I think depending on the needs/wants of each individual, any option is a good option. Each one of these engines has their advantages and it's nice that Ford offers the different configurations.
My experience has made me a huge proponent of the PowerBoost. My 2017 was the first year of the gen 2 3.5 ecoboost with 10 speed combo, and since I've now had a 2021 PowerBoost for 50k. My lifetime fuel economy over 2 years, 21k on the 3.5 was just over 17 mpg. My PowerBoost has stayed around 21 mpg, which I consider a significant improvement. And now that they are crediting the msrp on all PowerBoost, making it the same price as the 3.5, I think it's a great pick.
@@DH-hp7nv I've really never noticed the deactivation. I'm just glad I didn't get the auto start/stop function. I have a 23 Tremor but surprisingly am getting more like 19 mpg calculated (20 by truck computer over thousands of miles). It doesn't like the wind in the SW though at interstate speeds (more like 15-18 mpg if it is really windy crosswind or headwind, and obviously slowing down a little would help). I think the higher profile is the main issue. On the other hand, it does great (>20+) if it is calm or driving with the wind. Overall, very happy with the truck so far.
@@DH-hp7nv i can hear it from the exhaust but if i didnt hear it I wouldnt notice it at all. Theres no indicator for it that im aware of but it aint like i read the owners manual either lol
I drive a 2021 F-150 with powerboost and 7.2 kW pro power onboard. It is currently in my driveway powering my house. It has been sending power to my house since Hurricane Beryl came through Monday and we wait for power to be returned. My truck has 98,000 miles and runs like the day it was new. Thanks for the comparison. Love my Ford.
I just recently picked up a ‘24 STX 4x4 with the 5.0 and don’t regret it one bit. I don’t care if it’s not the most fuel efficient. I wanted a simple naturally aspirated engine that I feel fairly confident will live a long happy life with minimal issues. I don’t feel that way about anything forced induction. That being said, my 5.0 still knocks down 23-24 mpg cruising down the highway at 73 mph and is the only one that sounds like a truck should.
had a 5.0 crew cab and a 5.0 supercab + a earlier model 2.7 crew cab, for me driving between a 95ft to a little under 1,900ft elevation region that 2.7 impressed really well... I use my trucks for daily + hauling things mainly. Guess it depends what ya need the truck for ... Kool review and ty for getting all these trucks to share with us.
I’ve owned and worked them all and the PB is my personal truck. The 5.0 is my favourite in a work truck and the PB is my favourite in a personal truck; they’re all good. Ben, I don’t think you mentioned the difference in rear gear ratios?
If you pull a camper like me, you want the powerboost with the 7.2KW generator! I can power my camper for a full weekend with A/C in the camper on. And the torque pulling in the mountains is unbeatable. I had a 2021 5.0 and it can’t tow squat in the mountains without revving to the moon.
Test drove a 5.0, powerboost 3.5, and 3.5 EB yesterday. I liked the 5.0 the best. Not even for the sound- I just felt like I could “feel” the car better when driving. Powerboost was a freaking rocket ship though. 3.5 had a weird stutter when I accelerated harder
Amen Brother, I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 161,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
I just ordered a 5.0 "STX" after having both Eco-boosts with no problem with any. I'd definitely wait on any of the EV/Powerboost options until further development and capability. It's surely coming. Like I said--trying the 5.0--my first V-8 since 1982! Then: I'm dropping the Whipple FP700 on it!
I just upgraded from a 2019 3.5 to a 2024 Powerboost. If you do nothing but get on the Powerboost, you will get the gas mileage shown in the video. I do love to get on my Powerboost when needed and it is very torquey! If you drive it normally, you get close to the stated gas mileage. I get 21mpg on the average. I've seen some people get significantly higher if you use the braking coach and drive it with the intent to get the best gas mileage. I don't notice the spooling that is stated (I get immediate response) except the first couple of miles when it is cold; and that has gotten much better with the 2024 vs the 2019. I got a rebate since it is a "hybrid", so it wasn't much of an increase in price over the regular 3.5. I also like the fact that I can use it as a generator if ever needed. I really love my Powerboost.
I just traded my 2019 5.0 for a 2023 Powerboost and there is no comparison. I averaged 16mpg in my 5.0 and I average 22.5 in my powerboost. 35 more HP and 170 more ft lb torque is a massive difference as well.
This. Once you drive the PB a bit you start to get mpg in the 20’s. It takes getting that 1.5kw battery charged up consistently. The biggest Giveaway for me was Ben sitting at the light and the truck was idling. On a typical daily driver you’re 100% on electric at a light. Both great options. Love my V8’s, but PB is definitely an eye opener though…
Engine didn’t turn off because it was cold; it takes very little charging to shut off at a traffic light, it just stays off for a shorter period with a lower charge.
the introduction to this comparison proves the point ive been trying to make for years. a smaller motor is more fuel efficient sitting on a test bench, but when its having to work harder to pull the same truck that the larger v8 motor does with less effort... the end result is identical fuel economy. the only thing they managed to do with these smaller motors is create a more complex engine with more potential failure points. stick with the old tried and true 5.0 V8 or get yourself a diesel.
No 😂 idk what this guy was doing but I have the 3.5 and iv never gotten less then 18 ever so idk what this guy was doing but it’s not a real world test
Ben i wanted a 21 with 5.0 and HDPP. Ended up with a used 2022 Powerboost with 6.5 bed and xlt high and 7.2 kw inverter. Averaged just under 22 mpgs with 90% highway. Powered my house for 1 to 4 days. Never imagined that. If Ford put the 4850 rear axle in this truck it would be darned near perfect for us camping types wanting about 2K payload.
The Powerboost is the most powerful engine in this video and I get 22-25 MPG every trip. Plus, I get the built in generator. It’s an easy choice for me.
I Love an old fashion V 8. But my power boost destroyed a V8 in race from off the line and at 30 miles a hour I average 22 to 23 miles a gallon on my way to work( 30 miles ) it powers my house, tools and no issues deff Best Buy in my opinion
The question is will it outlast the legendary 4.6L SOHC 2V Modular V8 in the Ford Panther Platform (Ford Crownvic, Mercury Grand Marquis, and Lincoln Town Car)? Also why did Ford use the 6.8L and 7.3L Godzilla V8s in the Super Duty as base gas engines and not the 3.5L EcoBoost V6?
@@CJColvin Nope, neither will but the 4.6 makes half the horsepower. Give it time on putting the Ecoboost in the HD trucks. It all depends on who is running the government(and directing the EPA). AFAIK HD trucks aren't held to the same standard as half ton trucks.
The 5.0 is incredible. I love mine. So reliable. But I just test drove a powerboost and yeesh. Pulling the trigger. Especially with the 7.2kw generator....
I'd love to have the powerboost but I am waiting for them to figure out the bugs I'd never by a first gen anything . I have the 3.5 eb in my 2020 and it's a beast!
I had a 6.2 and the 3.5 ecoboost is better overall when you factor in low end torque and fuel mileage. 6.2 has much worse low end than you would expect and fuel mileage isn't so great until it's tuned. I may change my tune if the ecoboost doesn't hold up well for me past 150k.
@michaelpopp6340 If the EcoBoost is so good and so superior in everyway then howcome Ford used the 6.8L and 7.3L Godzilla V8s in the Super Duty as base gas engines and not the 3.5L EcoBoost V6? Also why does the Ford Mustang GT use the 5.0L Coyote V8 and not the 2.7L EcoBoost V6 nor the 3.5L EcoBoost V6?
@@michaelpopp6340 bro have you tried the 6.2 with a pulsar, I've had it on for about 2 years and omg 😳 it is super torque on the low end instant , I had a 2018 f150 3.5 eco boost and I tell you this 6.2 is just as fast with the pulsar lt, I can get like 5.4 secs 0 to 60 with 34.3 inch tires installed. The ecoboost was cool but the sensation overall satisfaction is the 6.2 or the coyote 5.0
@@CJColvin superduty is meant for heavy duty, things like towing heavy, so it needs more displacement because squeezing more power out of a smaller displacement makes a less reliable engine esp when being used in a heavy duty application where it’s constantly being overstressed. The eco boost isn’t used in the mustang because muscle car people will always prefer V8s due to their linear power and sound and because muscle cars are a subculture which stipulates that v6 engines are inherently less cool, less manly, less “muscle car” than v8. The eco boost is still a great engine and has its benefits over the 5.0.
In my Powerboost, I get 21 to 22 MPG. I drive normal to fast at times. I will routinely get 620 - 640 miles on one tank of 91 octane gas. It has more power and torque than any other motor, including the high output V6 Raptor. Plus you get built-in generator with 240V capability.
For me it’s the Powerboost. I live in a Suburb of Fort Worth, and we are no strangers to bad weather, and power outages. So between the fuel efficiency I’ve seen from long term owners, and capability overall especially in a bad situation with the 7.2. That’s easily my choice
@@markhavelka4924 I’m probably getting mine next year, but my uncle who is a mechanical engineer has had his for the last few years, and it’s been rock solid. He traded his old diesel F-250 for it he says the only thing he misses is the extra little bit of torque when he tows his boat, but other than that he loves it.
I’ve had the power boost for a year now and I love it ! I avg about 24 mpg without paying attention. If I’m easy on the accelerator and take advantage of going down hills i can get close to 30mpg’s.
You knew what his verdict would be from the second he stepped into that V8. I've heard over two decades of V8 sounds from the same truck. It was a rocket, and I loved it. Now that I'm older I care about efficiency, reliability, and power - all practical, useful things. Sounds be damned. In fact, the quieter, the better. Figured the Ecoboost has become enough of a proven platform over its generations and that hybrid tech might make a good thing even better for at least 2/3 of my criteria. I'm very nice to a vehicle; so, a month ago I thought I'd give the PB a chance to prove its reliability in the form of an XLT. We'll see how it all shakes out. So far, I'm just having a blast with this thing.
@@justforyoublue Still awesome. One thing: There is sometimes a noise coming from the rear when shifting in low gear from a complete stop, especially when driving slowly from a stop. I'd describe it as a grinding, but it's not like any of the differential grinding recordings I've heard online. It's very brief, lasting at most 2 seconds. Took it to the dealer, and they thought I was nuts for bringing in a new truck; so I'll try to grab a recording. I'll add that I doubt this is a PB-specific issue.
@tboe-cr8pz But yet the 2011-2017 F150 with the 5.0 is pretty dead reliable, also you can delete the cylinder deactivation by either putting a tune on it or putting it in sport mode.
@@tboe-cr8pz It’s been out for 3 years now, lots of higher mileage examples at this point. Problems virtually non-existent. Just remember to change the oil pump drive belt @ 150K (also applies to the 2.7)
My 2016 Lariat with 5.5L TT has a lifetime of 19.5 GPM for 61,000 miles. I have a SHO with the first generation 3.5L TT also and get 28 MPG on highway trips.
Thumbs down for me because the second most important thing after the size of the engine is the gear ratio. Ford makes about 5 different gear ratios. That being said, certain motor sizes only get paired with certain gear ratios. In 2016 I had a brand new Lariat with 5.0 liter and 3.55 gear ratio. A little less pulling power but I was satisfied with my fuel mileage. If you are not pulling a trailer 3.55 & 3.31 will be better on fuel, 3.73 and 4.10 will be better for pulling trailer but use more fuel.
I had a 2015 2.7 and it’s shockingly good, but I’ll be buying the 5.0 in my next truck. I want the sound (upgrading exhaust), resale value, and reliability the V8 brings. I could barely afford my 2015 so I didn’t get the options I wanted
Didnt have the 5.0 for the Tremor in 2022 when I got mine, so I have the 3.5 and really like it. I get 20 miles to the gal when driving locally and around 22 to 24 when going on trips. I dont know if I would go with the new 5.0 that has cylinder deactivation now. My son is a Ford tech, and they are seeing the 5.0 coming in alot with issues due to it.
Your test is why off the Powerboost over greater distance gets much better mileage then any of the other powertrains. You need to do like a 100 mile loop of just doing normal driving no quick acceleration in the test. You also need to put them into the eco modes for the test to be valid. The short distance in this test is very flawed you need a set route as close to same for each vehicle and you doing the same thing. If you did a longer drive and more complete test like TFL did you would see the Powerboost is way better in a mileage test.
2019 crew cab 2.7 Liter...gas mileage ranges on HWY between 18.5 and 25. The 2.7 seems impacted most by wind and temperature. Cold months 18.5 now that temps are warming 24.5. Hwy is for me 65-80 commuting 30 miles. Average is 21 overall. Good power, tows the boat, snowmobiles, and handles full firewood loads with no issue. Had 5.3 Chevy V_8. Gas mileage 17 overall. Never better than 22 hwy. The 2.7 smokes the 07 Chevy.
Another great review! Tough call. As an RVer that tows a small camper and might tow a 5,000 lb camper in my future, I would love to have the Power Boost with the 7.2kw ProPower onboard generator. But, it is one of the most unreliable trucks on the market in that configuration. Thus, for tow duty, I would probably choose the V8. If I knew I was going to keep my small camper, I would stay with the more efficient, but sporty 2.7EB. But, bottom line, Ford offers lots of capability, engineering, and technology in their trucks, but they are not reliable enough and customer satisfaction is not good.
3.5L twin turbo. Started making a noise 2 yrs ago. Ed Kenley Ford said they couldn’t do anything due to no engine light. They KNEW it was the faulty VTC Phaser as it was a common problem. 2 years later blew the engine. Would have been covered by the warranty before. Cost $16k for a new engine. Not happy with Ed Kenley.
Hi Ben I want to ask you opinion , I have 2023 f150 Xlt 5.0l and 3.31 electronic lock rr. I would like to put 2.5 lift and 34s tires , what do you think.? Thank you Ben.
For less than a 1,000 dollars the 3.5l comes to life! 550 hp, 650+ torque. My 2020 gets 28+mpg with the tune as well. That is highway and driving now more than 65mph. But it is fun to drive, at 45mph it will chirp the tires when you step on it! It’s my second truck with the 3.5l, and I have had zero issues with both.
@@joshuasavill1874 I had a 2020, just bought a 2024. The only change was a high flow filter and having it tuned. These engines are so detuned from ford because of epa standards. I’m glad to see Ford is firing back at the epa!! The epa is a waste of tax payers money!
Why is this a surprise? There is no replacement for displacement. The 5.0 is even more practical when you have rapidly changing elevations and the turbos work harder. The simplicity of the 5.0 will definitely relate to superior reliability. 1 or 2 mpg is not worth stepping down to an Ecoboost.
Totally agree 100%, I a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 161,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
If buying right now, I'd pick the 5.0 personally. But, the 2.7 is a close runner up. Watched so many videos from mechanics absolutely praising the 2.7 for its build quality and reliability. If my only option was the powerboost i'd go buy a RAM instead.....
The 3.5 is the best on paper and lasts just as long or longer than any 5.0. It tows more, hauls more, faster etc etc. The 5.0 is for sound basically. The new 5.0 is not like the ones prior to 2017, and that's not a good thing.
What did ford do to the 2.7. The one I had was the 6 speed. 0 to 60 was 5.7. Now it’s half second less. Would beat the 3.5 in drag race along with all the v8 s . They updated the 3.5. Had a 2006 dodge ram with 5.7 with header’s intake ect. Ford still beat it. Also the 2.7 is a better design, offset crank like a diesel. Different block construction.
Why does Ford still make the V8 if the 2.7L EcoBoost V6 is wayyyyyyy too good? Also why did Ford use the 5.0L Coyote V8 in the Mustang GT and not the 2.7L EcoBoost V6?
@@CJColvin Because old heads like you are scared of technology and have no clue about turbos. Turbos have been used on big truck and trains for a long time and if maintained wright will last longer than the engine.
@@kenwolf2431 Yet that overpriced EcoBoost truck of yours won't outlast my good ol 1996 Ford F150 with a 5.0L (302) Windsor V8 mate, you've spoken like a true EPA as well as a Muscle car hater mate.
If you’re planning on keeping the truck for more than 3 years, get the 5.0 V8 because it’s actually built to last. No turbochargers need replaced. And because it’s bigger displacement, it doesn’t have to work as hard…….less likely to wear out. If you’re not planning on keeping the truck for more than 3 years, I’d still get the 5.0 for all the things I mentioned above PLUS there’s nothing like the natural sound V8 rumble, even with quiet mufflers.
You need to let them warm up before comparing; they all drive and operate significantly differently when cold versus after warming up, intentionally reducing power to prevent stress on the parts that haven’t expanded to the intended dimensions before reaching thermal expansion temperatures.
According to the Ford Website: The 5.0 is not available on a 2024 Lariat... I was going to order one, but they are not available - It is only available on the 2024 XLT!
There is more stopping power in the Powerboost, as it combines the engine brake, the mechanical brakes, and the regen brakes. Not as much as an HD with the 7.3 or the Diesel (they have much bigger brakes and much more displacement), but more then the 5.0. Not a huge difference though, so both will tow and control a trailer equally well.
While I love my 3.5 eco, I have watched quite a few videos where they ask Ford mechanics which engine they would choose and the majority of them, not surprisingly, choose the 5.0.
Your test loop isn’t going to give accurate data. First of all, they all didn’t have much time to come up to normal operating temp. Cold engine ms always burn lots of fuel. Also, the efficiency of the turbo engines is better when you drive smoothly. Let the torque pull you up the hill or accelerate vs. pushing it till it downshifts. The NA V8 is a rev happy engine and is not the best for towing. I’ve had the 2.7 and it was a great little engine. Good economy with 21.6 all around average over 3 years. I now have the PowerBoost and will tell you I’m getting 23.8 average over 3 years. It’s only getting better. I monitor and calculate my mileage every fill up with Fuelly app, and I’ve also calibrated my mpg computer to within.2-.4 mpg. 5k mile oil changes with high quality oil, regular maintenance, and smooth driving makes this the best power train for a 1/2 ton pickup. I also have the 5.0 coyote in my 20 Mustang GT. It’s also very economical on the highway but not so much when stop and go driving is involved. If you were driving long distances and not towing or hauling too much the 5.0 is a good engine. Just forget about it if it’s going to do all city and lots of stop and go. My choices are 3.5 hybrid, 2.7, 5.0, and 3.5 in that order.
And the v8 is the best engine for a heavy truck… shocker….. some will say the power of the 3.5s is best or that the fuel efficiency of the 2.7 is best but in many opinions the best blend of the v8 will always be best and you get the sound of the v8 as the cherry on top
@kenwolf2431 If the 3.5L EcoBoost V6 is wayyyyyyy too good and so superior in every way then howcome Ford used the 6.8L and 7.3L Godzilla V8s in the Super Duty as base gas engines and not the 3.5L EcoBoost V6 mate?
I hope someone responds to this. I get a new truck every 2 years and have always had the 2.7 my 2023 Lariat consistantly gets 23 in town and 26 to 27 highway. It is for pleasure only I always drive in eco and do not have a heavy foot. I was told the 2024 and beyond Lariats can not get a 2.7 anymore and must have 4x4. That does not make sense to me to have to have a bigger engine with lower gas mileage and 4 wheel drive I will never use in the south. Does the person who made this review or anyone else feel the same
Idk what you are doing on you drives but I have a 3.5 eco boost and I have never gotten less then 18 miles to the gallon and I do not drive slow. I’m not saying you rigged this but maybe some further testing is needed cuz 14.5 is crazy low for that truck
Amen Brother, gotta love the 5.0L Coyote V8, I have one in my 2011 Ford F150 with 161,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well
I think depending on the needs/wants of each individual, any option is a good option. Each one of these engines has their advantages and it's nice that Ford offers the different configurations.
Gonna make it ez it's the 5.0 V8
Couldn't agree more brother
Very easy 👌
Love my 2023 Tremor with the 5.0 Coyote.
@@JT012probably best half ton out. Just wish Ford didn't do the Toyota plasticy and generally garbage interiors
@@JT012Love mine as well! Amazing truck, and incredible upgrade from my old 5.4 which served me well, but my Tremor 5.0 is a beast.
My experience has made me a huge proponent of the PowerBoost. My 2017 was the first year of the gen 2 3.5 ecoboost with 10 speed combo, and since I've now had a 2021 PowerBoost for 50k. My lifetime fuel economy over 2 years, 21k on the 3.5 was just over 17 mpg. My PowerBoost has stayed around 21 mpg, which I consider a significant improvement. And now that they are crediting the msrp on all PowerBoost, making it the same price as the 3.5, I think it's a great pick.
I have a 2021 5.0 love it 🇺🇸
Awesome brother, gotta love the legendary 5.0L Coyote V8.
The 2.7 doesn't fail to impress! I love mine. It's like a minie diesel engine with all its torque!
What job do you have and how much money do you make to afford that 2.7L EcoBoost F150 with ease?
The 2.7 is a solid ,strong engine !
@JohnDiMartino The question is will it outlast the 5.7L I-Force V8 in the Toyota Tundra?
@@CJColvinbruh
@@loganclausen2228 What?
yeah i went 5.0 2023 - love it so far - thanks for the comparison
How’s the cylinder deactivation in the 5.0? Is it noticeable?
Is there any indication light in the cluster to show when it drops down to a 4 banger?
Me too.
@@DH-hp7nv I've really never noticed the deactivation. I'm just glad I didn't get the auto start/stop function. I have a 23 Tremor but surprisingly am getting more like 19 mpg calculated (20 by truck computer over thousands of miles). It doesn't like the wind in the SW though at interstate speeds (more like 15-18 mpg if it is really windy crosswind or headwind, and obviously slowing down a little would help). I think the higher profile is the main issue. On the other hand, it does great (>20+) if it is calm or driving with the wind. Overall, very happy with the truck so far.
@@DH-hp7nv i can hear it from the exhaust but if i didnt hear it I wouldnt notice it at all. Theres no indicator for it that im aware of but it aint like i read the owners manual either lol
I have a 2021 f150 5.0 liter with 3.73 gear. In lower end it Flys at about 2500 rpm that's when the v8 comes to life and hauls the mail
I drive a 2021 F-150 with powerboost and 7.2 kW pro power onboard. It is currently in my driveway powering my house. It has been sending power to my house since Hurricane Beryl came through Monday and we wait for power to be returned. My truck has 98,000 miles and runs like the day it was new. Thanks for the comparison. Love my Ford.
For me its the legendary 5.0L Coyote V8.
My 2013 5.0 with 125,000 miles is still running like a top. Love it.
2013 3.5 160k still running
Id hope so
I just recently picked up a ‘24 STX 4x4 with the 5.0 and don’t regret it one bit. I don’t care if it’s not the most fuel efficient. I wanted a simple naturally aspirated engine that I feel fairly confident will live a long happy life with minimal issues. I don’t feel that way about anything forced induction. That being said, my 5.0 still knocks down 23-24 mpg cruising down the highway at 73 mph and is the only one that sounds like a truck should.
had a 5.0 crew cab and a 5.0 supercab + a earlier model 2.7 crew cab, for me driving between a 95ft to a little under 1,900ft elevation region that 2.7 impressed really well...
I use my trucks for daily + hauling things mainly.
Guess it depends what ya need the truck for ... Kool review and ty for getting all these trucks to share with us.
I’ve owned and worked them all and the PB is my personal truck. The 5.0 is my favourite in a work truck and the PB is my favourite in a personal truck; they’re all good.
Ben, I don’t think you mentioned the difference in rear gear ratios?
If you pull a camper like me, you want the powerboost with the 7.2KW generator! I can power my camper for a full weekend with A/C in the camper on. And the torque pulling in the mountains is unbeatable. I had a 2021 5.0 and it can’t tow squat in the mountains without revving to the moon.
Test drove a 5.0, powerboost 3.5, and 3.5 EB yesterday. I liked the 5.0 the best. Not even for the sound- I just felt like I could “feel” the car better when driving. Powerboost was a freaking rocket ship though. 3.5 had a weird stutter when I accelerated harder
5.0 🎉
Amen Brother, I have a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 161,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
5.0..bro!!
Amen Brother
I like the V8 the best, but if pressed, I would buy the 2.7L because I hear it's been a reliable work horse.
I just ordered a 5.0 "STX" after having both Eco-boosts with no problem with any. I'd definitely wait on any of the EV/Powerboost options until further development and capability. It's surely coming. Like I said--trying the 5.0--my first V-8 since 1982! Then: I'm dropping the Whipple FP700 on it!
I just upgraded from a 2019 3.5 to a 2024 Powerboost. If you do nothing but get on the Powerboost, you will get the gas mileage shown in the video. I do love to get on my Powerboost when needed and it is very torquey! If you drive it normally, you get close to the stated gas mileage. I get 21mpg on the average. I've seen some people get significantly higher if you use the braking coach and drive it with the intent to get the best gas mileage. I don't notice the spooling that is stated (I get immediate response) except the first couple of miles when it is cold; and that has gotten much better with the 2024 vs the 2019. I got a rebate since it is a "hybrid", so it wasn't much of an increase in price over the regular 3.5. I also like the fact that I can use it as a generator if ever needed. I really love my Powerboost.
I have a 2020 with a 3.5. 170,000 miles. Still runs great.
I just traded my 2019 5.0 for a 2023 Powerboost and there is no comparison. I averaged 16mpg in my 5.0 and I average 22.5 in my powerboost. 35 more HP and 170 more ft lb torque is a massive difference as well.
This. Once you drive the PB a bit you start to get mpg in the 20’s. It takes getting that 1.5kw battery charged up consistently. The biggest Giveaway for me was Ben sitting at the light and the truck was idling. On a typical daily driver you’re 100% on electric at a light. Both great options. Love my V8’s, but PB is definitely an eye opener though…
How many miles you got on your power boost?
@@MD-rg4fg as of now, 2500
Engine didn’t turn off because it was cold; it takes very little charging to shut off at a traffic light, it just stays off for a shorter period with a lower charge.
the introduction to this comparison proves the point ive been trying to make for years. a smaller motor is more fuel efficient sitting on a test bench, but when its having to work harder to pull the same truck that the larger v8 motor does with less effort... the end result is identical fuel economy. the only thing they managed to do with these smaller motors is create a more complex engine with more potential failure points. stick with the old tried and true 5.0 V8 or get yourself a diesel.
No 😂 idk what this guy was doing but I have the 3.5 and iv never gotten less then 18 ever so idk what this guy was doing but it’s not a real world test
Ben i wanted a 21 with 5.0 and HDPP. Ended up with a used 2022 Powerboost with 6.5 bed and xlt high and 7.2 kw inverter. Averaged just under 22 mpgs with 90% highway.
Powered my house for 1 to 4 days. Never imagined that.
If Ford put the 4850 rear axle in this truck it would be darned near perfect for us camping types wanting about 2K payload.
How long did it power it, 1 or 4 days?
@RobertBoston-n4d sir the first event was 2 days, second event 1 day and third time was 4 days. Sorry to confuse folks.
The Powerboost is the most powerful engine in this video and I get 22-25 MPG every trip. Plus, I get the built in generator. It’s an easy choice for me.
The generator is nice, we lose power often enough
Wow that v8 sounds amazing.
I Love an old fashion V 8. But my power boost destroyed a V8 in race from off the line and at 30 miles a hour I average 22 to 23 miles a gallon on my way to work( 30 miles ) it powers my house, tools and no issues deff Best Buy in my opinion
It’s easily the 3.5…absolute monster stock…pulls the best…doesn’t have issues like the power boost…and only thing 5.0 has over the 3.5 is sound
The question is will it outlast the legendary 4.6L SOHC 2V Modular V8 in the Ford Panther Platform (Ford Crownvic, Mercury Grand Marquis, and Lincoln Town Car)? Also why did Ford use the 6.8L and 7.3L Godzilla V8s in the Super Duty as base gas engines and not the 3.5L EcoBoost V6?
@@CJColvin Nope, neither will but the 4.6 makes half the horsepower. Give it time on putting the Ecoboost in the HD trucks. It all depends on who is running the government(and directing the EPA). AFAIK HD trucks aren't held to the same standard as half ton trucks.
@@CJColvindude why are living in the past?These are engines of the past, move on
@jasonbrushett2005 Spoken like a true Modern car lover as well as an EPA lover and a Muscle car hater.
@@CJColvin you know it mate...now motor on 😅
The 5.0 is incredible. I love mine. So reliable. But I just test drove a powerboost and yeesh. Pulling the trigger. Especially with the 7.2kw generator....
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Love your reviews Ben Hardy looking at a 5.0 coyote V8 in my next F-150 truck thanks keep up the good work
I have a stock 2020 2wd 3.5 ecoboost. I average 19.5 combined. Hardly ever throttle down. 115k running awesome
I'd love to have the powerboost but I am waiting for them to figure out the bugs I'd never by a first gen anything . I have the 3.5 eb in my 2020 and it's a beast!
5.0 anyday, unless i have the 6.2 ls lol.
I had a 6.2 and the 3.5 ecoboost is better overall when you factor in low end torque and fuel mileage. 6.2 has much worse low end than you would expect and fuel mileage isn't so great until it's tuned.
I may change my tune if the ecoboost doesn't hold up well for me past 150k.
Amen Brother, V8 or nothing
@michaelpopp6340 If the EcoBoost is so good and so superior in everyway then howcome Ford used the 6.8L and 7.3L Godzilla V8s in the Super Duty as base gas engines and not the 3.5L EcoBoost V6? Also why does the Ford Mustang GT use the 5.0L Coyote V8 and not the 2.7L EcoBoost V6 nor the 3.5L EcoBoost V6?
@@michaelpopp6340 bro have you tried the 6.2 with a pulsar, I've had it on for about 2 years and omg 😳 it is super torque on the low end instant , I had a 2018 f150 3.5 eco boost and I tell you this 6.2 is just as fast with the pulsar lt, I can get like 5.4 secs 0 to 60 with 34.3 inch tires installed. The ecoboost was cool but the sensation overall satisfaction is the 6.2 or the coyote 5.0
@@CJColvin superduty is meant for heavy duty, things like towing heavy, so it needs more displacement because squeezing more power out of a smaller displacement makes a less reliable engine esp when being used in a heavy duty application where it’s constantly being overstressed. The eco boost isn’t used in the mustang because muscle car people will always prefer V8s due to their linear power and sound and because muscle cars are a subculture which stipulates that v6 engines are inherently less cool, less manly, less “muscle car” than v8. The eco boost is still a great engine and has its benefits over the 5.0.
I have the 2024 powerboost, saves you gas in the city if you mostly do highway then 5.0 would be a better choice
I have a powerboost, and I average 21mpg combined. It's the most powerful amongst these engines and most fuel efficient.
In my Powerboost, I get 21 to 22 MPG. I drive normal to fast at times. I will routinely get 620 - 640 miles on one tank of 91 octane gas. It has more power and torque than any other motor, including the high output V6 Raptor. Plus you get built-in generator with 240V capability.
3.5 the perfect
Nice, Nice Challenger Scat Pack you have there
For me it’s the Powerboost. I live in a Suburb of Fort Worth, and we are no strangers to bad weather, and power outages. So between the fuel efficiency I’ve seen from long term owners, and capability overall especially in a bad situation with the 7.2. That’s easily my choice
I have one as well. Incredible
I'd love to have one in my next f150
I’ve had a ‘13 5.0 and now have a ‘20 3.5. Considering a ‘24 Powerboost. How has reliability been for you?
@@markhavelka4924 I’m probably getting mine next year, but my uncle who is a mechanical engineer has had his for the last few years, and it’s been rock solid. He traded his old diesel F-250 for it he says the only thing he misses is the extra little bit of torque when he tows his boat, but other than that he loves it.
I’ve had the power boost for a year now and I love it ! I avg about 24 mpg without paying attention. If I’m easy on the accelerator and take advantage of going down hills i can get close to 30mpg’s.
You knew what his verdict would be from the second he stepped into that V8. I've heard over two decades of V8 sounds from the same truck. It was a rocket, and I loved it. Now that I'm older I care about efficiency, reliability, and power - all practical, useful things. Sounds be damned. In fact, the quieter, the better. Figured the Ecoboost has become enough of a proven platform over its generations and that hybrid tech might make a good thing even better for at least 2/3 of my criteria. I'm very nice to a vehicle; so, a month ago I thought I'd give the PB a chance to prove its reliability in the form of an XLT. We'll see how it all shakes out. So far, I'm just having a blast with this thing.
Still good?
@@justforyoublue Still awesome. One thing: There is sometimes a noise coming from the rear when shifting in low gear from a complete stop, especially when driving slowly from a stop. I'd describe it as a grinding, but it's not like any of the differential grinding recordings I've heard online. It's very brief, lasting at most 2 seconds. Took it to the dealer, and they thought I was nuts for bringing in a new truck; so I'll try to grab a recording. I'll add that I doubt this is a PB-specific issue.
For sports cars, the more power the better. For pickup trucks the more reliability, the better. Gotta go with the 5.0 Coyote.
Couldn't agree more brother, gotta love the legendary 5.0L Coyote V8.
The reliability of the new 5.0 has yet to be proven because of the cylinder deactivation
@tboe-cr8pz But yet the 2011-2017 F150 with the 5.0 is pretty dead reliable, also you can delete the cylinder deactivation by either putting a tune on it or putting it in sport mode.
@@tboe-cr8pz It’s been out for 3 years now, lots of higher mileage examples at this point. Problems virtually non-existent.
Just remember to change the oil pump drive belt @ 150K (also applies to the 2.7)
I mean, pickups are passenger vehicles now...🤷🏿♂️ They're personality cars. Image cars. (Not judging, just pointing out the flaw in your logic)
It sucks that they did away with the 3.3l.
Why??
The 300 would say hold my beer, but I do love my eco boost
My 2016 Lariat with 5.5L TT has a lifetime of 19.5 GPM for 61,000 miles.
I have a SHO with the first generation 3.5L TT also and get 28 MPG on highway trips.
I work for a company that uses a lot of different f150s. The 2.7 has been the most reliable. The 5.0 and 3.5 have been cam phaser nightmares.
Only on the previous generation. They fixed it for the new generation and haven’t had the reported problems anymore.
Thumbs down for me because the second most important thing after the size of the engine is the gear ratio. Ford makes about 5 different gear ratios. That being said, certain motor sizes only get paired with certain gear ratios. In 2016 I had a brand new Lariat with 5.0 liter and 3.55 gear ratio. A little less pulling power but I was satisfied with my fuel mileage. If you are not pulling a trailer 3.55 & 3.31 will be better on fuel, 3.73 and 4.10 will be better for pulling trailer but use more fuel.
I had a 2015 2.7 and it’s shockingly good, but I’ll be buying the 5.0 in my next truck. I want the sound (upgrading exhaust), resale value, and reliability the V8 brings. I could barely afford my 2015 so I didn’t get the options I wanted
Great choice brother
5.0 baby!💪
Amen Brother, gotta the legendary 5.0L Coyote V8
Didnt have the 5.0 for the Tremor in 2022 when I got mine, so I have the 3.5 and really like it. I get 20 miles to the gal when driving locally and around 22 to 24 when going on trips. I dont know if I would go with the new 5.0 that has cylinder deactivation now. My son is a Ford tech, and they are seeing the 5.0 coming in alot with issues due to it.
BEN HARDY is the GOAT when is comes to car reviews. Anytime I have a question regarding any vehicle, trust and believe Ben did a review.
5.0 is legendary.
Agreed 100%
Your test is why off the Powerboost over greater distance gets much better mileage then any of the other powertrains. You need to do like a 100 mile loop of just doing normal driving no quick acceleration in the test. You also need to put them into the eco modes for the test to be valid. The short distance in this test is very flawed you need a set route as close to same for each vehicle and you doing the same thing. If you did a longer drive and more complete test like TFL did you would see the Powerboost is way better in a mileage test.
5.0 all the way
1st gen 3.5L 4x4 with off road package was extremely impressive.
2019 crew cab 2.7 Liter...gas mileage ranges on HWY between 18.5 and 25. The 2.7 seems impacted most by wind and temperature. Cold months 18.5 now that temps are warming 24.5. Hwy is for me 65-80 commuting 30 miles. Average is 21 overall. Good power, tows the boat, snowmobiles, and handles full firewood loads with no issue. Had 5.3 Chevy V_8. Gas mileage 17 overall. Never better than 22 hwy. The 2.7 smokes the 07 Chevy.
Dude for real head wind hits my mpg harder than any other vehicle I've had I think. Still love it though
2.7 is the modern 2JZ. Built like an absolute tank.
What ingredients does the 2.7 have to make it so tough and durable? Also will the 2.7L EcoBoost V6 outlast the 5.7L I-Force V8 in the Toyota Tundra?
@@CJColvin graphite iron block with cracked main caps. Bottom end is way over built.
@matthewbradley8226 What internals does it have? Also is the 2.7L EcoBoost V6 as overbuilt as the 5.7L I-Force V8 in the Toyota Tundra?
@@CJColvin Last I checked, you can no longer buy a Tundra with that V8, so who cares?
Another great review! Tough call. As an RVer that tows a small camper and might tow a 5,000 lb camper in my future, I would love to have the Power Boost with the 7.2kw ProPower onboard generator. But, it is one of the most unreliable trucks on the market in that configuration. Thus, for tow duty, I would probably choose the V8. If I knew I was going to keep my small camper, I would stay with the more efficient, but sporty 2.7EB. But, bottom line, Ford offers lots of capability, engineering, and technology in their trucks, but they are not reliable enough and customer satisfaction is not good.
3.5L twin turbo. Started making a noise 2 yrs ago. Ed Kenley Ford said they couldn’t do anything due to no engine light. They KNEW it was the faulty VTC Phaser as it was a common problem. 2 years later blew the engine. Would have been covered by the warranty before. Cost $16k for a new engine. Not happy with Ed Kenley.
Hi Ben
I want to ask you opinion ,
I have 2023 f150 Xlt 5.0l and 3.31 electronic lock rr.
I would like to put 2.5 lift and 34s tires , what do you think.?
Thank you Ben.
For less than a 1,000 dollars the 3.5l comes to life! 550 hp, 650+ torque. My 2020 gets 28+mpg with the tune as well. That is highway and driving now more than 65mph. But it is fun to drive, at 45mph it will chirp the tires when you step on it! It’s my second truck with the 3.5l, and I have had zero issues with both.
What changes did you make?
What changed did you make?
@@joshuasavill1874 I had a 2020, just bought a 2024. The only change was a high flow filter and having it tuned. These engines are so detuned from ford because of epa standards. I’m glad to see Ford is firing back at the epa!! The epa is a waste of tax payers money!
5.0L Coyote for the win. Most reliable great performance There always shoukd be more of these available on the lot
Why is this a surprise? There is no replacement for displacement. The 5.0 is even more practical when you have rapidly changing elevations and the turbos work harder. The simplicity of the 5.0 will definitely relate to superior reliability. 1 or 2 mpg is not worth stepping down to an Ecoboost.
Totally agree 100%, I a 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 161,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well.
We got a 2015 with a 2.7 and it’s got 250,000 miles no problems
Awesome to hear ! Any minor problems ? Did you do transmission fluid changes ?
It’s a work truck where I work This truck has been abuse only oil change like ever 10,000 miles and then breaks every so often as far as my knowledge
i been ford tech for 39 years and i would take 2.7 allday long awesome engine
I just wish they didn’t have cylinder deactivation in the 5.0 truck. Such a bummer…that’s why you get the Raptor R or the TRX.
You can thank the stupid EPA for all of this crap.
just run in either sport or tow mode
If buying right now, I'd pick the 5.0 personally. But, the 2.7 is a close runner up. Watched so many videos from mechanics absolutely praising the 2.7 for its build quality and reliability. If my only option was the powerboost i'd go buy a RAM instead.....
I love my 2.7. It's hilariously quick for its size. Great commuter.
The 3.5 is the best on paper and lasts just as long or longer than any 5.0. It tows more, hauls more, faster etc etc. The 5.0 is for sound basically. The new 5.0 is not like the ones prior to 2017, and that's not a good thing.
For the average driver that rarely tows, the 2.7 is a beast. As fast as the 5.0, just as reliable, better mileage, and cheaper.
so they brought column shifts back to all the models?
Not the Tremor
@@JT012 ahhh i see
Easy it’s the POWERBOOST 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
What did ford do to the 2.7. The one I had was the 6 speed. 0 to 60 was 5.7. Now it’s half second less. Would beat the 3.5 in drag race along with all the v8 s . They updated the 3.5. Had a 2006 dodge ram with 5.7 with header’s intake ect. Ford still beat it. Also the 2.7 is a better design, offset crank like a diesel. Different block construction.
Why does Ford still make the V8 if the 2.7L EcoBoost V6 is wayyyyyyy too good? Also why did Ford use the 5.0L Coyote V8 in the Mustang GT and not the 2.7L EcoBoost V6?
@@CJColvin Because old heads like you are scared of technology and have no clue about turbos. Turbos have been used on big truck and trains for a long time and if maintained wright will last longer than the engine.
@@kenwolf2431 Yet that overpriced EcoBoost truck of yours won't outlast my good ol 1996 Ford F150 with a 5.0L (302) Windsor V8 mate, you've spoken like a true EPA as well as a Muscle car hater mate.
2.7 10 speed with 3.55 rear end gears because it shocks ram hemi off the light every time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have a powerboost, and I average 21mpg combined. It's the most powerful amongst these engines and most fuel efficient.
Why only v8 has a regular shifter and not a column stock? Is that an option you need to get for the regular shifter?
If you’re planning on keeping the truck for more than 3 years, get the 5.0 V8 because it’s actually built to last. No turbochargers need replaced. And because it’s bigger displacement, it doesn’t have to work as hard…….less likely to wear out.
If you’re not planning on keeping the truck for more than 3 years, I’d still get the 5.0 for all the things I mentioned above PLUS there’s nothing like the natural sound V8 rumble, even with quiet mufflers.
The 3.5 works less then the 5.0 turns less RPM when towing makes power way down low. Turbos last a long time if change your oil like you should.
@Ben Hardy: The Coyote has not been the same since 2017. Direct injection and cylinder deactivation killed it.
Unfortunately it's true
Ford made it a dual port and direct injection starting in 2018. This allows intake valves to have a gasoline 'wash' reducing carbon buildup.
What was the rear end gear on that 5.0 v8 u test drove
I like and have a 5.0 but enjoy it now because it’s going away soon. Matter of time.
Yep you got it brother and the EcoBoost lovers (aka the EPA lovers) don't seem to care.
The 5.0 all day long
I love 5.0 i have lariat 22 5.0 engine now two days ago i ordered another lariat 24 5.0 engine i love it
You need to let them warm up before comparing; they all drive and operate significantly differently when cold versus after warming up, intentionally reducing power to prevent stress on the parts that haven’t expanded to the intended dimensions before reaching thermal expansion temperatures.
Power and utility, PowerBoost!
I am definitely taking the 5.0 Coyote. I have a 2013 5.0 Mustang and I am looking at a cheap 5.0 truck between 11-14. lol
According to the Ford Website: The 5.0 is not available on a 2024 Lariat... I was going to order one, but they are not available - It is only available on the 2024 XLT!
No brainer.... 5.0 V8!!!!
Amen Brother, gotta love the legendary 5.0L Coyote V8.
I recently bought a 3.5 2023 Lariat. If a 5.0 Lariat would have been available at the time I would have jumped on it.
I have heard that the powerboost is a beast towing. But it has trouble stopping. So im going 5.0 all day
There is more stopping power in the Powerboost, as it combines the engine brake, the mechanical brakes, and the regen brakes. Not as much as an HD with the 7.3 or the Diesel (they have much bigger brakes and much more displacement), but more then the 5.0. Not a huge difference though, so both will tow and control a trailer equally well.
I have a 2021 5.0 and I love it!
5.0 3.73 gear=perfect 🎉
While I love my 3.5 eco, I have watched quite a few videos where they ask Ford mechanics which engine they would choose and the majority of them, not surprisingly, choose the 5.0.
Yep and I don't blame em
Your test loop isn’t going to give accurate data. First of all, they all didn’t have much time to come up to normal operating temp. Cold engine ms always burn lots of fuel. Also, the efficiency of the turbo engines is better when you drive smoothly. Let the torque pull you up the hill or accelerate vs. pushing it till it downshifts. The NA V8 is a rev happy engine and is not the best for towing.
I’ve had the 2.7 and it was a great little engine. Good economy with 21.6 all around average over 3 years. I now have the PowerBoost and will tell you I’m getting 23.8 average over 3 years. It’s only getting better. I monitor and calculate my mileage every fill up with Fuelly app, and I’ve also calibrated my mpg computer to within.2-.4 mpg. 5k mile oil changes with high quality oil, regular maintenance, and smooth driving makes this the best power train for a 1/2 ton pickup.
I also have the 5.0 coyote in my 20 Mustang GT. It’s also very economical on the highway but not so much when stop and go driving is involved.
If you were driving long distances and not towing or hauling too much the 5.0 is a good engine. Just forget about it if it’s going to do all city and lots of stop and go.
My choices are 3.5 hybrid, 2.7, 5.0, and 3.5 in that order.
It’s all factory tuning to be subdued and comfortable. You have to test in sport mode to test the greatest potential all engines have.
F-150 V8 baby! to haul my s550 and go drifting lol
And the v8 is the best engine for a heavy truck… shocker….. some will say the power of the 3.5s is best or that the fuel efficiency of the 2.7 is best but in many opinions the best blend of the v8 will always be best and you get the sound of the v8 as the cherry on top
Couldn't agree more brother
The 3.5 will out do the 5.0 in towing anything it acts like a diesel in pulling with lower torque.
@kenwolf2431 If the 3.5L EcoBoost V6 is wayyyyyyy too good and so superior in every way then howcome Ford used the 6.8L and 7.3L Godzilla V8s in the Super Duty as base gas engines and not the 3.5L EcoBoost V6 mate?
@@kenwolf2431 What job do you have and how much money do you make to afford that overpriced EcoBoost F150?
Can you do a video on how and why the power boost has less towing?
I hope someone responds to this. I get a new truck every 2 years and have always had the 2.7 my 2023 Lariat consistantly gets 23 in town and 26 to 27 highway. It is for pleasure only I always drive in eco and do not have a heavy foot. I was told the 2024 and beyond Lariats can not get a 2.7 anymore and must have 4x4. That does not make sense to me to have to have a bigger engine with lower gas mileage and 4 wheel drive I will never use in the south. Does the person who made this review or anyone else feel the same
Power boost all the way best power best MPG period his test was very flawed and way to short.
People are mobile, and in the north, a 2 wheel drive pickup has no resale value.
Idk what you are doing on you drives but I have a 3.5 eco boost and I have never gotten less then 18 miles to the gallon and I do not drive slow. I’m not saying you rigged this but maybe some further testing is needed cuz 14.5 is crazy low for that truck
So, your fuel economy rating is based on a 1 mile loop that the dealership will let you take. I would make no decisions based on this video.
Facts bro I have the 3.5 and iv never got less then 18 mpg ever
I have the 5.0 and run E85 emissions is much less withE85.
So is power and mpg on an untuned engine
As a 2.7 eco owner , it’s the 5.0. I’ll never buy a Ecoboost again , 3.5 included.
5.0
Amen Brother, gotta love the 5.0L Coyote V8, I have one in my 2011 Ford F150 with 161,000 miles on it and still going strong and its a beast and it sounds like a beast with the Borla ATAK exhaust on it as well
2.7 if you want power and reliabilty
Just wish they didn't take out the flex fuel for the 5.0 in 2024 on e85 it makes more power.
What happened to the v6 naturally aspirated engine
Last year 2023 3.3v6