Glad to see you put up a video again. Definetly the lack of skilled workers isnt limited to mechanics.the new generation cant comprehend hard work, long hours and short pay.
Hey Micheal, great to hear from you! You know I honestly feel that a dealership should just sell cars and the automotive maker should have separate service facilities to take care of their customers. That way the cost of ownership is determined by the service department and not the sales department. That way maintenance is determined by actual geological location instead of a sales aspect. What do you think?
@jillybean1108 that is a great idea. With the labor rates of the stealerships today most average working class people can't afford to have them work on cars. Unfortunately all of us in the private sector have had to send people that way. I don't know if being a separate entity would help lower that cost though.
@ You are right most working class folks cannot read afford dealership labor rates. The dealerships overhead is so high. That is the reason why they charge what they charge for the most part. I guess I’ll have to figure out a way to get artificial intelligence to do oil changes and brakes lol!
Been turning wrenches for 25 years. Got in the industry after I got out of the Infantry at 24 years of age. I'm leaving the Industry in about a year before I hit the age of 50. I've seen it time and time again, guy hits 50, slows down, body wears out, he pushed out the door with nothing to fall back on. That's not going to be me.
Yes, you are exactly right. The experienced master technicians are getting all of the crap work such as warranty issues electrical issues. And the newcomers are getting all the gravy work being misled to believe it’s going to be a rewarding career.
That’s exactly what the shop foreman told me at the Honda shop I started at. The more you let them know the less you’re gonna get paid. Simply because you’re gonna get all the comebacks from the bad mechanics and crap warranty work.
Why the hell would someone go to school now for 2 years and spend all that money or go into debt just to make $15/hour as a lube tech to "pay dues" when everything cost a fraction back then what it does now? And people flipping burgers or taking out trash or just walking around buildings doing security work make the same or more with no schooling?!
@jillybean1108 but you're saying they should be paying dues like the current old timers did. Or are you just repeating their complaints but don't believe it yourself?
I’m not a professional mechanic but agree that most young people don’t understand “paying dues”… they typically expect to have what their parents have right from the start. However, I do believe in paying a living wage. My son is young and some time left to go before he enters the labor force, but started talking about this career path. The cost of living in New England is so high that you have to give these folks a good wage to start out, especially now that you can make $19 an hour bagging groceries at age 15. The skill level required is rapidly increasing for auto technicians and you need a solid analytical mind and deserves at least $35 an hour apprentice pay, if not more in my opinion. The flat rate system seems to be feast or famine but that looks like it is evolving a bit with some places offering guarantees. They also need to bring back shop class in high schools to get kids exposed
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Glad to see you put up a video again. Definetly the lack of skilled workers isnt limited to mechanics.the new generation cant comprehend hard work, long hours and short pay.
Hey Micheal, great to hear from you! You know I honestly feel that a dealership should just sell cars and the automotive maker should have separate service facilities to take care of their customers. That way the cost of ownership is determined by the service department and not the sales department. That way maintenance is determined by actual geological location instead of a sales aspect. What do you think?
@jillybean1108 that is a great idea. With the labor rates of the stealerships today most average working class people can't afford to have them work on cars. Unfortunately all of us in the private sector have had to send people that way. I don't know if being a separate entity would help lower that cost though.
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You are right most working class folks cannot read afford dealership labor rates. The dealerships overhead is so high. That is the reason why they charge what they charge for the most part. I guess I’ll have to figure out a way to get artificial intelligence to do oil changes and brakes lol!
Love to hear more!
Been turning wrenches for 25 years. Got in the industry after I got out of the Infantry at 24 years of age. I'm leaving the Industry in about a year before I hit the age of 50.
I've seen it time and time again, guy hits 50, slows down, body wears out, he pushed out the door with nothing to fall back on.
That's not going to be me.
Simply put mechanics used to earn 50% of the door rate , most places now its more like 20%
tools and knowledge are not free
Yes, you are exactly right. The experienced master technicians are getting all of the crap work such as warranty issues electrical issues. And the newcomers are getting all the gravy work being misled to believe it’s going to be a rewarding career.
@@jillybean1108 it is the only trade that the more you know the less you make
That’s exactly what the shop foreman told me at the Honda shop I started at. The more you let them know the less you’re gonna get paid. Simply because you’re gonna get all the comebacks from the bad mechanics and crap warranty work.
@@jillybean1108 oh so very true,
@ nice chatting with you if you could hit the like button that would be awesome!
Why the hell would someone go to school now for 2 years and spend all that money or go into debt just to make $15/hour as a lube tech to "pay dues" when everything cost a fraction back then what it does now?
And people flipping burgers or taking out trash or just walking around buildings doing security work make the same or more with no schooling?!
Exactly!
@jillybean1108 but you're saying they should be paying dues like the current old timers did. Or are you just repeating their complaints but don't believe it yourself?
I’m not a professional mechanic but agree that most young people don’t understand “paying dues”… they typically expect to have what their parents have right from the start. However, I do believe in paying a living wage. My son is young and some time left to go before he enters the labor force, but started talking about this career path. The cost of living in New England is so high that you have to give these folks a good wage to start out, especially now that you can make $19 an hour bagging groceries at age 15. The skill level required is rapidly increasing for auto technicians and you need a solid analytical mind and deserves at least $35 an hour apprentice pay, if not more in my opinion. The flat rate system seems to be feast or famine but that looks like it is evolving a bit with some places offering guarantees. They also need to bring back shop class in high schools to get kids exposed
I started out in 1981 at 18 and did it for 30 years. It was a good career but if I had to start working in today world I’d do something different.
Yes I wish that I would have gotten into real estate
Their isn’t no shortage of idiots working on cars their is a shortage of talent and pay
You nailed it right on the head!