'dont talk negative, life's just not long enough to talk negative' he says at 2:30 - I wonder how many of us 'normals' would come up with something like that and mean it...
I saw him in Viborg Teater, Denmark many years ago.Except for his humming while he was playing at first part of the concert, it was very well played. He has a great personality, and he made me feel happy.
@RMENIAN88 I was at an Airport with David and someone came up to him and asked if he was Geoffrey Rush?... To which he replied in his brilliant and quick wit,, " No but I played Geoffrey in the Movie Shine"
Well, the difference between illness and sanity is not whatever it is that happens in your mind, but how it affects your abilities to life in society -moreover, I am a problem only if other beings tag me as 'a problem'. You could have a potencial problem, never categorized as "illness" unless it affects these social abilities. So if I close my eyes and listen to his renditions, he might not be the best cannonical pianist out there, but his music touches me, and he is high more enthusiastic and poignant than most "commercial and always perfect" performers.
That is exactly what I wanted to read after seeing the caustic stuff written by certain music critics. i dont give a toss if he isnt perfect....They invented clockwork children in the 18th century who could play perfectly. it is what comes through the player that matters and makes one want to listen. Those who criticise Helfgott as being mediocre are jealous of his success and possibly and worse, feel he doesnt deserve his success, having been ill.
the brain is the most complicated organ in the body. it is what makes us individuals, and gives us our personality . despite its complexity just like any other organ, it can brake or become damaged. I'm afraid if you cant understand this then your individual brain lacks in comprehension
Get PAST his "illness"....he was a man obviously driven by such a PASSION for playing piano and giving LIFE to music. Enough of this analysis of his brain. It's unfair. So many of us have one and go on to do brilliant things. David Helfgott had a difficult life, but so many triumphant moments, that we should just celebrate his personal achievement with him and share in his beautifully-made music!
I read somewhere that the father was not the person he was made to appear.. he was worried about his son. ..and did he not provide for a good education (not everyone does)! Anyway does anyone know if he really collapsed on stage in that concert as shown in the movie?
Only one of his siblings, Margaret , had this opinion. nobody from his family or friends agreed with her. It is common for one child in a toxic family to stay in denial. i believe than a common cause of mental illness(when it isnt pathological) is toxic and neglectful abusive parents.
According to the books I have read (by Gillian Helfgott, Beverly Eley and Margaret Helfgott, respectively), the collapse was just for the film, as a dramatic device.
He actually talks like that! (nobody minds. Since he is so lovable.) To doctors: genetic? And how genetic is the eagerness to please? How genetic to suffer when one´s parent treat one like his father did? (it IS genetic to be a human being. If you belong to the species homo sapiens.)
You've gotta consider though that it's a film and quite sensationalized as all Hollywood is. There's no telling what the real truth behind his story is.
From what I understand, the representation of David's father in the movie is not at all accurate. This is according to members of his own family and those who knew him. The filmmakers were pretty irresponsible in that regard
Not quite. Youre right that theres a dispute. One of davids sisters says it was an unfair portrayal. But david and his wife stand by it. Apparently his first words upon hearing the premiere were 'i wish my father had been that kind'. Pretty sad really. But youre right that his sister disagrees with the portrayal.
Is that really his, though, or has he been spoonfed that stuff by therapists and his wife? I mean, the ole' 'life's too short' adage is pretty well used up.
I'm sorry, I don't understand the mental illness. Why does he talk so much and often repeat what he says? Also, why does he feel like the need to touch everyone?
Seeing this only makes me appreciate Geoffrey Rush's performance evem more.
He's a very sweet person.
'dont talk negative, life's just not long enough to talk negative' he says at 2:30 - I wonder how many of us 'normals' would come up with something like that and mean it...
He has no illness ever. He is one of most sensitive persons in the world. He is just another pure genius.. He is amazing and brilliant.. I love him...
You must be joking.
I saw him in Viborg Teater, Denmark many years ago.Except for his humming while he was playing at first part of the concert, it was very well played. He has a great personality, and he made me feel happy.
@RMENIAN88 I was at an Airport with David and someone came up to him and asked if he was Geoffrey Rush?... To which he replied in his brilliant and quick wit,, " No but I played Geoffrey in the Movie Shine"
David is lovely!!!
OMG he speaks just like the movie!
Love this guy!! Funny as hell
Well, the difference between illness and sanity is not whatever it is that happens in your mind, but how it affects your abilities to life in society -moreover, I am a problem only if other beings tag me as 'a problem'. You could have a potencial problem, never categorized as "illness" unless it affects these social abilities. So if I close my eyes and listen to his renditions, he might not be the best cannonical pianist out there, but his music touches me, and he is high more enthusiastic and poignant than most "commercial and always perfect" performers.
That is exactly what I wanted to read after seeing the caustic stuff written by certain music critics. i dont give a toss if he isnt perfect....They invented clockwork children in the 18th century who could play perfectly. it is what comes through the player that matters and makes one want to listen. Those who criticise Helfgott as being mediocre are jealous of his success and possibly and worse, feel he doesnt deserve his success, having been ill.
I'd die to get one 5 minutes lesson from him
Respect.
aaaaaaay que linda persona! David Helfgott
the brain is the most complicated organ in the body. it is what makes us individuals, and gives us our personality . despite its complexity just like any other organ, it can brake or become damaged. I'm afraid if you cant understand this then your individual brain lacks in comprehension
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Get PAST his "illness"....he was a man obviously driven by such a PASSION for playing piano and giving LIFE to music. Enough of this analysis of his brain. It's unfair. So many of us have one and go on to do brilliant things. David Helfgott had a difficult life, but so many triumphant moments, that we should just celebrate his personal achievement with him and share in his beautifully-made music!
love the movie
I read somewhere that the father was not the person he was made to appear.. he was worried about his son. ..and did he not provide for a good education (not everyone does)!
Anyway
does anyone know if he really collapsed on stage in that concert as shown in the movie?
Only one of his siblings, Margaret , had this opinion. nobody from his family or friends agreed with her. It is common for one child in a toxic family to stay in denial. i believe than a common cause of mental illness(when it isnt pathological) is toxic and neglectful abusive parents.
According to the books I have read (by Gillian Helfgott, Beverly Eley and Margaret Helfgott, respectively), the collapse was just for the film, as a dramatic device.
No, he didn't. The film is a complete fiction, and disrespectful to the true history of that poor family.
Ahhhh ha ha great comment!!! lol......so true! I love David Helfgott!
I hope I never meet a true "normal".
@RMENIAN88 they look exactly the same!
He actually talks like that! (nobody minds. Since he is so lovable.)
To doctors: genetic? And how genetic is the eagerness to please? How genetic to suffer when one´s parent treat one like his father did? (it IS genetic to be a human being. If you belong to the species homo sapiens.)
Yep, 100% agree agree, I think the Dr is full of sh1te.
You've gotta consider though that it's a film and quite sensationalized as all Hollywood is. There's no telling what the real truth behind his story is.
From what I understand, the representation of David's father in the movie is not at all accurate. This is according to members of his own family and those who knew him. The filmmakers were pretty irresponsible in that regard
Not quite. Youre right that theres a dispute. One of davids sisters says it was an unfair portrayal. But david and his wife stand by it. Apparently his first words upon hearing the premiere were 'i wish my father had been that kind'. Pretty sad really. But youre right that his sister disagrees with the portrayal.
Well there are so many mental illnesses out there, how can we understand them all or why people have them
Is that really his, though, or has he been spoonfed that stuff by therapists and his wife? I mean, the ole' 'life's too short' adage is pretty well used up.
I'm sorry, I don't understand the mental illness. Why does he talk so much and often repeat what he says? Also, why does he feel like the need to touch everyone?