Watch Now | Moscow PD holds second press conference on University of Idaho murders
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- A week after the murders of four University of Idaho students, the Moscow Police Department is holding another press conference to provide more information to the public.
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My good friends daughter lives a block from the home! And she is beyond scared and possibly won't go back. I am so beyond sick for these families I hope Justice is served swiftly! God be with everyone who has been affected by this tragedy and as an Idahoan I am proud to see the ISP, Moscow PD and the FBI working so hard to solve this 🙏🏽
Justice is just a fancy word. It doesn't exist
Everyone should have at least a shotgun at home.
This sounds like a targeted attack though. You can die anywhere these days.
This is like a cartel murder, wondering if any of their parents have a drug debt.
oh shut up
Watching from Sydney, Australia. The professionalism and tactful manner this is being handled is a credit to all involved. May justice be quick and expeditious for these victims. Our deepest condolences to all involved.
Moscow PD: You all are way in over your heads on this one. And last week, you waited entirely too long to get in front of this story. Now the story's light years ahead of you, on a runaway train, and you're huffing and puffing, chasing after it. Incredible amount of mishandling here. I'm a hardcore urbanite who's not familiar with small-town life--but my goodness, you have GOT to do better than this. These "press conferences" are inept and appalling.
As a mother, I cannot begin to imagine their families' pain. The students there must be terrified and to be honest, I'd seriously consider not sending my kids back to college with no one arrested. I'm already scared to send my kids to school with the rate of violence now. Many prayers to the families, friends, school mates and community.
My heart goes out to all these kids families. 💞
😭 I hope that they find the killer before they can do it again 🙏!
Many prayers 🙏🙏🙏
Oh yeah, that’s original!
I dont understand why people even have locks on their doors with a dozen glass windows two feet off the ground. In Europe everyone has security shutters. Its the law in those countries and the crime goes down. Get your heads out of the clouds people.
@@johnnysunrocket8618 What would you like people to say? offering condolences is all we can do for now
I'm praying for all the families and friends of these young people 🙏🏻
It is very hard for me to understand how someone could gain entrance to a house stab 4 persons and escape like a ghost.
The killer prolly cut their throats right away so they could not yell
Lots of people could get in that house silently. Once a person has a slit throat they can not yell/scream. If the killer kills them quickly then the victim can't even make noise with their body.
Yeah but there's been people that lived and survived with their throat slashed and still can talk
Note they said they had been stabbed “CHEST and UPPER(throat) area “
Ted bundy and other killers like the night stalker and also the Gainesville ripper had accomplish this feat already
Look them up
they said some of the victims had defensive wounds so they were likely yelling as well.
It a sad day when as a Parent u can't even send your child too College without worrying over them and a bad tragedy like this happened to the four young adults. There trying to get a Education and a degree. Once again, I am so so sorry for your all's loss. God gain four more beautiful Angel 's , they have there wings!!
What's sad is the things that the so called innocent college kids get into when they are away from family and in a different town. They become not so innocent.
@@anitakristensen4679 blame them victims, Boo! Yeah.
Why didn't they have firearms for protection?.
It was a knife fight
@@eugenecrawford14 I had a pistol and shotgun at home when I lived off campus. Had someone try to break in too. Police showed up just in time to save his life and arrest him.
@@anitakristensen4679Considering they were saying already that they think somebody entered in through the unlocked sliding glass door… All we know that THESE kids got into while away from home, was thinking sadly that they could leave a door unlocked or simply forgot to lock it when a creep was clearly watching them move about……………..
I wonder why they are hiding who the caller to 911 is … hmm
They rule out: Driver, guy on food truck footage, roommates. They said calls made during the night to ex boyfriend have no correlation with the case or a suspect, so potentially they also rule out the ex boyfriend.
What is suspicious to me is the following: The roommates are not regarded as suspects, but they said the 911 call was made from one of the roommates phones, but they did not say in particular who the 911 call made, if it actually was one of the roommates, why is the police not confirming it?? I do believe that the killer would be one of the people who has more information on the 911 call which was made a little bit before noon so they are not telling the public who the 911 call made.
Such a terrible waste of young lives. Condolences to the friends and family of the victims, this has ruined so many lives. 😢 Just wanted to add, as someone who is a very heavy sleeper, I can easily believe the other people in the house did sleep through. Yes some sounds will wake me instantly, but it's amazing what I can sleep through.
If they were smart, they probably had their bedroom doors locked. 👍
In their house with four others living there, you hear noises and get used to it.
@@desres2281 I think the two survivals were in the basement part of the home with their bedroom doors locked.
No way it would of been beond anything they have ever heard multiple stabs not one or two. These people are Lying. No doubt
My heart goes out to the families and friends of these victims!! ❤ And I appreciate law enforcement's efforts to find the person responsible for these horrific murders, and to hopefully bring justice!
Yes, I too appreciate how NOTHING is known til now. The statements released are a mockery.
1. No threat to public safety.
2. Murderer is on the loose, but no threat because it was targeted.
3. There MIGHT be some threat but don’t worry.
4. Panic! Just panic.
Whoever did this is one sick individual. My heart ❤️ goes out to the families. They better not blame this on mental illness.
Depends on you did it.
It is a mental illness but should still be removed from society permanently. This was one of their own, meaning another young adult doing drugs and out at the bars all night. They can not handle rejection or disagreement without some sort of breakdown.
@@georgeedward602 why does everyone use mental illness? I think it was someone with a grudge.
@@Jazz1959 Something is mentally wrong with anyone who kills four people in their sleep. That is all I meant by this person is definitely mentally ill.
I would still put them on death row.
I respect the PD, FBI, others working so hard to solve this horrific crime. It’s a slippery slope disclosing more information to the media and compromising the investigation. The murderer(s) are probably watching this and PD don’t want to give the perp a heads up. That’s what I’m hoping at least 😢
I really feel like the police just don't know what to think or what's going on. They seem overwhelmed.
@@magatexan3418 I think the FBI, local PD, and state PD know a lotttttt more than they are letting on. Or at least they have defined suspect(s), are getting evidence together, and waiting to apprehend before announcing it. It’s so horrific I’m sure they are somewhat overwhelmed but they seem very capable to solve this horrendous crime.
I think they know exactly who it is and are simply building the case against them. If they know it was targeted, they know the target and who might target them.
@@themartdog that is totally what I think too. Hoping they’ll be able to get enough solid evidence to take the murder(s) down soon. 🙏🤞
@@magatexan3418 I don't think they are overwhelmed. I believe there are many investigators who have children the same age as the victims and they are saddened, angry and heartbroken. They don't want to miss any clues and they want to solve this case but make sure it is done in a way that ensures conviction. I, like many, believe they have much more information than they are telling us, which is alright with me. I can wait.
Thank you to LE for your hard work on what must be an impossibly heartbreaking case and I'm sorry you have to listen to idiots on social media who can't seem to understand that this is a active investigation. Some of us understand that you'll fill the general public in on the details when it is appropriate to do so.
Well said, thanks
People have unrealistic expectations and demand an investigation to reach a quick conclusion like a Law and Order episode.
@@nelsonmuntz3194 it's beyond frustrating... all the dumb comments I've read, they think we're in a movie... things take time.
This better not turn into a cold case.
Or what? The fake outrage is 🤣. You don't care at all.
Too late. Unless there's 3rd party DNA on victims, or someone already cleared messes up, they sound clueless. Can't believe cops are so worried about rumors in public. Shows they're spread out everywhere except the right place
I really pray 🙏 this person is caught very soon
News flash there are lots of cold cases that never get solved lots of monsters that need to be caught that haven't this is not the movies
I don’t understand how the surviving roommate who made the 911 call only thought a person was unconscious when 4 people had been stabbed with so much blood everywhere
Exactly right Miss Burns, Instinct shoulda been yanking something wrong out of somebody’s mind!
Lost in translation
The caller could have been in shock & not see the wounds or blood
Beyond sad! Condolences to families. I hope that someone out there knows something that can help law enforcement solve these murders.
Sounds like they have a Suspect but they’re not saying.
They tend to do that when the suspect is non-White.
Or at least a “Person of Interest”
Not yet. Hold your cards.
They have the evidence that’s why they were so positive in the beginning not to worry they said but once they ran all the possible suspects with unmatched DNA that’s when they began to say “we need your help “
This unfolding story is a horrific tragedy and it’s breaking my heart on so many levels and I’m quite a few states away from Idaho
I’m in the Uk ,this is a big international case now
My condolences to all of the family members who lost their beautiful and beloved young stars far too soon at the hands of a coward. Yes if you are reading this you are a disgusting coward!! Also to all the friends and University families away from home I send you love and light during a very difficult time. Everyone stands with and behind you as you find a way to navigate this horrific tragedy. ❤️❤️❤️💙
The killer appears to have military training and be able to handle a knife comfortably
Lol they ded
@@Colbzz be careful
It’s so unsettling what some humans are capable of
The fact that they walk amongst us and look normal is terrifying.
@@mirrrstery also why does that cop keep almost smiling ?? what's up with that.
every time I see him.
@@timewa851 nervousness/anxiety, this is a lot of pressure to be under
@@timewa851I think he just has resting glad face.
@@queenofswords6463 How do you answer each other's questions consecutively ? without using re reply comments?
Condolences to the families and friends. Also appreciate the hard nonstop work of the police on the various levels to solve this horrendous crime!
This is beyond comprehension: may God be with all who have been affected by this horrific tragedy; ✝️
If God wasn’t “with the victims” before their murders, what can he do now? I bet I won’t get a single answer.
@@D_Parks it is my belief that God was not only with them before but during the time they were murdered. He wrapped his arms around each one of them and they were protected from the pain inflicted on them as God took them to Heaven. Even though their lives were short here on Earth they are all together with God celebrating their eternal lives.
@@darlaavard3318 Seriously please tell me how that makes sense to you?
@D. Parks As I stated... it is my belief. There is no need for you to agree or believe as I do or judge me. Thank you for taking time to read my reply. It may make more sense to anyone that has read the book or seen the movie "The Shack".
@@darlaavard3318 I read that book years ago when I was a Christian and found it compelling. But now NONE of it makes sense!
Sending condolences and prayers 🙏 to the family and friends
When these murders first happened, the police said was that there was no danger to the community. However, the longer this drags on and the more people they keep ruling out as possible suspects, people are becoming more and more terrified. And who could blame them?
I think it’s fair to say it’s very normal for people to be unsettled and scared after 4 students are brutally murdered
Because the primary suspect is from a wealthy connected family. Gingerly building a case.
@@joinjen3854 oh yeah ? I never thought about
@@davidmaez7253 @joinjen who’s the primary suspect
@@katehunt7497 I only heard speculation that one of girls killed had a stalker a few months ago and that info came from Mark Furhman yes that Mark Furhman. He lives in Idaho now, but it's a baffling case. There has been alot of misinformation released, they were not bound and gagged according to a detective who was interviewed yesterday.
I still don’t understand how there was no blood or tracks/footprints leading from the house. The killer had to have been soaked on blood. Did they clean up and take a shower there?
Changed shoes?
maybe. Or they were methodical and had their shoes covered with baggies and took them off before they left
This is like something out of a horror movie, I can not even imagine what these families and those roommates are going through… 💔😪🙏🏼
You know, there will probably be a movie made out of this case. 😔
Four dead descendants of colonizers
My heart is so broken for these families, friends, & this community. What kind of horrible sick evil monster from hell walks amongst them. Burning in hell is the only good sentence.
Condolences to friend and families. Best wishes for LE as they continue to investigate this tragedy.
I pray who ever did is found asap. God bless you sweet 4 angels🌻💛
Killer must have a cell phone. If not on him during the murders, in his car. No car, it's a neighbor.
Someone covered in blood is not walking around the street.
Can't the cell tower pings be checked?
What has been said so far strongly suggests (SUGGESTS) that these murders were well planned out. The suspect would know not to take a phone with - - - -
You have to have a number to check for
One reporter asked the best question near the end. "How do they not wake up?"
Was wondering the same thing. Were they all drinking at this Bar?
On another floor with well-insulated walls (in Idaho). With a fan or music on. Door locked. Used to odd bumps and noises from other partiers on other floors all through the night. Easy.
The other 2 roommates stay in the basement.
I believe they were all out at parties or bars that night. I know I drank in those days, so I’ll wager they were sleeping hard.
It’s not surprising that they didn’t hear anything.. they were not on the same floor as them .. and plus if u can say that than what bout the others who were murdered after the next … they didn’t hear anything either obviously
The way the main officer turns bright red, and looks like he’s about to have a heart attack is disturbing.
I imagine there’s a considerable amount of anxiety from being under pressure and in front of the media frenzy.
the Smiley Guy? He always looks like he's on the verge of a big grin & it's as weird as this whole 'Bleeding House' situation. And sleepy roommates. And all the rest.
@@timewa851 he is under a lot of pressure. It is a standard human response to smile when speaking while nervous. It doesn’t mean he is happy or amused. Please learn the difference it will suit you to know this
He did that during the last presser, too, and I'm wondering whether it isn't some combination of stage fright and stress. Perhaps not accustomed to public speaking.
I'm sure he is stressed and perhaps has some anxiety speaking in front of a crowd a people.
This press conference didn’t really offer new information other than to confirm that there were other people in the house when the 911 call was made. For everyone asking why the surviving roommates didn’t hear anything for those old enough Ted Buddy, committed a similarly horrific crime in a sorority house. He strangled and bludgeoned four sleeping women raping and killing two of them. He had scoped the house for days before he attacked. There where a few other girls in the house….none heard anything. One of the victims crawled out of her room to get help and was discovered by a girl coming home that night. In fact the police said her car lights made him run or he would have killed all the girls in that house. There have been other crimes committed in homes where others were present but reported hearing nothing. They were all sleeping according to the police. I believe the police assessment that this was targeted. The killer probably watched the house and knew who was there to prevent any surprises. To use a knife makes me believe that were confident that they could over power the victims enough to stab them to death. The surviving roommates where not the target it seems. They came home earlier than the victims so if the killer was watching and waiting, they would have known they were there. This was truly a horrific and evil act. The families will never be the same.
Netflix and tv in general is being flooded by murder mysteries and crime docuseries. We live in a world today where many are resentful and angry. They are easily influenced and or dealing with mental illness. They could be inspired by these past serial killers. We used to hear these gruesome murders all the time in the 70s and 60s and before and they kinda stopped. This screams excited new serial killer.
Focus on that bar, the two women spent hours at before they went to the food truck.
Locals and students hung out there.
I agree, I think they may have made some one at the
Bar mad, Rebuffed him.
They have to have cameras at the bar and parking lot. I think they will find their suspects there. I have this weird feeling about that shady looking bar that attracts local rednecks. Sorry to use that word but I think some local lunatic did this.
God bless these investigators and guide them to a just result to this horrendous crime. Whoever is guilty is less than an animal.
The policeman speaks very tentatively
There's something wrong here.
He's wisely being tentative because he doesn't want to tip off to the killer what the investigation has already uncovered. Details about the case that have not been divulged and spread ad nauseum by the press will prove useful when they interrogate actual suspects.
Ok Nancy Drew , please give your info since you must be a detective and know wtf happened.
What happen to common sense,,there isnt any part of this that makes sense. There is alot of cover up going on here.
Parents who are dropping their kids off at college, as well as the students themselves, should take the initiative to bring a suitable door lock/surface bolt/heavy-duty latch with them, along with a precharged, rechargeable battery-operated power drill, necessary screws, and thin wood blocks to use as shims for their bedroom doors. It's clear that the locked door is the only thing that saved the surviving roommates. College students are notoriously irresponsible and your child must be counseled about this and how to maintain their own safety when others are negligent. I've been told to stuff it by college students when I give my lectures, too, but all you can do is try.
Hindsight 20/20 but you are still right
The killer might not have even realised there was a third floor with students sleeping on it.
I feel like they were staying at those apartments and had been jealous of one of the girls I have a feeling a ex of one of these people will end up being involved in this. And in a situation like this you have no idea how you would react to situation. I believe in the end it is gonna shock the families to the core to learn it is someone they trusted
The police officer is literally breaking out in hives in front of everyone....
i feel like the person who did this is long gone and it wouldn't seem weird for someone to pick up and leave school because students were already leaving since it's a holiday week coming up, unless they weren't a student.
I wonder if a suspect is being identified as NOT a suspect so that person won't flee while they get their evidence lined up.
Yep.
That’s kind of what I thought. Although the boyfriend doesn’t give me killer vibes but you can’t judge a book by its cover. Sometimes people just rage and do evil things. Part of me would think that an amateur would have left more evidence or behaved strangely enough for others to speculate. This was done like the perpetrators had done this before or had the confidence to kill four people and skate out of there unnoticed. Such a tragic occurrence
This just confirms my belief the human animal is the most dangerous in the Animal Kingdom. How could someone so brutally murder 4 young adults like that? If I was a student on or off campus, I would not feel safe since we don't know who was targeted and for what reason, and therefore other friends or acquaintances of those murdered could be targeted also. So sad.
You're one of them...
You should never feel safe anywhere then.
I agree with you. And it’s impossible to tell who they are. They can be here in the comment section such as the individuals above my comment 🧐
There is a story online about a dog that was skinned and killed in the same area about a month ago.
@@jebbyjones8713 My god… 😓 I hadn’t heard that, but I did read that they are suspecting someone who’s murdered before and who is proficient with large knifes - like that of a hunter etc…so the dog incident sounds curious. 😞 And there’s loads of evidence which shows that many killers got their start with animals. There was a recent double murder in the UK where 2 slaughterhouse workers butchered 2 other humans. One more reason to close down all slaughterhouses and to go vegan.
Thank you to all working on this case. My prayers are with the families of these young people.
Reporters are on the same line as politicians. Idiots...
These aren't the Killers 1st kills. The brutality and the fact the killer entered a house full of healthy college students and killed 4 of the 6 in the house. This is a scary situation
I agree Not an ex or someone with a vendetta, a anrgy or jealousy sitaution which is the "personal" situation they are speculating. It's probably a deranged killer who's "voices inside his head" told him to do this, and he's rerady to strike again
My guess is the killer has experience in, and is adept at hunting, and has been doing it for most of his life. (Deer, elk etc.) Could also be intrigued by the "para military" persona.
This gives expirenced physcopath killer vibes … also cheap hunting knife break easily so he must have done his research and bought a good Rambo style knife and knew where to stab
Definitely someone who has been in the house before. Just like Cassie Jo stoddart, it was their associates
@@MikeBarbarossa I think it was a casual partygoer who was looking for the perfect situation and found it. Probably a friend of a friend who wanted to kill anyone they could. Much like Cassie Jo stoddart's Killers. Blood thirsty disillusioned kids who saw a soft target and struck. Sounds like there was a time when the house was completely empty. They could have snuck in then, waited til house quieted and struck
I would not let my kid continue studying there
There hasn’t been a murder in Moscow, ID since 2016. I’m glad they’re getting so much help.
He handled it well ,it must be incredibly stressful to be in that situation with all these questions thrown at you
It's weird that they won't confirm the 911 caller. There's meaning behind that. It makes me wonder, who used the phone? Is there a reason to not just say it was one of the roommates? Was the phone taken and used later by the killer? I just don't get the secrecy behind that little detail.
The police aren't going to say much about any of this crime until they have the suspect in custody. Criminals watch the news and they learn from it, as well as from each other.
Think about it, why haven't you heard anything more about that dude that shot up the 4th of July parade? Left the rifle on the roof with his fingerprints and nonchalantly walked away dressed like a female (in a skirt).
They rule out: Driver, guy on food truck footage, roommates. They said calls made during the night to ex boyfriend have no correlation with the case or a suspect, so potentially they also rule out the ex boyfriend.
What is suspicious to me is the following: The roommates are not regarded as suspects, but they said the 911 call was made from one of the roommates phones, but they did not say in particular who the 911 call made, if it actually was one of the roommates, why is the police not confirming it?? I do believe that the killer would be one of the people who has more information on the 911 call which was made a little bit before noon so they are not telling the public who the 911 call made.
@@janesevy4372 he had gloves on and it was a balmy 90° he was caught later in the day about 200+ miles away. Car filled with ammo and gun, planning on another shooting. He was freaky, I got goose bumps seeing his picture.
@@katrinamichaels6902 what? explain
@@TrickRacing I was responding to Jane, talking about the guy who shot and injured people at a 4th of July parade💕
God's speed to catch their killer. Prayers to the families and friends.
This is crazy! Between school shootings we have horrors like this! I think of what each of them must have endured. I hope who ever did it gets caught.
This is unfortunately like a scary movie! So scary and sad . Who’s next ? He/she walks amongst us. Everyone should be on high alert!!
Very “Scream” vibes
Why hold a press conference if you can't give the answers the community needs and are seeking ??
And you are one who would complain, no matter what. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
Protocol
@@lesleyhughes3174 this isn't about me and what I would do or say , im not that important. This is about finding a killer who's still out there and answering questions for a concerned community and bringing justice for the family of the victims.
@@lgrw and they don't have those answers, yet! All they can do is keep investigating and keeping those who need to know, updated.
@@lesleyhughes3174 which is why I I asked why are they even holding a press conference?? .. If there isn't any new pertinent information don't waste everybody's time and then be short when the people want answers. Thats all I'm saying .
Geez...the chief was turning red by the minute, lots of pressure on these folks.
This is such a tragic thing! And I'm sure very frightening to people who live there! Here's hoping they find the killer/killers as quickly as possible! In the mean time don't panic & do everything to stay safe possible!
So the two of the girls were home first,and somebody else was there with them.The four came home later and they are the ones to get killed.Someone was waiting for them to get home.
Very worried this will turn into a cold case I pray that is not so but starting to get a bad feeling. Really really really need Justice for these young people and their families whose lives were taken in such a brutal manner. May they R.I.P…
Sooo… one good thing, I thought, was they said they did not have a suspect “in custody.” They did NOT say they don’t have a suspect. Meaning they may have started to narrow down suspect(s), but are gathering more evidence to confirm. Maybe I’m reading too much into that, though.
@@janellie1985 I pray so….
@@janellie1985 Not all reading too much into it. I get the feeling they have multiple lead's. Why their being tight lipped on info.
@@shannons842 I hope so. Lots of cases go unsolved. I hope this one doesn't, but that's also a thing that happens (TV shows have skewed our perspective...detective work like this is SO HARD).
In Atlanta we had a woman literally gutted in the largest park in the city while walking her dog after dark. Hasn’t been and will never be solved. It’s seems if there isn’t surveillance or dna it won’t get solved.
Surprised one of the reporters didn't ask if the roommate's phone needed a pin or a finger print id to use it.
I know.. the reporters asked stupid quotations and most asked the same questions.. you’d think there would be at least 1 reported that knows how to ask the right questions to get the cops to slip up.
I think emergency call,don’t need pin no or finger print.
@@gloeug7971 exactly right. You can make 911 calls without a fingerprint or code.
@@gloeug7971 I know, just thought someone would have asked so they could maybe asked where the phone is normally kept at night. Just curious.
@@khinkskhoils7647 Just so sad what humans can do..... it’s just like the story of “Jack the ripper”. What have we not learn as human?
These police officers and investigators have seemed to be utterly incompetent from the very start. No new information was shared during this press conference. This is all old information. The Captain taking questions at the end got eaten alive and couldn’t keep his words straight. Having lived in Idaho for years none of this surprises me unfortunately. Most of these officials were put in their positions because of long time family ties rather than qualifications. The Officer couldn’t even understand half of the legal vocabulary the reporters were using and asked for clarification on questions that couldn’t have been more clear.
EXACTLY RIGHT--no new info, just a performance for the public because this "investigation" and this department's response was slow as molasses and botched from the get-go. This is an attempt to counter the negative perceptions swirling around this department. I hope these don't turn out to be some backwater keystone cops who are wading out of their depth. They needed to bring in some big-city assistance early on.
Notice how he didn't say the ex boyfriend they called a ton of times has been cleared...
These young people taken so early in their lives....there dreams and future dnatched away from them SO YOUNG! Breaks me heart💔
To the parents and family, my heart is broken for you. I do not know what to say.
God bless and direct all the public service officers helping to find justice for these four souls.
This whole incident is horrifying!
My condolences for these families who lost their loved ones.. so very sad..
such a thorough job the police our doing… praying for justice.. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
No cameras, unlocked house, sleeping in rooms with no locks. Yikes. Safe neighborhood or not, you simply cant do that.
@Real Aiglon No a combination of cameras and good locks give you enough time to know that someone is breaking into your house. I have an alarm system rigged to my front and side doors. I get alerted even before someone can get near a door.
Once the person is inside he is as good as dead. ar 15, combat knives and crossbow.
A good bedroom lock ensures that you will be up and awake if someone is trying to break into your room. Kicking wont wont, I have bolts locks everywhere.
Wow. As a parent with a kid that is currently going there, this has been horrible. We could of received a messages like this every day. But we didn’t. We heard rumors. We’ve heard mix messages from the police that contradicted each other. We heard misguided media reports. I’m not saying we needed to know details. However, simple things like “the killer may be at large.” We’ve received nothing about this horrible situation.
My condolences to the families that lost love ones.
Mark Fuhrman said on Fox News that it was said that Kaylee had a stalker. This is a huge lead if it was in fact true. If true you would think her family and friends know the identity of this stalker. That should be suspect number one.
I don’t believe anything coming out of MF mouth.
Cause Fuhrman is a reliable source. So reliable he tanked the OJ trial. I wish all these media houses would stop using washed up failures as "expert panelists"
@@02biddle He may be a racist but he was a damn good detective. And that’s all that matters. OJ can be blamed on the jurors and idiot judge.
I feel like it’s going to be hard to pinpoint who did it, (if it was a student(s) by letting them go home and finish the semester remotely.
I get safety and grieving is important, but it’s basically letting the person flee and cover their tracks extra well.
If they forced students to stay and someone else got killed you would never hear the end of it. Plenty of students would leave anyway
Why can they rule out the roommates so quickly? Not directly involved but followed home by assailants
Whoever did this, is already a serial killer. Anyone that knows anything about this, please speak. Make sure everyone is safe from this monster. He/she/them….please see that you are protected, as shown in this. Please don’t be afraid to speak.
As long as Delphi investigators/detectives don't get the case, this should be figured out promptly.
Tell me about it 🙄😕
The first answer must address, how does somebody call 911 about only one "unconscious" person, when it's a violent bloody attack on two pairs of people in two rooms?
I don't understand how no evidence was left behind and it took from the time of their death to half of a day to find out they were dead and the girls the two victims they know that that girl dog don't be outside they didn't miss the dog barking later on that day and another thing is no one should have been allowed to leave that town without this investigation being over
Why would the 911 call describe an unconscious person AND NOT describe blood everywhere??
The caller may have described the blood. Descriptions relayed through dispatch are often vague or don’t describe what we might think are the most “important” details.
It’s normal. It could just be boiled down to how something was entered into the system :)
Exactly that's what I was thinking
That's just what they're telling us probably. Person could have been screaming about blood everywhere on the call. Hopefully they release the call after they figure this out.
So they have not released any details on the identity of "Jack" or how he fits into the personal lives of at least two of the murdered girls. They have stated, though, that they don't believe he's the killer. They have not identified the person who called "911" except to say that the phone call was made from the phone of one of the victims. He said other people arrived at the residence that day, so this would suggest that the call was made by one of those persons (that is my inference based on what the LE officer said).
Kaylee’s parents said they “2000%” stand by Jack and said they were getting back together.
What I heard was the 911 call was made from one of the survivor's (roommate) phone; by a friend who had stopped by the next day. That would make sense as the roommate was probably in no condition to make the call herself. I would assume (I said assume) the visitor was male because a guy not living in the house would be more emotional stable at that moment. NOTE: This is all a guess. The officer was quite clear. The surviving roommates have been cleared and the person making the 911 call was not involved in the incident. THAT IS WHAT I HEARD.
Jack is Kaylee's boyfriend and they are on a break, but still talk to ea other.
@@BonBon-kg4mq you heard it correctly!
I wonder if the friend came by and one of the roommate's went to answer the door and came across the scene and was too in shock to call so the other person did
Wow, the sheriff seems like a bumbling idiot. The victims, their families and the community deserve a competent investigation.
Yeah, well, this sure ain't it.
Are you trying to tell me that other friends had arrived there BEFORE the cops were even called, because he said the call was made from one of the girls phone and they wernt going to tell who it was yet, but there were other people there. WHY would the girls who had to have called other people first to come there, not call police first?? To get their stories straight??????
@@losganjales1012 because their stupid. Dont forget, these are college kids which arent the smartest these days. And I cant imagine waking up and finding my friends all slashed to death and the first thing I do is call my friends Joe, Molly and Kevin to come look what happened before I call 911. Did they try to help the victims first in case one had a heart beat? It would not surprise me if they didnt put pictures of their friends on Tic Toc asking who did this to my friends?
@@losganjales1012 i’m assuming some friends turned up uninvited (maybe because they were worried about no one in the house answering calls or texts?)
Maybe they are trying to keep the other girls safe, if the killer wasn't aware there were 2 other people that could potentially identify him .Just a thought.
also you have to note the detectives did say the killer was messy leaving hella clues( they don’t want to release what clues they’ve found) so for all we know the foot prints could belong to a bigger guy or the thumb prints don’t match neither of the acclaimed suspects like jack showalter why he was thrown aside for the moment … they don’t want to release what they’ve found .. remember they had multiple teams gather forensic evidence means they probably have a lot of it just not have found someone to match the evidence too… THEY HAve plenty of evidence just not a MATCH to a suspect
I don't expect the LE to say much of anything of importance because criminals watch the news updates. Criminals learn from other criminals. They watch for the screwups as well as the successes.
This case is eerily similar to the Gainesville Ripper case
Revenue from that one has really dried up I bet?
How do you not know how many friends were there when the 911 call was made???
What!!!???
*In my Humble Opinion we have only one choice in really getting justice for all our kids being slaughtered. Justice for them would be to change the Society n culture they have all been born n raised into. We are a very sick country full of very sick people and it's up to all of us to change this. it's only a choice*
What I don't understand is about the 911 call. The caller said someone is unresponsive. If it was one of the victims, I believe you could tell it was a lot more than unresponsive. Maybe someone else was unresponsive as in one of the other visiting friends or one of the survivors? Maybe at that time, the victims hadn't even been found yet. And IF that's the case, what prompted LE to search the other floors. So many questions. Very complex case. I pray for justice for the family and friends and I have confidence that the PD and all others assisting with determination will catch this killer.
Excellent point!
I'm sure the caller explained all the blood, etc... But the dispatcher was probably asking if they were dead or not. Asking the caller if they were responsive at all, and they answered back, "No". So it then got reported as an unresponsive person.
@@cannotbeshaken7889 exactly. They only say “deceased person” after first responders check for vitals. They don’t speculate on that, so they’ll just relay it as “unresponsive” or “unconscious”
We are so broken as a society
A question I haven't heard is:
Its been two weeks since the murders. Out of all the interviews conducted, do they think they may have interviewed the killer?.
I can’t wait till they release the 911 call in 3 years.
Those surviving roommates r so, so lucky they lived in the basement where bedrooms are usually not located. Slash violence does not include serial assault. They stalk again.
This is downright scary!! I hope they find this person soon!!
All due respect and condolences to the family. LE, FBI included, need to not clear anyone. So many cold cases have shown this. Also, the stories of other roommates and defensive wounds on the victims seems to be at odds with the reality that if there were defensive wounds, there would have been noises heard. Like I said, with all due respect but I think that the narrative being proffered is flawed, for one reason or another.
I hope the police and forensics are digging into the victim's recent electronic messages, social media, texts, onlyfans, tinder, Instagram, all of it.
Bet they don't have the expertise.
That's why they need outside help.
Police who know technology, cell towers etc.
it's not 1990! That is pretty much standard investigation now
But Shame it isn't 1990 because people would not feel entitled to think they 'know' and give speculation-Technology has its downside too.
For all you know this could end up a cold case
Yeah, I'm sure l.e. never thought of all this? So many "detectives" sitting behind their computers.
@@dawnywarthog6642 I'm not really into reality TV but there is a great British and on Australian TV station a series called Hunted. I think there is the same thing in the US but the English is really good and did enjoy the pilot in Australia.
The main purpose behind the show is the technology available to law enforcement and every digital footstep can be traced.
Sounds like there was other ppl there besides the 4 victims and other 2 roomates. The 911 call saying somebody is unconscious or just maybe trashed out of their mind from one of the roommate's phone is confusing. If all involved with the 911 call have been cleared, then why not clarify this, why be so vague.
Maybe one of the surviving roommates had a boyfriend stay overnight and that person called 911.
What a heartbreaking case, and you can tell the police are also stunned by the unimaginable violence. Kudos to the local police for the handling of it. I am also aware and appreciative of the other law enforcement agencies involved. I will say it's a bit surprising to me that they haven't got someone in mind yet. A crime of this magnitude in a small college town like that would seem indicative to an obvious perpetrator, or at least a more likely reason as to why this could have happened to these young people. Continued prayers for all affected.
Don't bother watching. Absolutely nothing said that we haven't heard for the last 3 or 4 days.
Just officials trying to prevent criticism. Nothing new. Nothing at all.
The murderer may return to the scene of the crime. He mey be watching this press conference. He may be reading this right now. He may be right behind you.
😮🥺😧
He/they may attend the funerals. They often do.
Why didn’t the friend (s) who arrived at the crime scene call 911 on there own cell? Why use the roommates?
I believe it was one of the surviving two roommates who called 911.
I think it was a surviving roommate too who called and I don’t understand why they can’t just say that?! Am I missing something obvious as to why they would need to hold that info close to the vest.
It's sequencing, they didn't know who it was when they called.
@@marcopolo-xj4yw I thought that also but apparently it was one of the friends that arrived there that called 911 using the surviving roommates cell.
@@heytam7162 Today’s news states that there were ‘other friends’ at the house when the 911 call was made. Maybe the roommates were too distraught to speak and a friend called on their phone. Strange that whoever called wouldn’t use their own phone tho. In any case the police have eliminated ‘that person’ as a suspect. Such a strange case.
The killer had the confidence to enter the house. He seems to have known their partying habits and perhaps expected everyone returning in early morning hours inebriated and vulnerable to his attack.
And planned just before the Thanksgiving holiday (like other killers have done), so that staffs and hours of investigators would be shortened and masses of people leaving. It was planned.
also you have to note the detectives did say the killer was messy leaving hella clues( they don’t want to release what clues they’ve found) so for all we know the foot prints could belong to a bigger guy or the thumb prints don’t match neither of the acclaimed suspects like jack showalter why he was thrown aside for the moment … they don’t want to release what they’ve found .. remember they had multiple teams gather forensic evidence means they probably have a lot of it just not have found someone to match the evidence too
But her sister said she is one thousand percent sure the kid who got dumped didn’t do it. Cuz she said. Oh and she seems to never cry or turn down a chance to get on TV
@@chasebotkin519 the sister is ODD and cold.
For everyone concerned I hope they catch the monster responsible for these killings. If I was a student I don't think I would go back.
The chief’s face and neck were turning crimson red at the end. Plus he’s visibly nervous and flustered, several simple questions had to be explained twice. He seemed shell shocked.
I'm sorry but that's not normal. Cops don't fluster like that. I'm starting to doubt this entire story. We learned nothing new.
Yes I thought he was going to faint!
But, the reporters were on it and asked great questions. Tough - cause it’s hard to be in his position. I think initially he was giving info then realized it and immediately stopped
He is a drunk for sure you can see it all over his face I guess nobody has seen the first 48 there needs to be a state wide manhunt including members of the community
@@zariballard yea, maybe it’s because he’s a small town cop over his head, but I get this sick feeling that it goes beyond that. That what he knows and isn’t telling us is so truly horrific that it got the best of him.
i noticed his face getting redder and redder. I can read people sooo well. They know something they don't want us to know for some reason.
That vile piece of Walking Evil that did this is still walking around freely, enjoying a meal today. This is why Idaho MUST begin carrying out the death penalty that it has on its books. And don't make it take years, either. 90 days is long enough.
Agreed! They should have surveillance at the house as they always say they return to the crime scene. They are walking around thinking they got away and it’s scary because who is to say they won’t strike again? They deserve to die the same way they killed.
I swear, some reporters can be the most ignorant individuals ever. It seems that half of the questions they ask have been answered directly within minutes of them asking the same damn question. Few are original in their reporting. Use your common sense people.
I can not STAND tragedy reporters. They rarely, if ever, research beforehand and they neverrrrr have knowledge grabbing questions. The only that asked a decent question is Fox, odly enough. All these small town reporters who could have had their big break working a bigger outfit..... Blew it. Totally.
Unfortunately I had the absolute displeasure of having to deal directly with these barely useful humans when there was a horrific car accident due to driver negligence and speeding even after being told not to.... And crashed killing two of the most popular kids in our high school, which only had about 100 kids in the graduating class, both seniors, 4 days before graduation. They still held graduation. One of my best friends died that night & took a piece of ALL of us with them. These bottom feeder reporters showed up at graduation, and when they were banned from the property, they stood on the sidewalks waiting for all the grads to start filtering out W their families & stuck mics in our faces... One of these barely useful humans actually asked me how I felt losing my friends days before graduation. I told her.... Well, if I type it here, you won't be able to read because I have a feeling it'll be gone. I learned two lessons at that point.... It doesn't matter how young or old, you could literally be here one day laughing & happy, making plans for your future, & be absolutely Gone the next day & it doesn't even have to make sense. And that reporters are useless bottom feeders. 🤷♀️
Christine Chubik said it best "if it bleeds, it leads". She tried to change the way news was told & tried to end tragedy pimping on nightly news.... She lost. Unfortunately. If you never heard of her, there's a few really good docs about her online. Deadbug Says is one who does a good doc on it, just know he has a dark sense of humor, lol, so...
@@Em22-wtf first my condolences on your loss. Strangely, I can relate to the accident all to well. Three of my friends and I were in a wreck 2 weeks before graduation and we lost one. 30 people in that class. We didn’t have to deal with the reporters because we were obviously in the hospital. The only reporter I ever dealt with (Steve Pike) about 4 months later, was an amazing person and good small town reporter. That was a long time ago. Times have definitely changed for the worse in the humanity and personal accountability in today’s media. Secondly, thanks for sharing your story. Maybe, (not likely) some random reporter will take heed to your comments and consider their future articles. And lastly maybe you should consider becoming a reporter yourself. You obviously have fine writing skills and a conscience. Both a lost art in reporting personal tragedy. I’m only sorry you spent the effort on my post where few people will see it.
Basically what he said in a nutshell
"We have no fucking clue"
Those poor kids! My heart hurts for the families! I pray they find the murderer!