Cost of the mufflers, then they over charge you for optional baffles. I pulled mine out and made a few measurements, then found $15 baffles and $8 fiberglass off Amazon instead of the $90 ea. from Vance. Buddy has exact same pipes with the quite baffles, and my bike with Amazon parts is substantially quiter for fraction of cost.
I had trouble getting the old baffles out with my needle nose pliers so I screwed the baffle mounting screw back in halfway from the inside and looped some nylon cord around it to yank them right out.
2-3 decibels is not worth the cost of the replacement baffles. What you really want is a change in the tone of the exhaust. Some quiet baffles keep that low idle rumble and they eliminate that raspy noise when you accelerate.
My quiet baffle did not go in anything like this video shows. It went in 3/4 of the way and got very stuck and it was incredibly hard to get it in the rest of the way I wound up using a rubber hammer and had a bitch of a time, twisting it just right so that the screw alignment would line up. I think that the fiberglass should be much tighter wound as the ones I got were very “puffy” which made it incredibly tight going in.
2-3 dB is nearly half as much sound pressure. These make a big difference over the standard baffle as far as noise go, but they still sound very good. I think they have a nice mellow sound to them over standards. I have a set of quiet baffles on these shorts shots in my dyna video: ua-cam.com/video/jhEsy0zdPHI/v-deo.html
Thank god it wasn't just me, haha! I just installed quiet baffles in my uncle's 1200 Sporty last weekend and the heat shields were 1000% the worst part of this process. I also see he scratched the piss out of the pipes, so I feel a lot better about what I did, hahaha!
I have stock 2014 Harley Street glide mufflers on my Yamaha royal star venture. I think they look better than the stock, Yamaha mufflers, and they are absolutely higher quality. They are chromed and polished all the way around the muffler. but I wanna make the stock harley mufflers much quieter. They are just too loud, even though they are completely stock harley mufflers. I cannot find a perfect set of stock, Yamaha mufflers to replace my stock Yamaha mufflers that are scarred up from dragging around corners.. do any companies make baffles that I can install in my Harley mufflers to make it quieter. I have heard some Harley motorcycles that are as quiet as the old BMW airhead motorcycles were back in the 60s and 70s before BMW tried to outdo the Japanese by coming out with the K bikes in the 80s.. I have owned three Yamaha ventures since 1986, I have hundreds of thousands of miles combined on those three bikes, my first one I actually kept for 16 years, 138,000 trouble-free miles. my second Venture, I did put Harley road king mufflers on because when I bought that bike used, it had open pipes on it. I wouldn’t even ride it until I located mufflers. I could not find stock mufflers anywhere for the first few months, but I had read that Harley road king mufflers go right on, which they did when I bought them on eBay. I cannot believe how cheaply they sell those mufflers for on eBay. I got a set of takeoffs that had less than 50 miles on them since new for $40 with free shipping.. The guy shipped them to me in his Reinhart muffler box. His new mufflers came in. There are literally dozens of sets of harley mufflers at any moment on eBay for very cheap… I have even seen practically new takeoffs listed on craigslist for A six pack of beer. The guy said it doesn’t even have to be cold. so does anybody know of a company out there is making baffles to make stock harley mufflers a little less loud?
The video only showed one standard baffle removed, does the Short Shots only has one installed on the upper exhaust or is there another one on the bottom? Please advise, thank you.
I suffer from temporary minor hearing loss and ringing in my right ear everytime I ride my bike and it's because the pipes are too loud. Vance & Hine's tells me they don't have quiet baffles for my V&H pipes. Now I'm stuck with them and I will never recommend V&H to anyone. Screw a company that won't help their customer.
@@roseconley6306 They are the vance and hines staggered big shots. I understand that they don't make them anymore. You can call kawasaki and ask what pipes were made for the VN900B classic
hello instaled that on my mufflers and now i cant take out . i feel that the cushion move all for a corner and now i have a big ball inside the muffler and that is the reason. any solution ?
I bought the super quiet baffles for my long shots and they did absolutely nothing,now am waiting on Big City quiet thunder monster baffles #QBL 1994 to see if they work 😖
That's surprising as those baffles typically drop the dB level by about 4-5 dB. What kind of baffle was previously installed, and why do you feel it didn't do anything?
Vance & Hines The long shots on my 2000 Heritage Softail had the stock baffles,bike has a103 stroker kit installed,hopefully Big City baffles will quiet down my ride!
I ordered these from my dealer and when they came in I asked them about the nice white packing cloth; was it to stay on or come off. The guy figured it was supposed to come off. I haven't thrown it away fortunately but I did take the tape that was holding it together off. Does the tape come off anyways or is it supposed to stay?
Cloth and tape stay on. It's just clear packing tape, so you can tape it back on and re-install with the cloth. It will make a big difference in noise when installed with the packing.
The fiberglass cloth is supposed to stay on. The plastic cellophane wrap comes off. I'm sure it would melt quickly if you left it on there. Plus there is no airflow through the plastic, so to me it makes sense the cellophane should come off while the fiberglass wrap stays.
Let's see the one where you get the quiet baffles back out when they are melted in with burnei plastic re-enforced with glass fibre and carbon. Hint: don't try it with the pipes still on the bike.
I'm going to get a mini bike off road but i could also you it in road if i pit certain things on it but i need to make it quieter and well i really hope this is the answer for it and plz if can make a video about a mini bike making it quieter. ..i will really like it
Nice. There is subtle difference in sound, but the person who rides the bike for long can only tell. Short stacks are unbearable. I sold my bike just because I couldn't handle the loudness. I wish I had known this product earlier.
Cost of the mufflers, then they over charge you for optional baffles.
I pulled mine out and made a few measurements, then found $15 baffles and $8 fiberglass off Amazon instead of the $90 ea. from Vance. Buddy has exact same pipes with the quite baffles, and my bike with Amazon parts is substantially quiter for fraction of cost.
Attaq Boy. You gotta be like that, use our heads to save a buck .
Hi @kennethduffield8684 could you link me to the items you bought please? I just wasted a bunch of money picking up stock mufflers that won't fit.
Could you list parts please you used for baffles & packing?????
Do you have a link to the baffles on Amazon? I just bought a VN900 with twin slash and it is way to effing loud after an hour of riding...
The best I could suggest is to measure the opening and search for something that size. I don't remember the exact ones I got off Amazon
I had trouble getting the old baffles out with my needle nose pliers so I screwed the baffle mounting screw back in halfway from the inside and looped some nylon cord around it to yank them right out.
Hi...can I put packing material on my short shots standard baffle ?..
2-3 decibels is not worth the cost of the replacement baffles. What you really want is a change in the tone of the exhaust. Some quiet baffles keep that low idle rumble and they eliminate that raspy noise when you accelerate.
Yes, the 2-3db changes the feel more than the output, though 2-3db is a good amount considering it's an exponential scale
@@vanceandhines exponential?
@@emmessveemusic902 it is 2x as loud. DB levels are not linear.
Db levels are not linear
@@vanceandhines - No, it's a logarithmic scale.
I couldnt hear any difirence betwen the before or after sound, why should i then buy them?
My quiet baffle did not go in anything like this video shows. It went in 3/4 of the way and got very stuck and it was incredibly hard to get it in the rest of the way I wound up using a rubber hammer and had a bitch of a time, twisting it just right so that the screw alignment would line up. I think that the fiberglass should be much tighter wound as the ones I got were very “puffy” which made it incredibly tight going in.
Hi, im installing these soon butbwonder what size bolt/screw i need to hold the baffles in? Thanks
Glad to hear you like Tycho too
This looks like the baffle that comes in the Twin Slash for the Bolt. Is it?
Im trying to make the Twin Slash for the bolt quieter than it is.
2-3 dB is nearly half as much sound pressure. These make a big difference over the standard baffle as far as noise go, but they still sound very good. I think they have a nice mellow sound to them over standards. I have a set of quiet baffles on these shorts shots in my dyna video: ua-cam.com/video/jhEsy0zdPHI/v-deo.html
Couldn't hear any discernible difference between "before" & "after" ? Lol
@Justice Duke why don't you get a proper job instead of scamming people
Product code please for this ? Will this fit Long Shots as well ?
Well, they certainly made removal of the heat shield look easier than it is.
Thank god it wasn't just me, haha! I just installed quiet baffles in my uncle's 1200 Sporty last weekend and the heat shields were 1000% the worst part of this process. I also see he scratched the piss out of the pipes, so I feel a lot better about what I did, hahaha!
I have stock 2014 Harley Street glide mufflers on my Yamaha royal star venture. I think they look better than the stock, Yamaha mufflers, and they are absolutely higher quality. They are chromed and polished all the way around the muffler.
but I wanna make the stock harley mufflers much quieter. They are just too loud, even though they are completely stock harley mufflers.
I cannot find a perfect set of stock, Yamaha mufflers to replace my stock Yamaha mufflers that are scarred up from dragging around corners..
do any companies make baffles that I can install in my Harley mufflers to make it quieter. I have heard some Harley motorcycles that are as quiet as the old BMW airhead motorcycles were back in the 60s and 70s before BMW tried to outdo the Japanese by coming out with the K bikes in the 80s..
I have owned three Yamaha ventures since 1986, I have hundreds of thousands of miles combined on those three bikes, my first one I actually kept for 16 years, 138,000 trouble-free miles.
my second Venture, I did put Harley road king mufflers on because when I bought that bike used, it had open pipes on it. I wouldn’t even ride it until I located mufflers. I could not find stock mufflers anywhere for the first few months, but I had read that Harley road king mufflers go right on, which they did when I bought them on eBay. I cannot believe how cheaply they sell those mufflers for on eBay. I got a set of takeoffs that had less than 50 miles on them since new for $40 with free shipping.. The guy shipped them to me in his Reinhart muffler box. His new mufflers came in. There are literally dozens of sets of harley mufflers at any moment on eBay for very cheap… I have even seen practically new takeoffs listed on craigslist for A six pack of beer. The guy said it doesn’t even have to be cold.
so does anybody know of a company out there is making baffles to make stock harley mufflers a little less loud?
What was that black tool you guys were using to pull the baffle out? My bottom short shot baffle seems like it’s rusted/welded in place 😭
looks like some pipe expander
Do you have to retune it, i have a sportster 883 iron n?
Can standard baffles in Big Shots be wrapped?
Yes.
@@vstar7196 Thanks
Yes, but you'll want to use some form of stainless wool otherwise the fiberglass gets cut up by the louvers and eventually fails
@@vanceandhines Got it. Thanks for the info.
What’s the baffle hole punched machine called
No difference in sound
That quiet baffle looked very similar to the std baffle in my propipe drilled tube with cap on it
2 or 3 db? thats all? does it really worth the effort?
The video only showed one standard baffle removed, does the Short Shots only has one installed on the upper exhaust or is there another one on the bottom? Please advise, thank you.
There are two. Top and bottom.
can i Mount the quiet baffle if my pipes are wrapped?
Yes
Have any baffles that are 2-1/8 OD for evo longshots? I cant find them anywhere.
This is really a video about taking your baffles out . Smart
I don't see where 2-3 decibels gets you anything. I want a very noticeable difference; not something you could only register on an audio device.
Does this affect how hot the bike will get
Same question
what is the name of the machine sir?
Will this work on dirtbikes?
My farts are louder than 2-3 decibels.
Prove it.
I suffer from temporary minor hearing loss and ringing in my right ear everytime I ride my bike and it's because the pipes are too loud. Vance & Hine's tells me they don't have quiet baffles for my V&H pipes. Now I'm stuck with them and I will never recommend V&H to anyone. Screw a company that won't help their customer.
I went on revzilla and and bought quiet baffles from there.
What pipes do you have? I'm looking for super loud and can't find any? Thanks in advance.
@@roseconley6306 They are the vance and hines staggered big shots. I understand that they don't make them anymore. You can call kawasaki and ask what pipes were made for the VN900B classic
Thank you. I guess the shorts don't fit my bike. 🙄
Wear ear plugs. Even with no exhaust noise, the win noise at freeway speeds is enough to cause hearing damage.
hello instaled that on my mufflers and now i cant take out . i feel that the cushion move all for a corner and now i have a big ball inside the muffler and that is the reason.
any solution ?
It's an absolute nightmare to get back out again! I put the screw back in on the inside and used this to pull the baffle out. How did you get on?
When this happens, I typically take a slide hammer to the baffle and tap it out slowly
Kangoo Kamper finaly I cut in the union hose it and then I can push it out
I bought the super quiet baffles for my long shots and they did absolutely nothing,now am waiting on Big City quiet thunder monster baffles #QBL 1994 to see if they work 😖
That's surprising as those baffles typically drop the dB level by about 4-5 dB. What kind of baffle was previously installed, and why do you feel it didn't do anything?
Vance & Hines The long shots on my 2000 Heritage Softail had the stock baffles,bike has a103 stroker kit installed,hopefully Big City baffles will quiet down my ride!
I ordered these from my dealer and when they came in I asked them about the nice white packing cloth; was it to stay on or come off. The guy figured it was supposed to come off. I haven't thrown it away fortunately but I did take the tape that was holding it together off. Does the tape come off anyways or is it supposed to stay?
Cloth and tape stay on. It's just clear packing tape, so you can tape it back on and re-install with the cloth. It will make a big difference in noise when installed with the packing.
The fiberglass cloth is supposed to stay on. The plastic cellophane wrap comes off. I'm sure it would melt quickly if you left it on there. Plus there is no airflow through the plastic, so to me it makes sense the cellophane should come off while the fiberglass wrap stays.
But i think the power goes a little down.
But the Sound is pefect..
When you like to change it again, you have a hard worke ..
Not an allen screw but a torx screw.
Let's see the one where you get the quiet baffles back out when they are melted in with burnei plastic re-enforced with glass fibre and carbon.
Hint: don't try it with the pipes still on the bike.
2-3 decibels.......?
so I can change my cracked baffles for new ones without changing the whole exhaust thanks guy
i don't even have a baffle xD
The heat shields take much longer than in the video - the real job is taking the original baffle out after 5K+ miles - stuck in the pipe.
can i use this for a car instead of a bike ,I got a muffler delete
Mitsu93 yeah go ahead its a muffler
3dB is generally considered the smallest change in sound level that a person can detect. So if this is only 2-3 dB it seems pretty pointless!
if i remove baffle, doen’t it dyno jet ?
No. Only if you replace the header pipe.
what type of baffle installed in big radius 2-2 part#46069
The baffle that comes in the Big Radius 2-2 is a louvered-core baffle, though there is an optional Quiet Baffle that can be purchased for the exhaust.
I bought for Indian Bobber. 2/3 decibels less. Very useless.
I'm going to get a mini bike off road but i could also you it in road if i pit certain things on it but i need to make it quieter and well i really hope this is the answer for it and plz if can make a video about a mini bike making it quieter. ..i will really like it
Might as well leave the original pipes on and save yourself $900.
Except when you bought a used bike! Got em!
LOL true
Before and after = the same :)
Nice. There is subtle difference in sound, but the person who rides the bike for long can only tell. Short stacks are unbearable. I sold my bike just because I couldn't handle the loudness. I wish I had known this product earlier.
RK Ashburn the difference is minimal , I took mine out today and there ain't much difference , ear plugs are hell more effective to the rider
Lmfao, you sold your bike because it was too loud? Change the pipes instead and enjoy your machine.
Wow 😲
Has anyone re wrapped . .?? Ta
AFTER has no throttle at all...thats for a reason i guess,and the reason is to fool us!
Sounds the same!
Same shit!!!!!!!
good
No bloody difference. Just get used to it. You bought it, right?
they mess-up the sound while edit the video! :)))
Wack who wants a quiet bike
Depends on the rider and local ordinances, but we wanted to at least give people the option if they so choose.
Pas de différence !🤔🤔🤔
100$ for 2 decibels ??... ha ha nice video but waste of money its loud b4 its loud after , yes i tried them LOUD still !
3 dB decrease = Sound energy is halved
dB measurements are on an exponential scale, similar to the Richter scale, so a 3 dB decrease is quite a bit.
@@vanceandhines - No, it's logarithmic.