I have found your channel very helpful. Only use coal right now and I only use Weber. I have 6 of their bbqs. I am proud to say based on your videos I have now purchased a Prestige Phantom. Hoping for many great bbqs in our upconing short Scottish Summer. Thanks gents.
Just finished paying off the balance owing on our phantom prestige and travel q today. Cannot wait to try these out. Thankyou so very much for producing these entertaining informative videos. It made our choice a smart one. You guys are great.
Just ordered the last available travel Q phantom from our local supplier. To use when we’re camping. Can’t wait to enjoy it. This unit is so much better quality than the portable unit that came with our camper. Thanks again for another great informative video. Keep up the great work.
Fastforward 3yrs and you can get these everywhere......I wonder what happened to it being a "Limited Edition"? Wouldn't that mean it won't be available forever?
Is there a recommended brush for the cast stainless grills? I read somewhere that brass bristles are preferred. Any recommendations? I just assembled my phantom last night.
The upper warming rack is available as an after market accessory, it is 28.5 inches wide, it won’t fit my Napoleon LEX 485 , which is 26.5 inches wide, in this video it looks like the rogue is narrower than the prestige, so maybe that upper rack would fit the LEX , the prestige in Canada is called the same or Phantom, it retails for $2050 CDN .
Thanks to you I ordered me a Prestige Phantom yesterday after watching your videos. Too bad the rotisserie doesn’t come with the grill as standard here in Sweden 😒, I’ll have to buy it separately. You made me skip both the weber genesis and the broil king.😅🙌 Huge thanks from Sweden. If you find your way to Stockholm, Beers on me 🍻👌🏻
Oh awesome glad your enjoyed the video and it was able to help you! We think you 100% made the right choice! Haha awesome! If we find ourselves there we will let ya know! Thanks again!
Trying to decide between the Phantom Rogue 425 SE RSIB or the regular Prestige 500 RSIB since these are in a similar price range and the Phantom Prestige is a bit too high. What would you say are the main differences between the two? From watching some of your videos, it seems the main advantages of the Rogue are the upgraded warming rack and slightly lower price point while the main advantages of the Prestige are more vertical space, better hood, cooler knobs, and rotisserie included. I do like the matte black finish of the Rogue but don't really see it as an advantage due to it being more difficult to maintain/clean. Additionally, the larger grill size of the Prestige isn't really an advantage for me and I'd actually prefer to have it offered in the smaller 3 burner size at a lower price point. So, I'm torn between the two right now. Are there any other key differences I'm missing between the two? Do they both have the same grill grates or are they different?
I saw a video of the Phantom Prestige 500 and it looked really dirty after a few cooks. More so than a standard Prestige 500. Can you confirm this? Also, would you say the cast stainless steel grill grid and the custom warming rack are worth the $300 upgrade from the Prestige 500?
@@embersliving my main concern are the cast grates and the matte finish. technically cast steel is more brittle than forged or rolled stainless steel rods like in the Prestige 500. thats why they dont make cast stainless steel swords because theyd break. however, these look a bit thicker, so they might last longer simply because of sheer size. the paint is also a concern. depending on how it was painted or finished, itll probably chip and weather. its too bad this is a brand new grill because theres no one to confirm this.
@@rilanthier thats great to know. out of curiosity, does napoleon send you user manual specific for the Phantom 500. On BBQ Guys, they have a PDF of the manual but it's for the regular Prestige 500. Obviously this grill requires different care than any of their other grills
Napoleon Phantom Prestige grill is terrible. It discolors by the handles and will not come clean. A dime sized paint bubble flaked off my grill. It takes 2 1/2 hours for wings to cook in the basket. There are definitely cool spots on the cooking surface. Customer service is atrocious. I was on hold for 1 hour 3 different days before I gave up. The doors have a big gap. I want my Weber back!!!!
I have found your channel very helpful. Only use coal right now and I only use Weber. I have 6 of their bbqs. I am proud to say based on your videos I have now purchased a Prestige Phantom. Hoping for many great bbqs in our upconing short Scottish Summer. Thanks gents.
Nice!!
Just finished paying off the balance owing on our phantom prestige and travel q today. Cannot wait to try these out. Thankyou so very much for producing these entertaining informative videos. It made our choice a smart one. You guys are great.
Oh awesome! You are gonna have a ton of fun with them!! Thanks for watching.
Just ordered the last available travel Q phantom from our local supplier. To use when we’re camping. Can’t wait to enjoy it. This unit is so much better quality than the portable unit that came with our camper.
Thanks again for another great informative video. Keep up the great work.
Oh awesome!! Got one of the few out there! Glad we were able to help in the purchase process! Thanks for the support.
Wow, these look amazing! Napoleon is killing it with these!
They really are doing an awesome job!! Thanks for watching!
Another great video by the awesome dudes at Embers!
Thank you so much!! Appreciate the support!!
I just bought the Prestige phantom today! Can’t wait to use it!
those are so cool!
Prestige 500 vs Phantom Rogue 425.....? Any feedback / suggestions??
Trevor will you be doing that review between the Prestige 500 Pro and the Prestige Phantom?
Yes posting soon
Fastforward 3yrs and you can get these everywhere......I wonder what happened to it being a "Limited Edition"? Wouldn't that mean it won't be available forever?
I like the smaller 425 edition. Can I get the thicker stainless steel grates for it like an upgrade or extra?
Another great video. What is the raw material under the blackout coating? I live near the ocean so durability is a big concern.
I dont see rust as an issue, im sure this was field tested by Napoleon
probably stainless... its gotta be
Is there a recommended brush for the cast stainless grills? I read somewhere that brass bristles are preferred. Any recommendations? I just assembled my phantom last night.
How are these with scratches? If scratched, will is rust?
they're good
The blackout looks great 👍
Tell me about it! Thanks for watching
I don’t see that enamel finish holding up in the long run, any time you have a matte finish it’s prone to show smudges and streaks in the finish.
Fair enough! Might have to do a video on that in a year or two!
@@emberslivingit’s time. These are in stock in my country. How do they hold up ?
Any suggestions on cleaning and maintaining the mat black of the 500?
hmm let me see
Why is Napoleon changing the hood material for 2023? Were there problems? I'm in the market and wanting to know before purchasing
The upper warming rack is available as an after market accessory, it is 28.5 inches wide, it won’t fit my Napoleon LEX 485 , which is 26.5 inches wide, in this video it looks like the rogue is narrower than the prestige, so maybe that upper rack would fit the LEX , the prestige in Canada is called the same or Phantom, it retails for $2050 CDN .
possibly? That I am unsure on
what about the grease marks on the matt black
whats the cleaning look like
it will take more care then the regular ones for sure, just like a matt finish car
Thanks to you I ordered me a Prestige Phantom yesterday after watching your videos. Too bad the rotisserie doesn’t come with the grill as standard here in Sweden 😒, I’ll have to buy it separately. You made me skip both the weber genesis and the broil king.😅🙌
Huge thanks from Sweden. If you find your way to Stockholm, Beers on me 🍻👌🏻
Oh awesome glad your enjoyed the video and it was able to help you! We think you 100% made the right choice!
Haha awesome! If we find ourselves there we will let ya know! Thanks again!
How wear resistant is the matte finish? I'm thinking of abrasion marks from ceramic plates on the side tables... Is that an issue?
that remains to be seen, it will for sure be more touchy like a car
Man I wish they made the 665 in the Phantom as well.
That would be awesome! In the Pro
Trying to decide between the Phantom Rogue 425 SE RSIB or the regular Prestige 500 RSIB since these are in a similar price range and the Phantom Prestige is a bit too high. What would you say are the main differences between the two? From watching some of your videos, it seems the main advantages of the Rogue are the upgraded warming rack and slightly lower price point while the main advantages of the Prestige are more vertical space, better hood, cooler knobs, and rotisserie included. I do like the matte black finish of the Rogue but don't really see it as an advantage due to it being more difficult to maintain/clean. Additionally, the larger grill size of the Prestige isn't really an advantage for me and I'd actually prefer to have it offered in the smaller 3 burner size at a lower price point. So, I'm torn between the two right now. Are there any other key differences I'm missing between the two? Do they both have the same grill grates or are they different?
I would do
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@@SteveDykstra1 I would go with the prestige you will be way happier with the cooking
Great video! How does the Phantom Prestige 500 compare to the Prestige Pro 500, outside the price difference?
the pro is the most upgraded and has interior lights
So just to confirm. The Phantom 425's side burner surface area is bigger than the regular XT 425?
yes, its the same as the SE
What is the wait time on the Phantom Prestige now? From order to ship time?
We should be seeing them in a week or two. Although I believe we are nearly sold out
Im looking to get a built in grill. I love this grill. Is it possible to just use the Grill without the cart as a built in ?
not really
I think this dude lost weight from the last videos I was watching.. good job, good reviews.
ha a bit yes
I saw a video of the Phantom Prestige 500 and it looked really dirty after a few cooks. More so than a standard Prestige 500. Can you confirm this?
Also, would you say the cast stainless steel grill grid and the custom warming rack are worth the $300 upgrade from the Prestige 500?
Hmm that’s hard to say. I haven’t cooked on it extensively. I think it’s worth it for the whole package just with how nice it looks in genreral
@@embersliving my main concern are the cast grates and the matte finish. technically cast steel is more brittle than forged or rolled stainless steel rods like in the Prestige 500. thats why they dont make cast stainless steel swords because theyd break. however, these look a bit thicker, so they might last longer simply because of sheer size.
the paint is also a concern. depending on how it was painted or finished, itll probably chip and weather. its too bad this is a brand new grill because theres no one to confirm this.
@@rilanthier thats great to know. out of curiosity, does napoleon send you user manual specific for the Phantom 500. On BBQ Guys, they have a PDF of the manual but it's for the regular Prestige 500. Obviously this grill requires different care than any of their other grills
@@rilanthier thanks! im saving that. any info on how to clean & maintain the grates?
@@rilanthier do you have to season/oil them like cast iron? or is low maintenance like stainless steel rods?
Any reason you could not swap the safety glow knobs from the Prestige series to the Rogue series?
That I don’t know
@@embersliving are you able to swap a knob and see if it works?
@@embersliving are you able to swap a knob and see if it works?
Do you think any of these pieces are dishwasher safe
I dont think so
I heard that flat finish is easily chipped....??
it does require more maintenance
is the phantom line more rust resistant? How does the regular prestige 500 fair against rust? Thanks
I would think they are the same, both do great as far as rust
Is the Phantom Rogue made completely in Canada?
Rogues are from China. Prestige is in Canada
@@embersliving Thanks! Thought these special edition Rogues would be different
How much for the prestige and the rogue phantom????
they are on our website www.embersliving.com
About to drop $$ on a 700 series Napoleon. Do you know if Napoleon will offered the 700 series in Phantom Black?
Unfortunately its only the Prestige 425 and 500, and the travel Q.
Best propane grill under 1k?
rogue or genesis
I just want the thermometer and grates 😂
Haha I hear ya! Hopefully they come out with the grates!
This host forgot his coffee that morning....
He also forgot that the rogue SE phantom has LED’s where as the non-phantom doesnt.
Frustrating that at no additional cost they could have put the colored LEDs onto the rogue se phantom...
Cast stainless burners on the prestige as he’s holding onto a cast steel grill grate.... Seriously get a coffee lol
all rogue SE have phantoms, unless your looking at a big box model
Napoleon Phantom Prestige grill is terrible. It discolors by the handles and will not come clean. A dime sized paint bubble flaked off my grill. It takes 2 1/2 hours for wings to cook in the basket. There are definitely cool spots on the cooking surface. Customer service is atrocious. I was on hold for 1 hour 3 different days before I gave up. The doors have a big gap. I want my Weber back!!!!
Oh man that sucks to hear. Personally ive had good experience with their customer service.