I really respect all the time and care that these guys go into maintaining the original integrity of the old house. Especially because I recently moved in an old lath and plaster house thats been destroyed by 500 layers of sheetrock:(
Did you catch the edit @2:54? The mix he throws on the hawk isn't thoroughly mixed. You can see a giant chunk of unmixed sand in there but when they cut to the closeup it's all mixed.
I've repaired a lot of plaster. I have an old farmhouse from 1900 with plaster walls - because of the plaster, I have no need for central AC, and you can't hear the person in the next room. In my opinion, plaster is superior to drywall - Don't rip it out! It absorbs sounds much better, and also insulates much better. Another option for repairing plaster (if you don't have access to the back of the wall) is to use Structolite as your basecoat/scratch coat, then top it with either MH Ready Patch, or joint compound that you mix with water, like ProForm Quick-Set. I wouldn't recommend the premixed joint compound, because it will crack/flake off.
@@c.518 They have kits you can buy to test for asbestos - generally speaking houses that date back to 1900 are free of asbestos, but not always! If there is any question in your mind, buy a test kit, they are pretty cheap.
I was a plasterer up uxntil the late 50s when drywall became popular. Actually, the old wood lath with lime mortar worked very well. Something never talked about in these videos is what might have caused the original plaster to fail. And one of those things may well have been that the mortar froze due to cold weather when it was originally done. I dont think the method shown for repairing in this video makes much sense. Why not just remove both the old lath and plaster and replace that area with new dry wall?
Loved this! We need more plastering videos please - considering both our countries are 100% originally plaster buildings I was wondering what the solution was gonna be - the burlap sandwich was GENIUS!
I want these recipes! I love old plaster it never molds. Modern drywall is so flimsy and full of glue and paper, it molds and falls apart just way too easy. I've used the fiberglass designed to strengthen concrete for plaster scratch coats but it's much longer and courser than horse hair.
plaster fascinates me and he is a very strong restoration artist ..... we do something way dif and never have problems yet it is not along these lines of restoration. no cracks tho .... love seeing the old school moves
@@taylorjensen6181 old does not equal historic. There are actual historic things that are worth preserving. And there are old things that are not. When you turn every old thing into a historic thing, the actually historic things lose their value, and there are less resources to direct towards their preservation.
I have a house built in 1939 unbeknowest to me my new roof put on 6 years ago was allowing water to come in for 6 years, finally I developed a crack and then another another was told it was and old house and plaster was pulling away and sagging. One day a 17 in by 20 in spot fell and hit the floor. called a plaster guy who told me water had been going into my plaster ceiling all this time. I got ceiling replace with drywall and fixed 6 year old roof with flashing that was absent. I recently found out that my walls where the wood beams are, that divide my livingroom and dining room make the moist meter go off the chain to the wet bars. How do I dry out the heavily textured walls?
So now what if the plaster that is falling apart is on an exterior wall? On the backside of the lath is brick, and on the third floor, shingles. I've got several holes in the plaster around my house and I'm afraid if I start picking at the plaster I'll just break clean through to outside or into my neighbors house. Since they are connected
So what do you use? What’s the recipe? I need to fix plaster, I have the technique pounded into my head by watching 100 of these how to videos but can’t find products that are available in the USA.
Non-hydraulic lime (lime putty) doesn't set in water-rather, it sets when exposed to carbon dioxide in the air. Adding water to a lime putty mix reduces the chances for it to carbonate.
how is somebody supposed to have access to the inside of their wall like this? If I could work from the backside of my laths, this repair would be a cinch!
True, that's the "key" :) FWIW, TOH also shows how to do plaster restoration with washer headed screws , drywall patches and fiberglass screening... when you do not have access to the other side of the wall....but it's does not use as much natural material, as it was done in this post... ua-cam.com/video/hi5mdg4gH1Ko/v-deo.html
I was quite interested in the process of repair from a practical point of view ... basically I am going to presume there is a sort of preservation/conservation order on the building? If there wasn't then why on earth waste time and money patching here and there? (Excellent TV though it was. I happen to rather like Tom ((and Norm)) from aeons ago when we had their progs on cable. So would even watch him cobbling away on a squeaky floorboard with the same pleasure as him rebuilding an entire house.) As other commentators suggested simply tear all that old rubbish off and replace with plaster board (dry wall). Here in UK building regs (" to code" I believe you folks call it) the authorities want fire resistant board so you have about 30 minutes to get your one legged arthritic granny and her cat out before the place burns down. The Fire and Rescue lads could be on another job so that gives you breathing space. We have so many new builds over here but the number of Fire and Rescue teams remains about the same. And of course they are involved in motorway pileups what with cutting cars apart to get casualties out in one piece (hopefully). However, if you are unfortunate enough to live in a listed property here in England (and it's your own silly fault if you buy one) your main concern is the County Conservation Officer and "English Heritage". The Conservation Officer must be consulted before you even dream of doing any, rpt any alterations to your listed property. If "English Heritage" get involved they can insist, on pain of you being fined and going to jail, (really, I kid you not) that you use exactly the same, not just similar, materials to the original ... and building methods of the day when the property was built. They are a sort of Listed Buildings Stasi force who like to spend your cash on keeping England's Heritage "up to scratch" even if it's not a public building and you're not about to open your doors to the great unwashed. With reference to the repair on the video I have used a slightly different method in that any dry horse hair plaster is thoroughly irrigated with a weak solution of PVA (poly vinyl acetate) say 5:1, using a pump spray bottle so you're not applying even a weak force with a brush to the crumbing plaster. Apply following coats with a less dilute solution. Then simply slosh on a patching plaster mix (do you have "Polyfilla"?) using a dilute solution of PVA as the mixing fluid so the mix is easier to apply and when dry won't dust off. Fill and sand until perfect, then cross line the wall (not just line) with a suitable grade paper, then finish paper. Job done. If you did have access to the back of the plaster surface then irrigate the entire back of the lath and plaster surface with dilute PVA. Then fix jointing scrim to act as an armature sort of thing. I wouldn't have bothered with hessian(burlap) as far too much of a fag to do especially when scrim tape much easier to hold in place then coat with sprayed PVA. Mind you, it did occur to me that if one side of the plastered stud wall had been ripped off then surely that would be plasterboarded and skimmed anyway, so why not do ditto on the other side? I will presume he went through the "methodology" for the program, not necessarily what he would do when on a similar job? Anyway, interesting all the same.
In Charleston, you are required to save and repair as much of the original house material as possible. Several other segments from this renovation discuss the historical requirements set forth by the city.
@@ansleyvalentine2251 Aha, AV, thanks for that. So, proper "conservation" work is required as opposed to "restoration". All is now crystal. Fwiw over here the Conservation Officers, or English Heritage type folks, require an exhaustive inventory of every, and I mean every piece of timber, wether it be a tiny fillet or molding to the main structural timbers and ditto stone, brick, slate, tile, wall coverings etc, etc. If items exist but no longer have a building to return to then sometimes they end up in the Victoria and Albert museum (London). Allegedly they have around six million items, in their vaults and repositories around the country, most of which have never been mounted in a contextual exhibition. If you have time then an online visit is recommended. You have your own museums, such as the Smithsonian, equally well worth a visit. (As you might suppose, Italy, Greece and Egypt, to name a mere three,. put our collections to shame seeing as they have stuff going back a few thousand years more than we do. (Stonehenge is merely a crude collection of rocks cf a pyramid, Egyptian or Central American, say, with apologies to any Ancient Britons or remaining Druids of course.) A view must be taken to decide if an item can be conserved (preserved if you will) or replaced. A friend of mine (archeological background) was obliged to do an inventory of a largish room in medieval building in Ipswich and ended up with a book the size of a telephone directory. And that was one room. Doubtless had the entire TV program been shown we would have understood the conservation aspect.
I understand the saving of the old plaster, but the amount of work to save something that's so inferior and the labor to do so, is not worth it, to me anyways, jmo.
All that work to fix that plaster wall! Take down the whole wall, frame it new, plaster board, you'd be finished before fixing that old wall that in the future will have more cracks.
Get the plasterer on the show as a regular! Total natural in front of the camera and really articulate :)
He's 10x better than any of the "new guys" they've added. Basically a real life plastering version of Ron Swanon
Bob Ross of Plaster!
Good when you have access to the other side.
I was thinking the same. How often can that be an option?
@@IAmKyleBrown Not very often
This guy explains all of this VERY well. Hope to see more of him on the show giving tips like this. Great video.
I really respect all the time and care that these guys go into maintaining the original integrity of the old house. Especially because I recently moved in an old lath and plaster house thats been destroyed by 500 layers of sheetrock:(
Nice to see TOH working on an old home and restoring it as-is rather than a total rip and replace.
That guy’s mustache was talking to Tom’s mustache.
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We need more episodes with that plaster guy
Did you catch the edit @2:54? The mix he throws on the hawk isn't thoroughly mixed. You can see a giant chunk of unmixed sand in there but when they cut to the closeup it's all mixed.
Wait, a TV show edited??!? What is this sorcery!
This guy is like the Bob Ross of plastering
Love to watch real craftsmanship at work!
I've repaired a lot of plaster. I have an old farmhouse from 1900 with plaster walls - because of the plaster, I have no need for central AC, and you can't hear the person in the next room. In my opinion, plaster is superior to drywall - Don't rip it out! It absorbs sounds much better, and also insulates much better.
Another option for repairing plaster (if you don't have access to the back of the wall) is to use Structolite as your basecoat/scratch coat, then top it with either MH Ready Patch, or joint compound that you mix with water, like ProForm Quick-Set. I wouldn't recommend the premixed joint compound, because it will crack/flake off.
How do you know if its asbestos
@@c.518 They have kits you can buy to test for asbestos - generally speaking houses that date back to 1900 are free of asbestos, but not always! If there is any question in your mind, buy a test kit, they are pretty cheap.
I was a plasterer up uxntil the late 50s when drywall became popular.
Actually, the old wood lath with lime mortar worked very well.
Something never talked about in these videos is what might have caused the original plaster to fail.
And one of those things may well have been that the mortar froze due to cold weather when it was originally done.
I dont think the method shown for repairing in this video makes much sense.
Why not just remove both the old lath and plaster and replace that area with new dry wall?
Once again, we admire the efforts in restoring historic and old houses!
Loved this! We need more plastering videos please - considering both our countries are 100% originally plaster buildings
I was wondering what the solution was gonna be - the burlap sandwich was GENIUS!
Lol the animal fur and oyster shells! 😄💕👍
This show truly has the best of the best, real old-world craftsmen! I never get tired of watching TOH.......❤️
I want these recipes! I love old plaster it never molds. Modern drywall is so flimsy and full of glue and paper, it molds and falls apart just way too easy.
I've used the fiberglass designed to strengthen concrete for plaster scratch coats but it's much longer and courser than horse hair.
plaster fascinates me and he is a very strong restoration artist ..... we do something way dif and never have problems yet it is not along these lines of restoration. no cracks tho .... love seeing the old school moves
Get that plaster guy on more often!
A dying trade!!! Shout out my solo finishers!!!
Mike is a true professional great work!
What is the ratio for the sand, lime, and gauging plaster?
also what type of sand? coarse or fine?
One of the dying trades. Almost dead with this man's talent.
Sheet rock is better material
@@camiloardila2399 it's nowhere near as durable, dissolves more readily in water, and is not as good a thermal insulator as plaster.
@@camiloardila2399 Lies. Better for an unskilled installer maybe
Superbbb Video
Appreciate the preservation of an old home and the skill set if this tradesman. Kudos TOH for highlighting this for wanna be preservationists.
I’ve got a ton of respect for plaster guys. But I’ll be darned if that wall didn’t become drywall the second I uncovered the damage.
This kind of attitude is what’s costing us our historic homes and historic features, along with actual craftspeople in the trade. What a shame.
@@taylorjensen6181 old does not equal historic. There are actual historic things that are worth preserving. And there are old things that are not.
When you turn every old thing into a historic thing, the actually historic things lose their value, and there are less resources to direct towards their preservation.
@@taylorjensen6181 perhaps it would be worth keeping if even the slightest breeze didn't cause the walls to crumble
Rich people pay alot more for no drywall😂
More Chill Plaster Dude, please!
This guy isn't repairing plaster, he's restoring it.
I wonder how the booked Nick Offerman
Matthew Corbett there’s like 6 episodes of this show with nick offerman
I have a house built in 1939 unbeknowest to me my new roof put on 6 years ago was allowing water to come in for 6 years, finally I developed a crack and then another another was told it was and old house and plaster was pulling away and sagging. One day a 17 in by 20 in spot fell and hit the floor. called a plaster guy who told me water had been going into my plaster ceiling all this time. I got ceiling replace with drywall and fixed 6 year old roof with flashing that was absent. I recently found out that my walls where the wood beams are, that divide my livingroom and dining room make the moist meter go off the chain to the wet bars. How do I dry out the heavily textured walls?
Love this show ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Anyone else here because they have a old house with plaster walls??
If I want to do this, I need to know what the bonding & emulsifying agent is?
Such a good show!
Brands of the materials used and ratios pleeeeaaase???
YES!Nobody ever talks about that. If they are sincere about old house restoration and DIY then we need more details about materials.
So now what if the plaster that is falling apart is on an exterior wall? On the backside of the lath is brick, and on the third floor, shingles. I've got several holes in the plaster around my house and I'm afraid if I start picking at the plaster I'll just break clean through to outside or into my neighbors house. Since they are connected
Wow I should have seen this episode a couple years ago
Can you suggest a product that can find studs in a lathe and plaster wall?
So what do you use? What’s the recipe? I need to fix plaster, I have the technique pounded into my head by watching 100 of these how to videos but can’t find products that are available in the USA.
Exactly! It's the reason I'm searching for details on YT. He's using lime, but good luck finding it in the US. Did you find a solution?
Non-hydraulic lime (lime putty) doesn't set in water-rather, it sets when exposed to carbon dioxide in the air. Adding water to a lime putty mix reduces the chances for it to carbonate.
how is somebody supposed to have access to the inside of their wall like this? If I could work from the backside of my laths, this repair would be a cinch!
So convenient that they have the wall open on the other side.
True, that's the "key" :)
FWIW, TOH also shows how to do plaster restoration with washer headed screws , drywall patches and fiberglass screening... when you do not have access to the other side of the wall....but it's does not use as much natural material, as it was done in this post... ua-cam.com/video/hi5mdg4gH1Ko/v-deo.html
How does one know if its asbestos
What company is doing the plaster?...I have a job for that company to restore my historic 108 year old house!
Watched it twice
My question is - why you would want to save that old plaster?
Character
People with mustaches fascinate me.
I would just put drywall mud on the front.
He's like Bob Ross but for plaster
The shells were in the lime & here in Oz we used horse hair
Why am I watching this?! I have drywall!
I was quite interested in the process of repair from a practical point of view ... basically I am going to presume there is a sort of preservation/conservation order on the building?
If there wasn't then why on earth waste time and money patching here and there?
(Excellent TV though it was. I happen to rather like Tom ((and Norm)) from aeons ago when we had their progs on cable. So would even watch him cobbling away on a squeaky floorboard with the same pleasure as him rebuilding an entire house.)
As other commentators suggested simply tear all that old rubbish off and replace with plaster board (dry wall).
Here in UK building regs (" to code" I believe you folks call it) the authorities want fire resistant board so you have about 30 minutes to get your one legged arthritic granny and her cat out before the place burns down.
The Fire and Rescue lads could be on another job so that gives you breathing space. We have so many new builds over here but the number of Fire and Rescue teams remains about the same.
And of course they are involved in motorway pileups what with cutting cars apart to get casualties out in one piece (hopefully).
However, if you are unfortunate enough to live in a listed property here in England (and it's your own silly fault if you buy one) your main concern is the County Conservation Officer and "English Heritage".
The Conservation Officer must be consulted before you even dream of doing any, rpt any alterations to your listed property.
If "English Heritage" get involved they can insist, on pain of you being fined and going to jail, (really, I kid you not) that you use exactly the same, not just similar, materials to the original ... and building methods of the day when the property was built. They are a sort of Listed Buildings Stasi force who like to spend your cash on keeping England's Heritage
"up to scratch" even if it's not a public building and you're not about to open your doors to the great unwashed.
With reference to the repair on the video I have used a slightly different method in that any dry horse hair plaster is thoroughly irrigated with a weak solution of PVA (poly vinyl acetate) say 5:1, using a pump spray bottle so you're not applying even a weak force with a brush to the crumbing plaster. Apply following coats with a less dilute solution. Then simply slosh on a patching plaster mix (do you have "Polyfilla"?) using a dilute solution of PVA as the mixing fluid so the mix is easier to apply and when dry won't dust off.
Fill and sand until perfect, then cross line the wall (not just line) with a suitable grade paper, then finish paper. Job done.
If you did have access to the back of the plaster surface then irrigate the entire back of the lath and plaster surface with dilute PVA. Then fix jointing scrim to act as an armature sort of thing. I wouldn't have bothered with hessian(burlap) as far too much of a fag to do especially when scrim tape much easier to hold in place then coat with sprayed PVA.
Mind you, it did occur to me that if one side of the plastered stud wall had been ripped off then surely that would be plasterboarded and skimmed anyway, so why not do ditto on the other side?
I will presume he went through the "methodology" for the program, not necessarily what he would do when on a similar job?
Anyway, interesting all the same.
In Charleston, you are required to save and repair as much of the original house material as possible. Several other segments from this renovation discuss the historical requirements set forth by the city.
@@ansleyvalentine2251 Aha, AV, thanks for that. So, proper "conservation" work is required as opposed to "restoration".
All is now crystal. Fwiw over here the Conservation Officers, or English Heritage type folks, require an exhaustive inventory of every, and I mean every piece of timber, wether it be a tiny fillet or molding to the main structural timbers and ditto stone, brick, slate, tile, wall coverings etc, etc.
If items exist but no longer have a building to return to then sometimes they end up in the Victoria and Albert museum (London). Allegedly they have around six million items, in their vaults and repositories around the country, most of which have never been mounted in a contextual exhibition.
If you have time then an online visit is recommended. You have your own museums, such as the Smithsonian, equally well worth a visit.
(As you might suppose, Italy, Greece and Egypt, to name a mere three,. put our collections to shame seeing as they have stuff going back a few thousand years more than we do.
(Stonehenge is merely a crude collection of rocks cf a pyramid, Egyptian or Central American, say, with apologies to any Ancient Britons or remaining Druids of course.)
A view must be taken to decide if an item can be conserved (preserved if you will) or replaced.
A friend of mine (archeological background) was obliged to do an inventory of a largish room in medieval building in Ipswich and ended up with a book the size of a telephone directory. And that was one room.
Doubtless had the entire TV program been shown we would have understood the conservation aspect.
What happens when you can’t access the other side of the wall. This is not a common situation
How come you never hear of a plaster trade? I'd go to school to learn that.
American College of the Building Arts.
Most plasterers do stucco exterior now
Bob Ross?
Could have just used structolite
Here's how...hold on, wait for it. Don't.
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Simple answer is you don't.
I understand the saving of the old plaster, but the amount of work to save something that's so inferior and the labor to do so, is not worth it, to me anyways, jmo.
Right, just goop it with some plaster repair from homedepot. ~10$
Seriously??? Inferior??? Clearly you know little about plaster.
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All that work to fix that plaster wall!
Take down the whole wall, frame it new, plaster board, you'd be finished before fixing that old wall that in the future will have more cracks.
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