@@johnking5174 oh yes mate. Earlier years I remember used to come from school to my grandparents house have fish and chips then 7pm watch either Bob Monkhouse on Family Fortunes or Play Your Cards Right
@@johnking5174 oh absolutely to get the weekend up and running. Danny Baker, Fred Housegoe, Janet Street Porter, Emma Freud and Paula Yates great memories
@rtcp2020 Exactly, a point lost on many people. If all the existing franchises had won, nothing would be substantially different today. Just maybe a slightly different order of acquisitions and possibly Central or Thames ending up as the largest company rather than Granada. Some things could even have been worse - if TSW had won on their ridiculously high bid they would have quickly ended up merging with HTV and HTV West & TSW could have ended up on a merged schedule. If TVS had won it was at risk of going bust, and if Thames had won there never would have been a proper 7 day news service in London. The most significant Thames programmes were still made anyway. Only franchise change that made no odds was TVAM losing to GMTV as the eventual service was pretty much exactly the same (except GMTV had regional news which TVAM did not). The system used was manifestly unfair, but now that the dust has settled it probably didn't matter in the long term who won or lost anything.
@@chriswathen9612 It's true that the Broadcasting Act had sentenced regional ITV to death. However Carlton winning the franchise was a bad thing for the quality of programming. Apart from Old Bear Stories there was very little well regarded TV from Carlton.
Looks like LWT News was using the old Studio 10 at LWT Studios. Located on the tenth floor of London Studios, it had a great view of London, but not as big as Studio 7 view which would be used by London Tonight from 1993. Studio 10 was converted into offices in the mid 2000s.
I have never lived in the London region, and a couple of things strike me about this clip... 1 - That Thames were striking their own distinct image, whilst LWT were happy to declare that they were part of the ITV network. Franchise loser and winner perspectives at play there, I feel. 2 - For 1992, that was quite an impressive false backdrop in the LWT news studio.
In a few days time on the 31 December into 1 January it will be 30 years ago since all the changes in ITV's set up when the then new franchises took hold. As others have said before, it has not really been the same since, which although a deep shame is what really occured then from that time onwards-alas of course. Thank you!
Home And Away was bought to replace Crossroads in the Teatime soap slot ITV through Central felt it was cheaper to buy a ready made soap from Australia as Crossroads by 1988 was getting too expensive at £100.000 per episode to make and it wasn't getting the ratings and ITV were losing viewers to BBC1 at Teatime thanks to Neighbours and therefore staying with BBC1 for the whole evening after Neighbours
Darren Hayward In the early, pre-Central years, when it was made by ATV, hardly any filming of Crossroads was done on location - only when they filmed scenes in people’s gardens, real houses - even a real swimming pool was used extensively, that probably caused the budget to shoot up!
so did they abandon 6 o'clock live and then put home and away in its place as a tempory measure until London tonight was introduced in 93? seems very strange having the main news at 5;15 and some crap aussie soap at 6 when it should be the other way around and you know what I don't even remember it being like this!
Daniel Woodhouse Yes they did, it was all to make sure they have every thing ready for London Tonight which would begin on 1st January 1993. Remember London Tonight would be using the studios at LWT so they had to have time to get the studios fixed and set up in time for rehearsals and the launch of London Tonight.
@@MarkPentler Yes it was because the video heads of a domestic VHS recorder would struggle to keep up with the sudden change in source. Also used to happen in the mornings switching to and from TV-am.
0:30 - The moment when everyone in our house screamed for joy, as the weekend was here!! No more work or school, and LWT to entertain us all the way!
Exactly couldn't wait for the handover every Friday
@@rajnirvan3336 We loved 5.15 - Friday nights meant fish and chips, ice cream, and London Weekend Televison. Were you the same?
@@johnking5174 oh yes mate. Earlier years I remember used to come from school to my grandparents house have fish and chips then 7pm watch either Bob Monkhouse on Family Fortunes or Play Your Cards Right
@@rajnirvan3336 Do you remember the Six O'Clock Show with Michael Aspel?
@@johnking5174 oh absolutely to get the weekend up and running. Danny Baker, Fred Housegoe, Janet Street Porter, Emma Freud and Paula Yates great memories
Pure rivalry between Thames and LWT. Change when Carlton took over.
But Carlton wasn't a patch on Thames.
@@robertcomer2767 Absolutely. Even an employee of Thames said when they lost their franchise saying Carlton will never match their expectations
Even if Thames won the 1991 franchise auctions, ITV would be the same as it is today.
@rtcp2020 Exactly, a point lost on many people. If all the existing franchises had won, nothing would be substantially different today. Just maybe a slightly different order of acquisitions and possibly Central or Thames ending up as the largest company rather than Granada. Some things could even have been worse - if TSW had won on their ridiculously high bid they would have quickly ended up merging with HTV and HTV West & TSW could have ended up on a merged schedule. If TVS had won it was at risk of going bust, and if Thames had won there never would have been a proper 7 day news service in London. The most significant Thames programmes were still made anyway. Only franchise change that made no odds was TVAM losing to GMTV as the eventual service was pretty much exactly the same (except GMTV had regional news which TVAM did not). The system used was manifestly unfair, but now that the dust has settled it probably didn't matter in the long term who won or lost anything.
@@chriswathen9612 It's true that the Broadcasting Act had sentenced regional ITV to death. However Carlton winning the franchise was a bad thing for the quality of programming. Apart from Old Bear Stories there was very little well regarded TV from Carlton.
Your announcers are From Thames Television is Philip Elsmore
And for LWT Peter Lewis
Both known for their In-Vision continuity.
TX - Friday 11th September 1992.
Looks like LWT News was using the old Studio 10 at LWT Studios. Located on the tenth floor of London Studios, it had a great view of London, but not as big as Studio 7 view which would be used by London Tonight from 1993. Studio 10 was converted into offices in the mid 2000s.
I really miss the Thames -LWT handover it meant no school in the morning.
I have never lived in the London region, and a couple of things strike me about this clip...
1 - That Thames were striking their own distinct image, whilst LWT were happy to declare that they were part of the ITV network. Franchise loser and winner perspectives at play there, I feel.
2 - For 1992, that was quite an impressive false backdrop in the LWT news studio.
Love it!📺
In a few days time on the 31 December into 1 January it will be 30 years ago since all the changes in ITV's set up when the then new franchises took hold. As others have said before, it has not really been the same since, which although a deep shame is what really occured then from that time onwards-alas of course. Thank you!
This is actually nine years before - by which I mean Friday 11th September 1992.
Nine years before what?
@@Connie_TinuityError i think nine years before 9/11 but don't quote me on that one
What happens nine years after thi-oh oh right 9/11 in 2001
By chance, have just watched this today Sunday, 11th September 2022 at 5:10pm. Almost 30 years to the precise time when this originally aired!!!
It was Thames weekend news before that though.
Home And Away was bought to replace Crossroads in the Teatime soap slot ITV through Central felt it was cheaper to buy a ready made soap from Australia as Crossroads by 1988 was getting too expensive at £100.000 per episode to make and it wasn't getting the ratings and ITV were losing viewers to BBC1 at Teatime thanks to Neighbours and therefore staying with BBC1 for the whole evening after Neighbours
Darren Hayward In the early, pre-Central years, when it was made by ATV, hardly any filming of Crossroads was done on location - only when they filmed scenes in people’s gardens, real houses - even a real swimming pool was used extensively, that probably caused the budget to shoot up!
And the wonky scenery was being spotted more and more too.
Want them flavours of Wotsits back lol
London weekend television tower and studio now it ITV it closed in 2018 few of the show have moved to the new home at television centre
What happened with Thames Television in 1992
they lost the London Weekday franchise to Carlton as a result of the ITC’s bid process in 1991.
@@JeSuisRene Apparently Carlton passed the quality threshold! God only knows what lies were in that application because it never happened on screen!
@@rtc9063Agreed it was crap Thames television was far superior.
so did they abandon 6 o'clock live and then put home and away in its place as a tempory measure until London tonight was introduced in 93?
seems very strange having the main news at 5;15 and some crap aussie soap at 6 when it should be the other way around
and you know what I don't even remember it being like this!
Daniel Woodhouse Yes they did, it was all to make sure they have every thing ready for London Tonight which would begin on 1st January 1993. Remember London Tonight would be using the studios at LWT so they had to have time to get the studios fixed and set up in time for rehearsals and the launch of London Tonight.
When Home & Away first came on, it was broadcast at 6.35.
1992 and still an ugly unsynced cut between the two
Mark Pentler ii
Mark Pentler Thank goodness it ended when Carlton took over.
Worth noting that the cut was always less visible on air. VHS recordings always make it look messier.
@@MatgoStyles yes, you’re absolutely right, I always forget about the lack of frame sync in recorders etc. The heads somehow made it worse, I think?
@@MarkPentler Yes it was because the video heads of a domestic VHS recorder would struggle to keep up with the sudden change in source. Also used to happen in the mornings switching to and from TV-am.