What would you change with my tier list? Let me know! Edit: I also made a mistake, I said that the VRPGs have a radius of 4.4 meters when they have a radius of 7.5 meters
I've not got a helix but have at least one of everything else so would agree on this list. Arc torrents still useful but I rely on em, disc and rocket mortars mainly.
I love carbine I really hope it will be a tier, I think they can make it so carbine have 50% chance of dealing double damage for each hit or even triple for 20% chance, that will help the damage output a lot. That rng feeling is really good if it works
It's been pretty much the same for several months now. I hope they can make some slight nerfs and buffs so more weapons are viable and less weapons are OP
@@GangsterJabs I agree. I recently bought Nade Launcher 12 & 16 in the store for 79p each! They’re such fun weapons but they can’t compete at the top level. Even UA-cam content is getting dull because EM rifle gameplay is boring. I think EM’s and DL’s need a tweak to open up the meta and make more varied builds viable.
Oh man, yeah that's really expensive. But it's good that you have the disc launcher 12s, they will be really hard to get after the next update comes out
I still think missile racks have some functional issues that leave me wanting, but then again i exclusively play 5v5 and cpc so probably that. Helix rack 12 will make its way into meta as it becomes more accessible.
Yeah, if you don't play 2v2s and 1v1s, then you'll think the missile racks aren't a very great weapon. But if you do, then you'll know how strong they are there
Yeah, the helixes will become meta. On open maps, they completely dominate and are unstoppable. But on some maps, they're not that great. But having them in your hangar just for those open maps is definitely a good idea. I have them on my Killshot and it does really well
@Gangster JABS - Mech Arena i still think over 50m missile racks are too easy to dodge and due to its trajectory it's not like it's going to hit the floor next to you, it's just going to sail past and do nothing
You mean the Surge dash radius implant? They are both really good implants, but it's up to preference which one you think is better. The dash distance implant increases the distance by 12.8 meters. But the Surge dash radius increases the distance by 4.5 meters AND increases the radius by 4.5 meters. So it increases the radius and the distance, while the Surge dash distance only increases the distance, just by less. I think more radius + a bit more distance is better than 8.3 meters more distance with the dash distance implant. Both implants work, just a preference
I would recommend focusing on maxing your mechs first. When you max a mech, it makes a huge difference, and it makes the mech far stronger. You can upgrade weapons as well, but prioritize your mechs. It's also a good idea to rank a mech to rank six to get the second copy because that makes a big difference as well. But upgrading the weapon more than that isn't necessary
i'm surprised that you rank the Minigun this low, i thịnk Minigun is a super strong weapon now, they require 3 weapon specific implants but i think Minigun is better than Arc torrent. They have a better range and a super high mag capacity so they can deal crazy amount of damage before need to reload. The shot delay is a bit weakness for him but when you use Minigun on Surge, spin up the barrel when dash into the enemy at the same time, that the problem solve
With surge its okay cause of the stun but mini gun basically puts you out in the open to get shot and with em rifles being meta its not good for minigun users.
I won Graviton 10 rank 1 lvl 1 from a plaoff event and I thought it was useless before the update so I left it in inventory. surprisingly it hoarded enough bps to rank 5 lvl 1 and used acoins to get second copy. its good for 10 energy cap.
I finally have enough for rg16! Wish this playoff had a better prize though. Don’t really want to risk waiting for a better playoff in case the progress system update is coming soon.
If I have a rank 2 lvl 7 Grav Beam 10, and a rank 4 lvl 7 Arc 10, what should I focus on ? I might have just enough blueprints to level up Grav Beam to rank 4 lvl 1...
I'd say try to get a 12 energy weapon and invest in that since it'll be much more useful later on. But if you had to choose, I'd probably go with graviton beams, they're better. But it's a tough call
@@GangsterJabs Alright, thx ! Unfortunately, I don't have Arc 12 or Grav 12... I also forgot to mention the implants I have ! For Arc, I have legy dmg, 2 epic dmg, epic mag, and rare range. For Grav, I only have both rare dmg and mag...
Only at close and mid range, discs have no chance against EMs at long range. And for discs to work, they need something to splash off of. And a skilled EM player can stay away from wall and stuff making it difficult to splash them
Hi jabs I have to disagree with you on the arc torrents. For me they are S tier weapon. I completely wreck opponents with these weapons in tournament. They are my first choice in tourny.
I tired them on my freinds account. He got neymar and an epic damage implant with missles at level 5 and they do 73k back splash per missle. Thats already more damage than the disk launcher 12 could possibly do, a pair of maxed disk launcher 12 on stalker with predator drive damage implant maxed, stefania maxed and legendary damage implant maxed will do 72.1k back splash per disk . If they had a radius implant, rhey could easily, easily be s tier. ..
I don't know where you're getting that calculation, the EM 16s deal a maximum of 528,120 damage from far range and much less from close range. They're not an invincible weapon, they're easy to avoid if you're skilled since they have bad precision and have a delay. You just wall peek against them, and if you see a green lazer coming at you, make sure to hide
I had a account that had 12,904 squad power then I checked with my brother and it dealed 700,000 damage in close range and in the longest map it dealed 2,000,000
Not true they have the 3rd highest radius. Disc launchers have a radius of 14 meters, rocket mortars have a radius of about 12 meters, and Missile Racks are tier for 3rd with a radius of 7.5 meters. The VRPGs also have a radius of 7.5 meters making them tied for third place
@@GangsterJabs Bro hace mucho tiempo ya no subes videos y me esta preocupando. Te quiero hacer una consulta que solo en ti confio que me responda. Estoy con una duda en cuanto que arma utilizar si los missil rack 12 o las arc torrent 12 para mi surge. Tengo piloto legendario de corta distancia y tengo a Neymar para los misiles. La diferencia es que tengo implantes legendarios para los misiles y tengo implantes comunes (exepto cargador) para las arc torrent. Mi gusto personal me parece mejores las arc torrent ya que el cargador completo hace mas daño pero como digo, tengo implantes legendarios con los missil racks. Tu con cual te quedarias?. Perdon por escribir en español pero el traductor te lo puede traducir :v
No.. no they dont EMs should of never been this strong.. only build I can run a single em16 at 5* and get 20+ kills almost every single time.. there's not any other builds that can do that
Not really, the EMs are far more OP than the rest of the weapons. They're much stronger than the discs which are the second best weapon in the game. If they nerf the EMs, they'll probably be about as good as the disc launchers and the raulguns. Unless they nerf the EMs to oblivion which is very unlikely for them to do so. They'll probably slight nerf them to make them less OP
hey jabs. i want some help. it is with my username. how do i convert my gamer tag into those weird letters. like u have in ur gamer tag. i know this is a out of topic question but pls reply. i play on a pc so its confusing. pls reply. my user name ia AppleFighter
My love for helix is spreading across the community 💝 I love it🤗
Yessir!🔥
The helixes are SO GUD.
What would you change with my tier list? Let me know!
Edit: I also made a mistake, I said that the VRPGs have a radius of 4.4 meters when they have a radius of 7.5 meters
With most people’s tier lists I typically disagree on multiple things but I completely agree with everything you had on this list. Great video 10/10!
@@ringergaming7 Thanks bro! I'm glad you think my tier list is accurate!
Once again I’ve scrapped a legendary helix implant. But I disliked javs so I’m not very excited about helixes.
I've not got a helix but have at least one of everything else so would agree on this list. Arc torrents still useful but I rely on em, disc and rocket mortars mainly.
I myself typically am working on achievements so I use a lot of garbage stuff🤣
I really like how you now explain which modes apply for each weapon (2v2, 1v2, CPC). That's really important context and adds a lot. Great vid!
I'm glad you liked it, thanks!
I love carbine I really hope it will be a tier, I think they can make it so carbine have 50% chance of dealing double damage for each hit or even triple for 20% chance, that will help the damage output a lot. That rng feeling is really good if it works
“Disc Launcher are the weapon keeping the EM rifles in check” preach the gospel ☺️
I'm glad you liked my statement😂
Love your content man. Short and precise. Not to mention... very informative.❤
Thanks a lot bro! I'm glad you like it!
If you don't have ems in your hangar your gonna get wrecked!
My dl 12 lancer: hold my godlikes
If you can dominate with your Lancer, then respect to you. I said you'll "probably" get wrecked btw
Yes
You hit it out of the park again Jabs, another great video bro
Advil
Thanks a lot bro!
Thanks for the informative video! It's okay to blink sometimes.
Not surprised by this list. It’s a shame the game isn’t more balanced, the meta is boring. 😴
It's been pretty much the same for several months now. I hope they can make some slight nerfs and buffs so more weapons are viable and less weapons are OP
@@GangsterJabs I agree. I recently bought Nade Launcher 12 & 16 in the store for 79p each! They’re such fun weapons but they can’t compete at the top level.
Even UA-cam content is getting dull because EM rifle gameplay is boring.
I think EM’s and DL’s need a tweak to open up the meta and make more varied builds viable.
just ranked up my panther & bought disc 12 almost 9k a-coins!!! its too much man
Oh man, yeah that's really expensive. But it's good that you have the disc launcher 12s, they will be really hard to get after the next update comes out
Super helpful thx bro!!
Thanks bro!
I still think missile racks have some functional issues that leave me wanting, but then again i exclusively play 5v5 and cpc so probably that.
Helix rack 12 will make its way into meta as it becomes more accessible.
Yeah, if you don't play 2v2s and 1v1s, then you'll think the missile racks aren't a very great weapon. But if you do, then you'll know how strong they are there
Yeah, the helixes will become meta. On open maps, they completely dominate and are unstoppable. But on some maps, they're not that great. But having them in your hangar just for those open maps is definitely a good idea. I have them on my Killshot and it does really well
@Gangster JABS - Mech Arena i still think over 50m missile racks are too easy to dodge and due to its trajectory it's not like it's going to hit the floor next to you, it's just going to sail past and do nothing
@Adam Timmons Yeah, they're definitely not a long range weapon. They're really only good up close
I agree with most of your analysis.
I especially agree with your RG vs EM comparison, mos def on point.
Godspeed and Blessings
Thanks bro!
@@GangsterJabs of course bro
..you Da man
So why are you going with Surge System Crash Radius Implant when previously you were saying, the Dash Distance Implant was the better implant?
You mean the Surge dash radius implant? They are both really good implants, but it's up to preference which one you think is better. The dash distance implant increases the distance by 12.8 meters. But the Surge dash radius increases the distance by 4.5 meters AND increases the radius by 4.5 meters. So it increases the radius and the distance, while the Surge dash distance only increases the distance, just by less. I think more radius + a bit more distance is better than 8.3 meters more distance with the dash distance implant. Both implants work, just a preference
@@GangsterJabs oh dang. I never thought of it like that! Thanks!
So should I upgrade my Mechs or weapons first
A bit of both imo...but would invest in weapons or mechs you know you'll use long term
@@EJsGamingArena thanks because I just bought dis Launcher 8 and I don't know if to max it out or upgrade my mechs
Weapons to 6* then mechs to 6* then max weapons then mechs
Thank you for the advice
I would recommend focusing on maxing your mechs first. When you max a mech, it makes a huge difference, and it makes the mech far stronger. You can upgrade weapons as well, but prioritize your mechs. It's also a good idea to rank a mech to rank six to get the second copy because that makes a big difference as well. But upgrading the weapon more than that isn't necessary
i'm surprised that you rank the Minigun this low, i thịnk Minigun is a super strong weapon now, they require 3 weapon specific implants but i think Minigun is better than Arc torrent. They have a better range and a super high mag capacity so they can deal crazy amount of damage before need to reload. The shot delay is a bit weakness for him but when you use Minigun on Surge, spin up the barrel when dash into the enemy at the same time, that the problem solve
With surge its okay cause of the stun but mini gun basically puts you out in the open to get shot and with em rifles being meta its not good for minigun users.
Those are fair points, you could make the case that they are better than the arc torrents
I won Graviton 10 rank 1 lvl 1 from a plaoff event and I thought it was useless before the update so I left it in inventory. surprisingly it hoarded enough bps to rank 5 lvl 1 and used acoins to get second copy. its good for 10 energy cap.
Yeah, nice
Why doesn't any do a video. On how much in real money. Things cost in this game! Let's be real on how much people are spending. On weapons and mechs
Why doesn't anyone do a video on what? I don't understand what you're trying to ask
@@GangsterJabs he's talking about cost of item's in game
Bro after the EM nerf make a vid on it so where does it is now. S TIER? A? OR SOMEOTHER
Yeah, I'll definitely make a video on it
I finally have enough for rg16! Wish this playoff had a better prize though. Don’t really want to risk waiting for a better playoff in case the progress system update is coming soon.
Yeah makes sense. But I think it's really good, a-coins is always a good prize
You always rock the content!
If I have a rank 2 lvl 7 Grav Beam 10, and a rank 4 lvl 7 Arc 10, what should I focus on ? I might have just enough blueprints to level up Grav Beam to rank 4 lvl 1...
I'd say try to get a 12 energy weapon and invest in that since it'll be much more useful later on. But if you had to choose, I'd probably go with graviton beams, they're better. But it's a tough call
@@GangsterJabs Alright, thx ! Unfortunately, I don't have Arc 12 or Grav 12...
I also forgot to mention the implants I have ! For Arc, I have legy dmg, 2 epic dmg, epic mag, and rare range. For Grav, I only have both rare dmg and mag...
Hi Gangster JABS, I was wondering what are your thoughts about Eclipse? Do your think he is a "top 5 mech"? or a "S-Tier" mech? Please let us know
Haha, I'll upload a video on Eclipse soon. You'll see my thoughts about him. Stay tuned for that
Sup! Do you have any idea when the update is coming?
Na, I have no idea when it's gonna come out
Love it! What do you think about Panther with Gravs?
Good against bots, but people are usually smart enough to get out of the way. Thats why he reccomended they be only used with surge cause of the stun.
Thanks! Yeah, it's a good build for tournament. But definitely use a weapon like discs, EMs, or rails against players
5:20 lancer crying in the corner
Whoops I forgot about Lancer and Tengu😂
True but do keep in mind dls can counter em campers
Only at close and mid range, discs have no chance against EMs at long range. And for discs to work, they need something to splash off of. And a skilled EM player can stay away from wall and stuff making it difficult to splash them
@@GangsterJabs true but you can hit the ground next to the mech if you have maxed radius implant
Hi jabs I have to disagree with you on the arc torrents. For me they are S tier weapon. I completely wreck opponents with these weapons in tournament. They are my first choice in tourny.
Nice
Hey would it be possible for you to look at my hanger and tell me what to change? would appreciate it.
Sorry, I don't have time. But if you have any specific questions then I'll answer them
@Gangster JABS - Mech Arena No it's ok 👌
Bro I have 2 legendary helix implants but no helix (got them from playoff)
Oh man. Well when you get the helixes, you can dominate with them. They'll probably be in the new progress system for you to buy
Honestly arcs are pretty good, I only use the 6’s on zephyr because I don’t have the arc 10😢
Nice, they're a good weapon early game
You're saying voltaic rpgs at rank 5 and up have the same radius as missksraxk with the max radius implant?
Yeah, it has a radius of 7.5 meters, same as the missile racks with the radius implant maxed. They are a pretty decent 2v2 weapon
I tired them on my freinds account. He got neymar and an epic damage implant with missles at level 5 and they do 73k back splash per missle. Thats already more damage than the disk launcher 12 could possibly do, a pair of maxed disk launcher 12 on stalker with predator drive damage implant maxed, stefania maxed and legendary damage implant maxed will do 72.1k back splash per disk . If they had a radius implant, rhey could easily, easily be s tier. ..
Hi bro, I have dl 16 at 3 star, is it worth it if I spend the acoins for dl 12 Or just leave it and upgrade dl 16 ?
I would try to get both of them. They're both really strobg weapons, and it's a really good idea to have two disc launcher mechs in your hangar
@@GangsterJabs cool thanks
Video is only a month old and a lot has happened since then
Really? I feel like the weapon meta has barely changed? It's still pretty much the same
Bro in close range em rifle can do 700,000 damage and from really far it can do 2,000,000 damage
I don't know where you're getting that calculation, the EM 16s deal a maximum of 528,120 damage from far range and much less from close range. They're not an invincible weapon, they're easy to avoid if you're skilled since they have bad precision and have a delay. You just wall peek against them, and if you see a green lazer coming at you, make sure to hide
@Farzana Kamal You don't have access to the test server lol. That's only for official Mech Arena content creators
I had a account that had 12,904 squad power then I checked with my brother and it dealed 700,000 damage in close range and in the longest map it dealed 2,000,000
Damage
How to get two helix rack 12?
You need to level them up to rank 6, and then you'll get the second copy of the helix rack 12s
The way you speak is so captivating! :D ahahah I'm smilling all the time, and yet you not talking anything funny
That's awesome that you like how I speak! A lot of people find how I talk weird, but I'm glad you like it😊
@@GangsterJabs people are jealous!
I dont have ems and i wreck with my shotguns
Vrpg has 7.5m radius....2nd highest in the game.
Not true they have the 3rd highest radius. Disc launchers have a radius of 14 meters, rocket mortars have a radius of about 12 meters, and Missile Racks are tier for 3rd with a radius of 7.5 meters. The VRPGs also have a radius of 7.5 meters making them tied for third place
I also made a mistake saying that it had a radius of 4.4 meters when it has a radius of 7.5 meters. Thanks for correcting me
Bro i guardian with disc launcher is really best build
Yeah, it's definitely the best build on Guardian
Really good video bro. 👍♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Thanks!😊
Shotgun deserve better than that
Yeah, they're pretty bad now. But the Fragment guns look pretty good, hopefully they'll be on the new progress system for everyone to get
@@GangsterJabs ember guns: hold my mag
Bro staring at my soul
😂
I think arc torrents are A tier they are still really strong.
You can make the case for that. They're a strong weapon
Your rating is mostly wrong
It's just my opinion using the experience I've had with the current meta. You're free to disagree with me. What would you change with the tier list?
Piña
arc torrent en B? interesante :v
Si jaja
@@GangsterJabs Bro hace mucho tiempo ya no subes videos y me esta preocupando. Te quiero hacer una consulta que solo en ti confio que me responda. Estoy con una duda en cuanto que arma utilizar si los missil rack 12 o las arc torrent 12 para mi surge. Tengo piloto legendario de corta distancia y tengo a Neymar para los misiles. La diferencia es que tengo implantes legendarios para los misiles y tengo implantes comunes (exepto cargador) para las arc torrent. Mi gusto personal me parece mejores las arc torrent ya que el cargador completo hace mas daño pero como digo, tengo implantes legendarios con los missil racks. Tu con cual te quedarias?. Perdon por escribir en español pero el traductor te lo puede traducir :v
First🎉
Bro why bro!
What happened?
if they nerf ems they gotta nerf every S and A weapon or at least S
No.. no they dont EMs should of never been this strong.. only build I can run a single em16 at 5* and get 20+ kills almost every single time.. there's not any other builds that can do that
@@6starFenrir mortar missles discs railgun... and any weapon with surge
Not really, the EMs are far more OP than the rest of the weapons. They're much stronger than the discs which are the second best weapon in the game. If they nerf the EMs, they'll probably be about as good as the disc launchers and the raulguns. Unless they nerf the EMs to oblivion which is very unlikely for them to do so. They'll probably slight nerf them to make them less OP
Don't change your talking style this is what makes you more attractive
Oh really? Thanks bro! I'm glad you like how I talk!
Yes, and you are welcome. your talking style is what makes the videos more fun to watch .
Tier list is boring. It predicted be everybody. Shame to the game.
Yeah, I hope they nerf the EMs to make other weapons more viable
hey jabs. i want some help. it is with my username. how do i convert my gamer tag into those weird letters. like u have in ur gamer tag. i know this is a out of topic question but pls reply. i play on a pc so its confusing. pls reply. my user name ia AppleFighter
Yo I fought you yesterday im a big fan Jewzilla game name sent invite hit me up man
Nice bro! I'll add you!