Birchwood Casey Perma Blue. Tell us Magdad, "How did it do?" "Don't double dip," As Seinfeld would say. Might mess up the bottle Or make it look gray. Use non detergent To give it a sheen. 30W detergent Will make it too clean. What was the outcome? I'll be right back With the final edit Of me talking smack. Ok I'm back. What did we find. Perma Blue works as well As the other kind. And then there is Chuck That will have three fits If 357 Doesn't use some Flitz. From the hot banks of the drought stricken Underwood Branch, thanks for the fun. :-)
I finally got the nerve to try blueing. Watching you before I thought I had a bottle of your first kind but it was perma blue. Put it on a monkey wrench that had not turned out as well as I wanted. It was in bad shape from the start. I couldn't get it as dark as yours. It seamed to roll off the steal. It looked a little patchy. After two coats I buffed it with steal wool. Made it look a lot better. But some parts didn't get as dark as others. I cleaned it to start but maybe not good or I used a small paint brush. But it came out pretty good. Stay safe and healthy my friend. Thanks
Glen Grossnickle The creme or paste formulas of the various types of bluing don't run much or dry up as quickly as the liquids, and give you a more even result, if you follow the directions carefully as well as 357magdad's bluing tips.
Seems like my Dad has a bottle of some type of Cold Blueing, I have hammer that might be an interesting candidate to try it on......Next time I visit him I'll have to see if he still has it.
I used this same product on some bolts & nuts from a vise. Everything looked really good but 2 days later, there a light coat of rust over these items. Any suggestions?
Good video, Next time that you go to soak your project with oil, try using mineral oil. I find it works very well and stays on the tool longer. I put it in a small dish and just drop the item in. I do a lot of slip joint pocket knives and this method works well. Later
357magdad Oxpho-Blue Creme is about $10 and the small bottle will last for years. If you find enough other stuff you like on Brownell's web site, I believe you can get free shipping.
I tried doing a minibike brake rotor, and the color didn’t change. I even stuck a magnet to it to make sure it wasn’t stainless steel. Do you have any ideas?
I did one of my steak knives today and had been doing some acid etching and this blue was easier much cleaner and a very dark even finished after 2 coats my best the first time after doing 6 of the acid etching blades. I'm old man and 4 years BlackSmith and started knives only hobby and friends. I'm not making full judgment as I don't know durably yet let's see how they do but belive I'm going try the bluing that gets heated as should be tuffer Thanks good first impression.
Thanks for watching! Bridgeport Hardware Mfg dates back to 1895. The company in the same town that made milling machines started in 1938. My theory on the 2/32 size is that it was easier/cheaper to have all sizes use the same "32" stamp.
its either something wrong with my bottle or its total junk. I cant get my old gun parts black whatever I do or how clean they are. becomes blotchy and blue. its so random. Then it does nothing if I try a second coat.
I've had good success with all of Birchwood Casey's cold bluing products. Make sure the part you are working on is steel. The bluing doesn't work well on aluminum, zinc alloys or stainless steel. I have had parts come out blotchy on the first coat. I am usually able to even out the color with steel wool before re-coating. I've also had to coat some items 3 and 4 times to get the color I wanted.
Anyone know what actual color does perma blue, super blue and aluminum black after several application? I'm looking for something that could produce a really dark green or like a seaweed color..
Thanks for watching! The cold blue is more of a decorative finish. I did do a comparison of three easy bluing methods with corrosion testing. ua-cam.com/video/QkcKGgHGRo8/v-deo.html
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@@357magdad followed the instructions on the bottle carefully but the slide on my umarex glock 17 gen 4 bb gun still looks the same as it did. Probably because its crappy pot metal. Idk. Thanks anyway.
@@ot9180 I've never tried bluing anything bigger than a hand tool. I think I would try to find the largest applicator I could. Maybe one of those foam brushes?
Thanks for watching! I don't think the bluing solution adds any gloss to the part. I think if the metal has a matte finish before bluing, it will retain it.
I see that on a lot of the nail sets. It seems like 2/32 and 3/32 were the most popular sizes. Maybe they used just 2's and 3's to save money on tooling?
I bet you won't find a punch factory nowadays in Bridgeport. Not that I know a damn thing about Brideport just that I think it's important for something.
@357magdad no worries. Thanks for making the video. I Googled Bridgeport. There was a gigantic Remington firearms factory there in the early 1900's. That punch IS American history. I'm a mechanic by trade, I appreciate tools.
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This is a very thorough and informative video for those of us who want to try bluing without ruining a project. Very good tips. Thanks
Thanks Pat! I'm glad you found my video helpful!
Nice! The change is undeniable. Can't wait for my Birchwood Casey Bluing kit to come in. Winchester you're up next!
Thanks for watching! I hope your Winchester turns out great!
Birchwood Casey
Perma Blue.
Tell us Magdad,
"How did it do?"
"Don't double dip,"
As Seinfeld would say.
Might mess up the bottle
Or make it look gray.
Use non detergent
To give it a sheen.
30W detergent
Will make it too clean.
What was the outcome?
I'll be right back
With the final edit
Of me talking smack.
Ok I'm back.
What did we find.
Perma Blue works as well
As the other kind.
And then there is Chuck
That will have three fits
If 357
Doesn't use some Flitz.
From the hot banks of the drought stricken Underwood Branch, thanks for the fun. :-)
Thanks for another great poem Mark!
Thanks for the video. Have some of the Perma Blue. Restoring my late parent's Colt 25. Very informative. Thanks.
Thanks for watching! I hope you have success with your project!
I'm about to do up a cold steel hatchet with perma blue after I stripp the black paint off.
Thank you for taking the time to share this with us.
Thanks for watching! Good luck with your project!
What a transformation of a small punch I really must try blueing at some point thanks for sharing :-)
I grab nail sets / punches every time I see them at the sales. They are fun to clean up!
💜💜💜
Nice work, 357. Looks new off the shelf. I've never done any bluing. Is the buffing necessary?
I've found that buffing with steel wool between coats does result in a darker finish.
I finally got the nerve to try blueing. Watching you before I thought I had a bottle of your first kind but it was perma blue. Put it on a monkey wrench that had not turned out as well as I wanted. It was in bad shape from the start. I couldn't get it as dark as yours. It seamed to roll off the steal. It looked a little patchy. After two coats I buffed it with steal wool. Made it look a lot better. But some parts didn't get as dark as others. I cleaned it to start but maybe not good or I used a small paint brush. But it came out pretty good. Stay safe and healthy my friend. Thanks
I have found that getting the part super clean is key. Buffing with steel wool between coats seems to help make each coat darker.
Glen Grossnickle The creme or paste formulas of the various types of bluing don't run much or dry up as quickly as the liquids, and give you a more even result, if you follow the directions carefully as well as 357magdad's bluing tips.
I like the results. You make it look easy. I have a bicycle wrench I want to do and I will use your step by step instructions. Thank you
Thanks Jack! Give it a try!
😃👍
Yay scoutcrafters still with us. I was worried the storm had got you
What? You dislike bluing. I thought you would not like this video.
Nice face shield for Chuck. Does he wear that to the grocery store too?
Chuck doesn't get out much. He's a house bird.
Thanks for the review. I definitely got some tips I can use ion my next bluing project.
Thanks John! The thorough cleaning and buffing with 0000 steel wool between coats really seem to make a difference in the finished product.
Seems like my Dad has a bottle of some type of Cold Blueing, I have hammer that might be an interesting candidate to try it on......Next time I visit him I'll have to see if he still has it.
Give it a try!
That one was in good shape before you started now it looks like a new one ..I have a punch like those ..I keep losing it and then I find it again
Thanks! I grab these every time I see them at the sales. The different knurling patterns are cool!
I used this same product on some bolts & nuts from a vise. Everything looked really good but 2 days later, there a light coat of rust over these items. Any suggestions?
Thanks for watching! Make sure you thoroughly rinse in water after your final coat, then dry and soak in oil at least 12 hours to fully cure.
Thanks for the review. This was very helpful and something I will buy.
Let me know how you like it!
Good video, Next time that you go to soak your project with oil, try using mineral oil. I find it works very well and stays on the tool longer. I put it in a small dish and just drop the item in. I do a lot of slip joint pocket knives and this method works well. Later
Thanks for watching! I think non-detergent oil is basically mineral oil.
I have used the bluing before on items I always like the deep colour it gives.
It is a handy finish option!
I think Chuck needs to go to Flitzers Anonymous!
Ha FA
Chuck may have a problem......
If you like the Super Blue and Perma Blue then you really should try Oxpho-Blue at Brownells.
I haven't tried the Oxpho because it is more expensive than the Birchwood Casey stuff. Maybe if Chuck gets a paper route....
357magdad Oxpho-Blue Creme is about $10 and the small bottle will last for years. If you find enough other stuff you like on Brownell's web site, I believe you can get free shipping.
Nice results. They all look better than new!
Thanks UD! Punches and nail sets are fun to clean up!
I tried doing a minibike brake rotor, and the color didn’t change. I even stuck a magnet to it to make sure it wasn’t stainless steel. Do you have any ideas?
Some stainless steel will attract a magnet.
@@357magdad ok thanks man!
Thanks trying this today.
Video is informative interesting and very clear instructions
Thanks great help
Thanks John! I'm glad you found the video helpful. Let me know how your project turns out!
I did one of my steak knives today and had been doing some acid etching and this blue was easier much cleaner and a very dark even finished after 2 coats my best the first time after doing 6 of the acid etching blades.
I'm old man and 4 years BlackSmith and started knives only hobby and friends.
I'm not making full judgment as I don't know durably yet let's see how they do but belive I'm going try the bluing that gets heated as should be tuffer
Thanks good first impression.
Great tips on bluing. Good video. (I know I'm late).😂😂
Thanks Mike!
Why are the sets sized in 32ts? Is this the same as the Bridgeport Milling Machine co.?
Thanks for watching! Bridgeport Hardware Mfg dates back to 1895. The company in the same town that made milling machines started in 1938.
My theory on the 2/32 size is that it was easier/cheaper to have all sizes use the same "32" stamp.
its either something wrong with my bottle or its total junk. I cant get my old gun parts black whatever I do or how clean they are. becomes blotchy and blue. its so random. Then it does nothing if I try a second coat.
I've had good success with all of Birchwood Casey's cold bluing products. Make sure the part you are working on is steel. The bluing doesn't work well on aluminum, zinc alloys or stainless steel. I have had parts come out blotchy on the first coat. I am usually able to even out the color with steel wool before re-coating. I've also had to coat some items 3 and 4 times to get the color I wanted.
what is the difference between Birchwood Presto Mag Blue and Perma Blue?
Thanks for watching Jay! I have not tried the Mag Blue.
Anyone know what actual color does perma blue, super blue and aluminum black after several application? I'm looking for something that could produce a really dark green or like a seaweed color..
Thanks for watching. I do not know of a bluing product that will leave the color you're looking for.
What kind of rust protection does this bluing provide
Thanks for watching! The cold blue is more of a decorative finish. I did do a comparison of three easy bluing methods with corrosion testing. ua-cam.com/video/QkcKGgHGRo8/v-deo.html
Well done. Now I need to give my new bottle with Spanish instructions a try. Maybe on a nailset...
Go for it!
Hi Fellow youtuber..just love what your doing here.. Your vlogs are very interesting and quite educational. I love that you take the time to explain what you are doing. Showing my fellow youtubers some love all the way from South Africa 🇿🇦 keep them comming.
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
Better than new. Very nice
Thank You. Nice detailed instructions. Trying this stuff on a couple bb guns.
Thanks Donald! Let me know how your project turns out!
@@357magdad followed the instructions on the bottle carefully but the slide on my umarex glock 17 gen 4 bb gun still looks the same as it did. Probably because its crappy pot metal. Idk. Thanks anyway.
@@donaldrush1364 The cold bluing formulas only work on carbon steel. Birchwood Casey makes an aluminum black that might work.
@@357magdad k worth a try. Thank You.
Can you only do this on small objects? I have something I would like to try it on. It is about 10”x 4”...
I think you could blue larger objects. It might get expensive and maintaining an even color might be tricky.
357magdad what is ur best advice to get even color on larger objects?
@@ot9180 I've never tried bluing anything bigger than a hand tool. I think I would try to find the largest applicator I could. Maybe one of those foam brushes?
The two dislikes are, the person who sold you it at the sale and the man you beat to buying it!
lol
I do need to pull the trigger on some Perma blue. Looks great!!!
The bluing is a nice option to have!
That perma blue is cool stuff. It looks really nice.👍
Chuck would want high polish and Flitz on everything, but I like to mix it up!
Excellent. Results are beautiful.
Thanks!
The question on everyones' mind: Does chuck brush his teeth (beak) using your tube of Flitz? It seems to be in his system.
Flitz should add "beak polish" to their list of uses!
Awesome!
Thanks Christopher!
Disculpe señor cuál es la diferencia entre el super blue y el perma blue
Thanks for watching! Super Blue is for bluing highly polished steel parts and hardened steels containing nickel and chrome alloys.
@@357magdad muchas gracias
Good stuff!
Thanks man!
Nice Job!!
Thanks!
Which gives more of a matte black finish?
Thanks for watching! I don't think the bluing solution adds any gloss to the part. I think if the metal has a matte finish before bluing, it will retain it.
@@357magdad so which one would you recommend?
@@colesnyder7640 Super Blue
Why 2/32 not 1/16?
I see that on a lot of the nail sets. It seems like 2/32 and 3/32 were the most popular sizes. Maybe they used just 2's and 3's to save money on tooling?
Excellent!!
Thanks!
Turned out awesome!🇺🇸👍🇺🇸
Thanks WM3!
Good stuff for sure!
Thanks!
Very nice!
Thank you!
Looks real nice
Thanks Tony!
Very nice.
Thank you!
I used this to touch up a pin head nicks and scratches, it never works, nicks and scratches stay shiny.
What grit was the belt?
Thanks for watching! I usually start out with a 120 grit, then a 220 and finish with 400. If I want to go high polish I'll use the 600 and 800 belts.
Thank you!
Good job 👍 😊
Thanks Sparky!
I going have to try to blue something
Give it a try!
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Thanks for watching! I'm not sure if it is available outside the US.
I bet you won't find a punch factory nowadays in Bridgeport. Not that I know a damn thing about Brideport just that I think it's important for something.
Thanks for watching! American manufacturing is definitely not what it used to be!
@357magdad no worries. Thanks for making the video. I Googled Bridgeport. There was a gigantic Remington firearms factory there in the early 1900's. That punch IS American history. I'm a mechanic by trade, I appreciate tools.
I'm like #360
I ordered some super blue for the 🔪 I make never blued them gunna try not thx for the upload
perma blu chuck and see how he looks
He already asked about getting his beak Flitzed!