😂😂 yes he’s an exhausting player to play. He can develop enough of his own pace to not be considered a pusher but he is rarely offensive minded. He puts his effort into maintaining a neutral ball which makes it tough to attack without a little risk. Attacking is the way to beat him but you also don’t want to miss because that is he wants you to do lol
@@MichaelSienkiewicz I agreee I played him the first round and lost to him. I was intrigued by his game to come back to see and film the finals! He is fun to watch and there's a lot to learn from his mindset
some of the best defensive playing ive seen. this is the kinda guy after 3 games, i would make him run right and left non stop. nothing else would really work because he defensively returned everything.
Very hard to hit through him. Utilizing the whole court would definitely be more effective! Easier said than done but I also think that’s the game plan!
smart, i agree this would be the best tactic. if you can't blast through them then you have to wear them down. take aggressive cuts at the ball, but not too much that you miss. i think Will just went a little too far into unforced error territory. Freddie kept his depth up and Will pulled the trigger too early most of the time
Dude crazy that I came across this channel, haven’t seen you since college but I’m going to subscribe cause I love the videos and it’s a crazy coincidence haha. Miss those table tennis matches we use to have
That’s awesome! I do remember you! And those table tennis matches in the game room haha I lived there. ETBU felt so long ago now and it was such a short time span for me but I wanted to play tennis and the team was kind of full lol
Here is some feedback on Freddie's serve 1. He is opening up his body too early and moving his right foot past left foot, it seems like he's trying to do a pinpoint stance, which fine, but there is no coil on the serve 2. The toss should be at 12 O'clock, which would force his right foot the be behind left foot and allow him to coil and uncoil, which helps with power. 3. He needs to keep the arm all the way up on the toss. The left arm drops too early 4. His contact was a little too early and I suspect that's because he felt like his were in a rush to hit the ball, so maybe a slightly higher toss to have more time for his swing.
That's the problem with baseline playing. Tennis court is not that wide, trying to go side to side from way back mostly produced errors. A reminder that we all need to play with depth more. Glad to see some approach and volleys.
Will plays tennis just like i do! i am very happy to see somebody with a similar playstyle. could you please ask Will what racket is he using? i am playing with a blade v8 16x19, modified with 15g in the buttcap, highly suggest it for him to try it out!
Yeah he is capable of playing really high level tennis. I’ve seen it, but he will buckle against guys that’s hard to hit through. He could add a little more spin and angle to his shots. A lot of his balls frequently flatten out which takes away from the angle he can hit. His approach to volley sequence can be worked on some. He can do either of those shots, but putting them together in a sequence is the hard part for most players, but if he could become more comfortable in that sequence of shots he would be a stronger player for sure. His baseline game is there and it will set up that sequence, he just needs to work on consistently using his approach shot to be good enough to have the easy volley winner
Yeah he is capable of playing really high level tennis. I’ve seen it, but he will buckle against guys that’s hard to hit through. He could add a little more spin and angle to his shots. A lot of his balls frequently flatten out which takes away from the angle he can hit. His approach to volley sequence can be worked on some. He can do either of those shots, but putting them together in a sequence is the hard part for most players, but if he could become more comfortable in that sequence of shots he would be a stronger player for sure. His baseline game is there and it will set up that sequence, he just needs to work on consistently using his approach shot to be good enough to have the easy volley winner
@@unlimitedtennis I currently play at Belmont Abbey (D2) and I am a 12 utr but trust in college in don't mean anything, and I was always told the difference between D2 and how ur fella plays vs a higher d1 to pro is moving into the court, u can make as many balls as u want but as long as ur moving into the courts after every ball especially if u see ur opponent step back u will find a lot more success. there were many balls where the 9 would step back into the court to prepare for the ball and like u said the kid has a nice baseline game so if he moves up takes more time away and learn that being aggressive isn't how hard you hit the ball but where u are standing on the court, but thats the only thing I would add in addition to your summary. I was taught to imagine u have a string attached to u and ur opponent if he moves back u move forward and take that time away from him, use his lack of quality to punish him and of course scream ur ass off after every point.
@@MostLikedComment123 I think that is really good feedback and I appreciate your presence and experience in the comment section. Definitely makes us all better for those who read. You gotta be playing for a really high level D2 team as a UTR 12. A lot of D1 teams struggle to fill their rosters with only 12 and ups.
Freddie's fh seems very difficult to read as he tends to hit it closer to the body, or later in the swing path/timing. He doesn't hit it in front of him that much. Will's fh has a lot of action and pop, but I found that the clipped take-back and lag-snap path dropped the ball short a lot. He hit a number of fh's in the service box and lacked some depth.
@@kingtrawal Only a UTR 6 in my old age, but I got conned into playing the weaker of the 2 open tournaments at my home club about 5 years ago when I was a UTR 7 and faced an unseeded player in the 1st round who was a UTR 12 and played for UCLA. The stronger of the 2 tournaments has been won by Marcos Giron, et al. Down where I am now the local open was won by a UTR 13 who beat a UTR 11 in the finals.
@@speedymr I agree the white tshirt is a UTR 9 but his play style would give a UTR 5 some opportunities but the blue T-shirt’s ball is too heavy and too much pressure for a UTR 5
Man I would hate playing Freddie lol. Guy does not miss a ball and makes you do all the work
😂😂 yes he’s an exhausting player to play. He can develop enough of his own pace to not be considered a pusher but he is rarely offensive minded. He puts his effort into maintaining a neutral ball which makes it tough to attack without a little risk. Attacking is the way to beat him but you also don’t want to miss because that is he wants you to do lol
@@unlimitedtennis He had some offense in addition to relentless D. V solid player
@@MichaelSienkiewicz I agreee I played him the first round and lost to him. I was intrigued by his game to come back to see and film the finals! He is fun to watch and there's a lot to learn from his mindset
trust there a lot easier u gotta have the right mindset, unless of course consistency is ur struggle rather than hitting through him
some of the best defensive playing ive seen. this is the kinda guy after 3 games, i would make him run right and left non stop. nothing else would really work because he defensively returned everything.
Very hard to hit through him. Utilizing the whole court would definitely be more effective! Easier said than done but I also think that’s the game plan!
smart, i agree this would be the best tactic. if you can't blast through them then you have to wear them down. take aggressive cuts at the ball, but not too much that you miss. i think Will just went a little too far into unforced error territory. Freddie kept his depth up and Will pulled the trigger too early most of the time
Dude crazy that I came across this channel, haven’t seen you since college but I’m going to subscribe cause I love the videos and it’s a crazy coincidence haha. Miss those table tennis matches we use to have
That’s awesome! I do remember you! And those table tennis matches in the game room haha I lived there. ETBU felt so long ago now and it was such a short time span for me but I wanted to play tennis and the team was kind of full lol
Here is some feedback on Freddie's serve
1. He is opening up his body too early and moving his right foot past left foot, it seems like he's trying to do a pinpoint stance, which fine, but there is no coil on the serve
2. The toss should be at 12 O'clock, which would force his right foot the be behind left foot and allow him to coil and uncoil, which helps with power.
3. He needs to keep the arm all the way up on the toss. The left arm drops too early
4. His contact was a little too early and I suspect that's because he felt like his were in a rush to hit the ball, so maybe a slightly higher toss to have more time for his swing.
3:50 the ball was so out
That's the problem with baseline playing. Tennis court is not that wide, trying to go side to side from way back mostly produced errors. A reminder that we all need to play with depth more. Glad to see some approach and volleys.
Will plays tennis just like i do! i am very happy to see somebody with a similar playstyle. could you please ask Will what racket is he using? i am playing with a blade v8 16x19, modified with 15g in the buttcap, highly suggest it for him to try it out!
Love to see two odac heavy weights battling it out
I understand why the guy might be stuck at an 8 reminds me of most d2 players in the way they play but of course their quality is much higher
Yeah he is capable of playing really high level tennis. I’ve seen it, but he will buckle against guys that’s hard to hit through. He could add a little more spin and angle to his shots. A lot of his balls frequently flatten out which takes away from the angle he can hit. His approach to volley sequence can be worked on some. He can do either of those shots, but putting them together in a sequence is the hard part for most players, but if he could become more comfortable in that sequence of shots he would be a stronger player for sure. His baseline game is there and it will set up that sequence, he just needs to work on consistently using his approach shot to be good enough to have the easy volley winner
Yeah he is capable of playing really high level tennis. I’ve seen it, but he will buckle against guys that’s hard to hit through. He could add a little more spin and angle to his shots. A lot of his balls frequently flatten out which takes away from the angle he can hit. His approach to volley sequence can be worked on some. He can do either of those shots, but putting them together in a sequence is the hard part for most players, but if he could become more comfortable in that sequence of shots he would be a stronger player for sure. His baseline game is there and it will set up that sequence, he just needs to work on consistently using his approach shot to be good enough to have the easy volley winner
@@unlimitedtennis I currently play at Belmont Abbey (D2) and I am a 12 utr but trust in college in don't mean anything, and I was always told the difference between D2 and how ur fella plays vs a higher d1 to pro is moving into the court, u can make as many balls as u want but as long as ur moving into the courts after every ball especially if u see ur opponent step back u will find a lot more success. there were many balls where the 9 would step back into the court to prepare for the ball and like u said the kid has a nice baseline game so if he moves up takes more time away and learn that being aggressive isn't how hard you hit the ball but where u are standing on the court, but thats the only thing I would add in addition to your summary. I was taught to imagine u have a string attached to u and ur opponent if he moves back u move forward and take that time away from him, use his lack of quality to punish him and of course scream ur ass off after every point.
@@MostLikedComment123 I think that is really good feedback and I appreciate your presence and experience in the comment section. Definitely makes us all better for those who read. You gotta be playing for a really high level D2 team as a UTR 12. A lot of D1 teams struggle to fill their rosters with only 12 and ups.
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Freddie's fh seems very difficult to read as he tends to hit it closer to the body, or later in the swing path/timing. He doesn't hit it in front of him that much.
Will's fh has a lot of action and pop, but I found that the clipped take-back and lag-snap path dropped the ball short a lot. He hit a number of fh's in the service box and lacked some depth.
I play Will a lot! And I agree his balls dips too quick often. While Freddie isn’t near as threatening his ball is more consistently deep
Will doesn't know how to slice, Freddie figured that out quickly.
how old r these ppl, is this a junior tournament?
They are about 25
Amazing the difference in Opens. These guys are out in the first round where I live.
Where? in in your mommy's basement?
@@kingtrawal SoCal
@@marktace1 how would you know? you're a UTR 4 at best
@@kingtrawal Only a UTR 6 in my old age, but I got conned into playing the weaker of the 2 open tournaments at my home club about 5 years ago when I was a UTR 7 and faced an unseeded player in the 1st round who was a UTR 12 and played for UCLA. The stronger of the 2 tournaments has been won by Marcos Giron, et al. Down where I am now the local open was won by a UTR 13 who beat a UTR 11 in the finals.
@@marktace1 exactly. so bro... don't talk about shit you know nothing about. it's always the crappy players that talk all the shit online LOL.
Will too generous on line calls
Pro tip: The red part is out. Lol
Will is the most generous like caller haha he’ll give a few like every match 😅
That court needs a hose down
pretty sure Will needs a bigger swing on his serve 😅
the modern forehand is hard to watch.
That guy Freddie is a hell of a grinder. Maybe Will should try and play up to the net more frequently.
I agree!!
Will didn't know how to chip and charge. He could have sliced his way into easy points at the net
Freddy is beast
Yes he is 🔥😂
White shirt is a low budget Gilles Simon.
USTA Open Finals… UTR ranks lol
will has nothing just a pusher
Bros forehand is western as shit😊
Weak serves, and terrible short ball play. Are these players really utr 8 and 9???
how the fuck is this freddie guy an 8
Freddie janky AF
Both are so bad tennis players
i dont think this guy in blue shirt understands how the game works...
will is not even a utr 9
to be honest, they play like utr 5's
Lol maybe I don’t know I guess it doesn’t matter how they play against each other but they both would easily double bagel 5s
There is no way UTR 5s hit like that lol. Especially blue t-shirt can destroy UTR 5s very very easy.
@@speedymr I agree the white tshirt is a UTR 9 but his play style would give a UTR 5 some opportunities but the blue T-shirt’s ball is too heavy and too much pressure for a UTR 5
I’m a UTR 7. These guys could easily beat me
chill
i would literally beat them with my opposite hand
Let’s make it happen! I’m down for the content!
Youre not that guy pal
Put up or shut up Daniel
You wish
He has good footwork, nice split steps but the technique is horrendous hahah