TS circuit, I do use a Behringer SF300 as a signal "loudness" boost pedal. It definitely effects chorus and gain on dirt. But I'm new and not in a band. I do have a bass EQ7 pedal just before my delay/trem/vib multi-effects pedal so that I not only make up for sound needs to be clearer, I can quickly adust a tone into a band setting by making sonic pockets. Music theory I need a lot on, pedal theory, not so much.
Thanks for a great video as akways 👍. I think the Behringer overdrives, distortions and modellers are as good as most of us spare-room axe warriors will ever need...and it saves us a fortune...not to mention our marriages 😂. Their modulation effects are not so great, however, in my inexpert hands.
Hard for me to comment, given that I don't play that sort of high gain sound, ever. I didn't really like either sound that much, but they both sounded right for what you were doing I suppose. I think you were right about the fizziness of the SansAmp cutting through in a possible mix. You really had to dial back the tone on the Behringer to get some sort of equity. Interested to hear the thoughts of others who probably play more high gain guitar than I do. Always enjoy your videos. Cheers.
I like the Tube Modeler's sound better because it has a better low-end response. I would buy the Behringer, unless I needed something to cut through a mix, which I don't; there, I said it.
You could have set the EQ to sound the same. You have to use your ears. Just setting the knobs without listening isn’t how to do ir. Same with the gain.
Oh nooo! The Behringer sounds better! Had one I loved but ya can't gig with em though cause they fall apart during heavy use. Everyone I've used, seriously 😥😥
I have an original Sansamp. Actual original, not remake ‘original classic’ or whatever. I’m not saying it’s better but I’ve had it over 30 years and it’s never given me a problem. The DIP switches remain annoying but I tend to use it as a treble boost into (or sometimes after) a Klone.
I've *NEVER* heard of these failing. And even though I've not personally used one, I've known metric tons of people who lived by it, back when I was working for Tower Records.
I have a bias against Behringer for using plastic enclosures that I can’t get over. Even if they sound exactly the same as the pedal they are copying, I will never buy a Behringer. I do like Joyo pedals, which are doing the same thing and also made in China. There is also the “it” factor. At the end of the day all electronics can sound the same but what is the “it” that people perceive as value that brings a used price close to or more than original if selling the pedal down the road.
I did a bunch of recording on that SansAmp in the late 90s.
I bought the Behringer during the pandemic when Zoom meetings were taking place in the house all day, and my practice had to go to headphones.
It’s not exact, but I think it’s close enough… and in some ways I prefer the sound of the Behringer.
The Tweed clean sound is useful in a direct practice/ recording setting, and with a touch of compression and verb, it can actually sound pretty great.
@edlib02169 I'd agree with that, it's close but not exact.
Awesome video! This is how pedals should be reviewed when comparing them, well done! If I had the money, I would get the SansAmp, but I don't so I got the Behringer. I also have the Joyo British on order, but hasn't gotten here yet. The Behringer really sounds like a Marshall or Fender amp, from comparing it to the gear I have. SansAmp came up with an awesome design.
I've a Joyo (Behringer) bass preamp & a Soniccake acoustic preamp sitting next to my expensive Walrus, Boss, etc pedals. They simply sound good for the price.
Joyo isn’t Behringer
@@douglasmullen7596 I just read up on that tyvm. I mixed up some rebranding in me head.
The Behringer sounds awesome with bass - there’s on vid on here that blew me away so much I’ve ordered one. I play fretless & fretted bass & looking for a crunch pedal to compliment my HM-2 that can get a bit fatiguing after a while.
What’s wrong with a plastic enclosure? These Behringer pedals have been around for a good while now and i’ve never heard of a single one ever breaking.
Great video as always Jason. Im a tech 21 fan boy and have a few gt2s and tri acs in my playing experience. Tech 21 was cutting edge in the 90s but everyone has caught up. With smaller venue gigging these days i find i go through a blues driver.....i guess our tastes change with time. I dont want to sell them though. Keep up the great videos😊
Had one GT2 years ago, but soon sold it again, also the Oxford pedal, did not convince me so much, to be honest. But what I still have, is a decades old Award Session JD-10 (Mk. 2.3), which, with a good (212/412) cab IR behind still sounds better to me than a lot of contemporary digital solutions. Even the built-in simple cab/speaker emulation is not so bad, but luckily also deacivatable. Only two channels, a Tweed and a Plexi channel, which in this version even overlap a little, while in older version the channels differed more, but the sounds did not convinve me so much, this one was the best and most balanced sounding for me, the older one I also soon sold again.)
From the GT2 I have two plugins, which for me sound even better than the real pedal does.
if you really like it's sounds, the Arturia Dist OPAMP-21 is a gem with even a lot more features, but also the freeware AXP SoftAmp GT sounds very good, although it meanwhile is pretty old.
Nevertheless, if you like it's sounds, the GT2 is a simple no-brainer pedal, of course real tube amps most probably sound better and are more flexible adjustable, but there also are worse sounding solutions around. Another advantage, meanhwile you get it really cheap used often (Already have seen it for about USD/EUR 120,- to even 100,- meanwhile in Europe and for this price I definitely preferred buying the GT2 instead of the TAM. If I had not the JD-10.)
The cheap Behringer pedals up to now did not convince me so much, have the Noise Gate, which extremely alters the sound, so I replaced it with a linked pair of Decimator II's, which are much more expensive, but do the job much better and the sound remains the original one. On the other hand the Behringer Small Stone phaser clone sounds nice to me, so does the Mutron Bi-Phase clone and even my audio interface is a Behringer and does it's job well.
Jason I forgot to mention. I had a regular weekend gig at a Greek restaurant playing all sorts of stuff depending on the customers. It was a straight to PA gig. With a Tech 21 Paradriver DI and the the GT2 together it responded well. The XLR input did the trick i found. It would never replace tubes but it was a great quick fix. Scoop the mids to 10 o clock and add the gt2.....it worked.
Ive owned both as distortion pedals to an amp and kept the Behrenger. Its more dialed in to my ears
G'day Jason,
I don't care what you do, just give us more Silverchair!!! 😀
Andrew
I'd love to see / hear a comparison between the behringer and something like a Helix or Tonex or similar.....
I have the GT2 since... 20 years ?
It's really useful to have it for live shows in your case "just in case" (lol) of an amp failure.
It's incredibly awesome when plugged directly in the mix, with the cleanest sound as possible, and a big ginormous distorsion between the guitar and the GT2 (I did it with a DOD Death Metal)
I have a Tri-OD and connect a a M-Wave IR Box after it. =>> Recording Setup
I had the original version (the one with the little switches) back in the day, and it was amazing to pair with my Fostex tape recorder. However, technology has come a long way, and now I’d say it sounds “just okay.” There are plenty of other options out there that work better for recording or as a drive pedal. If you’re after that specific sound, I’d recommend going with the Behringer alternative. But if you’re a big Nirvana fan or just love vintage gear, the original is worth picking up. Personally, in 2024, I went with the plugin versions (same for the Rockman) for a nostalgic trip down memory lane.
As a beginner, the Behringer TM300 has been great for getting closer to tube-like flute than anything else in my solid state armoury.
What I've done is put the CS300 ahead of the TM300 and use said TM300 as the pre-amp before my dirt chain.
I'm messing with the BD2 before and after to see which gives the better "edge of breakup" sound on the clean channels.
I definitely use a DS1 set just high enough to get that speaker clipping edge on the chuncks with the right signal intensity.
An SD1 after that to push the tone's mids.
But still yet, an EQ7 pedal to clean up the signal and/or blend.
Really happy doing AC/DC on low low gain Plex-like and early Metallica at just Mesa-like.
Now that I know the bass may yet be too heavy, I'll retry slightly reduced. Readjust my EQ pedal if need be.
But also for Xmas I'm getting the Tube Pilot. I know it's a starved voltage tube but the circuit may add the colouring to TM300 fluting that helps make it even more tube amp-like.
PS: That's just explaining the chain at it's most diverse.
I've found great sounds for my DS1 & BD2.
Admittedly, while I like my single coils without a mid boost ala TS circuit, I do use a Behringer SF300 as a signal "loudness" boost pedal.
It definitely effects chorus and gain on dirt.
But I'm new and not in a band.
I do have a bass EQ7 pedal just before my delay/trem/vib multi-effects pedal so that I not only make up for sound needs to be clearer, I can quickly adust a tone into a band setting by making sonic pockets.
Music theory I need a lot on, pedal theory, not so much.
I still have mine it sounds good with a Roland micro cube amp into a 10 or 12 inch 4 oume speaker cab.
Have you tried add an IR after them tô plug in LINE?
Should Sound great too
Thanks for a great video as akways 👍. I think the Behringer overdrives, distortions and modellers are as good as most of us spare-room axe warriors will ever need...and it saves us a fortune...not to mention our marriages 😂. Their modulation effects are not so great, however, in my inexpert hands.
Hard for me to comment, given that I don't play that sort of high gain sound, ever. I didn't really like either sound that much, but they both sounded right for what you were doing I suppose. I think you were right about the fizziness of the SansAmp cutting through in a possible mix. You really had to dial back the tone on the Behringer to get some sort of equity. Interested to hear the thoughts of others who probably play more high gain guitar than I do. Always enjoy your videos. Cheers.
I like the Tube Modeler's sound better because it has a better low-end response. I would buy the Behringer, unless I needed something to cut through a mix, which I don't; there, I said it.
My question is the gt2 sound like the original sansamp that Kurt Cobain used?
agrre with what you said about their differences.
You could have set the EQ to sound the same. You have to use your ears. Just setting the knobs without listening isn’t how to do ir. Same with the gain.
Oh nooo! The Behringer sounds better! Had one I loved but ya can't gig with em though cause they fall apart during heavy use. Everyone I've used, seriously 😥😥
Too bad the things that make you mad are my favorite things!
TM300 only £23 on Amazon
Not sure if they’re better now, but those SansAmps used to fail a lot .
@@75YBA really 🤔
I have an original Sansamp. Actual original, not remake ‘original classic’ or whatever. I’m not saying it’s better but I’ve had it over 30 years and it’s never given me a problem. The DIP switches remain annoying but I tend to use it as a treble boost into (or sometimes after) a Klone.
I've *NEVER* heard of these failing. And even though I've not personally used one, I've known metric tons of people who lived by it, back when I was working for Tower Records.
Why 400$? Gt2 brand new is 220$. And you can buy used from 100$.
I had a Behringer Tube Amp Modeller. Let me tell ya, this thing has a 2K? tone that is always there. Terrible.
If it sounds better in front of an amp, then it's not doing its "amp modeler" job - get something else.
I have a bias against Behringer for using plastic enclosures that I can’t get over. Even if they sound exactly the same as the pedal they are copying, I will never buy a Behringer. I do like Joyo pedals, which are doing the same thing and also made in China. There is also the “it” factor. At the end of the day all electronics can sound the same but what is the “it” that people perceive as value that brings a used price close to or more than original if selling the pedal down the road.