1970 International Metro Van
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- Опубліковано 23 жов 2022
- With its right-hand driving position, this stubby 1970 IHC Metro van probably delivered newspapers or milk. Today it delivers memories of how International Harvester redesigned the Metro van for more functionality.
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We had 2 of these back in the 70's that were used to transport our sound system for our Rock n Roll Band..never let us down. They were very dependable .
funny, mine is my tour bus... its on my channel...
A buddy of my Pop had a mid-fiftties first generation Metro. He was a welder and traveled around with all his welding equipment in the van. When the van wasn't road worthy anymore he parked it at his house and used it as his shop.
That cage behind the driver was for protection from flying cargo in case of an accident.
You are a VERY knowledgeable about what you’re talking about, I’m very impressed. Thank you.
You always Deliver Steve!! 🤣 Thanks!! ✌️ from Iowa
That's knee-slapper😅
Hell yeah, you rock Steve. Thanks from Melbourne Australia. Keep 'em coming my brother.
Bad puns are how eye roll
On time!
I used to have a 62 Metro, but it was a different body than either of those. It was the smaller one, and had a 4 cylinder engine that was literally a half a V8. In fact, the distributor cap had four blocked off terminals. My wife and I used it as an ice cream truck for several years, and it was incredibly reliable for an old van. Pretty slow, but then that was perfect for what we used it for. Wish I still had it.
Yes, the van in the vid is either a 4 th gen or another model of the 3rd gen. I've seen models that have the high turn signals like the one in the vid but a opening hood that stops short of the " grille " The model immediately after the one on the left does not have an opening hood though there is a small door for the radiator cap access.
I had a paper route for years when I was in my teens.It was always me and the milk man @ 5:30 making our delivery. He drove one of these internationals.
Those trucks were everywhere---the "sharpener" man (with the dinging bell), the milkman, the paper route driver, the package man, the mail man (I want to say USPS had them for a time), the service person (appliance, electrician, plumber, carpenter, etc.). It was someone's father, uncle, grandfather, neighbor, or local businessman.
International,function without flair,so homely it's beautiful.nice to see the Australian version
Back in 1970 minimum wage was $1.45 in Illinois. I remember when they bumped it to $1.55 in 1973 when I was working for KFC when I was in high school. As I remember the postal service was a big user of those second gen Metro vans for package delivery back before they came out with the postal Jeeps.
Now people make 25 bucks an hour at McDonald's
It was $2.50 a hour in 1977 when I started working
Wow, the wide selection of different vehicle and years, this place must be huge!!
Hubby and I , see it as a rolling workshop ! Keep them coming !
Our milk man from steiber dairy drove a divco and later an IH. When I heard him pull up and hear him close the lid on the little aluminum insulated box on our porch that he left the milk in...I knew it was time to get my butt outta bed and get ready for school. Seems like yesterday, but it sure as hell wasn't. I remember as a kid questioning the safety of standing up and driving, though....
I remember our milk man in the early/mid 70’s still drove a Studebaker
I'd like to clarify that Raymond Loewy ran a design studio that employed lots of graphic artists and designers. Virgil Exner worked for him for a while. Loewy took credit for all designs that came from his studio, regardless of the talent that actually did the work.
Thank you Steve Get well soon
Ha! ha! ha!. I saw these in the background of your last video. I was thinking/hoping we would see this soon.
My first car was a 1971 just like this one. I traded it for a 66 jeep wagoneer. I have ben looking another one since 1985, about 6 months after i traded mine. They will reach a speed of 65 mph, at least mine did. When got mine, it had a busted exhaust manifold, and my dad found one on a gremlin that fit perfect. I think mine was a 1/4 ton. It was an old mail truck. Right hand drive. I was in high school and it certainly turned heads when I hit the strip on Saturday night. It was mostly in a coat of primer when I got it. My worked on timberjack log skidders, and he managed to get me a gallon of bright orange timber jack paint, and I added a set of small rubber housed flood lights on a bar on the top, with a red tear drop beacon in the middle. I miss that old battle wagon.
In the late '60's I rode with a guy who had a Generation 1- big blue dinosaur, but a great work truck
Very interesting video and history of those international metro vans! Who knew the lighter the van the more you could load! I sure didn’t know!
Cool vans to own now, back then, just another vehicle on the road!
6 banger and 6 popper! yep, that's what we called 'em back then. Funny that no one ever said V-8 popper!😁
Enjoyed your Ghostbusters cameo with Hoovie at the auction Friday night.👻
I always smile when I hear such words from you American guys 🙂I'm from Europe. Our basic engine has always been a four-cylinder 1.3-2.0L, 60-90 hp. Six-cylinder engines were used in luxury cars like Mercedes. I have family in Chicago, been for a couple of years. I often heard that gurgling of an old Chevrolet or Lincoln - something wonderful. Not like our little lawn mower motors...
International really made some good work rigs,,great video, your library backs up the information
This would be one of the last ones where the body was supplied/built by an internal division of IHC as by 1972, they were stripped chassis and others built the body (as the other makers often did). No, I would say the Chevrolet/GM "P Series" rivaled this in visibility and layout at the time.
Divco was started in 1926 when George Bacon of Detroit Electric Vehicle Company brought the idea of using a gasoline powered engine to his boss who refused, so he started his own company. Divco merged with Wayne in 1957 (of Wayne school bus fame) and Divco continued under Wayne until about 1968 when it was spun off. By 1969, Divco had moved to OH and the name continued until 1986.
Based on the "Colt 45" sticker on the windshield, I'm going to say this probably got parked in the 1980s or so. Dyna Corporation was also (at one time) located in CT and bought Metro Body company, closing them in 1968. If I was a betting man, I would say that the ignition switch is a Pollak switch. They were located in Canton, MA and were bought by Standard Motor Products in 2019. Pollak was a supplier of switches to Standard as was their competitor Cole-Hersee, who is located in Boston, MA and owned by Littelfuse (spelling is correct actually).
Correct, GVWR is the total the vehicle can weigh with people, cargo, and fuel/fluids. If you roll it on a scale fully loaded and it exceeds either the GVWR or the GAWR (Gross Axle Weight Rating) of any axle, the vehicle is considered overloaded. So, yes, you want to keep the total weight less so that payload capacity is higher. That is why on a lot of load (and people) carrying trucks and other vehicles, aluminum is sometimes used.
No, as someone else pointed out, those racks (often called "headache" racks") are there to protect shifting cargo from hitting the driver or passenger (in the case of a passenger seat). Today you have companies like Adrian Steel, Back Rack ("Panic Rack") and others that make van bulkheads for this reason.
I technically still own a P30, it's 75 miles away at a buddy's place and I just bought it from the across the road neighbor when they moved, to use for storage. They look like they could be brothers with the IH van, except this one has a "Buick" grille. They lasted longer, GM built them more or less the same into the mid-1990s, then it looks like maybe sold or outsourced them and they got a more aero nose on the same body shell.
Anyhow I agree, similar level of visibility in the P30, they both have that carved from a clay brick sort of design with big flat windshields.
@@CR7659 The Step Van continued until 1999 when GM sold the Union City, Indiana plant. Workhorse eventually got involved at that point.
We had a 2004 Workhorse at my work that was a hand me down from the shipping dept to maintenace. Everybody called it a "Chevy step van" but was a Workhorse chassis with GM produced 6.0 LS and a 4L80E. Drove decent, had 190K on it when I remember using it about 8 years ago. Had a "garage" rear door and an Anthony liftgate. The fiberglass roof panels helped see our tools and supplies on sunny days. Now we have E Series van chassis with Unicell bodies, which is located minutes away from me in Buffalo. Long before I worked here, they had Chevrolet P30s with 292s and GMC Value Vans.
@@WildBill236 Yes, they were all common sights back in their day.
I explain this all in my video, yes they ran out of left over 68 b truck parts in 72 and a half, in 68 the metro plant went on strike, so they shut it down and slapped together what they had left, already planning on 75 being the last year anyway. only not telling the employees and screwing everybody. in 75 they offered even at the engine plant, said cant do bonuses or any expected benefit increases, but they can have a new 76 scout, zero down, and zero interest, as long as they remained employees, then for newyears, they laid off half the people, and half of them where stuck with payments, with interest, on the most expensive truck you can buy..... rumor has it deal was made under the table by ceo with moar, they end small and medium duty trucks, and dodge stopped the big rigs.... well true or not, not only did that guy run them into the ground, yet made it look like he was making the share holders rich, then got offered a lot more money to jump ship to dodge b4 it collapsed ...... employees where pissed. started screwing shit up intentionally and or just stopped caring knowing they where next of their friends and coworkers to get the shaft. ua-cam.com/video/Zjot6DBHNns/v-deo.html
Love the crawls, but how's the Remcharger coming along?
Cool video
Loving these vans.
Bonjour Steve. Great Van and great video as always. The grill behind the driver is to protect from being hit by flying objects from the cargo area in case of a sudden stop caused by an impact or hard braking.
Continue the great work. Your videos are becoming part of my morning routine. Toast, coffee and your latest upload.
Mine too!
I don't think IH ever had a truck assembly plant in Chicago. Headquarters was in Chicago, but the truck plants were in Ft. Wayne IN, Chatham Ontario, and Springfield, OH. At least some of the final assembly of the Metros was actually done at the Metro plant in Bridgeport with the chassis coming from one of the other IH plants.
I noticed a rectangular box attached to the side of the body, this was added to the Metro vans for the postal contract. International was going bankrupt and contracted with Dyna Truck out of Canada to finish the remaining contracts, still building the Metro series in the plant on Kasuth St. in Bridgeport, CT. The reason AMC engines were used is they were similar to I.H. engines and were already E.P.A. compliant. I.H did not have the capital to Federalize their engines. The I.H engines were designed back when drivers were responsible for their trucks and were generally designed for a 350,000 mile engine life. By this time a lot of ancillary components were imported from Japan in an effort to save money. Approximately six months after the contracts ended Dyna Truck closed the doors on the Bridgeport plant. The rarest models have a plate that says "DYNA TRUCK" where the "INTERNATIONAL" plate is between the signal lights in the front.
The problem with the IH engines is that , while they lasted long miles, they were horrible on fuel. Cost per mile matters so a very efficient engine that only lasts 200,000 miles can be more economical than one that lasts 400,000. This is especially true if the body only lasts 200,000 miles.
It was GREAT seeing you at Barret Jackson!!!!
The TV series S.W.A.T from the 70s used a Metro van. I had the toy version! Lol
Hi Steve, you are correct about the optional stand-up controls and right hand controls on older frequent-stop vans of that era. Old mail trucks where right hand drive. The steel grill was to protect the driver in regards to stacked cargo slamming forward on hard braking and/or forward impact. International Harvester did indeed use American Motors engines on quite a few of there trucks including commercial and/or harry homeowner. The automatic transmissions where Chrysler Torqueflite 727 or GM Turbo 400 or the Borg Warner Iron Case (basically a Ford FMX) There was nothing standard on a International Frequent-Stop Van, it was all hit or miss, whatever was the lowest bid. Please reply. Dave...
Good job
Steve alway knows his stuff crawling encyclopedia on vehicles
I bet that grid was more to protect the driver from shifting or flying cargo incase of a sudden stop whether it was voluntary or by accident.
That's exactly what it's for. They are often called "headache racks".
Very cool...make a great camper.. probably not this on though...
For all in the UK, that looks just like Postman Pat's van.
Australia to, paint it red
Another awesome video!, Keep it up Steve!
We have a 72 model I love these things
Right hand drive probably means mail delivery...
Steve shows up all the cool stuff !
When I was little in the '60s and early '70s, this is what brought our mail - until they switched to Jeeps.
here in the burbs of Detroit,,,we had pretty much Divco's
Enjoyed!! 👍👍
I still own a 1966 with the international engine and 3 on the tree. normall left hand drive
and 2 skinny pull open swing doors in the rear. I put an 8 track up above where he showed a windshield wiper motor. I used it for just driving around. It already had the rear end and axles changed to a geared higher car rear end. I also hauled some band equipment in it, for a 2nd truck.
My head had a crack in it in around 1976 the garage I brought to happened to have a rebuilt head he thought he would never sell . sold me the head for 100 dollars and always started. some times it would get stuck in 2 gears and I would have to pull the moveable floor where ever I was parked, as it only did that when you were first start and trying to go
Boy, I haven't seen one of those or the first gen you did yesterday in 30 years or so and the grid was probably to protect the driver from getting killed by flying cargo.
Yeah, you heard that right, $2.50 an hour! In that era, to start with, I made just less than $2.00 an hour, and the department head at the industrial supply business made a whole $3.00 an hour.
Hey @Steve Magnante you should check out Nick's Garage latest video. He just got in a 300J with the long ram 413 only 400 made and it's all original except for the current 413 under the hood. That's a 65 apparently, but the numbers matching 413 came along separately for a rebuild that will be dynoed in the end. What a sight that long ram intake setup is!
The step van I drove had a separation to prevent the bread from falling into the driver.
I wanted to see this one .
Grasias
Great explanation. That second generation left something like a Jeep to me. Or that grill look like a 45-year-old man with a bad mustache.
I wish I would have paid more attention to the milk trucks and diaper trucks when I was growing up in the 60s/70s
IIRC, a square Metro was used in the original SWAT tv series from 70s.
Sharpening truck
Steve. That's a very interesting wheel cover on your right to where your sitting! Can we see it in the hubcap game?!
Agreed, I'd like to know what that hubcap is too.
Started in72 colonial bread route with 12 ft truck with 6 volt 3 p33e on the floor with push button start and a red big light in the dash for turn signal indicator. Grew out of that truck and progressed till 82 with bigger and modern up to date trucks. Than in 1994 got a new gmc diesel auto and till wheel. 2010 got even more fancy with cd radio tilled wheel oull out ramp just needed ac
First gen international van looks beautiful for a van.a hot rodent one be very cool.
Never seen a 2nd gen one. All of the ones I see around here (including mine) are the better looking ones.
This is what my Die Cast IH Metro Van Bank looks like...
Keren buat foodtruk
Thanks for watching. I'm still in the hospital for encephalitis but am doing great compared to the 6 weeks I spent in a medically induced coma. Really. I cheated death says the doctor. But I'm ramping up to be released and should be back in the Junkyard soon. Thanks again for writing and watching. -Steve Magnante
Surprised you didn't point out the '69 Dodge Polara wheel cover. 😃
Love the junkyard PATINA all over everything !
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Great job Steve but how's your car coming along how's the 62 how about some updates some pictures.
I saw a metro van in a junkyard in Peyton Colorado with a 331 Cadillac V8 hacked in
I've only seen one aluminum body van like this very uncommon
The Divco delivered milk to me as a kid to the milkbox on the stoop. Did they make that same van in aluminum?
Looks like the same shifter used by Mopar
Since we're on a delivery vehicles theme, any right hand drive Subaru mail cars around there,Steve?
Steves going heavy on that Hair Dye
Nah, I don't think he dyes his hair. I'm willing to bet he's got the "fountain of youth" with regard to hair. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd bet it would have been gray at his age by now.
@Todd bob , I am not sure why you assume that Steve dyes his hair.
As someone who is Steve's age, I can say with honesty, that there are many of us who still have our natural hair color.
Those of us that still have hair, at least.🤣
It's mostly genetics.
I myself, still have my natural brown hair, with just a touch of grey coming in around the temples.
Yet my beard is now about 80% white.
Then, there's men like my (soon to be 83 year old) father.
He began getting grey hair (according to him) at age 17.
By the time he was in his latter 30s, he was completely white haired.
@@willhorting5317 I still have my hair and my nature color.
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Do you still have daily milk deliveries in the US as we have often seen in American movies?
Steve
Got a question for you. My son and I the other day were doing our own junk yard crawl and spotted a 78 Dodge pickup with a 6 cylinder Mitsubishi diesel. I assume the production of theses were low. Can you Tell me/us what the production number was for that said optioned truck? Thanks!!!
14th thumbs up 👍
Going to find a Grumman van next ?
Good morning Steve. I read a news clip that said the, Formel Motor Company in Great Barrington Massachusetts caught on fire. Story was dated for the 21st. Are you by this yard? Was any classic vehicles in the fire? Can you tell us anything about it? Curiosity has got this cat. Thanks, great show.
Bernarnston is quite a distance from Gt.Barrington.
@@ctprecast7437 thanks for the reply
The swat van was a metro.
Is this still a running salvage yard that you're at
Notidonada
Why Racine Wisconsin?
This van apparently did not do "Special D 🦌" deliveries.
"Oh deer".
Sorry guys ! Hot dog wagons ! LOL !
Didn't they have a delivery van on a Jeep chassis?
I like the other one.
1st view
The first generation was nicer looking but both were easy to convert to a small camper
Hola
Some of these had aluminum bodies
$3.35 is the lowest minimum wage that I remember. The lowest I worked for was $4.00 though.
$2.50 for me (shoveling dirt).
Same here. I got my work permit in 1981 and got paid $3.35. If you made tips then the employer got to pay you $2.10 an hour.
As a teen in the latter 1970s/early 1980s, once in a great while, my dad would decide to pay me an hourly wage for work done around the family farm...such as painting the house, ect.
The "normal" day-to-day work/chores...my "pay" was "a roof over my head; a clean bed to sleep on; clean and new clothes to wear; and good, nutritious food to eat".😎
Anyway, when I did get an hourly wage from my folks, it was $2.50 per hour.
When I got my first real job (age 18, 1983), the company paid me $4.00 an hour.
(I don't remember what the federal minimum wage was at the time.)
Fortunately, I was still living at home, for the next couple of years and wasn't required to pay my folks rent!
I can remember that, when I got my first raise... from $4.00 up to $4.25...I thought I was "living high on the hog".🤣🤣
My first job in 1971 was at burger chef and paid $1.19 hr.
I worked at Ferrell's ice cream parlors in 1970.....$1.10/hour to start, washing dishes. Paid every 2 weeks. I remember when I worked two full 40 hour weeks in a row that summer and couldn't wait to get my "huge" 80 hours check. Well, $70 bucks and change brought me down to earth, fast. That was a lot of dishes to be that crestfallen for.😁
Does anyone know how much money Peggy Sue's car sold for at recent auction.
Jeapordy answer international Metro, question 2hat if Susanne Boyle and Timex watches had a baby
Std
Mexico
Carthritis lol
You touched a nerve when you mentioned someone sitting in the seat making a minimum wage. Very sad.
5th..haha
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