First Time Watching *MAZE RUNNER: THE DEATH CURE* | WHY WHY WHY (Movie Reaction)
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- Опубліковано 8 тра 2023
- newt and chuck deserved better :(
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my two favorite characters in the entire trilogy got done DIRTY but at least they didn't kill Jorge and Brenda
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The romantic chemistry between Thomas and Newt was greater than Theresa and Brenda combined...
Newtmas for life lolllll
Thomas + Newt + Minho >>> Thomas + Brenda + Teressa
NEWTMAS FOREVER
Some people are just delusional
You're right. The icing on the cake was Newt's note to Thomas. It's a love note.
This movie never fails to make me sob, or I just got way too attached to Newt ☹
in the books it’s confirmed that Wicked was controlling Gally when he threw the spear and they also controlled Chuck to jump in front of Thomas. All of this to analyze their brain’s reaction to specific trauma and feelings and figure out what makes the immune and non immune different. Thomas is conflicted about it because he’ll never know if Chuck would’ve actually sacrificed himself.
So, Dylan suffered a nearly fatal injury that landed him in the hospital. He spent months in recovery, dealing with reconstructive surgery and therapy (mental, emotional, and physical). He’s very tentative about the jobs he picks, but he usually picks ones that are pretty good. Love and Monsters is probably one of my favorites, and he was in the Taylor Swift short film All Too Well, based on her semi-autobiographical song. I recommend both. ATW is only about 12/13 minutes, but worth to see him and Sadie Sink’s acting chops really well exposed for how good they are. And Love and Monsters? 👨🍳 💋 It’s a lot of fun.
I also wanted to touch on Gally. The movies didn’t do a good job at explaining his supposed death, and the tie-in comics that were published are ok for that. It makes more sense in the books when he was pretty badly beaten up by Minho and just left there. Also, Gally didn’t leave the others who stayed behind. They all died after the main group left. The remaining members of the Glade were attacked by the Grievers, and he was the only one able to escape. His redemption in this film is pretty meh, and I say this as someone who enjoys them and the books. A lot of his story could have been done a lot better, but his redemption still plucks my heartstrings.
This last movie was definitely for the fans, to wrap things up. Between the delays in filming, due to Dylan’s injury and recovery and filming conflicts between others and Kaya Scodelario (Teresa) having given birth to her first child, some things had to be changed and rewritten for the comfort and ability of the actors.
Don’t quote me on this, but for the action, Dylan actually had a pretty bad accident on set, the opening scene with him on the car went wrong. He was in the hospital for a while so I think they may have toned down the action a little (again don’t quote on that) also in the books there is no cure, that’s the point of the series is that all of the characters pain was for nothing because there was never a cure
Correction, read the maze cutter there is a cure in the books
i cried when Newt died in the book, i ugly sobbed when i watched this movie in theaters when Newt died, and this is one of many commentaries i’ve watched if this movie so i’ve seen newt’s death scene about 10 times at least now, AND I STILL SOB EVERY TIME. AND HIS NOTE AT THE END ??? always in tears. justice for Newt
*Spoilers for the books*
Alright so I don’t blame you for being disappointed in the last two movies as they’re such a let down compared to the books. Here’s what I can remember from the books:
- While I do like Brenda, she was never infected in the book and her and Jorge actually lied to Thomas about their motives. They’re both immunes and used to work for WICKED
- Newt never got bitten, he was actually purposely infected by WICKED to encourage Thomas and the others to participate in the Scorch Trials. So they never escaped the facility, they went “willingly" into the scorch to try to find a cure for Newt. Also, the letter he wrote was read by Thomas before his death, asking Thomas to kill him once he reached the point of no return. There was NEVER any possible cure for Newt : (
- Thomas’ blood is a not a cure, they never figured out one and they were gonna kill Thomas and the others to analyze their brain activity. It was never about blood cure in the book but understanding the patterns that made them immune. I believe the blonde woman saved his life and redeemed herself?
- Gally was forced to kill Chuck, he was being controlled by WICKED. Same way thy Chuck was also forced to save Thomas life. All of this was part of the study of his brain
- Teresa did not betray them like that in the books, she was forced to do it to mess up with Thomas or else WICKED was gonna kill Thomas. They were playing with them every step of the way
-The way they reach the save haven was through a portal underground, where the mazes were. Teresa died by being crushed while trying to escape with the others. It was actually sad cause she was a better person in the books
There’s so much more details but this is all I can think of at this time. I do recommend for you to read at least the prequels to the books, they’re very informative on how the virus and WICKED came to be
Damn, they we're really trying to fck Thomas up
in addition, the flare virus is airborne and Newt's death is very tragic in the books
@@zflick cried so much reading it omg
I had the biggest crush on Thomas growing up so I hated watching Newt die
(Edit) I realize I need to clarify I meant Thomas as in Newt’s actor, not Thomas the character
lmao i was trying to figure out why your crush in thomas the character made you hate him die for a sec
i love your film commentaries bc you seem to know every single actor that comes on screen
In the prequel book the kill order it goes into how it started and it gives a lot of reasoning as to why teresa does what she does. She went through so much a cure was her only focus
The virus is changing, like when they later say it became air-born; each variation became more and more aggressive faster than a cure could be found & treatments they discovered became less and less effective as the virus evolved, like viruses do~ They couldn't find/create/harvest "immunes" faster & in large enough numbers than the virus could evolve. Also, withholding any sort of treatments from the largest mass of people meant that they would inevitably be overrun.
if i remember correctly, Dylan got injured from the movie's intro sequence which delayed filming by like 8 months and limited the action later on. I also believe that in the book there is no official cure like how the movie uses Thomas' blood. It sorta means they went through so much for nothing, but at the lease they can all get away to a safe haven in the end and they are all resistant to getting the virus through airborne means.
Gally is upset about the bomb at the gate because the city itself isn't wicked it's just protected by wicked, there's a lot of innocent people who happened to be able to live there and destroying the wall basically is sentencing all of the innocent civilians to death.
That makes more sense. The end of the movie makes Thomas seem unsympathetic. If his blood is this great cure, and he's refusing to share it at all...
Dylan O'Brien ind "Love and Monsters" is a very good movie and fun apocalypse movie 😀
I love your commentary and sense of humor! I really liked this series and your reactions are great hehe
i agree this film of the trilogy had WAYY too much in so little time but it was either that or splitting it into two parts like every other y/a franchise at the time and they were probably trying to avoid that
When you said his face twitched, I realized that it was a sign of infection
“You look like a ghoul from Fallout” lisan al gaib levels of prophecy 😭
everything is so much more explained in the books.
my only gripe with this movie as a big fan of the books and movies, i do prefer how teresa died in the books. they were INSIDE of the wicked building as it was falling apart (if i’m remembering correctly) and while running through a corridor that was crumbling, a massive chunk of concrete fell on top of her and squished her like a bug. much more satisfying but at least her death in the movie she had the mental torment of knowing it was inevitable as she fell.
You should watch love and monsters!! Dylen is playing there and i think it's an amazing movie!
100% agree Jorge and Brenda are the best characters
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The King had no reason to cross the river other than pride, but that was enough for him to become crazed in the eye. He braved the fiercest storms and survived the most vicious battles, but this river somehow stopped him. His servants could hear him cry out in the night. Angel, angel what have I done? I've faced the quakes, the wind, the fire. I've conquered country, crown and throne. Why can't I cross this river?. Whispers began to spread of the king, people joked that a mere body of water had bested their mighty ruler. He grew obsessed with that river, driven to cross it at any and all costs. He had his builders build a bridge, but the river took it down. He had his soldiers brave the current, but all were lost and drowned. He had his priests pray for God's assistance, but none was ever given. Each time, they were repelled by the river and with every attempt, the king grew more agitated. He had his learned friends research the history of the river, but they found nothing of note. It was a simple river, nothing more, they urged. The King's sons constantly squabbled over the throne that would one day be theirs and saw the river as an opportunity to win their father's favor. The eldest son was the bravest and he stepped boldly into the current, but his valor could not save his life from the raging water. The middle son was intelligent and built a contraption to get across, but it failed and he was washed away with his creation. The youngest was lazy and had the river filled with boulders, but they gave way as soon as he stepped upon them. The King's three sons perished in that water and it was too much for the queen to bear, so on the night of the final funeral, she threw herself into the river. The King's obsession with the river only worsened as he drained his kingdom of all its resources in an effort to find a way to the other side. His people started to turn against him as his sanity unraveled. Those most loyal assured they'd think no less of him if he were to give up this foolhardy pursuit. But he continued to refuse. A fortnight after his wife had thrown away her life, the kingdom was gathered on the bank as the King proclaimed he would cross it himself, ordering no one to come to his aide. He believed the river to be alive and that it was testing his resolve . And on the morning of that fateful day, he was ready to risk it all. But as he prepared for the dangerous trek, a peasant girl slipped and fell in. She gripped onto a rock as the river fought hard to pull her all the way in. She cried and she screamed, but the King remained still, uncaring for her young life. But then a boy in rags stepped forward, calling out for the girl who he named his sister. He tried jumping in, but was grabbed by a soldier and told he would perish, but the boy kept trying to get to her. 'If I am to die then I will die, but I will not stand idly by,' the boy boldly proclaimed. And so he dove in, that peasant boy with no name. The crowd watched in awe as he arose from the thunderous current, his feet gripping the muck that lie beneath the surface. With all his strength, he pulled himself across and snatched his sister from the slippery wet rocks. When they made it to the other side, the King shouted witchcraft and demanded that the boy must die. His archers looked around, but did not raise their bows. He shouted and shouted, but no one did as they were told. The King was alone, feeling betrayed. And in a fit of rage, he jumped into the river, following that peasant boy with no name. He thrashed around & grunted as he pushed his way across, but just as he reached the other side, he met the young boy's gaze. The boy reached out to give the King a hand, the King who had just demanded his life. The angry King scoffed and pushed him away, grabbing a nearby tree branch to haul himself onto the river bank. The branch, well it snapped and the river sucked him back in. The crowd let out a gasp, but not a single one jumped in. As the water pushed the King beneath its waves and he took his final breath, he dwelled on all that he had lost in the recent past. His crown, his people, his wealth and his lands. His kingdom, his family and his legacy with them. This river had taken his mind and on that fateful day, the river would claim his life. And as he sank below the raging current, he saw one final sight... That peasant boy with no name and his sister by his side. Now they tell stories about that river and the nameless boy who dared to cross it. They sing of a king who was once called great, but the river in the woodlands had stolen all he attained. To this day, only those of pure heart can cross the humbling river, all others will be swept away.
saw this and never clicked FASTER
19:07 YEAHHHH SPIDERMAN XD i don't know if i thought of it when i watched the movie, but 1 second before you said the rest of the line i was like "what's that sound like?" Haha
First of all, it is absolutely criminal that you weren’t emotional by newts turn until later. Secondly, Teresa couldn’t really have made it. The scene was in slomo, which made it seem like she had a lot of time. And also, she probably had a moment of hesitation because of the things she did
(Before reading further, be warned there are some "Maze Runner" saga book spoilers. It's assumed you've seen all the films at this point.)
I can't say I agree with your reactions over all to this trilogy, but quot homines tot sententiae, I suppose. Anyway, for others, I thought I'd offer a few observations of my own:
If you know your classics, the "Maze Runner" is a retelling of Theseus and the Minotaur, of course. I'm not alone in making this connection, but it's a surprisingly select club. That's rather sad. Naturally, Thomas is Theseus, the hero. The Glade and the Gladers are Athens and Athenian youth, respectively. The Grievers are the Minotaur, the monster that feeds on the Athenian youth who have been offered as sacrificial victims. The Minotaur is half man, half bull. The Grievers are half organic, half machine. The WCKD mechanism that's found in the crushed Griever is Ariadne's thread, the key out of the maze. WCKD is King Minos, which rather coincidentally sounds like Minho. The maze motif is repeated in the "Scorch Trials" and "Death Cure."
The Glade's Athens is, however, more like "The Lord of the Flies" than classical Greece. Themes in that well-known classic include the tension between groupthink and individuality, between rational and emotional reactions, and between morality and immorality. Things which we do see play out in Thomas and the Gladers. Consider Alby's interactions with Thomas. He sees Thomas as different, curious. He seems to be warning Thomas not to be a nonconformist. Alby makes Thomas sign a contract of sorts with the Glade by having Thomas etch his name on the wall. The crossed-out names may represent prior non-conformists. When Thomas notices them, Alby says somewhat menacingly: "Those were dark days." George's name is highlighted for us. Later, Thomas finds George's partially buried remains. Interestingly, this dark place of death is where Ben attacks Thomas. In the second film, we discover George is Brenda's brother, and George looks like Thomas. So, was George a Thomas-like precursor in the Glade? Did George break the rules and did that lead to his death?
Thomas is the archetypal tragic hero. Tragic heroes are characters of elevated stature, both in birth and morality. Like most heroes, he has above-average intelligence, which means he has situational awareness; he's determined, which means he is firmly set in opinion or purpose; and he has a loyal close friend who guides, advises and helps him as he faces his trials. In the films, Newt clearly fits the role as Thomas' helper, his Ariadne. The Theseus myth also emphasizes the power of love. Ariadne helps because she has fallen in love with Theseus.
As a tragic hero, Thomas is subject to a collective fate, the will of the gods, if you will, which had precipitated the solar flares that scorched the Earth and indirectly brought about the Flare virus. A common attribute of the tragic hero is that he once held a lofty position from which he has now been cast down. Thomas' hamartia has visited his own individual fate upon himself which prompts his present adventure-journey. His moral choices while part of WCKD led him to immoral behavior, the torture and deaths of his friends. In this way, Thomas assumed the role of a god over the Gladers. That's hubris. Humans, even if they're heroes, have to be taught they are not a god. Thomas' eventual rebellion precipitated his downfall and the tragic course his subsequent life followed.
Tragic heroes suffer, and so Thomas suffers. He suffers because of his lost status, he suffers because of his past actions, he suffers because he's lost his identity and been condemned to the trials, he suffers because he's been betrayed, and he suffers most because of the deaths of companions he lost along his adventure-journey. Although Thomas' flaw is great, he has our sympathy, and we pity him. Ultimately Thomas' suffering leads him to an epiphany at the end of the third film. By this time, Thomas has gained the strength to accept his destiny which he will meet even if it means his death. Tragic heroes almost always die. This is without doubt what the epilogue of the final film means. Thomas is going back to the WCKD world, and he is going to offer himself up as a cure even if it means his life. Unlike the books, film Thomas is not going to remain in the Safe Haven with Brenda to live happily ever after. Even though WCKD's HQ was destroyed along with the city, there were more than one WCKD lab and installation referenced in the films. It's a pity there wasn't a fourth film made where we would see our hero, Thomas, noble to the end, achieve his ultimate destiny and be reunited with Newt in the Elysian Fields. That would have made a very good trio into a great quartet.
It seems incredible but heroic stories often follow the same basic pattern. In his book "The Hero with a Thousand Faces," Joseph Campbell, distilled the world's myths into a common structure which he called the monomyth or hero's journey. It's very concisely summarized as follows: A hero ventures forth from the world of common day into a region of supernatural wonder: fabulous forces are there encountered and a decisive victory is won: the hero comes back from this mysterious adventure with the power to bestow boons on his fellow man. That's the "Maze Runner" film saga in a nutshell.
Very broadly, the films actually do follow the outline of the books but differ in detail markedly. Personally, I prefer the films to the books. It's a matter of taste, I suppose. The books are darker than the films. That doesn't mean I didn't like the books. They held my interest, and I look forward to reading "The Fever Code." People frequently complain because a film doesn't follow a book exactly. There are obvious reasons why this is rarely possible, and it's often not even desirable. Books and films are two different art forms. There are different creative impulses at work in each. People need to understand the "Maze Runner" books and films as depicting two separate universes which, although inhabited by the same people facing similar challenges, evolve differently. They are going to diverge, and vive la difference! If all is done well, and the films were done very well, it doubles the fun.
There were a couple of striking differences between the books and the films that really stood out to me. Although book Thomas may be heroic, he's not a tragic hero like film Thomas, at least in my opinion. Book Thomas often thinks things like I didn't really know those Gladers so I wasn't affected when they died in that horrible manner. Cold and unfeeling, right? That's not film Thomas at all. Book and film Thomas are two different people. Also, unlike film Thomas, it's clear book Thomas hasn't been transformed in any substantial way by the end of his adventure-journey. There's no epiphany or moment of self-realization. He's merely completed his trek. He's had adventures along the way, experienced bad times and lost travelling companions, but it's all over now, and that's that. Time to settle down. Book Thomas is more like Odysseus come back to Ithaca to be with Brenda, his Penelope.
In the first film, Thomas' dream-visions hint at his backstory and make his character ambiguous. Is Gally right about him? Then there is Theresa. In our hero's adventure-journey, Theresa clearly represents the monomyth's temptress who tries to derail him. Unlike Thomas, she completely breaks the Glade's paradigm. Her arrival is untimely, she's female, and she heralds the end of the Glade's supply lifeline. Totally inauspicious. Kaya Scodelario does a good job of making her character seem suspect from the get-go. There always seems to be a mistrust-invoking aura about her. There are interesting parallels between Theresa and Thomas. Both Theresa and Thomas are betrayers. Which one is evil depends on your answer to the films' theme: Does the end justify the means? They both want a cure for the Flare. However, Theresa/WCKD are ruthless in pursuit of a cure, willing to sacrifice however many young people it takes. Thomas, on the other hand, is completely altruistic. He will sacrifice himself but not others. How can you not but admire and love Thomas?
One thing about the tragic hero motif is that those nearest and dearest to the hero often wind up either in some sort of deadly peril or just plain dead. Most often, it's dead. So, as you're watching the films you might ask yourself: Who's closest to Thomas?
The Flare virus is the "Maze Runner" saga's MacGuffin. Therefore, you really shouldn't try to make too much out of it. The "Maze Runner" trials mean to precisely isolate and produce the curative enzyme so humanity can be saved even if it means killing the immunes.
The WCKD agenda begs the question of does the end justify the means, a principle often associated with totalitarianism, which is the central theme of the "Maze Runner." The principle is part and parcel of consequentialism, a teleological theory that says whether an action is morally good or bad depends on its outcomes. The more good outcomes outnumber the bad, the better/more moral the action. Under this rubric if WCKD finds a cure, then WCKD is very good, indeed.
To sum up, these are very good and quite entertaining films which touch upon deep waters. Well-acted and well-crafted, too. The production crew and the actors together created an excellent trilogy.
Everything was a lot better explained and well-paced in the books which would make everything a lot more clear and satisfying, but I'll cut off the movies some slack because there's only so much you can adapt into a few hours. Taking away what I know as a book-reader, the movies itself are a fun watch despite the pacing of the story. The actors did a great job hooking me in, as well as the cinematography throughout the film. They were able to change the plot entirely while still being able to keep the heart of the whole series. In its own way, I'd say they're pretty solid movies.
Talking about the trilogy and its story itself-- I absolutely love it. The whole sun flare thing, the crank idea in the books and how everything came to be was really interesting, especially when you're in Thomas's shoes and you have no idea what's going on. And the idea isn't just about a bunch of kids being experimented because of a virus; knowing what happened before all of this, everything ran deeper than that which added so much more into the 'lore'. And the more we found answers about the world, the more I felt being dragged into the whole mess, and all in all it just felt like a chaotic but great experience.
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Brenda > Theresa ew
this dude just nit picks everything when most of it makes sense 😂😂
first! 🥳❤️
The books are so much better
Yeah don’t bother w Divergent. Not a bad series but It’s a let down that they didn’t finish it. Really just ended up being a waste of time
Thank you for not laughing at Teresa’s death. I come across so many death cure reactions and I always have anxiety that people will only laugh and don’t show the little respect, because a kid / teenager died. TERESA is my fav character and I never gave a damn of what others thought. She made mistakes, but as Gally said, nobody is perfect. She tried to do things right again. And she did care very deeply about THOMAS it shows her sacrifice. It breaks my heart she gave herself up in the end and it’s also depressive
I respect everyone’s opinion truly, but I despise Teresa.
@jadaabshire8061 even despite hating her, you didn’t laugh. And this is very mature. Thanks for thay