The late great Carol Barnes. She went before her time. The same could be said of Thames, TVS and TSW, all of whom provided an excellent service to their regions. Thames and, to a lesser extent, TVS also made a superb contribution to the national network. Carlton swept away everything that was so good about its predecessor and replaced it with cheap mediocrity.
Was a shocking 14 months for itv. Losing Thames especially and the other companies and then losing top flight football rights to sky in May 92 crippled them even more. Itv felt like a premium channel up to 92 but the difference from 93 was there to see.
Yeah, John Howard Davies from the BBC pretending to be freelance infiltrated Thames, made deliberately bad shows then fired Benny Hill who was bringing in millions in export profits so no wonder they lost the franchise then Davies went back to the can't compete so they cheat BBC.
To be honest Alan Sugar should not have part of the FA decision considering the conflict of interest he had with Sky and seeing how he had insider information and informed the ITV bid to Sky Sports and then heard telling them “to blow them out of the water”.
@@rajnirvan3336 - Carlton sucked!!! Many people have retrospectively said that the ITC were just paying Thames back for the controversy caused by the 'Death On The Rock' documentary a few years earlier
RIP Carol Barnes - she hosted the 540 a lot between 1989 and 1991... Less than six months later the 540 would be dropped in favour of the new-look ITN Early Evening News with John Suchet... Lots of change on ITV at the time as evidenced by the report about four of ITV's lead broadcasting companies losing their licences... Thames was the best of the lot. As said in the report, Carlton were not expected to be worthy successors to Thames, and frankly to say that they were a pale shadow of Thames Iran understatement... TV-AM were initially remembered as a failure but was doing very well by 1991 so their franchise loss was a major shock at the time too...
@@richardmulcahy9919 - I remember her as relief presenter on Early Evening News from 1992 to 1995... Nicholas Owen and Dermot Murnaghan also occasionally hosted when John Suchet was unavailable if I remember rightly
@@DaveAndBeth1978 Actually the Late Carol Barnes was co presenting News at Ten a lot between 1987 and 1989 then she hosted channel 4 Daily between 1989 and 1991 and then she hosted the 540 a lot in 1991
As others have said here too of course, may I say I agree with all the other comments here so then too. The ITV franchise round of 1991 really and truly made the network a lot worse for sure, which was a deep shame so too. Thank you of course!
Graham Pearson stories state that a lot ITV regions including the Weekday Capital sector franchise standardised on showing their clock idents into suppertime National News programmes.
But first we go over to the studios of ITN for the early evening news it's five forty I recognise that voice I know it's the late great Carol Barnes. ❤
This was the BIGGEST MISTAKE in the history of ITV, Thames losing to Carlton, TVAM to Sunrise/GMTV now using the name of TVAMs show Good Morning Britain, TVS lost out to Meridian who mostly used indeependant companies to make its shows where TVS made their own and others for the ITV network and then TSW losing out to Westcountry. Granada and Carlton buy up the new and existing companies and then the two companies merge to form ITV PLC, so in the south of England has gone from a region that made programs for the people of the region to a broardcaster who no longer has a TV Studio complex now Northam has been sold and redeveloped to just regional news made in the region, I beleive only two of the original studio complexes are left Anglias complex in Norwich and Yorkshires in Leeds, Granada left Quay St to move to Media City in Salford. ITV now gets a big fat ZERO from me now
You can see the continuity announcer (forget his name) somewhat saddened by the news regarding his employer despite trying to look upbeat and professional on camera!
I remember the days when television stations (BBC and ITV) relied on clocks for announcements into the World News. Ian Stirling, the Scottish born TSW announcer, links into the ITV Evening News using the clock and Carol Barnes presents the bulletin. I'm sorry to say neither Ian nor Carol are with us now.
For the last couple of months of TV-AM broadcasts, Sky took over the running of their news bulletins as their in house news service no longer existed after this date.
Mike Morris was not best pleased when he heard that TVAM would not be having its franchise renewed. TVAM subsequently lost its in-house news service and standardised on bulletins contracted out from Sky as a cost cutting exercise but Lisa Aziz and selected reporting staff would be kept on.
Looking back did any of those pompous managing directors realise the threat they were facing from satellite television. Granted when Sky launched it was crap but they were all very aggrogant thinking they were untouchable. I wonder now if they advertised those 16 franchises again, would anyone want them?
@Robert Comer ITV isn't split into franchised areas any more, so this scenario would not present itself, however, in my opinion, there would still be a demand to run an ITV franchise if the opportunity came up, but the regional programming opportunities of the 70's and 80's are long gone. The sad thing about this whole debacle was that the ITC abolished all the annual franchise payments after a few years, making a mockery of the whole process. Today, all of the regional companies gave been bought out by Granada/Carlton and ITV is a shadow if it's former self, obsessed with celebrity this and that in a desperate attempt to increase its advertising revenue. Such a shame.
All the good programme from Thames television has lost the licence such as the bill minder this week also men behaving badly and this is your life gone to BBC
The Thames decision was no real shock: Thatcher swore to bankrupt them after the Documentary they made a few years before, called Death on the Rock - when an SAS team killed four IRA Terrorists who were about to bomb a marching band on Gibraltar. The decision was nothing but pure, political malice. Thames still sort of exists, but many mergers and acquisitions have taken place, leaving ITV a complete and utter shambles these days. The massive premiums they had to pay to the Tory Party for their licenses, financially knee-capped them just at the time there was increasing competition coming from America and Satellite. Pity really: Britain's Commercial TV stations were probably the highest quality service in the world. Today...hell...as bad as the USA and equally lame. But that's the Tories for you: if something is working and people like it - they will put a stop to that!
The late great Carol Barnes. She went before her time. The same could be said of Thames, TVS and TSW, all of whom provided an excellent service to their regions. Thames and, to a lesser extent, TVS also made a superb contribution to the national network. Carlton swept away everything that was so good about its predecessor and replaced it with cheap mediocrity.
Was a shocking 14 months for itv. Losing Thames especially and the other companies and then losing top flight football rights to sky in May 92 crippled them even more. Itv felt like a premium channel up to 92 but the difference from 93 was there to see.
Yeah, John Howard Davies from the BBC pretending to be freelance infiltrated Thames, made deliberately bad shows then fired Benny Hill who was bringing in millions in export profits so no wonder they lost the franchise then Davies went back to the can't compete so they cheat BBC.
To be honest Alan Sugar should not have part of the FA decision considering the conflict of interest he had with Sky and seeing how he had insider information and informed the ITV bid to Sky Sports and then heard telling them “to blow them out of the water”.
Thanks Margaret thatcher. Some brilliant companies lost due to government meddling. 👏 loved TVAM and TSW!
Fun fact: Carlton television also bid for the south and south east franchise
I grew up watching the Late Carol Barnes doing news in my Childhood live
I miss Thames.
Me too Carlton were shit
@@rajnirvan3336 - Carlton sucked!!! Many people have retrospectively said that the ITC were just paying Thames back for the controversy caused by the 'Death On The Rock' documentary a few years earlier
I recognise that voice i know it's the late great Carol Barnes. Rest in peace dear Carol ❤️
Sad day in tv history. 3:36 agreed Carlton was not a patch on Thames
100% agree.
Carlton were / are a shambles!!!!
@@DaveAndBeth1978 absolutely pants abolished identities of Central, Westcountry and HTV too
“ITC said It didnt believe it would sustain its program output.” The ITC is the worst, they take out ThamesTV and TVS
i love TSW television 📺
RIP Carol Barnes - she hosted the 540 a lot between 1989 and 1991... Less than six months later the 540 would be dropped in favour of the new-look ITN Early Evening News with John Suchet... Lots of change on ITV at the time as evidenced by the report about four of ITV's lead broadcasting companies losing their licences... Thames was the best of the lot. As said in the report, Carlton were not expected to be worthy successors to Thames, and frankly to say that they were a pale shadow of Thames Iran understatement... TV-AM were initially remembered as a failure but was doing very well by 1991 so their franchise loss was a major shock at the time too...
She did news at 540 in 1991 she also did Early Evening News between 1992 and 1995 when John Suchet was Absent
@@richardmulcahy9919 - I remember her as relief presenter on Early Evening News from 1992 to 1995... Nicholas Owen and Dermot Murnaghan also occasionally hosted when John Suchet was unavailable if I remember rightly
@@DaveAndBeth1978 Actually the Late Carol Barnes was co presenting News at Ten a lot between 1987 and 1989 then she hosted channel 4 Daily between 1989 and 1991 and then she hosted the 540 a lot in 1991
I do remember the Late Carol Barnes doing News at 540 in 1991
From me and the five forty team bye for now have a nice evening Thankyou Carol we will.
RIP Carol Barnes 1944-2008
Carol Barnes RIP
I recognise that voice it's the late great Carol Barnes.
I recognise that voice I Know it's the late great Carol Barnes.😊
1991 Late Carol Barnes did News at 540
While TVS and TSW both lasted the shortest in their respective regions, they are probably the best known franchises.
I recognise that voice I know it's the late great Carol Barnes.
As others have said here too of course, may I say I agree with all the other comments here so then too. The ITV franchise round of 1991 really and truly made the network a lot worse for sure, which was a deep shame so too. Thank you of course!
Graham Pearson stories state that a lot ITV regions including the Weekday Capital sector franchise standardised on showing their clock idents into suppertime National News programmes.
But first we go over to the studios of ITN for the early evening news it's five forty I recognise that voice I know it's the late great Carol Barnes. ❤
I recognise that voice i know it's the late great Carol Barnes.
Carol Barnes RIP 😢
And yet Thames & TV-am got their maths spot on because both Carlton & GM-TV couldn't keep up their bids. And then on 1 January 1993, ITV went crap.
um, no
This was the BIGGEST MISTAKE in the history of ITV, Thames losing to Carlton, TVAM to Sunrise/GMTV now using the name of TVAMs show Good Morning Britain, TVS lost out to Meridian who mostly used indeependant companies to make its shows where TVS made their own and others for the ITV network and then TSW losing out to Westcountry.
Granada and Carlton buy up the new and existing companies and then the two companies merge to form ITV PLC, so in the south of England has gone from a region that made programs for the people of the region to a broardcaster who no longer has a TV Studio complex now Northam has been sold and redeveloped to just regional news made in the region, I beleive only two of the original studio complexes are left Anglias complex in Norwich and Yorkshires in Leeds, Granada left Quay St to move to Media City in Salford.
ITV now gets a big fat ZERO from me now
You can see the continuity announcer (forget his name) somewhat saddened by the news regarding his employer despite trying to look upbeat and professional on camera!
Continuity announcer is Ian Stirling, sadly passed away a few years back.
I remember the days when television stations (BBC and ITV) relied on clocks for announcements into the World News. Ian Stirling, the Scottish born TSW announcer, links into the ITV Evening News using the clock and Carol Barnes presents the bulletin. I'm sorry to say neither Ian nor Carol are with us now.
For the last couple of months of TV-AM broadcasts, Sky took over the running of their news bulletins as their in house news service no longer existed after this date.
Central got their franchise back for only £2k.
Central, Border and Grampian had no opposition to compete against them so, therefore had their franchises renewed.
But first we go over to the studios of ITN for the early evening news it's five forty.
Mike Morris was not best pleased when he heard that TVAM would not be having its franchise renewed. TVAM subsequently lost its in-house news service and standardised on bulletins contracted out from Sky as a cost cutting exercise but Lisa Aziz and selected reporting staff would be kept on.
16 October 1991, they didn't realize it but they fricked up Big Time.
Subjectively, all four broadcasters were succeeded by worse companies.
Thames was the best but look at TV now it's rubbish
100% agree with you. Like that lady said Carlton would never fill their expectations
Yes it is too there then of course alas-you are so right too!
LWT central Yorkshire television and Granada television has saved
Looking back did any of those pompous managing directors realise the threat they were facing from satellite television. Granted when Sky launched it was crap but they were all very aggrogant thinking they were untouchable. I wonder now if they advertised those 16 franchises again, would anyone want them?
@Robert Comer ITV isn't split into franchised areas any more, so this scenario would not present itself, however, in my opinion, there would still be a demand to run an ITV franchise if the opportunity came up, but the regional programming opportunities of the 70's and 80's are long gone. The sad thing about this whole debacle was that the ITC abolished all the annual franchise payments after a few years, making a mockery of the whole process. Today, all of the regional companies gave been bought out by Granada/Carlton and ITV is a shadow if it's former self, obsessed with celebrity this and that in a desperate attempt to increase its advertising revenue. Such a shame.
@@Rassilon72 if you read what I’d written I said “if it was still spilt into franchise regions”. We all know it ended in 2002
All the good programme from Thames television has lost the licence such as the bill minder this week also men behaving badly and this is your life gone to BBC
The Thames decision was no real shock: Thatcher swore to bankrupt them after the Documentary they made a few years before, called Death on the Rock - when an SAS team killed four IRA Terrorists who were about to bomb a marching band on Gibraltar. The decision was nothing but pure, political malice.
Thames still sort of exists, but many mergers and acquisitions have taken place, leaving ITV a complete and utter shambles these days. The massive premiums they had to pay to the Tory Party for their licenses, financially knee-capped them just at the time there was increasing competition coming from America and Satellite.
Pity really: Britain's Commercial TV stations were probably the highest quality service in the world.
Today...hell...as bad as the USA and equally lame.
But that's the Tories for you: if something is working and people like it - they will put a stop to that!
Granada and Coronation Street were safe? Shame. What I mean by that is Coronation Street has been on for far too long.
Wind up surely, TV Station stuff with more exposure than Major/Mandela? 🤣🤣
h f the brave if the name is n oops