Ubisoft Disbands Prince Of Persia: The Lost Crown Team - Luke Reacts

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 630

  • @blackdoc6320
    @blackdoc6320 Місяць тому +327

    Launching a game exclusively on Ubisoft Connect, or Epic Games Store, or the EA app, is like breaking a horses legs and expecting it to win a race. We get it, you want to funnel 100% of the money from your games, the problem is rather than forking 30% to steam you are sacrificing 90% of your potential player base because no one wants to use your stupid apps.

    • @horizonika
      @horizonika Місяць тому +11

      Great analogy.

    • @BlueLightningSky
      @BlueLightningSky Місяць тому +2

      The launcher is not a problem. Games can skip a PC release and be fine. People didn't buy it because 2D is eww and they'd prefer shitty AC franchise

    • @imo098765
      @imo098765 Місяць тому +27

      @@BlueLightningSky and thats why you have it on Steam. PC gamers play all the genres

    • @konradzukowski213
      @konradzukowski213 Місяць тому +14

      ​@@BlueLightningSkyThe "problem" is PC players' patience.
      People are willing to wait before making a purchase to get a properly working and feature complete game cheaper or get the game on their platform of choice which tends to be Steam as most of the different platforms are way worse in comparison.
      Just look at how many publishers return to Steam, both those who had their own platforms and those who took Epic exclusivity.
      And unfortunately for the dev team, a large portion of people were expecting their game to be finally released on Steam and not for the dev team to be shut down because in eyes of Ubislop they didn't create a "must have" game that would bring players in droves to their launcher.

    • @rahulahl
      @rahulahl Місяць тому +9

      @@BlueLightningSky I don`t buy AC games. I wanted to buy the game at launch, but didn`t because it was on Ubisoft launcher only. I forgot about the game and came across it during a random Steam sale. Bough it with its expansion and loving it. Recommended it to my friends. I have plenty of friends who will not play a game with me that isn`t on Steam. They don`t want to download other launchers.

  • @grim3964
    @grim3964 Місяць тому +451

    Dumb company has to get rid of all of the good teams but not the outlaws team?

    • @PookaBot
      @PookaBot Місяць тому +48

      It's probably a great team, it's usually a few people making bad decisions that sink the boat

    • @LastAustralianGamer
      @LastAustralianGamer Місяць тому +29

      The outlaw team is working on the next Division that will sell and make money, no one cares about 2D games they can get all the critical reviews they want, it means nothing if no actual people care and buy it.

    • @Ashton_Cats
      @Ashton_Cats Місяць тому +5

      ​@LastAustralianGamer the 2d mario and zelda games sell tens of millions of units

    • @LimmeLimbo
      @LimmeLimbo Місяць тому +16

      @@Ashton_CatsThat’s Mario… and Zelda…

    • @Deliveredmean42
      @Deliveredmean42 Місяць тому +4

      @@LastAustralianGamer But if the next Division alos failed, maybe the real reason why the Prince of Persia game didn't sell is because Ubisoft have a horrible tiring reputation and not actually selling that game on platforms that actually people play like Steam? As in native Steam, and not redirecting them to their Ubisot Launcher.
      Not to mention there are other 2D platformer games that DID outsold the Prince of Persia game by a long shot.

  • @Albert_YTC
    @Albert_YTC Місяць тому +290

    “In order for our game to sell well we should make it available on the most popular pc game launcher!”
    Ubisoft: “No.”

    • @chuckles471
      @chuckles471 Місяць тому +8

      I don't think a Steam release would have done anything. Like the game came out on Switch and that is pretty much the perfect platform for a Metroidvania.

    • @lordofdouchebag2161
      @lordofdouchebag2161 Місяць тому +2

      30% percent cut on every game sold. Even if they sell 3 million copies they still wouldnt break even. Atmost new steam games released within 3 months 100k to 300k sold for AAA games that cost over 200 million cant even recoup half the value.

    • @imo098765
      @imo098765 Місяць тому

      @@lordofdouchebag2161 Steam doesnt take 30% of big sellers. Most of the sales will be at 18%

    • @rahulahl
      @rahulahl Місяць тому

      @@chuckles471 I wanted to buy the game on launch. I saw it was on Ubisoft launcher and didn't bother. I didn't even know when they released on Steam, until I saw it discounted on Steam. I quickly purchased it and the expansion, and have been playing it this week. Loving the game so far, and have recommended it to my friend who enjoyed Ori and its sequel.
      I know its only an anecdote with a sample size of 1, but I`m sure there are other people in the same boat. Ubisoft could have had me as a customer at launch price and singing its praises. Instead it allowed me to forget the game even existed until I ran into it during a sale on Steam. That`s just a very badly managed situation.

    • @TheNightman.
      @TheNightman. Місяць тому

      @@chuckles471 steamdeck is objectively superior to the switch in every single facet. Coming to Steam enables people to play it on the Deck, so this is a non-starter

  • @Shaun_cpt
    @Shaun_cpt Місяць тому +72

    This makes me so sad. I wasn’t hyped for the new Prince of Persia at all because I’m so over Ubi, but played it on a whim and fell so in love with it. I couldn’t believe Ubi was capable of publishing such a masterpiece

    • @rasmachris94
      @rasmachris94 Місяць тому +4

      I hadnt seen any marketing for it, but through word of mouth heard good things.
      Despite this I will not be buying it.
      Why should i bother to invest in Ubi when Ubi wont bother to invest in their developers?

    • @joelsytairo6338
      @joelsytairo6338 Місяць тому +3

      Yeah it’s the best thing out of Ubisoft in over a decade now 😫

    • @OG_McLovin
      @OG_McLovin 16 днів тому +1

      It's important to remember that Ubi has their rep for very good reasons. Ezio trilogy, Far Cry 3, Rayman Legends. They CAN make good and great games, but they're too obsessed with iteration instead of innovation.

  • @OutHereOnThePerimeter
    @OutHereOnThePerimeter Місяць тому +23

    Wow, the first Ubisoft game I’ve played in forever that I was actually super in love with. Now gone forever. Good job guys!

    • @sauliusvekteris526
      @sauliusvekteris526 Місяць тому +3

      Thats what i was thinking while was playing this game. I was so shocked to see how well made this game is and how enjoyable it is. But nope we cant have nice things with Ubisoft anymore

  • @Vandalizer1413
    @Vandalizer1413 Місяць тому +174

    Prince of Persia is practically a new IP in terms of the younger gaming audience. Last console or handheld game was released in 2010. Unreal that they would disband this team with the quality of the game.

    • @GinraiPrime666
      @GinraiPrime666 Місяць тому +16

      In the years since the Sands of Time trilogy, to say Ubisoft has not treated Prince of Persia well would be an understatement.

    • @vinny-zebu
      @vinny-zebu Місяць тому +9

      ​@@GinraiPrime666PoP was replaced completely by AC

    • @stefandinu6389
      @stefandinu6389 Місяць тому +1

      Yeah its crazy that they were working on a new one and they ended up making assassins creed. Wich is actually a cool story wich would never happen with todays ubisoft.

    • @GinraiPrime666
      @GinraiPrime666 Місяць тому

      @@vinny-zebu I really appreciate you mentioning this fact cause its crazy how many ideas AC borrowed from the Sands of Time trilogy and yet it feels like alot of people have forgotten that.

    • @theninjamaster67
      @theninjamaster67 Місяць тому +1

      @@GinraiPrime666 To be clear it's not just borrowed ideas AC was originally pitched by the Sands of Time director as "Prince of Persia but you play as the bodyguard" and was supposed to be a sequel but evolved past that so in a way AC is basically just the continuation of Prince of Persia far removed from its original intent.

  • @JaelaOrdo
    @JaelaOrdo Місяць тому +143

    Ubisoft seems determined to destroy any credibility they once had and run their company into the ground.

    • @Jakco808
      @Jakco808 Місяць тому +1

      Lol true

    • @theoutsiderjess1869
      @theoutsiderjess1869 Місяць тому

      Its already in the ground hence dropping this team

    • @RRRRRRRRR33
      @RRRRRRRRR33 Місяць тому +1

      Maybe that's the intention, not even joking, Tencent is mining the company from the inside, later they will buy it at the lowest possible price

    • @SpartanArmy117
      @SpartanArmy117 Місяць тому +2

      To be fair it's not just them. Corporations are just so short-sighted anymore. They'd rather get $60 out of you today rather than $40 for the next 10 releases. They just can't see how building a consumer base is so much more important than making the absolute most money at this exact moment. Of course, that's also an issue with share holders and all that stuff.

    • @Yandhi2
      @Yandhi2 Місяць тому

      I hope they go down. Devs don’t deserve to be tossed around and thrown away like this. It’s all about money.

  • @loukitmyname
    @loukitmyname Місяць тому +57

    PoP The Lost Crown is quite literally the best game Ubisoft has put out in years. Disbanding that team is stupid. But, I guess, stupidity is all we can expect from Ubisoft.

    • @sauliusvekteris526
      @sauliusvekteris526 Місяць тому +2

      I liked two last 2D rayman games too. They were super fun. Also Phoenix rising was well done

    • @theninjamaster67
      @theninjamaster67 Місяць тому

      @@sauliusvekteris526 Sorry to tell you but unless you're talking about the shitty Rayman mobile games the last major Rayman release came out 11 years ago also Phoenix Rising was 4 years ago already so maybe it's just me, but I think the statement "the best game Ubisoft has put out in years" still stands.
      Although to cut in with my own opinions a bit I'd say if you count the Mario + Rabbids games which I do the second one was decent and only came out 2 years ago also AC Mirage despite being a glorified DLC with tons of reused assets and animations it's IMO the best AC game we've gotten in quite some time from a mechanical standpoint and should've been overhauled to be a mainline game with an actually good budget.

  • @Mike-hj7gg
    @Mike-hj7gg Місяць тому +12

    Literally my game of the year and favorite metroidvania ever.. And they did this shit? Besides Disney i never wanted to see a company fail harder.

    • @joelsytairo6338
      @joelsytairo6338 Місяць тому +1

      It’s literally gonna be easier for me to forget this game ever existed than to accept the fact that it’s just gone now

  • @phelix_3816
    @phelix_3816 Місяць тому +7

    This game is an amazing experience. This team had so much compassion, the amount of detail and care and research to the Persian mythology is just incredible. They even gave us Persians for the first time a game with official Farsi/Persian language and voice acting. I’m heartbroken

  • @iekue
    @iekue Місяць тому +122

    The devs arnt losing their jobs, its the internal team at Ubi Montpellier that gets disbanded, its devs just go work on other stuff within the studio.

    • @elijahtiemens5532
      @elijahtiemens5532 Місяць тому +68

      So, the steak chefs are being moved to the McNugget fryers?

    • @lucyrus83
      @lucyrus83 Місяць тому +17

      Even though that might be the case, Ubisoft had something that actually worked and the group behind the project was proud and passionate about it, willing to go further in its development.
      Rewarding them by disbanding the group is a clear shot against them. I felt something similar when I lost a job with a group where we enjoyed a lot working together.
      We are not responsible for the company heads lacking management skills.
      But in the end, we bellow the food chain always pay the ultimate price. They just can't understand basic things and when they do, they distort it to the point of failure...
      I might be mixing things a bit in my argument, but truth be told, with these attitudes, they show anything but goodwill.

    • @blackmanwithcomputer
      @blackmanwithcomputer Місяць тому +4

      So onto the AC Infinite plantation? Still very much a downgrade, and still doesn't retain or attract talent.

    • @crit_cannon1090
      @crit_cannon1090 Місяць тому +2

      @iekue sometimes that happens. Some devs will move over. Usually the stronger members and others will either have their contracts terminated or whatever

    • @g.mendes0482
      @g.mendes0482 Місяць тому +2

      @@elijahtiemens5532what a great effing analogy dude 👍🏼

  • @cecarter10
    @cecarter10 Місяць тому +40

    They had another great game. Immortals Fenyx Rising sequel was canceled so they could a new assassin's creed game. Because we don't have enough studios making them.

    • @alemswazzu
      @alemswazzu Місяць тому +7

      Absolutely loved that game and I despise Ubisoft type games. It's was so unique.

    • @Seraphina_FF14
      @Seraphina_FF14 Місяць тому +1

      @@alemswazzu Wha...t? I didn't expect them to make a sequel, but to hear that it was planned and canceled is sad.
      It's the only Ubisoft game I've completed (including DLCs) since Assassin's Creed 1 (2007) and Prince of Persia (2008).
      It was unique and fun and not as boring as their other open world games as it was fun to traverse and there was always a new puzzle to solve. The course challenges were also a lot of fun. The story could have been better/funnier, but it was okay.

    • @sauliusvekteris526
      @sauliusvekteris526 Місяць тому

      Did you heard rumors next AC (Hexen) will be gayest AC game ever? Yes slay queen

    • @ShhhHhhhz
      @ShhhHhhhz Місяць тому

      yea.. nobody cares about that game

    • @alemswazzu
      @alemswazzu Місяць тому +1

      @@Seraphina_FF14 ya, the puzzles kept me into it because it wasn't brainless collectathons.

  • @TheEffectOfMass
    @TheEffectOfMass Місяць тому +36

    Disbanded is different language. Perhaps they were all reassigned to other projects. It sounds like Ubi just wants to make a million different AC games. What could go wrong?

    • @Deliveredmean42
      @Deliveredmean42 Місяць тому +1

      Good old oversaturation and Fatigue ala Guitar Hero!

    • @jazzyjay2802
      @jazzyjay2802 Місяць тому +1

      This kinda reminds me of ah similar situation that happened to the devs that worked on Tony hawk 1 + 2 and that studio won a game of the year award, and they two got disbanded and sent to work on other projects of Activision Blizzard I believe. 😔

  • @LoceyTheGarg
    @LoceyTheGarg Місяць тому +10

    I just recently bought this game. I did not realize how GREAT this game is! It is so fun and I hate that I will never see more from the team.

  • @MegaMbembe
    @MegaMbembe Місяць тому +43

    I wonder what is the production cost for Prince Of Persia: The Lost Crown. I bet it cost way less than the Skulls and Bones that cost around $200 million to develop and it was terrible for a $60.

    • @LastAustralianGamer
      @LastAustralianGamer Місяць тому

      There is no way it made its dev costs back even if it cost half of skull and bones. No one gave a shit about either of those games.

    • @proteuswest1084
      @proteuswest1084 Місяць тому +10

      @@LastAustralianGamer Everyone who played it gave a shit about the Prince of Persia game because it was really good. Not enough people played it because Ubisoft priced it too high. That's not a developer decision; that's a corporate and finance decision, and it's one that they've gotten burned on with their AAA or AAAA titles, too.

    • @chuckles471
      @chuckles471 Місяць тому +6

      "I bet it cost way less than the Skulls and Bones that cost around $200 million to develop and it was terrible for a $60."
      I don't know, about that. Skull and Bones literally had a country paying for part of it and was the only reason Ubisoft continued to make it. So it could have technically cost Ubisoft less than PoP:TLC.
      Also if they did go with the original idea of Skull and Bones, of a AC4 without the Assassin's Creed, it probably would have been a massive hit.

    • @scarlett8782
      @scarlett8782 Місяць тому +5

      correction: skull and bones was in development for 8 to 10 years and underwent a complete direction change and reboot after it was already years into development extending the development cycle beyond all reason. 300 to 500 people working on the game at ubisoft Singapore earning an average of $80-100k/year per employee. for 8 to 10 years. that's how these numbers break down. skull and bones cost upwards of 400 million dollars, with some outlets reporting up to 650 million. Ubisoft actually thought that game would sell 10-15 million copies and sell billions in microtransactions which is the reason they let that directionless 10 year madness continue at insane cost. totally delusional.

    • @nunyabuziness9622
      @nunyabuziness9622 Місяць тому +1

      I was just thinking 200mil ? Try double that easily

  • @MrVad3r
    @MrVad3r Місяць тому +5

    yeah they were so adamant about not releasing it on steam. what did they expect.. oh also that rap music trailer for prince of persia they put out worked out wonders for them.

  • @MajorZeero1
    @MajorZeero1 Місяць тому +5

    Man, this sucks so much. Easily was my GOTY, best metroidvania I've played in years. Recommended it to all my friends. Finished it yesterday to wake up to this!
    I'll miss you Sargon, you're my Prince of Persia.

  • @lobstereleven4610
    @lobstereleven4610 Місяць тому +4

    Never interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake. 😂😂

  • @tHeWasTeDYouTh
    @tHeWasTeDYouTh 28 днів тому +4

    the Prince didn't look Persian
    so yes, I am glad the devs got disbanded

    • @rhymm9099
      @rhymm9099 11 днів тому

      TF are you on about? The Prince did look Persian! Prince Ghassan even sounds hella Persian to me!!? Please go back into that incest hole of a country and make sure you drink a ton of fosfor for the sake of humanity!

  • @KK-qs2kq
    @KK-qs2kq Місяць тому +32

    If it dont make dollars, it dont make sense.
    -Ubisoft

    • @pauline3775
      @pauline3775 Місяць тому

      -All the companies that exist in the world. What the point if you make a game and do not gain money ? lol.

    • @M.N.9
      @M.N.9 8 днів тому

      @@pauline3775 i mean, it's been a while since ubisoft had a profit. I am waiting them to either sell their IP to Microsoft, or Microsoft offering ti buy them.

  • @rylee9086
    @rylee9086 Місяць тому +4

    Not wanting to publish a sequel to avoid “cannibalizing” the first game is SO ridiculous.
    When a new sequel comes out for a series I’m interested in, I almost always try the first few games in the series to better appreciate the sequel.

  • @Tom-ec7nh
    @Tom-ec7nh Місяць тому +3

    I just started Prince of Persia recently. Really enjoying it so far. Crazy to think that team would be shuttered.

  • @CaptScrotes
    @CaptScrotes Місяць тому +7

    If that's the actual reasoning they went with, then that is insanely stupid.

  • @dafideo
    @dafideo Місяць тому +3

    I’m going to finish this game out of respect for the Devs! Started it and got distracted but keen to return to it and finish it

    • @joelsytairo6338
      @joelsytairo6338 Місяць тому +1

      You won’t be disappointed it’s great.

  • @Muppemania
    @Muppemania Місяць тому +2

    Ubisoft dug themselves into a hole.
    While stuck there they strangly found a ladder.
    Rather then climbing up they set fire to the ladder.
    Oh Ubisoft.

  • @mrmaxin53
    @mrmaxin53 Місяць тому +1

    I imagine Ubisoft exec wakes up each morning and chooses to put rocks into their shoes before putting them on

  • @Dak-KO
    @Dak-KO Місяць тому +5

    Ubisoft, when one of their studios actually makes a good game

  • @RayzaNC
    @RayzaNC Місяць тому +2

    It's the best Ubisoft game for a few years, i'm loving it. Was really hoping the devs would get to make another 2D Rayman next.

  • @artoriasoftheabyss500
    @artoriasoftheabyss500 Місяць тому +4

    Lost crown is the best game ubisoft has made since odyssey I still cannot fathom how they fucked up it's launch

  • @deathsdoor07
    @deathsdoor07 Місяць тому +2

    The problem for me is why call it Prince of Persia if I can't play as the Prince?

  • @RickRanger711
    @RickRanger711 Місяць тому +2

    Motorfest is pretty well received and gets consistent free updates/DLC.

  • @travellingslim
    @travellingslim Місяць тому +2

    This is the equivalent of hanging off the edge of a cliff and a helping hand reaches out to pull you up, but you refuse and decide to keep hanging there because it's not the hand of a 300lb bodybuilder

  • @carterbrodeur7957
    @carterbrodeur7957 Місяць тому +1

    That fact that this is one of the nominated games of the year and not space marines tears my soul apart

    • @joelsytairo6338
      @joelsytairo6338 Місяць тому +1

      What? Well first of all where are you seeing these noms and second of HELL YES it deserves it

  • @marconeves1979
    @marconeves1979 Місяць тому +10

    “Disbanded” as in laid off, or just re-assigned to a different team?

    • @Patte-chan
      @Patte-chan Місяць тому +7

      re-assigned to a different team

    • @joelsytairo6338
      @joelsytairo6338 Місяць тому

      They’re probably all working on a different project. I’m pretty Ubisoft Montpelier is not that big

  • @Flynnor
    @Flynnor Місяць тому +1

    The good-will argument is 100% on point. It happens when bean-counters instead of developers are steering the direction of the company.

  • @andresbogado7133
    @andresbogado7133 Місяць тому +7

    it's that Miles Morales? lmao.

  • @carljthatsme94
    @carljthatsme94 Місяць тому +2

    The issue is that sales expectations are way, way too high.

  • @chrisjherman
    @chrisjherman Місяць тому +1

    As you and everyone has said, they cut the legs from underneath this title. It's a shame its access was limited. Looks like we're just gonna keep getting more Ubisoft slop from now on.

  • @VariantNode
    @VariantNode Місяць тому +2

    reminds meme of when Activision dissolved Radical Entertainment after P2's release - and I'm convinced they made that management decision before the game was even out on PC (I had to wait 3 months after console release, and then mere weeks after it released on steam, Activision shut them down. I lost faith in video games for years after that, but to settle the score I reverse engineered their work with some friends - you can find a link to the Prototype modding server pinned in the Prototype subreddit - i still have more research to contribute and our tools are still under active development)

  • @timharris2310
    @timharris2310 Місяць тому +1

    They should’ve had that same team make a 2D splinter cell game and everyone would’ve been hyped for it because they knew the other one was great.

  • @gaminggarbage22
    @gaminggarbage22 Місяць тому +2

    Tango wasn't closed it was sold to Krafton. Still a horrible decision, I agree. 😅 Should have kept them.

  • @alderoth01
    @alderoth01 Місяць тому +14

    Executives get jealous. The executives think THEIR ideas should be the money makers, so when it's an underdog, they get rid of that underdog or disband that group, so they can't do it again.

    • @joelsytairo6338
      @joelsytairo6338 Місяць тому

      Well no. It didn’t make a lot of money unfortunately. I mean for a search action title it did ok but in Ubisoft eyes it was a failure

  • @StillWeRide
    @StillWeRide Місяць тому +20

    1st banger of 2024. The Lost Crown was incredible.

  • @onslajoue_qc
    @onslajoue_qc Місяць тому +1

    This game deserved to be launched Day One on Steamdeck and Steam.

  • @G.R.Bridger
    @G.R.Bridger Місяць тому +1

    So frustrating - a great game, seemingly being forced into unrealistic sales expectations (it’s not a live service title)! The only thing cannibalising The Lost Crown is Ubisoft

  • @deltavagen9796
    @deltavagen9796 Місяць тому +1

    The only project that did Not end in a mess... And they kick out the people who did it 🤦‍♂️

  • @PhilW08
    @PhilW08 Місяць тому +1

    Future generations will hear stories of the Ubisoft downfall

  • @uncleclaps44
    @uncleclaps44 Місяць тому +1

    Remember the Collectors editions for a few days early access, season passes and payment methods to skip battlepass tiers for single player games and not owning your games?
    That's rhetorical, fk ubi

  • @TheBadasssnoopy
    @TheBadasssnoopy Місяць тому +4

    I don't like seeing teams getting disbanded, but Ubisoft is not in a position where they can just take loses for the sake of "good will". I'm not saying this is a smart move on their part, but it's not as unreasonable as Luke is making it seem. Especially considering that Luke keeps saying that he thinks Ubisoft needs to lay people off because they have too many employees.

    • @joelsytairo6338
      @joelsytairo6338 Місяць тому +1

      I don’t think they were actually “disbanded” Ubisoft Montpelier I’d not that big (relatively speaking) and they still exist

  • @stubbornweeb2190
    @stubbornweeb2190 Місяць тому +1

    I was super interested in this game and probably would’ve bought it day one if it was from Nintendo or PlayStation because I know they don’t discount their titles very often.
    If I buy a Ubisoft game, they go on sale way too quick and almost feel scammed for buying it on launch.

  • @M1tZk1
    @M1tZk1 Місяць тому +1

    Man... the game was so good. It's my current Game of the Year.

  • @proteuswest1084
    @proteuswest1084 Місяць тому +2

    I will say that I have tried my best to retain a realistic look about Ubisoft, that I have not been as down on them as others have been, and I have been encouraged with them switching Shadows to be more pro consumer, but finding this out is legitimately one of the most upsetting decisions Ubisoft has made in recent history. This game was $50 on console. I bought it later at $30, and it was well worth it. If it had been $40, I probably get it off the reviews alone on release.
    It's a tough market when I can play both Ori games and Hollow Knight on Game Pass, or I can pick up Hades for $30. The game failed purely due to their pricing, so fire the finance people who priced it that way, not the developers who made an amazing game.

  • @OG_McLovin
    @OG_McLovin 16 днів тому +1

    I have no problem with playing a protag from a different race or culture from mine, but the zoomer haircut they gave him was enough for me to sleep on this one. I don't want to play a Prince that looks like he's going to order Starbucks as he lectures me about identity politics. Character design is very, very important. This concept should be codified in the game dev community as The Concord Protocol.

  • @dominicansoulsbourne5456
    @dominicansoulsbourne5456 Місяць тому +9

    Fans expected Aladdin, but they got light skinned killmonger. That made a huge difference in sales, whether they want to believe it or not.

  • @ShatteredSunSoul
    @ShatteredSunSoul Місяць тому +1

    Would be cool if the team made their own studio and made a new metroidvania because they were really talented.

    • @joelsytairo6338
      @joelsytairo6338 Місяць тому

      Well at least mercury steam is still around… maybe

  • @noamias4897
    @noamias4897 Місяць тому +2

    This, along with the harassment accusations and horrible management of that (mixing people around into different departments is not a sufficient punishment or solution), is the final straw for me.
    If this is how they treat their workers then I actively hope for their downfall. Before I hoped Ubisoft would succeed for their employees’ sake despite their horrible management, but given how poorly they treat their talent they genuinely don’t deserve any success.

  • @J1Warrior84
    @J1Warrior84 Місяць тому

    Luke did you stop putting your live streams up to watch for later? I cant always catch ya live, but always enjoyed catching up listening while i was at work

  • @djtoxicdhg
    @djtoxicdhg Місяць тому +2

    Its soo sad this studio did a absolutely amazing job with this game thay made a absolute banger

  • @jjsavior
    @jjsavior Місяць тому +1

    This game, and Dead Space last year. Man the industry is rough on great games.

  • @Cloud92390
    @Cloud92390 Місяць тому +1

    Ubisoft, learn? Those words can’t be used together.

  • @Marbeary
    @Marbeary Місяць тому +19

    It is hilarious they retain people that checks boxes but dissolve devs that actually make games.

  • @vercoda9997
    @vercoda9997 Місяць тому +2

    Over the years, I've watched Ubisoft evolve. Now, it just seems to make generally mediocre games which have been artistically derailed by poor or questionable management choices, while overall the company is being badly managed. Money is vital - but creative worth has value too, and Ubisoft has just decided, apparently, that gamer loyalty, a reputation for quality, or any creative flair and innovation - None of that matters. The end result is it's scrambling around, chasing trends, cutting resources, and shovelling out largely dull, average content. There doesn't seem to be anyone left in management there who has any interest in gaming, fun or creativity, and thus the games - and sales - are increasingly suffering. Pity.

  • @Jbonesaa
    @Jbonesaa Місяць тому +1

    Damn shame, was one of the best metroidvanias I’ve ever played. Best combat of that category imo.

  • @KaitoverMoon
    @KaitoverMoon Місяць тому +1

    But where are Ubisoft going to get all their short term quarterly profits to squander on useless things like paying bonuses to executives???

  • @soulechelon2643
    @soulechelon2643 Місяць тому +1

    Sad thing is, Lost Crown was the absolute closest an Ubiderp game got to me purchasing it after my personal boycott of the company. The only reason why I didn't is because its sale price felt a bit too high, so I was going to wait for a discount. Now that the team has been disbanded I fell even less inclined to give Ubiderp any of my money, since that team won't be getting any of it if I did.
    Sidenote: This sort of thing is the *best* way a company can advocate for pirating their games. Just saying.

  • @TheGamingRaccoons
    @TheGamingRaccoons Місяць тому +1

    honestly at this point you should just start your own studio i would have so much faith in that

  • @Hytts2011
    @Hytts2011 Місяць тому +1

    Steam: Notice me...
    Ubisoft: No!

  • @andreasplosky8516
    @andreasplosky8516 Місяць тому +1

    UBI could have made a sequel to Prince of Persia, and then sell a special discount bundle that included the first game. This would have prevented serious canalization of the first game.
    This would have been better than not creating a sequel at all. And in general, a sequel renews the attention for the first game, which is good for sales.

    • @joelsytairo6338
      @joelsytairo6338 Місяць тому

      Unfortunately Ubi isn’t gonna gamble like that. Ubi prefers to gamble with 2billion dollar live service abominations that are guaranteed to fail at launch.

  • @coolhandluke9783
    @coolhandluke9783 Місяць тому +2

    Short sighted money hungry fools - most large companies today about to eat it.

  • @billmann9947
    @billmann9947 Місяць тому +2

    I think you're starting from the false assumption Ubi cares about the consumer's interest or good will. They don't. When have they ever?

  • @Bandit-man7841
    @Bandit-man7841 Місяць тому +2

    I’m loving the game, I played the original Amiga game alot as a kid, was kind of the mature version of the Disney Aladdin game!
    I never played the 2000s games but I know their popularity and that I remember thinking of the original Persia when I saw the first AC game trailer back in 2007 or whatever!!
    🤔
    POP did parkour so that AC could Drop Kill a target really!!!
    You would think considering its legacy and considering it’s a GOTY contender, UBI would want to ride the train and invest in it.
    I don’t get it!!

    • @joelsytairo6338
      @joelsytairo6338 Місяць тому +1

      Tbh I’m surprised they even let it get dlc

    • @Bandit-man7841
      @Bandit-man7841 20 днів тому

      @ does seem odd after they’ve gone and done that now!

  • @duckseatbread104
    @duckseatbread104 Місяць тому +1

    They also made those outstanding rayman games

  • @Sicarius1604
    @Sicarius1604 Місяць тому +1

    Fun fact : I'm not sure about the exact English term, but I recently read an interview with multiple representatives of Ubisoft's employees' union. There's currently a massive strike in France against them because the higher-ups are doing everything to screw their employees. At one point, one of the representatives mentioned that developers often see red flags in big projects, but many of those who speak up are punished by being sent to work on Prince of Persia. Since the game turned out great, it shows Ubisoft cares more about having yes-men on main projects than its best devs. ( Less fun fact : they also received death threats for Prince of Persia ).

    • @Sicarius1604
      @Sicarius1604 Місяць тому

      If someone wants to have more details, the article is called " Nouvelle grève à Ubisoft : le STJV nous explique ses revendications " on gamekult

    • @joelsytairo6338
      @joelsytairo6338 Місяць тому

      :(

  • @xvoidgamer
    @xvoidgamer Місяць тому

    The best good will example is Grim Dawn's, they have the "Loyalist Pack" DLC's , just a few skins , if any ubisoft game had these i would call them cash grabs but considering how much good will that company build , i bought them in an instant not for the skins, but just to support the devs. (ofc they are smaller devs but if they had the same attitude as ubisoft it would be the same no matter the size of the company)

  • @ployth9000
    @ployth9000 Місяць тому +5

    they are still working on prince of persina sands of time remake for 2026 I think

    • @Patte-chan
      @Patte-chan Місяць тому +2

      No, that is being developed by Ubisoft Montréal. We're talking about Ubisoft Montpellier here.

    • @joelsytairo6338
      @joelsytairo6338 Місяць тому

      This game getting the treatment it did makes me low key not even want to support and play that game

  • @ToshDoh
    @ToshDoh Місяць тому +2

    If it was a “good” game then why did it sale so poorly? I’ll give credit for it being a metroidvania and 2d game but What do the reviews say?

  • @Nan1
    @Nan1 Місяць тому +3

    Bro they disbanded a team that made the most decent game out of all the pile sh!t they released recently, at this point they just want to shut down the whole company 💀.

    • @joelsytairo6338
      @joelsytairo6338 Місяць тому

      I just want to stay inside and cry for the next week

  • @fakepasta3935
    @fakepasta3935 Місяць тому +4

    Let's disband the only studio which brought you back a little bit of prestige and reputation in last years. Great idea!!!

    • @ISGAMINGFORNERDS
      @ISGAMINGFORNERDS Місяць тому

      Nobody bought the game think twice before you comment

    • @mosesdavid5536
      @mosesdavid5536 Місяць тому

      @@ISGAMINGFORNERDS Whats funny is he didn't even buy the game himself and talking about prestige and reputation. Doesn't believe his own words

    • @ISGAMINGFORNERDS
      @ISGAMINGFORNERDS Місяць тому

      @@mosesdavid5536 oh I know a lot of these people didn’t in fact this happens a lot in gaming and people wonder why they don’t get sequels or etc

    • @weirdreportt
      @weirdreportt Місяць тому

      @@ISGAMINGFORNERDS the problem is not the game itself. They have high expectations for a game they barely advertised. Plus, there are hundreds of Metroidvanias in the market currently, add the fact that it is considered a niche genre, fuck they gonna expect millions of people to buy a metroidvania game. Even Hollow Knight - the most recent popular in the genre - only sold around 6 million as of 2024. They had to compete with that, which they failed. Few people knew of the release and the game.

    • @D4C_LoveTrain1
      @D4C_LoveTrain1 Місяць тому

      @@weirdreportt would be interesting how many devs actually made the game. It was a skeleton crew based on the information we have so the needed break-even line would be lower.
      Like maybe they needed 500k or 1 million units sold instead of 5 million.

  • @SuperJmc7
    @SuperJmc7 Місяць тому +1

    I'm telling you man, for the longest time since 2016, the sharks moved in the gaming industry. They saw all the money they "could" make and moved in to take over

  • @stabor90
    @stabor90 Місяць тому +2

    If it doesn't sale well then it is what it is. Need money to make games. Plus they have way too many employees. Hope they find better paying positions and work on other great games.

  • @OmahaGTP
    @OmahaGTP Місяць тому +1

    Oh crap. I don’t know this hit Steam a few months back. I would’ve bought day one. Good job, Ubisoft management.

  • @paulappleton9666
    @paulappleton9666 Місяць тому +1

    Yep, that sounds about on brand for Ubi.

  • @shawnsmith2006
    @shawnsmith2006 Місяць тому +1

    I didn't want play it because it didn't have the Prince of Persia as the main character. If they had made a really good real Prince of Persia, and this game came out as like a side game spinoff for way cheaper, then I might have tried it. It seemed like it was a bait and switch, using the POP ip. I just don't like supporting stuff like that. Maybe if it was an original franchise and cheaper. The character didn't look good and it looked like something made for a modern audience which I avoid. Maybe they should have picked a different character design, especially the haircut. They could have done a lot of things to make it more appealing, especially to weary gamers.

  • @greed-1914
    @greed-1914 Місяць тому

    It's the mentality that simple profit is not enough. It must be massive prifit compared to the spend. "Below expectations" doesn't aleays mean flop. It can mean it merely did ok.

  • @hovsep56
    @hovsep56 Місяць тому +1

    using dragons dogma 2 as a example of goodwil is a terrible example, dd2 was trashed extremely hard even tho the items in it were easily obtained ingame and not usable till pretty far into the game.

  • @CardCrusher29
    @CardCrusher29 Місяць тому

    The Disneyland tickets for Luke Stephens must have been lost in the mail

  • @AsSa-mo8fx
    @AsSa-mo8fx Місяць тому +2

    Prince of persia mobile look beetter than this

  • @TUPGD
    @TUPGD Місяць тому

    I never understood the gaming industry as far as a career goes. It makes sense to go into every single project as if its the one an only thing you're gonna do. The reward with another title afterwards is based on how well your original game sales. Its the same way in the Music industry. If an artist doesn't sell enough they get cut. You (The artist) isn't out of anything because you already got paid for the work you did. The Video Game Industry is not like people think it is, which is a 9-5 career. Its a Contract-Pay-Per-Project-Cut-Throat business. You true reward is creating something people can play no matter if they like it or not, its there for them. This one thing makes you valuable to the world and the industry. Take what you got and build on it. Dont feel down that these people lose their jobs because if they are any good they will jump right back on their feet. If not, then they have the 100k+ they got for making the game in the first place to fall back on.

    • @joelsytairo6338
      @joelsytairo6338 Місяць тому

      I’m pretty sure no one lost their job. Montpelier didn’t get shut down

  • @neilallen529
    @neilallen529 17 днів тому

    Ubisoft if by some miracle you see this, please reverse this decision. The Lost Crown is my favorite Metroidvania, and I need more Sargon in my life! Please continue this story!!!

  • @derkitheofficial3306
    @derkitheofficial3306 Місяць тому +2

    Apparently this was leaked to be a game of the year nominee, and now they do this?

    • @joelsytairo6338
      @joelsytairo6338 Місяць тому +2

      Omg I will literally cry if it gets a nomination. Maybe that will convince poobisoft to widen up. I mean it was a critical darling because critics tend to be… smart

  • @tarekben5524
    @tarekben5524 Місяць тому

    Hey Luke unfortunately this kind of behavior is happening everywhere. Automotive, software, and so on, you name it. It's depressing.

  • @DZONYWWA
    @DZONYWWA Місяць тому +1

    Damn, it seriously was my GOTY next to Balatro

    • @joelsytairo6338
      @joelsytairo6338 Місяць тому +1

      Same. There’s really nothing else like it. It evolved the search action genre in so many cool interesting ways

  • @joshuagallop7298
    @joshuagallop7298 14 днів тому

    Is shutting down the game Studio the same as firing these people or are they just being moved around to different teams and projects?

  • @gemodemplay415
    @gemodemplay415 Місяць тому +1

    Oh, you modest 😂

  • @KaliGam
    @KaliGam Місяць тому

    Dude, Ubiflop needs to get a grip!!! Lost Crown was one of the best games i played this year!!!

  • @seasidesandies3334
    @seasidesandies3334 Місяць тому

    Dont know about other people, but I specifically didn't but it because during the DEMO! It asked me to log into an Ubisoft account.
    Stop making entry into gameplay more difficult than it needs to be. I just want to press start and play.

  • @CH-vr2dl
    @CH-vr2dl Місяць тому

    they are canning the good studios because those studios are showing the upper management that the players like good games and not the decisions that lead those companies where it is now

  • @tomhavenith2330
    @tomhavenith2330 Місяць тому

    6:30 that's how you manage a company making crappy electronics.
    Crappy electronics is a nice summary for the Ubisoft-lineup of the last few years, tho.

  • @frankcastle7831
    @frankcastle7831 Місяць тому

    Before this game the last great game from ubisoft was fynix rising and that game got refused a sequel too. But were getting 8 to 10 assassins creeds

  • @EspyMelly
    @EspyMelly Місяць тому +1

    The game was massively mismanaged. Overpriced for what it looked like (people are very shallow on average and will think a game that looks like this should be priced at 30$ tops), people had tons of issues just getting the thing to work, it forced you to use Ubisoft's shitty app, only released on Steam later after any hype was dead and it STILL needed an Ubisoft Connect account according to the negative reviews around the Steam launch. The game had issues with losing people tons of progress due to crashes and save bugs early on as well.
    An amazing game kneecapped by its publisher and some bad early issues.