Mama Cass was treated heartbreakingly bad by the industry, and even by her friends and band mates. When she finally went solo, she started getting her flowers but never what she deserved. Her voice literally MADE California Dreaming the S-tier song it is. She was a kind, talented, extremely funny, tormented soul that we lost to soon. ❤
If she was a tormented soul (had depression?) it kinda doesn't matter how talented or funny you may be. If one carries around a Debbie Downer state of find or carries around a dark cloud of depression, some people don't want to be around people like that. She may just not have been "attractive" enough for the Hollywood or music scene of the day. I think Janice Joplin may have had similar problems of attraction.
@@john4226 I suppose there is a possibility you could be right, but with my memories of these two women, especially, I would have to disagree with you. They were well loved and liked by a great many, just not the ones in power over them. Being strong and independent sometimes has a negative effect. That’s even before taking into consideration the jealousy? of their talent.
Mama Cass was a Svengali of sorts, throwing the best parties in Laurel Canyon and introducing musicians to each other who she thought could work together. She lintroduced Graham Nash to C & S at one of her bashes, and CSN was born.
Wow, that's so intriguing, she made CSN come about?! She shines! i've always loved her music, but this fact is awesome! Not to take away from her but I hope A & A will do CSN's "Cathedral" someday....goosebumps await!
she’s one of the saddest stories in music. the rest of the mamas and the papas and pretty much everyone around her treated her like complete crap, despite the fact she was BY FAR the most talented member of the group
the guy who recently wrote a book about the groups history i saw met him.im the record store article said something like the label didnt want her to begin with another gal forget who they wanted im the group michelle phillips same was treated unfairly by the guys and label wanted her out but when became popular ooh she can stay for now uncut mag.michelle said cass was treated unfairly meant to say
Michelle was treated like a god and slept with both men in the group. She was mean to Cass. Her husband raped and drugged his daughter and Michelle called Mackenzie a liar. Evil.
To the Laurel Canyon music community of the early to mid seventies, Cass Elliot was the maternal/sisterly presence that held it together. Her home was the communal center point from which the creative outpouring of these geniuses created the soundtrack to an era.
omg, the story of David taking charge of Joni’s first studio recording was just horrendous. He conned her into thinking he knew what he was doing as an engineer (while also coupling up with her) when in fact was he was totally faking it. Apparently the original recording turned out to have a buzzing noise that Crosby didn’t know how to eliminate, but they ran with it anyway and really pissed Joni off. It was a total botch job. Thank goodness the problem was solved later when it was remastered.
1960’s - 1970’s. The days when if you had access to a transistor radio, AM radio was all you needed. I have been blessed at my age (66 in June) to have heard so many talented artists. It was just anytime you turned on the radio. If you had a radio you were in Heaven.
I got a transistor radio for my 13th birthday (also in June). My mother had to physically remove the radio (& plug-in ear bud) from me at dinner. That entire summer I went nowhere without that radio. What little money I made babysitting went to buying new batteries. So grateful I lived during more simple times.
@@mickell241 I would put my radio under my pillow since I didn’t have an earpiece. Every night Mon-Fri "Jack E. Rabbit" was the DJ on WABB 1480 AM, the local rock station from 8:00 till 12:00 midnight. I would listen for his sign off every night. "Peace be with you. We love you brother. Bye bye baby!" My day was never complete without hearing that.
This song was introduced to a whole new generation when it was memorably used in the S2 premiere of LOST. "See ya in another life, brotha" Fantastic track.
@@lauraallen55 Ya. Nut I bought their albums for her voice. I recently watched a video on how she was bullied in the group. Don't know if it was biased in any way.
I know that John Phillips didn't want her in the band, and I think he was mainly the one who mistreated her. I think the others probably just didn't speak up on her behalf when he did. This is just based on little things I've read over the years.@@RJ-nz5jn
@@mobanewman7139 I live in Florida now, but I'll always think fondly of my home state of California. It's definitely not as great a place as it was when I was a kid in the 60s and 70s (best state in the country then and I can say that with certainty), but it's still a beautiful place.
'Even if nobody else sings along', is a declaration fairly unique to the late 60s and early 70s, a declaration that this is the sort freedom that we really should have, even if it is contradicted by our everyday experience; we should break through that to a better life. To be honest, it was more feasible those days because it was easier to live cheaply and do what you wanted and explore life, however, it 's an idea that shouldnt be lost sight of.
That one bridge towards the end ... "So if you cannot take my hand, and if you must be going, I will understand" ... hits hard, and also speaks to her own personal loneliness, and the loneliness of her vision and her career.
Nice review A+A! While you are in the general vicinity, I hope you cover Petula Clark's Downtown and Lulu's To Sir, With Love. Both hit #1 in the mid 60s.
Agree - two of the best pop songs of the 60s. If your post was meant to highlight iconic songs from female artists of the period, I'd add "These Boots are Made for Walkin'" by Nancy Sinatra and "You Don't Own Me" by Leslie Gore.
A&A, - you'll love her "Move In A Little Closer, Baby” and "It's Getting Better"!!! They are relatively short songs, so do them both together!!!! She was the star voice of The Mamas & The Papas, although Denny Doherty had a very good voice too! edit - when you get back to Mamas&Papas, check out their "Go Where You Wanna Go" and "Creeque Alley" !! "Creeque Alley" is about how they became a group. Todays song written by legends Barry Mann/Cynthia Weil.
So glad you both enjoyed this one. Cass Elliot is a beautiful person both inside and out. A voice you can fall in love with from the word go. Thanks for the reminder.
What a nice little treat - I remember hearing this song on the radio growing up. Of course, the lyrics are so much more meaningful today. Love this message, definitely words to live your life by.
I think the difference is that "Dream a Little Dream of Me" was actually recorded for a The Mamas & the Papas album, even though Cass is the only singer on it. Apparently (I had to look this up just now), because the Ms&Ps were on the verge of disbanding, so (this is according to Wikipedia anyway), the Dunhill label released the song as a single credited to "Mama Cass with the Mamas & the Papas", in hopes of promoting her upcoming solo career. And then, apparently, a slightly different version was included on her first solo album. At any rate, that's why they didn't clock it as a solo Mama Cass song -- because it wasn't quite, originally.
It does; and that's because it was recorded by the Mamas & the Papas in 1968, for one of their albums. The 1973 date I can't quite figure out; that's what Spotify lists as the date of the song, I just can't figure out WHY. It really does fit in very well with the style of a lot of other Ms&Ps music.
@@irishgrl You know what, thank you -- I got my details all tangled up thanks to another reply I'd just written. This song is indeed Cass Elliot's solo music. (But the guys' date of 1973 is still wrong; it was recorded in 1969. The wrong date IS from Spotify, but I can't figure out why Spotify used that date.) The other song is "Dream a Little Dream of Me", which I'd just written about in another reply; that's what I was thinking of when I said she had first recorded it with the Mamas & the Papas in 1968; but it later appeared on one of her solo records. The person I was replying to was wondering why the guys seemed to be reacting to THIS song as the first time they were hearing a solo piece by Cass Elliot, when they had hit a solo song by her before (that song being "Dream a Little Dream of Me"). When they reacted to it, they listed it and talked about it as a The Mamas & the Papas song, not a Cass Elliot solo song. And, that is somewhat correct -- that song was first recorded by the Ms&Ps in 1968; but another version later appeared on one of Cass's solo records. I don't know which version was the one they reacted to.
@@gryphonvert wow, you did a deep dive on that! I myself think Cass was the heart & soul of that group, but I never got into her solo stuff myself…I liked the extra harmonies that the group brought. And even though Michelle wasn’t a powerhouse like Cass, she still added that touch of sweetness Cass didn’t have.
Yeah, it's weird -- apparently it's Spotify that lists it as 1973. I wonder why? It even goes out of its way to say "September 28, 1973". Was it re-released on a compilation album at that time or something??? Anyway, yes, it's absolutely 1969 -- and it's an *incredibly* 60s style song; it feels like it fits right in with the Mamas & the Papas oeuvre. After they said 1973 here, I was listening to it (it's fun to try to listen to these songs again with "new" ears, to try to think about how the guys are hearing it) and just thinking, "well, it SOUNDS like classic mid/late-60s"; I feel like it doesn't sound like the other stuff of the early 70s at all. (Trying to look into it further... the only thing I can find that might explain Spotify's mistake is that in 1973, Barbra Streisand included the song on her album "Barbra Streisand... and Other Musical Instruments", as a medley with another song. But that album appears to have been released on Nov. 2, 1973, so I still don't know where Spotify got that very exact date)
@@gryphonvert after they said 1973 here, I went to the comments for a little explanation. I knew it wasn't 73, thought it was 60s. Thanks - -didn't want to google it :)
I love this song, I grew up listening to it on my AM radio. Its about loving someone enough to encourage them to do their own thing. My daughter always marched to her own drummer, next week she graduates from college and starts her job in cyber security. You are right about girls in stem, but she really had a great experience in college. This song expresses perfectly how I feel right now, watching her grow and being herself. So proud of her!
The song was written by Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil. To put their contribution to music into perspective. If you guys did a weekly show of just their songs that they wrote together that were hits it would be a 2-year long show. If you did a show of all their songs written separately and or with other people and songs written together that weren't hits but good, you probably have a 15-year long show.
Forever linked to the series “Lost” This was the song playing in the hatch when we first saw Desmond on the island. Awesome track for that particular scene, I don’t know why, but it just worked.
I'm probably pretty similar to many of your other subscribers in that I'm about a generation and a half older than you and have trouble finding the words to express how great it is to see the look on your faces reacting to this Kind of Music (see what I did there? : -). Just makes my day and I'm sure does the same for a lot of others. Thank you fellas!
Catch the SNL skit about this song inexplicably being played during fight scenes in movies. Chloe Troast is great at impersonating her. It's the recent one Emma Stone hosted.
It’s her voice! It’s so soothing to me. Maybe because it resonates with my childhood. 🤔 Unique power in her voice. Hit up “Dream a Little Dream of Me “ another Cass Elliot solo! That song will break your hearts.
Late 70s, music was transitioning a bit. Disco was hugely popular. Rock was also diminishing a bit (hair bands were coming in) Very thankful for Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers during the late 70s and the 59 years that followed
A cool pure pop song that sounds so pure, from the early 70s. Used in the LGBT movie called a Beautiful Thing and there was a summer variety show named after that song in ,1971
I am a hard rocker. When I heard this song on LOST tv show, my rock band covered in immediately. Power chords, Marshalls, but we couldn’t make it rock as hard as the original. Alex was feeling it building up to the second chorus.
Cass Elliot and Dave Mason did an album together that has some great tunes on it and doesn't get nearly enough love, people either don't know about it or have completely forgotten about it. It's here on UA-cam, look up "Too Much Truth, Too much Love" or "Something To Make You Happy".
Mama Cass (real name Ellen Naomi Cohen) is featured prominently on the soundtrack of the really sweet British film "Beautiful Thing." There was a rumor at the time of her death (at age 32) that she died while choking on a ham sandwich. (It was a heart attack.) She died in London in Harry Nilsson's guest bedroom. Chillingly, Keith Moon died in the same bedroom four years later, also at age 32!
Mama Cass was THE boss. Musicians all wanted her attention and acceptance because she would be the connection and push to get their careers moving. She knew how to put certain musicians with other musicians to make awesome sounds.
I was 6 yrs old when this came out, my mom sang it and I loved singing it as a 6 yr old too, it was a big hit, even at my young age it was not lost on me why Cass singing it meant so much, Alex hit it on the head
You guys did a great job on this one. This is one of my favorite songs ever. It was used in the climactic scene of the movie Beautiful Thing. It fits the story so perfectly.
I applaud both of you for sampling a wide variety of music! If you want a broad knowledge of music as I assume you do, it is absolutely essential to continue along all genres. I enjoy you two immensely.
Every time I think I've got your musical tastes pegged you surprise me. I love this song but I didn't think you would. Also, I strongly agree that this song is not about making music as much as it is a metaphor for expressing your uniqueness and being true to yourself.
Mama Cass was treated heartbreakingly bad by the industry,
and even by her friends and band mates. When she finally
went solo, she started getting her flowers but never what she
deserved. Her voice literally MADE California Dreaming the
S-tier song it is. She was a kind, talented, extremely funny,
tormented soul that we lost to soon. ❤
yes was telling other viewer uncur i get every month had ariticle michelle philips she was treated unfsirly but the guyscand the label.
@@marktait2371 My thoughts exactly…
Perfectly said ❤
If she was a tormented soul (had depression?) it kinda doesn't matter how talented or funny you may be. If one carries around a Debbie Downer state of find or carries around a dark cloud of depression, some people don't want to be around people like that. She may just not have been "attractive" enough for the Hollywood or music scene of the day. I think Janice Joplin may have had similar problems of attraction.
@@john4226 I suppose there is a possibility you could be right, but
with my memories of these two women, especially, I would have to
disagree with you. They were well loved and liked by a great many,
just not the ones in power over them. Being strong and independent
sometimes has a negative effect. That’s even before taking into
consideration the jealousy? of their talent.
I absolutely adore Cass Elliot. She deserved to be treated far better than she was.
DREAM A LITTLE DREAM,
Baby I’m Yours.
Two of her biggest hits.
📻🙂
They did Dream a while back
Good Times Are Coming
Dedicated to the One I Love
Yes, dream a little dream!
i LOVE baby im yours
It sounds so good cause it's THE WRECKING CREW
they sing just like her!!😎
Mama Cass was a Svengali of sorts, throwing the best parties in Laurel Canyon and introducing musicians to each other who she thought could work together. She lintroduced Graham Nash to C & S at one of her bashes, and CSN was born.
How come no one invited me???
yes had story sbout a few months sgo uncut.
@@Michael-xk3sp I'm afraid neither you or I are cool enough for that group.
Wow, that's so intriguing, she made CSN come about?! She shines! i've always loved her music, but this fact is awesome! Not to take away from her but I hope A & A will do CSN's "Cathedral" someday....goosebumps await!
she’s one of the saddest stories in music. the rest of the mamas and the papas and pretty much everyone around her treated her like complete crap, despite the fact she was BY FAR the most talented member of the group
the guy who recently wrote a book about the groups history i saw met him.im the record store article said something like the label didnt want her to begin with another gal forget who they wanted im the group michelle phillips same was treated unfairly by the guys and label wanted her out but when became popular ooh she can stay for now uncut mag.michelle said cass was treated unfairly meant to say
What in the hell did you just say?
Michelle was treated like a god and slept with both men in the group. She was mean to Cass. Her husband raped and drugged his daughter and Michelle called Mackenzie a liar. Evil.
😂
@@marktait2371 again, my thoughts exactly…
If you haven't already hit it, "I Saw Her Again Last Night" is a great Mamas & Papas song.
One of my favorites ❤
Dream a little Dream by Cass ❤️❤️❤️ great song ✌️😎❤️
absolutely!
👍🤠 “Leaving on a Jet Plane” John Denver & Mama Cass is really really good
The get out to vote that she was endorsing still rings true. Her song, but Denver sings lead with her on chorus. Great live performance.
@@danno7466 pretty sure John Denver wrote it
Yes. John Denver wrote it and it was Peter, Paul and Mary had a big hit with it
Absolutely correct. Thanks for that setting that straight. Don’t know what I was thinking there.
I always thought it was so cool how when this was on the radio, everybody would always sing along to the line "Even if nobody else sings along."
To the Laurel Canyon music community of the early to mid seventies, Cass Elliot was the maternal/sisterly presence that held it together. Her home was the communal center point from which the creative outpouring of these geniuses created the soundtrack to an era.
In 1967 David Crosby was producing Joni Mitchell’s first album. Musicians started to move into Laurel Canyon a bit earlier than you stated.
omg, the story of David taking charge of Joni’s first studio recording was just horrendous. He conned her into thinking he knew what he was doing as an engineer (while also coupling up with her) when in fact was he was totally faking it. Apparently the original recording turned out to have a buzzing noise that Crosby didn’t know how to eliminate, but they ran with it anyway and really pissed Joni off. It was a total botch job. Thank goodness the problem was solved later when it was remastered.
Mama Cass was an incredible vocalist and the we lost her far too soon. Make Your Own Kind of Music is such a testament to her power as a singer.
1960’s - 1970’s. The days when if you had access to a transistor radio, AM radio was all you needed. I have been blessed at my age (66 in June) to have heard so many talented artists. It was just anytime you turned on the radio. If you had a radio you were in Heaven.
So true. I'm 65 and the 70's were especially great. Too many bands to keep track of. And Mama Cass's voice was top tier. Gone too soon.
AM radio in my 64 GTO ..
I got a transistor radio for my 13th birthday (also in June). My mother had to physically remove the radio (& plug-in ear bud) from me at dinner. That entire summer I went nowhere without that radio. What little money I made babysitting went to buying new batteries. So grateful I lived during more simple times.
i had an earphone for my transistor and at midnight i would listen to wolfman jack. those were the days... ha ha
@@mickell241 I would put my radio under my pillow since I didn’t have an earpiece. Every night Mon-Fri "Jack E. Rabbit" was the DJ on WABB 1480 AM, the local rock station from 8:00 till 12:00 midnight. I would listen for his sign off every night. "Peace be with you. We love you brother. Bye bye baby!" My day was never complete without hearing that.
This song was introduced to a whole new generation when it was memorably used in the S2 premiere of LOST.
"See ya in another life, brotha"
Fantastic track.
came here to say this
Do I know you?
@@mcnater same!
There's also an SNL skit (with Emma Stone, but Chloe Troast killing the singing) that is So Good!!!
First thing I thought of too.
She was truly an amazing talent. Words of Love is another great one by her
Voice like melted butter. Best in the group.
Denny had a great voice too, but yeah. They also knew each other before the Mamas and the Papas when they were in another band together.
@@lauraallen55 Ya. Nut I bought their albums for her voice.
I recently watched a video on how she was bullied in the group. Don't know if it was biased in any way.
I know that John Phillips didn't want her in the band, and I think he was mainly the one who mistreated her. I think the others probably just didn't speak up on her behalf when he did. This is just based on little things I've read over the years.@@RJ-nz5jn
"Twelve Thirty (Young Girls Are Coming to the Canyon)" Great Mamas and the Papas song where Cass really shines in the chorus.
THIS is my favorite song. I have heard people refer to it with sadness now because they don't find California to be the same. But yes, the chorus.
@@mobanewman7139 I live in Florida now, but I'll always think fondly of my home state of California. It's definitely not as great a place as it was when I was a kid in the 60s and 70s (best state in the country then and I can say that with certainty), but it's still a beautiful place.
Best Mommas and Papas song
Mama Cass was a force of nature. Gone too soon.
Man, the minute she hit that first chorus the hairs on my arms stood up. Chills! What an incredible voice.
Mama Cass was my mother's favorite!! She passed that love on to me. I sang "Dream a Little Dream" as a lullaby to my kids.
She also does a great duet with John Denver in a live version of "Leaving On A Jet Plane".
Mama Cass was great. Gone too soon. Always liked this song ❤
There's something about the tone of her voice that makes people happy😊
Released in 1969. Great voice and personality.
I Call your Name is another great one
It took everything I had not to sing along with this. (My downstairs neighbor is working.)
Cass Elliot was my idol growing up. She left us too soon!
PS Cass Elliot and Keith Moon (drummer for The Who) both died in the same bedroom of Harry's Nilsson's London apartment (though at separate times).
I first heard this in the TV series "Lost". Brilliant song from an amazing vocalist.
Wow! Haven't heard that in 45 years. Late 60s early 70s boomer music is awesome.
'Even if nobody else sings along', is a declaration fairly unique to the late 60s and early 70s, a declaration that this is the sort freedom that we really should have, even if it is contradicted by our everyday experience; we should break through that to a better life. To be honest, it was more feasible those days because it was easier to live cheaply and do what you wanted and explore life, however, it 's an idea that shouldnt be lost sight of.
That voice. I love that voice.
Guys, I literally teared up watching. Mama Cass could not conceive of two young men in 2024 digging her music. I think she would be so happy. 🥹
Thanks for confirming that the 70s was the best full decade of rock music. Made my day! 😉👍🏼
that song is from 1969
That one bridge towards the end ... "So if you cannot take my hand, and if you must be going, I will understand" ... hits hard, and also speaks to her own personal loneliness, and the loneliness of her vision and her career.
Nice review A+A! While you are in the general vicinity, I hope you cover Petula Clark's Downtown and Lulu's To Sir, With Love. Both hit #1 in the mid 60s.
Agree - two of the best pop songs of the 60s. If your post was meant to highlight iconic songs from female artists of the period, I'd add "These Boots are Made for Walkin'" by Nancy Sinatra and "You Don't Own Me" by Leslie Gore.
funny i was just reading other day story uncut about lulu and david bowie another one that era dusty preacher man
Her reaction to Janis Joplin at Monterrey Pop was priceless.
And luckily caught on film.
"Wow"
She knew what a gift Janis was.
Yes, Cass said Wow, that was heavy.
i love that video
This song was from 1969.
Sounds like Hal Blaine on drums. Look him up. Then watch "The Wrecking Crew" documentary.
Dream a Little Dream next! ❤
They already did Dream a Little Dream a while back 😊
I’m happy I grew up with radio in the 60’s and 70’s. It was a great time to be alive. 🎶
Thank you. We played this at my sister's memorial service. She made her own kind of music.
So sorry for your loss.
A&A, - you'll love her "Move In A Little Closer, Baby” and "It's Getting Better"!!! They are relatively short songs, so do them both together!!!!
She was the star voice of The Mamas & The Papas, although Denny Doherty had a very good voice too!
edit - when you get back to Mamas&Papas, check out their "Go Where You Wanna Go" and "Creeque Alley" !!
"Creeque Alley" is about how they became a group. Todays song written by legends Barry Mann/Cynthia Weil.
So glad you both enjoyed this one. Cass Elliot is a beautiful person both inside and out. A voice you can fall in love with from the word go. Thanks for the reminder.
This song always had me picturing Mary Tyler Moore throwing her hat up in the air
All Things Must Pass came out when I was in college .. Mamas and Papas while in HS .. great music !! She was an exceptional singer !
Mama Cass had a terrific voice. This song is the type of song that would get played on AM radio in the 60’s and 70’s
I think she is backed here by members of the Wrecking Crew
You are correct !! Superb sounds.
@@marktubeie07 pretty much anything related the the Mamas & Papas, including Cass’ solo workhad the wrecking crew backing them.
pretty sure the records have the crew last month i bought a nice copy of 63 record original mono pretty sure crew lots of stars on back credits
yeh ol hal.is on a bunch of old records.few months ago glem.letters from and roger miller at bradleys barn
The Wrecking Crew also worked with The Carpenters.
This is a great song. Her voice was phenomenal, so strong & clear.
she really was the mama of the california sound during the laurel canyon period. great voice sad story. rip mama.
What a nice little treat - I remember hearing this song on the radio growing up. Of course, the lyrics are so much more meaningful today. Love this message, definitely words to live your life by.
Did you guys forget you reacted to her song, "Dream a Little Dream?"
I think the difference is that "Dream a Little Dream of Me" was actually recorded for a The Mamas & the Papas album, even though Cass is the only singer on it. Apparently (I had to look this up just now), because the Ms&Ps were on the verge of disbanding, so (this is according to Wikipedia anyway), the Dunhill label released the song as a single credited to "Mama Cass with the Mamas & the Papas", in hopes of promoting her upcoming solo career. And then, apparently, a slightly different version was included on her first solo album. At any rate, that's why they didn't clock it as a solo Mama Cass song -- because it wasn't quite, originally.
"Twelve-Thirty (Young Girls are Coming to the Canyon)" is my favorite M&P song.
First heard this on the TV show Lost. Great song
I remember it from that as well. One of the 100s of really cool moments in that show.
Oh Holy Cow…….50 years since I’ve heard this song. Moderate radio hit. Mama Cass died the next year at only 32 years old
Good god, I hadn't thought about how young she was when she died for a long, long time. What a loss.
A tragedy her death. So sad. Loved her voice.
High School 71-75 yep the music was great!
74-76 for me 👍
College from 71-75. The music I heard once I got on campus as a Freshman was actually life changing for me
Best music, coolest cars, prettiest girls.
@@jrichard711 muscle cars!
Class of 75.... 100% correct
This song has such a 60s flavor!
It does; and that's because it was recorded by the Mamas & the Papas in 1968, for one of their albums. The 1973 date I can't quite figure out; that's what Spotify lists as the date of the song, I just can't figure out WHY. It really does fit in very well with the style of a lot of other Ms&Ps music.
@@gryphonvert you are mistaken, this is Cass’ solo music
@@irishgrl You know what, thank you -- I got my details all tangled up thanks to another reply I'd just written. This song is indeed Cass Elliot's solo music. (But the guys' date of 1973 is still wrong; it was recorded in 1969. The wrong date IS from Spotify, but I can't figure out why Spotify used that date.)
The other song is "Dream a Little Dream of Me", which I'd just written about in another reply; that's what I was thinking of when I said she had first recorded it with the Mamas & the Papas in 1968; but it later appeared on one of her solo records.
The person I was replying to was wondering why the guys seemed to be reacting to THIS song as the first time they were hearing a solo piece by Cass Elliot, when they had hit a solo song by her before (that song being "Dream a Little Dream of Me"). When they reacted to it, they listed it and talked about it as a The Mamas & the Papas song, not a Cass Elliot solo song. And, that is somewhat correct -- that song was first recorded by the Ms&Ps in 1968; but another version later appeared on one of Cass's solo records. I don't know which version was the one they reacted to.
@@gryphonvert wow, you did a deep dive on that! I myself think Cass was the heart & soul of that group, but I never got into her solo stuff myself…I liked the extra harmonies that the group brought. And even though Michelle wasn’t a powerhouse like Cass, she still added that touch of sweetness Cass didn’t have.
Gorgeous voice. ❤❤❤
I hear banjo too now that Alex pointed it out. Very cool song and message.
There is an irony to this song in the sense that you can't avoid singing along with her.
Words of Love is a must listen when it comes to Mama Cass.
This is 1969! Sounding nothing like America but has a smooth MOR production with a tight orchestral feel! LOVE it!
Yeah, it's weird -- apparently it's Spotify that lists it as 1973. I wonder why? It even goes out of its way to say "September 28, 1973". Was it re-released on a compilation album at that time or something??? Anyway, yes, it's absolutely 1969 -- and it's an *incredibly* 60s style song; it feels like it fits right in with the Mamas & the Papas oeuvre. After they said 1973 here, I was listening to it (it's fun to try to listen to these songs again with "new" ears, to try to think about how the guys are hearing it) and just thinking, "well, it SOUNDS like classic mid/late-60s"; I feel like it doesn't sound like the other stuff of the early 70s at all.
(Trying to look into it further... the only thing I can find that might explain Spotify's mistake is that in 1973, Barbra Streisand included the song on her album "Barbra Streisand... and Other Musical Instruments", as a medley with another song. But that album appears to have been released on Nov. 2, 1973, so I still don't know where Spotify got that very exact date)
@@gryphonvert after they said 1973 here, I went to the comments for a little explanation. I knew it wasn't 73, thought it was 60s. Thanks - -didn't want to google it :)
I love this song, I grew up listening to it on my AM radio. Its about loving someone enough to encourage them to do their own thing. My daughter always marched to her own drummer, next week she graduates from college and starts her job in cyber security. You are right about girls in stem, but she really had a great experience in college. This song expresses perfectly how I feel right now, watching her grow and being herself. So proud of her!
The song was written by Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil. To put their contribution to music into perspective. If you guys did a weekly show of just their songs that they wrote together that were hits it would be a 2-year long show. If you did a show of all their songs written separately and or with other people and songs written together that weren't hits but good, you probably have a 15-year long show.
Yes late 60s to late 70s was a wild time. Musical variety galore.
Forever linked to the series “Lost”
This was the song playing in the hatch when we first saw Desmond on the island. Awesome track for that particular scene, I don’t know why, but it just worked.
Great message that still applies (of course!).
I'm probably pretty similar to many of your other subscribers in that I'm about a generation and a half older than you and have trouble finding the words to express how great it is to see the look on your faces reacting to this Kind of Music (see what I did there? : -). Just makes my day and I'm sure does the same for a lot of others. Thank you fellas!
Catch the SNL skit about this song inexplicably being played during fight scenes in movies. Chloe Troast is great at impersonating her. It's the recent one Emma Stone hosted.
She did a duet w/ John Denver on "Leaving on a Jet Plane" Absolutely beautiful.
LOVE the shirt Alex! Mama Cass, great voice.
It’s her voice! It’s so soothing to me. Maybe because it resonates with my childhood. 🤔 Unique power in her voice. Hit up “Dream a Little Dream of Me “ another Cass Elliot solo! That song will break your hearts.
Hate to break it to you, but the late 70's and disco has some cool stuff as well.
Late 70s, music was transitioning a bit. Disco was hugely popular. Rock was also diminishing a bit (hair bands were coming in) Very thankful for Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers during the late 70s and the 59 years that followed
A cool pure pop song that sounds so pure, from the early 70s. Used in the LGBT movie called a Beautiful Thing and there was a summer variety show named after that song in ,1971
I am a hard rocker. When I heard this song on LOST tv show, my rock band covered in immediately. Power chords, Marshalls, but we couldn’t make it rock as hard as the original. Alex was feeling it building up to the second chorus.
Cass Elliot and Dave Mason did an album together that has some great tunes on it and doesn't get nearly enough love, people either don't know about it or have completely forgotten about it. It's here on UA-cam, look up "Too Much Truth, Too much Love" or "Something To Make You Happy".
Positive, soulful song with a message . Very good!!! I wish it was 2min longer .
A song that is so relevant today. EVERYONE should be listening to this song every day of their lives!...
"It's Getting Better." I got that 45 for Christmas when I was a kid in the 70's. Still have it! She has that Mary Tyler Moore theme song vibe for me.
Such a lovely voice💖💎💫
Thanks for doing this one lads , it's one of my faves !😁👍
Mama Cass (real name Ellen Naomi Cohen) is featured prominently on the soundtrack of the really sweet British film "Beautiful Thing." There was a rumor at the time of her death (at age 32) that she died while choking on a ham sandwich. (It was a heart attack.) She died in London in Harry Nilsson's guest bedroom. Chillingly, Keith Moon died in the same bedroom four years later, also at age 32!
My favorite Mama !
GOOOOOOOOD MORNING A&A FAMILY!!! ☮️💟♾️
Reminds me of LOST
First thing I thought too!
I was looking for this!
Yaeeeee 🎉🎉🎉!! So glad yall loved it!! ❤❤❤
Mama Cass was THE boss. Musicians all wanted her attention and acceptance because she would be the connection and push to get their careers moving. She knew how to put certain musicians with other musicians to make awesome sounds.
I was 6 yrs old when this came out, my mom sang it and I loved singing it as a 6 yr old too, it was a big hit, even at my young age it was not lost on me why Cass singing it meant so much, Alex hit it on the head
She had a tv special called don’t call me mama no more.
Cass Elliot was in a folk group called The Big Three even before The Mamas and The Papas. You can find a video on UA-cam if you do a little hunting.
Cass was also in a group called The Mugwumps before the Mamas and the Papas - with Denny Doherty!
Percussion and fantastic drum fills by Hal Blaine, the drummer with more hits than anyone.
Creeque Alley
Bet shes singing in heaven, making the angels jealous.
what a sweetheart, right? !!!
It's from 1969. But yeah, amazing song - great reaction!
She had an incredible voice and so unique
You guys did a great job on this one. This is one of my favorite songs ever. It was used in the climactic scene of the movie Beautiful Thing. It fits the story so perfectly.
Wowl been years since I heard that song! Great catchy song
I needed that pick me up song. Made my day! Thank you.
Just great pop music. Nothing deep, but fun to hear again and again. Kind of like "Up Up and Away." Simple, but effective. And so melodic.
I applaud both of you for sampling a wide variety of music! If you want a broad knowledge of music as I assume you do, it is absolutely essential to continue along all genres. I enjoy you two immensely.
Every time I think I've got your musical tastes pegged you surprise me. I love this song but I didn't think you would. Also, I strongly agree that this song is not about making music as much as it is a metaphor for expressing your uniqueness and being true to yourself.
Great reaction. Really enjoyed the comments!