Good review. The Mk 3 is way lighter than the mk1. Squaddies don’t like the mk1 . I just bought the mk 3 and spent part of last weekend lugging it around Dartmoor with 16kg of kit in it. I tried a MK1 on only yesterday at our local army surplus supply,Strikeforce UK in Somerset. The pouches are rare and around £75 a pair. There is also a hydration pouch for the side of the burgen. I can get them for £15.00 each,but they are fairly slim fitting. All the best.
Cheers pal. Just got myself one of these and your video is a great help! Had a lot of packs in my time and got to say my first impressions on this one are very positive!
Good video Shov! I've been using the MK3 for a while and quite impressed with vertus; I ditched the waist belt, but its good with or without belt kit. Best wishes Gill 👍
How's it holding up. Some are saying it fall apart. After speaking to a few friends that have been issued with it all they are saying is the lads didn't like it due to too many straps and such ie they can't just open the top and dump.the kit in .atb.
shovel_reccy the MK3 that I have opens at the top and near the bottom like a traditional rucksack; however I have always liked the clam style rucksack as it’s easier to get and find stuff. IMO they are well made, higher standard to any civi pack, but I’ve not been throwing mine out of a 4 toner :) I have had the cord ties on the zips come undone so I’ve put a few stitches in each of them to stop that. The molle is really handy; like you said at £100 for rocket pouches a bit expensive so I add LMG pouches and put cook set or water bottle in those, 9 mm mag pouch on the left shoulder strap with torch in. The MK3 has a wider belt and I found it pulled the rucksack back and made me unbalanced with a lot of weight, easily solved just got rid of the belt and used the sternum strap instead; climbed a couple of mountains using it without issue which was a real test, wore it on a 12 mile speed march in torrential rain 12 kg and was comfortable. I put a few pictures up on Ivarr’s site too and a short review. Compared to my DPM PLCE it’s more comfortable and offers more options; if I have to choose then I choose Vertus ( my opinion I know not every one will agree) 👍
Decent review Paul. Clam shell design, MTP, to many separate hidy holes, too many zips and fiddly bits and a lot of the lad's down at Warminster Camp say they are not as soldier proof as the old PLCE bergen and quite a few say the zips burst if the pack is loaded, if it looks nice then stay away from it, cosmetics isn't functionality mate, DPM PLCE all the way. What's with the toy M4 Paul, you taking up Airsoft.
No.its my boys. Thing is I'm not hoofing around with all the kit soldiers do today soshould do me well and the weight saving is paramount to us older guys(and gals) these days if we still whant to get out on the ground.
@@shovelreccy Good shout. Yeah mate weight is definitely an issue for us old one's that's why packing only the gear needed is paramount, we are all guilty of packing in too much unnecessary gear just in case, but leave the just in case tat out and the weight is good to go. All depends on the situation really I suppose though.
Evening. Great Video as always. Just wondering if you are going to this years Prepper Meet. It'll be my first year, and I'm trying to find what's organized to happen.
Hi bud since my last comments on the virtus bag I have changed my mind in part , I have since acquired the 40 litre gu day sack with X2 assualt packs 17 litre each which also has a pouch for the bladder in each which has made these bag an almost carry anything , the daysack I find more comfortable than the gu Bergen ,but also have the Bergen u have there which is the 2015 version which is a short back both of these bags are hard-wearing , durable and now I highly recommend them 👍👍
Funny you should say that I sold this Bergen and treated myself to the jayjays beast Bergen but needed a good size day sack so I’m waiting for the 40ltr virtus pack to be delivered at the moment
@@shovelreccy great news Matey , can't wait to hear what u think about it also , I'm currently waiting to for the commanders 45 litre which is similar in design to the 2015 Bergen u had 👍will tell u what I think of that after multiple nites out with it, jayjays is stuff is great I got myself the gen 4 belt kit I highly rate it , jayjays sadley has been told they can't modify the virtus stuff by the mod 😭
I think it was more about too many straps and zips. I think they ate used to the old plce open and chuck it all in . That all I have heard. It'd going to be a learning curve with it as I'm used to the same. But carry wize and weight it's better than any ruck I have used . Atb .
It’s okay for hiking the vision 7 zips are okay and the bag is pretty tough , I currently live out of rucks 365 days a year and have had this 7 months continuy use but I still prefer PLCE bergens over this, keep an eye on the goarmy website last price for Virtus side pockets was £35
@@shovelreccy I’ve used this bag this year only all over highlands and now using it on this 800 mile hike from John o groats to lands end but when I get back to where I stay it’s straight back to my well loved Berghaus Vulcan 👍👍😁 and ditch the Virtus 😂 also if your planning and trip around cape wraith can I suggest the PLCE field and air support pack by marauder 159 liter internal capacity it’s a beast only 1000d but I use when doing this Walk
Have the mk 3 how exactly does the external pouch cover fit ?? .. the rocket pouches are a must only 5L so not massive like the old ones .. but worth while . Good vid brother ..
Hi. Thank you for that; It was interesting and I learnt from it. Health to use it. What type of waterbottle pouch (with pocket) was shown in the presentation? Stay safe. ATB. Nigel
Been offered one of these for quite a decent price. Already got a MK3 with rocket pockets but it's more of a short back and I'm over 6ft. Going on ebay soon minus rocket pockets 😉I've got a PLCE long back but looking for something else was looking into one of these. What's your thoughts on it now? Atb Derek
@@shovelreccy looks tough to me impressed, I’ve got the modded dpm plce like yourself love it and prefer dpm kit but you’ll av to do a review on it down the line, I like it👍
Good review.
The Mk 3 is way lighter than the mk1. Squaddies don’t like the mk1 .
I just bought the mk 3 and spent part of last weekend lugging it around Dartmoor with 16kg of kit in it.
I tried a MK1 on only yesterday at our local army surplus supply,Strikeforce UK in Somerset.
The pouches are rare and around £75 a pair. There is also a hydration pouch for the side of the burgen. I can get them for £15.00 each,but they are fairly slim fitting.
All the best.
Great video really helpful and very informative, I managed to pick one up for a good price in grade one condition. 😀👍
Cheers pal. Just got myself one of these and your video is a great help! Had a lot of packs in my time and got to say my first impressions on this one are very positive!
That is definitely built with a modern soldier in mind!
Nice Vid Paul , Very Informative and Thanks the Production 👍
Good video Shov! I've been using the MK3 for a while and quite impressed with vertus; I ditched the waist belt, but its good with or without belt kit. Best wishes Gill 👍
How's it holding up. Some are saying it fall apart. After speaking to a few friends that have been issued with it all they are saying is the lads didn't like it due to too many straps and such ie they can't just open the top and dump.the kit in .atb.
shovel_reccy the MK3 that I have opens at the top and near the bottom like a traditional rucksack; however I have always liked the clam style rucksack as it’s easier to get and find stuff. IMO they are well made, higher standard to any civi pack, but I’ve not been throwing mine out of a 4 toner :) I have had the cord ties on the zips come undone so I’ve put a few stitches in each of them to stop that. The molle is really handy; like you said at £100 for rocket pouches a bit expensive so I add LMG pouches and put cook set or water bottle in those, 9 mm mag pouch on the left shoulder strap with torch in. The MK3 has a wider belt and I found it pulled the rucksack back and made me unbalanced with a lot of weight, easily solved just got rid of the belt and used the sternum strap instead; climbed a couple of mountains using it without issue which was a real test, wore it on a 12 mile speed march in torrential rain 12 kg and was comfortable. I put a few pictures up on Ivarr’s site too and a short review. Compared to my DPM PLCE it’s more comfortable and offers more options; if I have to choose then I choose Vertus ( my opinion I know not every one will agree) 👍
@@GillianSmith thanks for the feed back .I must make time to go on ivars site more and have look at your post. Thanks and atb .
Great video, really informative.
Evening mate. Looks like a good setup an fits ya back well looking forward to seeing it out on the test run soon. Atb Andy 👍✌️🔥🇬🇧
Cheers mate so far it's performing well atb.
The basic bag reminds me of the LBT 9031A. Great review mate
Nice insight Paul, do like compartmentalized arrangement, sleek kit can tell your having fun with it already. Good on yu. Harry
Cheers mate does seem to be good at the moment. The test will be how it fairs after a trip away and Ivinghoe out of it .atb.
Cantactleft sell plce zips, you can cut one Virtus zip from each side and sew these in. Then you can use PLCE pouches
Decent review Paul. Clam shell design, MTP, to many separate hidy holes, too many zips and fiddly bits and a lot of the lad's down at Warminster Camp say they are not as soldier proof as the old PLCE bergen and quite a few say the zips burst if the pack is loaded, if it looks nice then stay away from it, cosmetics isn't functionality mate, DPM PLCE all the way. What's with the toy M4 Paul, you taking up Airsoft.
No.its my boys. Thing is I'm not hoofing around with all the kit soldiers do today soshould do me well and the weight saving is paramount to us older guys(and gals) these days if we still whant to get out on the ground.
@@shovelreccy Good shout. Yeah mate weight is definitely an issue for us old one's that's why packing only the gear needed is paramount, we are all guilty of packing in too much unnecessary gear just in case, but leave the just in case tat out and the weight is good to go. All depends on the situation really I suppose though.
Evening. Great Video as always. Just wondering if you are going to this years Prepper Meet. It'll be my first year, and I'm trying to find what's organized to happen.
Hi bud since my last comments on the virtus bag I have changed my mind in part , I have since acquired the 40 litre gu day sack with X2 assualt packs 17 litre each which also has a pouch for the bladder in each which has made these bag an almost carry anything , the daysack I find more comfortable than
the gu Bergen ,but also have the Bergen u have there which is the 2015 version which is a short back both of these bags are hard-wearing , durable
and now I highly recommend them 👍👍
Funny you should say that I sold this Bergen and treated myself to the jayjays beast Bergen but needed a good size day sack so I’m waiting for the 40ltr virtus pack to be delivered at the moment
@@shovelreccy great news Matey , can't wait to hear what u think about it also , I'm currently waiting to for the commanders 45 litre which is similar in design to the 2015 Bergen u had 👍will tell u what I think of that after multiple nites out with it, jayjays is stuff is great I got myself the gen 4 belt kit I highly rate it , jayjays sadley has been told they can't modify the virtus stuff by the mod 😭
never seen one in the flash, but all i have heard has been negativity about the quality.
Will be interested to see how it holds up.
I think it was more about too many straps and zips. I think they ate used to the old plce open and chuck it all in . That all I have heard. It'd going to be a learning curve with it as I'm used to the same. But carry wize and weight it's better than any ruck I have used . Atb .
It’s okay for hiking the vision 7 zips are okay and the bag is pretty tough , I currently live out of rucks 365 days a year and have had this 7 months continuy use but I still prefer PLCE bergens over this, keep an eye on the goarmy website last price for Virtus side pockets was £35
Mate I agree with you on that and have gone back to my plce bergen.
@@shovelreccy I’ve used this bag this year only all over highlands and now using it on this 800 mile hike from John o groats to lands end but when I get back to where I stay it’s straight back to my well loved Berghaus Vulcan 👍👍😁 and ditch the Virtus 😂 also if your planning and trip around cape wraith can I suggest the PLCE field and air support pack by marauder 159 liter internal capacity it’s a beast only 1000d but I use when doing this Walk
Let the army go mate! 😂
Have the mk 3 how exactly does the external pouch cover fit ?? .. the rocket pouches are a must only 5L so not massive like the old ones .. but worth while . Good vid brother ..
Hi. Thank you for that; It was interesting and I learnt from it. Health to use it. What type of waterbottle pouch (with pocket) was shown in the presentation? Stay safe. ATB. Nigel
The water bottle pouch is an issued Australian one atb .
@@shovelreccy Thank you!
About time you made a new video...Good to see you, mate! Oh... MTP? Heretic!
To be honest mate I quite like it in mtp. Yep life took over for a bit and hope to get some more vids out in the coming months. Atb .
Does this mean the mtp bashas coming out? The boys are gonna disown ya 😂
Where would you put your sleeping mat?
Inside as I would use a inflatable one not a foam one
I have mtp karrimor sf 60 to 100 good pack but few quid that's bargain tbh 80 ,90 sorted
Been offered one of these for quite a decent price. Already got a MK3 with rocket pockets but it's more of a short back and I'm over 6ft. Going on ebay soon minus rocket pockets 😉I've got a PLCE long back but looking for something else was looking into one of these. What's your thoughts on it now? Atb Derek
I still like it for just going out with it on its own just try it loaded if you can
@@shovelreccy Thanks. I'll give it a go
Would the map water bladder zip to the side ?
The vetus water blader fits tongue side zips but not my cup of tea mate so I will run it without pouches till I can get some at realistic prices.
Looks good to me but all you hear from squaddies is negativity saying there crap and fall to bits and prefer the plce
I think it should be OK as I'm not going to be throwing it about like the old days will see how it fairs its well built though
@@shovelreccy looks tough to me impressed, I’ve got the modded dpm plce like yourself love it and prefer dpm kit but you’ll av to do a review on it down the line, I like it👍
all surplus is going slowly for silly money