My final thoughts were those of feeling both very sorry for and very grateful to the poor aircraft.. it seems to have gone well above and beyond the call of duty in spite of human intervention to end its existence !
Very good simulations and appreciate the accidents and incidents covered on this channel are much less known compared to the repetition found on other Aviation channels.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN: “According to the Captain, he refused a crew change the day before the flight because this solution appeared to be a last minute fix to him”???
Hi Alec, I’ve been following your content here for some time now, and I’m always mesmerized by the amount of effort and research you put into these videos. It makes me a bit curious because there’s one incident that is reaching its 20th anniversary this coming October 24th. N501RH, owned by Hendrick Motorsports, crashed in Virginia on its way to the race being held at Martinsville Speedway that day. I don’t know if you do requests, so it’s alright if you can’t or don’t want to do this; I just thought it’d be a nice way to remember those who were lost on that day 20 years ago.
It seems like there have been some problems with autothrottles. The DC8 systems manual shows a warning light and what appears to be an automatic disengagement system.
@@johncantwell8216 So, both Airbus and Boeing have autothrottle issues on at least one of their models. Do you know by chance if any of them did anything to address this?
@@BlueSkyUp_EU Don't know the answer to that. And as these systems become more and more complex, with different control modes that are not always well-understood (in addition to the loss of the flight or systems engineer), I'm sure difficulties will continue.
9:58 the "autothrottle anomaly" is it adding power to stabilize at Vapp after the late configuration changes and the rapid deceleration toward Vapp. at 900 feet the speed target was changed from 180 to Vapp. Then with gear F3, F full the deceleration was likely rapid.
I see 3 possible solutions to their situation. 1. a runway stretcher, 2. throw out the anchor sooner, immediately upon touchdown., 3. downshift to a lower gear to use the transmission as a speed reducer.
Everyone is screaming about Boeing, but the fact is that there have been a HUGE number of incidents and crashes of buses due to the overly complex autopilot system, the side sticks, and other issues tied to the bus's flight controls. It takes extremely skilled pilots and exceptional CRM to handle the complexities of a bus when things go wrong, and this incident is a perfect example of this...
Both Boeing and Airbus are shared with their incidents and accidents. Both are making the best planes. The only problem are their fanboys, average joe who doesn’t know about aviation, and more.
This incident has NOTHING to do with Boeing vs. Airbus. It has EVERYTHING to do with an arrogant and extremely fatigued Captain trying to save a completely unstable landing. If someone can’t comprehend that, then they should quit wasting their time watching Alec’s excellent videos and go watch videos of kittens playing with string…
Please making video Falling star | 2003 space shuttle columbia disaster And 2024 haneda airport collision Japan airlines a350 and japan coast quard q400
Yep, the same thing happens here as well. Unfortunately, in too many critical positions, too often, we now are not hiring the most qualified person. They're forced to keep going down the list and looking for someone who fills a certain quota hire. Scary with certain positions.
Idk, even the most skilled pilots can't make wonders when fatigued and facing a malfunctioning aircraft + bad weather. 15 hours of duty would make any of us act dumb an unprofessional. This is also on the airline and on Airbus' "anomaly with the autothrottle".
A captain should have a minimum of 10,000 hours and a first officer 5,000. Until those levels of experience are attained, pilots should get experience in military, excursions or private (general) aviation.
A plane that continually comes through for you like that deserves to be in service. ✈️
💯 🌟
The fact that this aircraft was involved in both the runway overrun and the Daallo Airlines incident is pretty fricking bizarre
I have a new respect for air crews and the planes they fly in. Thanks for your great channel Allec
As always, Allec, well done👍
My final thoughts were those of feeling both very sorry for and very grateful to the poor aircraft.. it seems to have gone well above and beyond the call of duty in spite of human intervention to end its existence !
This plane was cruel when it called out the pilots. Damn!
also, the captain did not speak in plain English.
Very good simulations and appreciate the accidents and incidents covered on this channel are much less known compared to the repetition found on other Aviation channels.
Seemed like a very unstable approach with an exhausted crew and no safe CRM. Surely a go around was justified? Thank you Allec for so much detail.
Yes sir. If you're going to turn CRM on and off whenever the urge hits you, it's better to become a sugar beet harvester in Colorado.
Thank you for the suggestion to research sugar beet cultivation in Colorado. A bigger industry 100 years ago, now found mostly in the Fort Morgan area
Thats a tough bird!
*When doubt abounds you should ALWAYS go around*
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN: “According to the Captain, he refused a crew change the day before the flight because this solution appeared to be a last minute fix to him”???
600 hours?! Fresh meat. And yet the FO seemed like the smarter of the two 🤦🏼♂️
The Captain had 15 hours on duty. Fatigue played a big part in this. Also the bad weather and the uncommended increase in thrust.
More like, overconfident and extremely annoying to me.
@@arturo468 Oui!
Thank you Allec.
Another concerning coincidence of 2 incidents in one jet.
12:56 "The Aircraft was acquired by Daallo Airlines in January 2014" I know where this is going.... "Daallo 159 bombing flashbacks"
Hi Alec, I’ve been following your content here for some time now, and I’m always mesmerized by the amount of effort and research you put into these videos. It makes me a bit curious because there’s one incident that is reaching its 20th anniversary this coming October 24th. N501RH, owned by Hendrick Motorsports, crashed in Virginia on its way to the race being held at Martinsville Speedway that day. I don’t know if you do requests, so it’s alright if you can’t or don’t want to do this; I just thought it’d be a nice way to remember those who were lost on that day 20 years ago.
9:58 'an anomaly with the autothrottle'
It seems like there have been some problems with autothrottles. The DC8 systems manual shows a warning light and what appears to be an automatic disengagement system.
@@johncantwell8216 So, both Airbus and Boeing have autothrottle issues on at least one of their models. Do you know by chance if any of them did anything to address this?
@@BlueSkyUp_EU Don't know the answer to that.
And as these systems become more and more complex, with different control modes that are not always well-understood (in addition to the loss of the flight or systems engineer), I'm sure difficulties will continue.
"Shut the sh_t off, and fly the airplane!" --W. Boeing
@@travist7777 Yep!
There is TOO much complexity and computerization in the cockpit now.
That history sounds like the plane that wouldn’t die?
Wisdom comes with age. Sometimes age comes all alone. 🙄
9:58 the "autothrottle anomaly" is it adding power to stabilize at Vapp after the late configuration changes and the rapid deceleration toward Vapp. at 900 feet the speed target was changed from 180 to Vapp. Then with gear F3, F full the deceleration was likely rapid.
I see 3 possible solutions to their situation. 1. a runway stretcher, 2. throw out the anchor sooner, immediately upon touchdown., 3. downshift to a lower gear to use the transmission as a speed reducer.
Dueling control sticks that ultimately cancel each other out…Welcome to AirBus’ Achilles Heal.
A nice video
Great video again:)
Everyone is screaming about Boeing, but the fact is that there have been a HUGE number of incidents and crashes of buses due to the overly complex autopilot system, the side sticks, and other issues tied to the bus's flight controls. It takes extremely skilled pilots and exceptional CRM to handle the complexities of a bus when things go wrong, and this incident is a perfect example of this...
Why are you saying it like that? You scared that Airbus is going to come to your house and shoot you or something? They ain't American, get over it.
Both Boeing and Airbus are shared with their incidents and accidents. Both are making the best planes. The only problem are their fanboys, average joe who doesn’t know about aviation, and more.
As you can tell, I'm not on the "screen about Boeing" bandwagon...
Dude NOTHING like the MAX killings ever happened to an Airbus.
This incident has NOTHING to do with Boeing vs. Airbus. It has EVERYTHING to do with an arrogant and extremely fatigued Captain trying to save a completely unstable landing. If someone can’t comprehend that, then they should quit wasting their time watching Alec’s excellent videos and go watch videos of kittens playing with string…
Next one about Lansa flight 508, an Electra L-188
12:58 *Daallo Airlines Flight 159*
Cruel that the plane name-called them
4:52 the engine master switches are in the OFF position
Coming in high and fast. Sounds like my ex girlfriend.
That’s why the US requires 1,000 hours before becoming a FO on a commercial airline, although this FO seemed to have more sense than the Captain.
Conflicting sidestick. And Airbus think it's a better system. I just don't understand why
ah hell naw how did airbus add plot armour to the airframe composite
Tough aircraft.
I hate flying at night. I avoid it like the plague
unstabilised approach all the way.
Stabilised approach criteria??
I was thinking about that too. Maybe they use "if the plane is pointed toward the ground, everything's fine. Carry on."
can you make Skydiving plane crash Hawaii 2019
WTF would a system be designed to average stick inputs???? Shouldn’t it default to the Captain???
Air Méditerranée flownée by fatiguée retardées non stabilée o standardizée, so poupée resultée.
Please making video
Falling star | 2003 space shuttle columbia disaster
And 2024 haneda airport collision
Japan airlines a350 and japan coast quard q400
Coming In High And Fast | Air Mediterranee Flight 7817
Coming In High And Fast | Air Mediterranee Flight 7817
WHY do you keep repeating the title?
@@donnabaardsen5372 I don't get it either. We know the title.
Bored Cretin | anandguruji83
@@donnabaardsen5372It's probably a bot.
And now....let's hear from the experts.
this is what happens when pilots are hired because they are the only literate candidates in a third world country, instead of being actually competent
Yep, the same thing happens here as well. Unfortunately, in too many critical positions, too often, we now are not hiring the most qualified person. They're forced to keep going down the list and looking for someone who fills a certain quota hire. Scary with certain positions.
@@mikek8377 UAL DEI pilots
Idk, even the most skilled pilots can't make wonders when fatigued and facing a malfunctioning aircraft + bad weather.
15 hours of duty would make any of us act dumb an unprofessional. This is also on the airline and on Airbus' "anomaly with the autothrottle".
this airline the worst !!! not respecting flight duty and crew rest 😡😡
A captain should have a minimum of 10,000 hours and a first officer 5,000. Until those levels of experience are attained, pilots should get experience in military, excursions or private (general) aviation.
i can never be first.
So? Why on earth is that important at all?
One day your partner will appreciate that.
@@donnabaardsen5372 it's not important. i'm joking.
Firsttt😊
Nope😂
@@2zwaantjes😂YESSSS
So what? How ridiculous!
@@shayshayw8365so???are you hoping to get pinned or smth??allec doesn't pin these stupid types of comments lol
Well done Alec. By the way was this owned by Barney Rubble airlines??? Geeesch!!