RX 7900 GRE Review: Head-To-Head vs RTX 4070

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  • Опубліковано 2 лис 2024

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  • @lukasschmidt9555
    @lukasschmidt9555 8 місяців тому +26

    The thing is, when you compare to other 4070's it's usually their lowest models, I would rather have a premium 7900 GRE such as the Hellhound than buying a cheaper 4070. PowerColor Did a great job with their card.

  • @eugkra33
    @eugkra33 8 місяців тому +17

    It's not memory capacity in Cyberpunk. That game doesn't even use 10GB without RT enabled. It's just the architecture of RDNA3, because you can see the performance gains vs the 6800xt as well with the same memory configuration.

  • @DaveTheeMan-wj2nk
    @DaveTheeMan-wj2nk 6 місяців тому +8

    7900 gre as of today with sam activated and OC applied gets close to a 4070 ti super at times, and often beats a 4070 super.
    The 4070 stands no chance bros.

  • @JusticeGamingChannel
    @JusticeGamingChannel 8 місяців тому +8

    It is actually a cut-down Navi 31 die (7900 XT), yes it has the memory subsystem of the 7800 XT, but the die is related to the 7900 XT. In addition, for AIB models at $599, that price point more directly compares to the RTX 4070 SUPER.

  • @mraltoid19
    @mraltoid19 8 місяців тому +10

    2:00 - I'm surprised they didn't name it the "Radeon 7800XTX" to create some synergy in their product stack. That may leave open the door for a 7600XTX based an a further cut down 7700XT ?

    • @__-fi6xg
      @__-fi6xg 5 місяців тому

      eh,7700 xt is a let down comparing prices to the 6000 series, and nvidias naming sceme is just overall really bad

    • @samov497
      @samov497 5 місяців тому +2

      I'm actually happy that they kept the naming scheme of the 7900 GRE instead of switching it and causing potential customer confusion by calling it a 7800xtx or something similar. AMD was straight forward about this being an already existing card and I think that helped the reviewers and community make better informed decisions.

  • @hbdude155
    @hbdude155 8 місяців тому +21

    As a former grad student gre is triggering lol

  • @techieg33k
    @techieg33k 8 місяців тому +4

    Pretty solid for the price. Hoping i can win one of those 7900xtx Starfield cards though

  • @guyharris8007
    @guyharris8007 8 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for your time.

  • @christopheroliver8762
    @christopheroliver8762 5 місяців тому +2

    I recently purchased the 7900 GRE. I chose it over the Nvidia option as it was the better value at the price I was willing to pay. The Adrenaline software is pretty good imo. I can do everything I need to tune the card's performance for how I want it. Incredibly useful as it sits in a small form factor case, very close to me when I'm gaming.

    • @grga1vk
      @grga1vk 3 місяці тому +1

      how is your gpu doing now after some time? any bugs/crashes etc..? Is it good on 1440p? Im planing on buying 7900 gre in few months. I bought 6650xt for my gf last christmas but its bugged on lol and valorant.

    • @joelfernando1
      @joelfernando1 3 місяці тому

      @@grga1vk dont buy! I just sent my 7900gre back. Going Nvidia again. Cant overclock the cheapest GRE, its hot, uses more power and the AMD drivers are dog shiiiit. My gpu driver crashes and reset everyday, had Nvidia for yeras, several cards (1650,1660 s, 1660ti, 3060, 4060) never had issues.

    • @tommysimonsen4043
      @tommysimonsen4043 3 місяці тому +2

      @@grga1vk I have been running with the Hellhound since it came out here in EU. It's running like a champ and i have had no problems with OC. I get 23457 GPU score in Time Spy. MEM 2400MHz. GPU clock 2750MHz. mV 1010. Power +15%. I have not had any crashes at all or driver problems.

  • @stephanhart9941
    @stephanhart9941 8 місяців тому +4

    OC EVERYTHING on that MoFo!!! Let's see what it can really do!

    • @metalface_villain
      @metalface_villain 8 місяців тому

      i think currently there is some sort of bug that doesn't allow for proper overclocking

    • @stephanhart9941
      @stephanhart9941 8 місяців тому

      @@metalface_villain it's been 8 days. Anybody who follows this stuff has already heard about this supposed Bug.

  • @metalface_villain
    @metalface_villain 8 місяців тому +5

    the gre is shown to be better than the super version most times in raster and is beating the 4070 non super even with ray tracing on, while being pretty close to the super, plus it has 4 extra gb of vram while being cheaper. that's pretty impressive if you ask me, with nvidia cards only having slightly better upscaling with dlss over it, which is a non factor since you probably won't even use upscaling that much at 1440p. i think it's a pretty good idea to yoink this if you find it close to its msrp.

    • @gatsusagara6637
      @gatsusagara6637 7 місяців тому

      I find the DLSS upscaler much more effective at lower resolutions like 1080p for weaker cards. At 1440p, I rather just run native.

    • @DaveTheeMan-wj2nk
      @DaveTheeMan-wj2nk 6 місяців тому

      @@gatsusagara6637 yes, FSR 3.1 tho coming out soon looks to be VERY close to DLSS. I look forward to that.
      Don't regret my 7900 grte purchase at all. Runs flawless. Super cool too hellhound.

  • @JusticeGamingChannel
    @JusticeGamingChannel 8 місяців тому +9

    Might I also suggest sorting the graphs by fastest to slowest or slowest to fastest.

    • @StunXPlayz
      @StunXPlayz 8 місяців тому +2

      Yeah I got a bit confused when the 7900 GRE was slower than the rest

  • @JusticeGamingChannel
    @JusticeGamingChannel 8 місяців тому +2

    Really using older games, in these benchmarks published in the past week, might I suggest, newer games? Games that push the hardware more? Just a thought.

    • @metalface_villain
      @metalface_villain 8 місяців тому +1

      cyberpunk is a pretty demanding game and it's made for nvidia gpus and the gre still beat the non super in both raster and rt while being super close to the super in rt. ofc you will get more accurate numbers with a bigger variety of game and a larger number of games tested but i think it's safe to say that we can get the general idea from the ones demonstrated and others who have tested the gpu show similar results.

    • @adamo36532
      @adamo36532 2 місяці тому

      Nobody is playing any newer games though lol.

  • @__-fi6xg
    @__-fi6xg 5 місяців тому +1

    was this made before or after the overclocking update of the driver?

  • @Razor2048
    @Razor2048 8 місяців тому +1

    I wish reviews would also focus on overclocking as well, especially considering that the GPU is significantly underclocked compared to the 7800XT and 7900XT.

    • @Eternalduoae
      @Eternalduoae 8 місяців тому +1

      I think that sort of thing should be in a separate video.
      However, especially in this case, AMD have already indicated that there is an issue with the OC limits for these cards and there will be an update extending them a bit.
      So, not really even worth doing the OC yet anyway.

    • @CCDaDon15
      @CCDaDon15 8 місяців тому

      Yeah the OC is limited because of what AMD calls a glitch. Who knows if that was a glitch or just something they were hoping no one would notice.

  • @Vegemeister1
    @Vegemeister1 8 місяців тому +10

    This is a 4K card, not 1440p. In the raster portion you were testing everything at max settings without upscaling, and even then there was only one game that dipped substantially below 60 FPS.
    People buying $550 video cards for 1440p are victims of marketing.

    • @metalface_villain
      @metalface_villain 8 місяців тому +3

      most new games will be like cyberpunk on 4k, where it had 40fps, so even though it can play games like that if you upscale, it surely isn't optimal and you will have a much better experience at 1440p.

    • @Vegemeister1
      @Vegemeister1 8 місяців тому

      @@metalface_villain No you won't. 1440p temporally upscaled to 4K is a better experience than 1440p native, and again that's *ultra settings*. And you will have a better monitor the other 95% of the time you are using your computer for anything other than AAA tech demos.

    • @metalface_villain
      @metalface_villain 8 місяців тому +3

      @@Vegemeister1 you complain about paying 500 for a 1440p gpu but are ok with buying a much more expensive monitor at 4k where you will barely be able to play at that resolution with that card. the much higher frames on 1440p alone make it a much better experience than the 4k and i don't think the upscaled version will look better either, especially with an amd card. the games now, whether we like it or not, are super demanding and also extremely unoptimized, so most games will struggle at 4k even with high end cards sometimes, let alone with a 1440p card. i do agree that outside of gaming, the 4k monitor is pretty sweet but that alone isn't a good enough of a reason to go for 4k gaming because of the higher cost of the monitor itself, plus the extra cost to properly run staff at that resolution. for me not only is it not worth going for 4k with a gre but it's not really worth it in general, unless you are pretty well off economically. for me the reasonable thing is to either go for a good value to performance 1440p or go big on a 4k build, anything in between is a silly idea.

    • @Vegemeister1
      @Vegemeister1 8 місяців тому

      @@metalface_villainI disagree with the idea that one should pay $1000+ for a 4K GPU just as much as I disagree with paying $550 for a 1440p GPU. If you want to waste money on graphics cards several times as expensive as your monitor, have at it, but the only people whose value you'd be maximizing are AMD and Nvidia stockholders.
      Upscaling works. Higher resolution (up to 200 PPI or so) is strictly better except for the esports games that people want to run at crazy refresh rates, which are bandwidth limited on 4K.

    • @metalface_villain
      @metalface_villain 8 місяців тому +3

      @@Vegemeister1 bro you will barely hit 60 fps with upscaling with that card on 4k, it's not a stable and smooth experience and that's all there is to it. im not saying to spend 1k+ for a gpu for 4k, i'm saying play on 1440p with a 550 usd card. if you wanna pay more for a 4k monitor and have a shitty experience you do you, just don't try to convince people that a 1440p card is good for 4k xD

  • @InACoolTone
    @InACoolTone 3 місяці тому +1

    Bro!!! I just bought 2 on sale on Amazon now!!!! Hellbound for $350!!! The Red Devil is $320!!! Thank me later!!!
    The bad thing about my purchase is I have an all white PC with a now black GPU. OOOOOOH EFFIN WELL!!!

  • @sobo5476
    @sobo5476 7 місяців тому +2

    Have been flipping between this card and a 4070 Super. The 4070 looks better with the DLSS and Ray Tracing, but I just feel that the 4070 lacks any real horsepower in those areas and it makes it pretty much not worth much. So I'm looking at 1440 gaming, and the GRE seems to be better on many occasions. I feel buying a 4070 will only give me entry-level to the good stuff, so it's not really worth that much.

  • @MrSyphon28
    @MrSyphon28 3 місяці тому +2

    Not the best review, it’s not a super 7800xt. It’s a cut down 7900xt. Think of it as the 7900.

  • @eilegz
    @eilegz 8 місяців тому +26

    the 7900 gre its competing against the 4070 super not the 4070 the same way that the 7800xt compete with the 4070... all those cards its overpriced, the 4800xt itself should lower to 450 and the 7900 gre should cost 500 so they have the 100 dollars gap over the nvidia options otherwise people would just choose nvidia because of dlss and rtx

    • @stebo5562
      @stebo5562 8 місяців тому +6

      It’s the same price as 4070 and rt performance is on par.

    • @RX7800XTBenchmarks
      @RX7800XTBenchmarks 7 місяців тому +2

      According to these benchmarks, the 7900gre is competing against the 4070ti in raster performance. The 7800xt is competing more so with the 4070 super. The OG 4070 shouldn't even be talked about as a purchase alternative to the 7800xt. The 4070 should be $400, it's 12gb 192 bus, slower in rasterization, and ray tracing is really not that dissimilar, as both will require frame generation. And frame generation eats vram. 7800xt also has a much larger performance headroom when overclocking. Xess upscaler is also a great alternative to dlss, so fsr is not mandatory. 4070 is one of the worst GPUs for its price of this generation. Facts .

    • @Bretaxy
      @Bretaxy 7 місяців тому +2

      No, you would choose, not people.

    • @deviouslaw
      @deviouslaw 7 місяців тому

      If the 7900 gre costs the same as 4070, that is what it competes with. Realistically 7800xt, 4070, 7900 gre & 4070 super all are close enough to cross shop.

    • @eilegz
      @eilegz 7 місяців тому

      @@deviouslaw in cost for sure but even steve from hardware unboxed its comparing it against 4070 super, theres a mindshare that AMD GPU should always be cheaper than Nvidia one

  • @victorrev1253
    @victorrev1253 3 місяці тому

    In my country, the 7900gre is priced about the same as 4070 super. Which one would be the better deal for gaming?

    • @igm1571
      @igm1571 7 днів тому

      Which models? If rtx4070S is same price i would just no brain to pick up rtx4070s but it should be asus dual as minimum but in my country the asus dual is hella expensive while 7900gre you got premium one.

  • @Lazarosaliths
    @Lazarosaliths 8 місяців тому +2

    Great value for a card. Too bad we don't see the same value in the low end. Good GPUs are 500$+++ so many great options there, and in the 200$ range nothing!!!

  • @evilleader1991
    @evilleader1991 8 місяців тому +2

    7900 GRE similar performance to 4070 Ti Super @ 4K and they are complaining about the GRE? LOL

  • @rdnowlin1206
    @rdnowlin1206 7 місяців тому +4

    More like a RX7800XTX

  • @MrSyphon28
    @MrSyphon28 3 місяці тому

    If the gaming industry wants RT to take off, it can’t be limited to the 4090 or even 4080 ti level cards. Or it will be two more generations minimum.

  • @roki977
    @roki977 8 місяців тому +1

    4070 non super, rtx 4060 for real needs to be under 500$, closer to 450$ to be good buy. 7900gre and even 7800xt are destroying it to much in pure performance..

    • @metalface_villain
      @metalface_villain 8 місяців тому

      getting a card under 16gb nowadays seems like a big nono, making most of nvidia options not viable other than their really expensive stuff of over 800 usd.

  • @Steve-Richter
    @Steve-Richter 8 місяців тому

    Are these the cards I use when running a private LLM on a PC? Would help a lot if you ran llm benchmarks.

  • @manojlds
    @manojlds 2 місяці тому

    Ha ha, thought most westerners wouldn't know about the GRE exam 😊

  • @marcasswellbmd6922
    @marcasswellbmd6922 8 місяців тому +1

    I do 4K with a 6800XT so they better do 4K Maybe not ultra everything every time but I'm playing Hogwarts high settings 80 to 100 FPS..

  • @jakobw135
    @jakobw135 6 місяців тому

    Is an AMD-Nvidia combination best for overall performance - including for Linux?

  • @threadripper979
    @threadripper979 8 місяців тому +1

    I don't care about this substandard GPU. How is Gordon doing?

  • @Boorock70
    @Boorock70 8 місяців тому +3

    $550 is still too MUCH for GRE !
    Make it $500 (and the 7800XT $450ish) then the cards will fly away from the shelves... 👍

    • @FutureDocta
      @FutureDocta 8 місяців тому +3

      7800xt flew off the shelves at 500$ though, was out of stock for about a month after launch.

    • @metalface_villain
      @metalface_villain 8 місяців тому +1

      i would love for this to be 500 but i don't think it is too much at 550, considering it is 10% more expensive than the 7800xt but also 10% better and the 7800xt is great value for its performance. it's at the same price as the 4070 while it clears both the 4070 and the super in raster and is close to the super in ray tracing.

    • @igm1571
      @igm1571 7 днів тому

      Well, good new, some models including Hellhound is down the price to around 530$ or lower.

  • @justdillon5759
    @justdillon5759 6 місяців тому

    GRE overclocking has been fixed in the amds adrenaline software

  • @Tech-Neekz
    @Tech-Neekz 8 місяців тому +6

    Almost all these benchmarks put the GRE closer to performance to a 4070ti, sometimes even 4070ti super.
    A MUCH more expensive card. (Not including RT).

  • @gunslinga7077
    @gunslinga7077 8 місяців тому

    Can’t find that asus dual 7900 gre anywhere rn so clean looking

    • @igm1571
      @igm1571 7 днів тому

      There is no asus dual from amd, 7800xt has asus tuf.

  • @jakobw135
    @jakobw135 6 місяців тому

    When is AMD going to be finally able to compete with Nvidia on both graphics and action?
    Why doesn't AMD modify its cards so it can use DLSS like Nvidia can?

    • @KapinKrunch
      @KapinKrunch 6 місяців тому +1

      DLSS is only on nvidia they made it

  • @miladh1859
    @miladh1859 8 місяців тому

    I have RPM FAN problem on 7900gre 😑😑

  • @okayman1163
    @okayman1163 7 місяців тому +1

    Rx 7850 xt

  • @olivur_1459
    @olivur_1459 7 місяців тому

    RTX 4070 needs to be $100 cheaper.

  • @yakaboy89
    @yakaboy89 4 місяці тому

    vanila 4070?

  • @jwdickieson
    @jwdickieson 8 місяців тому +2

    7800 XTX🤔

  • @poocruncha3266
    @poocruncha3266 2 місяці тому

    They have some 4060ti's at the same price as the 7800xt...😂.. who would purchase the 4060 over the 7800xt...Not me i have a Golden 🥇 🐇.!

  • @Wobbothe3rd
    @Wobbothe3rd 8 місяців тому +1

    AMDs 90 class trading blows with Nvidia's 70 class. Tells you all you need to know. COPE.

  • @DylanCastellanos-mz8kf
    @DylanCastellanos-mz8kf 7 місяців тому

    The dude on the right is triggering me so much. Dumb takes and feels like he just woke up.

  • @CuttinInIdaho
    @CuttinInIdaho 8 місяців тому +3

    This is why you guys suck and digital foundry wipes the floor with you.
    The 4070, with DLSS 3, and path tracing wipes the floor with the 7900 xt and the gre...but you simply won't show how NVidia is a card+feature set with dedicated hardware.
    You used FSR while Nvidia has DLSS 3, better frame generation, and 70+% of the market. How much did AMD deposit in your account?
    That said, all trolling aside, I will still buy a 7900 GRE for my htpc/tv gaming rig over any Nvidia at up to $750. If I can get a 4070ti super though, no question...4070ti super. Good move AMD, now get dedicated AI hardware.

    • @ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter
      @ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter 8 місяців тому +3

      Nobody who understands that Ray Tracing is literally a gimmick to make up for poor graphics, cares that much. Also, AMD has dedicated AI hardware and around 90% or all AI PC's now are AMD systems for example. Why did you not know this?

    • @CuttinInIdaho
      @CuttinInIdaho 8 місяців тому +4

      @@ZenAndPsychedelicHealingCenter yeah their CPU's have it...keep saying gimmick as that list grows.
      Please show an example of how RT is a gimmick....Digital Foundry has plenty of examples...
      Hmmm...who should the average person listen to?
      As for me, my eyes know the difference. It is always the guys who don't have something claiming gimmick.

    • @Wobbothe3rd
      @Wobbothe3rd 8 місяців тому +1

      These guys have a deal with AMD, they support AMD to the extreme, it's blatantly unethical journalism.

    • @CuttinInIdaho
      @CuttinInIdaho 8 місяців тому

      @@Wobbothe3rd I couldn't agree more. I really hope AMD gets up to speed so there is real competition...

    • @Bretaxy
      @Bretaxy 7 місяців тому

      Stop crying so much over a video.

  • @mikebruzzone9570
    @mikebruzzone9570 8 місяців тому

    mb

  • @CaptainScorpio24
    @CaptainScorpio24 8 місяців тому +5

    700 to 1000 dollars + GPU testing at medium settings and FSR balanced is basically a joke in the name of benchmarks. You guys shud leave your job. i didnt expected this from you in consecutive videos

    • @retrosean199
      @retrosean199 8 місяців тому +12

      First off, the card isn't $1000, it's $550. Second, in Cyberpunk, these cards can't run max RT at 4K, you'd get 15 fps. Third, even if you turn on upscaling you can't get much more than 30 fps, so it's very much a no-go. But go ahead and keep yelling at clouds.

    • @dvxAznxvb
      @dvxAznxvb 8 місяців тому +1

      @@retrosean199i agree with most of what your direction of comments are going; i don’t believe 4k is ideal in many cases; resolution output really kills performance in many cards this generation even in raster
      would suggest most people to not have 4k as their target for now until 4k high hz is more mainstream

    • @hbdude155
      @hbdude155 8 місяців тому

      Calm down

    • @Vegemeister1
      @Vegemeister1 8 місяців тому

      If anything it's the exact opposite. This card would easily handle high 4k with one tick of upscaling, which is being hidden by the decision to run all the raster tests at native res max settings. The RT tests are the only ones run at a perf/quality tradeoff that knowledgeable users would actually choose.

    • @CaptainScorpio24
      @CaptainScorpio24 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Vegemeister1 all i can sense that the benchmarks are managed and conducted in favor of AMD. obviously Nvidia won't b paying them for the sponsor so why not becum a amd shill 😅

  • @VideogamesAsArt
    @VideogamesAsArt 6 місяців тому

    Please stop printing paper every gpu review. that is so environmentally unfriendly. "Don't you guys have phones?" as blizzard said. you can see these on your phone or laptops

    • @B-26354
      @B-26354 3 місяці тому +1

      🙄