I love my 4R70W in my 75 Torino.I rebuilt it myself pretty easy to do.And I'm using US shift quick 2 it's all I need works great. My transmission is out of a 98 5.0 Explorer 2x4.And I used a 98 explorer mini starter.
I just finished installing a 4R70W into a 66 mustang. I found that my transmission had a larger slip yoke than AOD. I used a spicer 2-3-14061X which fixed the looseness and leaking
I have a 2003 v6 mustang 4r70w in my 70 mustang. First off you have to cut those ears off. Second if the plan to use the stock shifter you have to get a lokar ata 1008 shift arm and a universal th400 shift arm kit with heim joints and your good to go! Third, if you want to use the smaller aod yoke, you have to use a aod tail shift!
I'm getting ready to put one from a 96 F150 in my 69 Mustang. Did you buy an aftermarket CM or did you use the factory one? I'm thinking about trying to use the factory TCM for now to save a few bucks.
You may even be able to use a core from behind the 4.2 V6 "Essex" from an F150/E150 - they stuck with the Windsor patterns. And there's a bunch more of these in junkyards, most of them 2wd units.
They fit. I have one out of a 1998 E-150 van with a 4.2 motor getting ready to go in. The van dipstick is comically long because it has to reach all the way to the front of the engine to fit out that tiny hood opening. I made a trip around the junk yard and the shortest dipstick seems to be the one out of the 4.6L panther platform cars. I found a crown vic somebody had already removed the intake off. that made it easy to remove the dipstick from the top. Even though the mod motor bell housing pattern is wrong, the transmission dipstick+tube works on the windsor pattern transmissions.
Glad to see you doing this (again). I used your previous videos on installing the 4R70W in the wagon in prep for my install last month where I put a 4R70W (from a V6 2000 Mustang which has the same small block bellhousing pattern) behind a 408w in my '70. Unfortunately, I did run into interference issues with a couple of the ears on the case, which I discovered after getting the trans installed. One was on the top of the rear passenger side of the main case, which interfered with the tunnel. The other was an ear on the passenger side of the bellhousing that interfered with the headers I'm using. Fortunately, I was able to hack both those off without issue with the trans in the car by removing the rear mount and lowering the trans a couple inches to gain extra access. I ran into no interference at the firewall or with any of the rest of the bellhousing or trans housing. Also, because the 4R70W is 1" longer, I had to space the aftermarket AOD/T5 crossmember I used (American Powertrain part #XFFO-10101) back about 1/2". The crossmember you're using appears to have a bit more adjustment for where the mount sits, so hopefully that shouldn't be an issue for you guys. Looking forward to seeing how this project goes for you guys.
Some helpful i.d. info is the 4R70W transmission that fits the 302/5.0 engine has 2 starter bolt holes, the 4.6/Mod motor trans has 3 starter bolt holes.
@@Chris-up2ro Wowch! $2k Canadian?!?!!! I'm guessing import taxes added a bunch, but I hope you got more than just the Quick4 for that price. I just ordered in March and it was $1070 USD ($1460-ish CAD) shipped, with tax, including the Quick4, TPS5 kit, valvebody reprogramming kit, a couple Sonnax valve upgrades, and a filter.
@thewyattfletcher rule of thumb for Canadian car enthusiasts: take the $US basicprice and double it... that will be the price in can $ to my door in Canada
Hi Jeff, hope all is well at your home. Do you have a way to convert the Standard Mustang Automatic Floor Shifter to a 4 Speed (Detents and Indicator) for use with a 4R70W? I am installing one behind my 351C in my 73 Vert. Any guidance would be most appreciated! Thank you and God Speed
AOD's for V6 cars had fewer clutches in the transmission (and will be less durable behind a high power motor). Since the "70" in 4R70W is supposed to indicate the torque capacity of the transmission (700ft. lbs), maybe the 4R70W behind the V6 isn't built for less power?
Monster trans makes 3 different stages of AOD- Had mine for 5 years-works perfect and no need for costly comp controller and no wiring rats nest either !!!
Talking transmissions.....I have a 67 stock 289 C code. With a C4. I was changing the main and rod bearings. And noticed my #3 thrust bearing was cutting into the crank. So I went to have it checked and was told the torque converter was swollen causing the crank to push forward causing the crank issue. Ever run into this? Or is this an excuse to pass the buck to the next guy?
In some respects I agree with you on that. But boy I really like driving my car with a 4r70w in it. Honestly I don't even miss not having a bigger gear outback on the wagon.
I put a 4r70w in my 68 mustang convertible with a US Shift controller. It was a game changer, especially having full control over all the parameters.
I put one in a 64 econoline truck with a 347 and US shift controller. Worked great.
where did you buy or transmission? Was looking at Monster transmissions.
2001F150 4.2l 4r70w. In my 70 torino. Fits like a glove
I love my 4R70W in my 75 Torino.I rebuilt it myself pretty easy to do.And I'm using US shift quick 2 it's all I need works great. My transmission is out of a 98 5.0 Explorer 2x4.And I used a 98 explorer mini starter.
I just finished installing a 4R70W into a 66 mustang. I found that my transmission had a larger slip yoke than AOD. I used a spicer 2-3-14061X which fixed the looseness and leaking
I have a 2003 v6 mustang 4r70w in my 70 mustang. First off you have to cut those ears off. Second if the plan to use the stock shifter you have to get a lokar ata 1008 shift arm and a universal th400 shift arm kit with heim joints and your good to go! Third, if you want to use the smaller aod yoke, you have to use a aod tail shift!
I'm getting ready to put one from a 96 F150 in my 69 Mustang. Did you buy an aftermarket CM or did you use the factory one? I'm thinking about trying to use the factory TCM for now to save a few bucks.
Great info. This is one of those videos that will become a reference for anyone doing one of these swaps.
You may even be able to use a core from behind the 4.2 V6 "Essex" from an F150/E150 - they stuck with the Windsor patterns. And there's a bunch more of these in junkyards, most of them 2wd units.
They fit. I have one out of a 1998 E-150 van with a 4.2 motor getting ready to go in. The van dipstick is comically long because it has to reach all the way to the front of the engine to fit out that tiny hood opening. I made a trip around the junk yard and the shortest dipstick seems to be the one out of the 4.6L panther platform cars. I found a crown vic somebody had already removed the intake off. that made it easy to remove the dipstick from the top. Even though the mod motor bell housing pattern is wrong, the transmission dipstick+tube works on the windsor pattern transmissions.
Love your videos. Thanks for what you do. I'm planning this same install on my 70 Mach1. So I'll be following this series closely.
I’m putting a AOD in my 70 Mach 1. Hopefully this year. I’d like to see a video of what you ran into on install.
Glad to see you doing this (again). I used your previous videos on installing the 4R70W in the wagon in prep for my install last month where I put a 4R70W (from a V6 2000 Mustang which has the same small block bellhousing pattern) behind a 408w in my '70. Unfortunately, I did run into interference issues with a couple of the ears on the case, which I discovered after getting the trans installed. One was on the top of the rear passenger side of the main case, which interfered with the tunnel. The other was an ear on the passenger side of the bellhousing that interfered with the headers I'm using. Fortunately, I was able to hack both those off without issue with the trans in the car by removing the rear mount and lowering the trans a couple inches to gain extra access. I ran into no interference at the firewall or with any of the rest of the bellhousing or trans housing. Also, because the 4R70W is 1" longer, I had to space the aftermarket AOD/T5 crossmember I used (American Powertrain part #XFFO-10101) back about 1/2". The crossmember you're using appears to have a bit more adjustment for where the mount sits, so hopefully that shouldn't be an issue for you guys. Looking forward to seeing how this project goes for you guys.
Some helpful i.d. info is the 4R70W transmission that fits the 302/5.0 engine has 2 starter bolt holes, the 4.6/Mod motor trans has 3 starter bolt holes.
96-04 v6 mustangs should have these, I got mine from an 04 so I can confirm the new edges have them.
Thank you this was a very informative video. 👍👍👍
Awesome info. Thank you.
great info, thanks
I believe the 3.8 V6 in the SN95 mustangs have the Windsor bolt patter also, so you can source one from them as well.
When are you doing the install video for this????
Real shop guys
So I believe you got those two transmissions backwards. The aod is the one in front of you. 470 w the one over there for the wires hooked to it
You may be right
I’m in the process of putting in a 2002 4r70w 3.8 trans in my 64 Fairlane controlled by us shift
Us shift 4 was 2000$ cad shipped to Canada
@@Chris-up2ro Wowch! $2k Canadian?!?!!! I'm guessing import taxes added a bunch, but I hope you got more than just the Quick4 for that price. I just ordered in March and it was $1070 USD ($1460-ish CAD) shipped, with tax, including the Quick4, TPS5 kit, valvebody reprogramming kit, a couple Sonnax valve upgrades, and a filter.
@thewyattfletcher rule of thumb for Canadian car enthusiasts: take the $US basicprice and double it... that will be the price in can $ to my door in Canada
@@hydraulics ugghhhhh... That sucks!
Hi Jeff, hope all is well at your home. Do you have a way to convert the Standard Mustang Automatic Floor Shifter to a 4 Speed (Detents and Indicator) for use with a 4R70W? I am installing one behind my 351C in my 73 Vert. Any guidance would be most appreciated! Thank you and God Speed
Any links to an aod install in a 68 stang? Would love to do that with 4r70w guts.
If your buying a 4r70w how can you tell its the correct type that will bolt up to my my 302?
AOD's for V6 cars had fewer clutches in the transmission (and will be less durable behind a high power motor). Since the "70" in 4R70W is supposed to indicate the torque capacity of the transmission (700ft. lbs), maybe the 4R70W behind the V6 isn't built for less power?
Did you get the bugs out of the 69 wagon?
Dang, I want to put one behind my 51 Ford flathead...
I would contact Lintech transmissions in Canada to see if they have an application or a bellhousing to put that behind a flathead.
ill stick to ym c4 this is to much trouble, for something i cant run a high stall converter with!
I got mine out of a v6 mustang
I have a 4R75W that supposedly came out of a 2004 Mustang GT. Will this work for a 1st Gen '65 Stang too?
If it modular engine the bellhausing is not the same as the 302/ 351W small block.
Monster trans makes 3 different stages of AOD- Had mine for 5 years-works perfect and no need for costly comp controller and no wiring rats nest either !!!
Talking transmissions.....I have a 67 stock 289 C code. With a C4. I was changing the main and rod bearings. And noticed my #3 thrust bearing was cutting into the crank. So I went to have it checked and was told the torque converter was swollen causing the crank to push forward causing the crank issue. Ever run into this? Or is this an excuse to pass the buck to the next guy?
why not just use a c6 or fmx transmission?
8.8s beter then a 9 inch? Not a chance
Sorry. These cars are about KIS. Too many wires and electrical gizmos that are not worth it ... for me
In some respects I agree with you on that. But boy I really like driving my car with a 4r70w in it. Honestly I don't even miss not having a bigger gear outback on the wagon.