Is A $130 Knife Sharpener Better Than A $1000 One?
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guys lets get something straight, just because a product does not yield the result you expect does not mean i did it wrong, i didnt show every single thing i did in the sharpening process because its boring and this is not an instructional video it is a comparison, for those wondering yes i did create a bur and yes i did got through all the steps properly, and this was the result, and it was a great result it was just slightly less then the $130 sharpener. could an absolute master have got a better edge? absolutely, but i am the average consumer and thats who im comparing these things for. anyone who is a knife sharpening master isnt watching youtube videos to decide which sharpener is better but the average consumer is and for the average consumer the $130 is a better option for 1/10th the price
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What was the 130 one? I may need to invest 🙈
amen sister. Ive been wanting one of those belt sander gizmos for years. I think I might have get me a black friday one at cabelas this year! My kitchen knives are literally awful, like embarrassingly dull and jagged. As far as your 100 grit surprise, I have used an actual belt sander flipped upside down to sharpen chisels for years and Im telling you even with an 80 grit belt I can get them extremely sharp. 120 grit belts will leave them razor sharp and quite accurate/straight... I have gotten a ton of side eye from that technique but Im tellin you with a little practice it works great.
Haters gon hate
I'd like to see you take an actual butter knife and see how sharp u can make it with all 3 sharpeners
he already did that.
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this is the video he did it in.
Absolutely I hope this is his next video
that’s what i was thinking
@@glennquagmire34 I was just about to share it lol
I'm really pleased with this! It works like a charm ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxDcr-y2Pf6xdnrFHrSP7dl9kpKaCozcSQ Takes less time than my old electric sharpener because it can take more off the knife faster, and then it smooths out nicely with the finer grit polisher. I don't know how long it will last before the grit wears away, but I wouldn't mind having to replace it every once in a while.
"Honey, the neighbor man is sharpening his knives again. It worries me sometimes how many knives he has and how they all seem to get dull all the time."
Lol id hate to be his Neighbor... I can hear him screaming at his mom... Mom Stop Going in my room
He just been sticking some squealers is all
They only get dull because of all the haters he chops up
"Woman! How many times did I tell you to mind your own business?!"
I see these comments on hone with leather. I think what they mean is to strop the knife after sharpening to remove burrs. Anyway your comparison was eye opening. That belt sharpener sure looks good.
But he's testing how sharp the KNIFE SHARPENER will sharpen the knife. not how sharp will this plus this get it
@@halidron2 Huh?
my friend you are correct I agree with the stropping the blade I came here to tell him the same not to bug nor pester but to inform and to be helpful people who have to put there outgoing comment on are the ones who never could before and know they can’t be touched for pity hate comments I hope you have a beautiful day
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Stropping is usually not used to SHARPEN the knife. It is to remove the burr.
Similarly you can also drag the edge along a piece of wood. It'll get knocked off. Then give it a couple quick polishing swipes on the stones.
Leaving the burr on can go both ways, the burr can be so fine it's the sharpest thing ever, until it's knocked off. Or it can be bent to the side and feel duller than it should.
All of that said: polishing stones no longer remove enough material to form a burr (it removed micro scratches) and none of the above should be necessary.
That's what barbers rub the straight edge razors on in old movies.
Not only does the 130 dollar sharper get the knives a lot sharper, it's less manual labor to just pull it across while the motor moves the belt :p That's an added appeal for a lot of people.:p
Yeah I don't want to do all of that work, I don't care how sharp it makes the knife
Yeah all the 1000 knife sharpener is a glorified sharpening stone which are way better at sharpening anyway and faster
@@beefboss4203 way better? If it gets the knife to 145 who the fuck is saying yeah but akchually athome wuuks bettuh
@@jer280 sharpening stones can get knives to that sharpness and even sharper while costing 5% of the thing and are easier to use
@@beefboss4203 what? Sharpening stones are like $10 a piece and get fucking filthy. I wish all of you commenters who don't even have knives actually used what you're pretending is so good.
I can feel the one guy in the comments already typing " Give me a lansky puck and some spit, maby a good old strop on my belt, and I'll get er down to a razer edge".
Some ppl can but they have to have a shit ton of experience
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That's me lol
Or the top of a truck window works great
@@justenhearn5179 I've used the top of my truck window many times in the field. Bottom of a coffee mug works great too.
The 1000 dollar knife sharpener takes off a lot less metal than than the work sharp. Your knifes wont last as near as long. Tho I agree that the 1000 dollar knife sharpener is not worth the price.
Yeah 1000 dollars for that is quite crazy to me. Also the stones seems quite expensive for it, and its kinda crazy it doesnt come with full set on that prize. Eventually you would have to buy new ones too as those wear out.
The other issue is heating the metal which can damage the tempering. That's why stones are the best for sharpening good steel.
More reasons to buy more knives.
@@jorlejoca I thought the same thing until I actually used one. The belt doesn't run fast enough to put enough heat into the metal to take the temper out. Not even close. Plus you can vary the pressure you're putting on the blade, so if you see it heating up at all you can back off a bit.
@@jorlejoca this is nonsense. The factory you got yours from belt sanded the edge on your knife. A quarter inch piece of sandpaper isn't going to fuck up your quench Mr forged in fire
I own the work sharp and it's a beast. The guide also comes off and you can use it to sharpen tools like axes and such. Great video Tyler keep it up 🤙
Same I wouldn’t trade my worksharp for any other sharpener
Amen!
you would think for a $1,000 knife sharpener they would make a better clamping system for the knifes
For that expensive sharpenening, its for people who know how to use it. it's not foolrpoof, its skill dependant.
@@Jexorz86 if your a pro at sharpening a knife or not dosnt determine the clamping ability of a clamp
@@brentbennett5401 no but it determines if you need a good clamp or not otherwise it would have one for that price edit i don't think this is worth $1000 by any means but its a funky device
@@xd-qi6ry that is like saying a good mechanic doesn't need a good jack
@@brentbennett5401 Yeah they do, otherwise the car can fall and kill them.
Maybe do it again but only go to the 1000 grit belt? And I have to say I am sad that we didn't get a water bottle test 😔
1000 grit aint even sharp bro everything bellow 3000 grit is for me considered dull
@@sayianstakepain ok
Im a knife maker and it really is about technique. I own both of these sharpeners, i got the work sharp when I first started and ya it gets them sharp but the edge geometry is awful and inconsistent. Its good for hunters because u can just run it through real quick and its a decent edge. But when I started getting better I really wanted to wow my customers with the quality and sharpness of the edge. I tell you what those 2 sharpeners arnt even on the same league. Not even close. I can get a knife so sharp that hairs literally pop off your skin. So sharp you can cut receipt paper standing on its own. Tyler is treating it like a kit you should just buy and instantly get amazing results but thats not what it is. Its not for beginners and its not something you just pick up. Its for professionals. It comes with a dvd or should have came with one and you need to watch over and over and practice and learn all the features and learn how to set up the knife. You dont just pop it in the vice and go to town. There is more to it than that. Its a process. I have nothing against his review, i just think hes thinking because you drop a grand on it you should just be able to pick it up and be pro but thats just not what it is. Keep practicing and watch the vids that go with it and I promise you it will blow that work sharp out the water. It seems insane to spend that much on it but as a actual knife maker the this paid for itself so fast. The sharper edge made people want to buy more because u cant buy a knife that sharp at all. And i have made a ton on sharpening other peoples kitchen knives. I also do maintenance on the knives I sold to people. I do it twice free and the rest $20. I get alot of repeat customers from this. As a newbie dont buy this. Buy it if you plan on giving it the time and if you are a maker or a enthusiast.
Tbh this is hard to believe cause of your name
Am sure you are right, it’s clearly not a kit just to use in the kitchen for normal use; it’s more for people like you, who are knife sharpening enthusiasts, but with all that said the $1000 knife sharpener could definitely use some more user friendly upgrades, like the handle not holding all types of knife as it was wobbling when sharpening, they could also put some more brick grits as it only went up to 1000 grits as the higher ones are required to be bought
I'd love Tyler to have someone who is showing him how to use the 1000 dollar one, so he's really well versed. But on the other hand Tyler being Tyler is part of the channel appeal lol
You are right. I still think the wicked edge is too expensive. I went with a kme and I can whittle hair only going to 600 grit. It's all about understanding how to sharpen in the first place. I see a lot of people jump into these guided systems before they even know what a burr is.
MidnightHDGamer when set up right it doesn’t do all that wobble stuff. Its already as user friendly as it can be and still be so precise. If you want those results and you want to spend 1k on a sharpener that can do that you need to be willing to do the work to set it up and get those results. In the kit they include everything you would need. Most knives you really should only use up to 1000 grit. They are going to be used and get dull anyway so the super mirror polish is a waste. For 99% of knives 1000 grit is just fine and razor sharp. The stone is high quality and expensive so if they took it to 5000 grit the kit would cost $1500 instead of 1000. I rarely take it past 2000 so 1000 is completely fine. No matter what sharpener you get you will never achieve those results without putting effort into it.
you reallllllly need to hone these knives after sharpening. In fact, you should do a whole video on honing! Steel vs leather vs etc...
I think if you had a leather belt for the 130$ you would be in great shape.
You can hone with cardboard too, not as good, but its cheaper and it works. Or just use the bavarian edge that he already has. That is a honer not a sharpener.
Strop
the belt sander ones are good until you notice that you have half a blade left from one sharpen.
Yeah, because on a barely dull knife, you always start at the coarsest grit and high SFPM
In the latest Project Farm video called Russian vs Usa knife sharpener he used the wicked edge knife sharpener on a dulled knife and got a result of 85. His stones went no higher number than yours.
I watched that video aswell there is definitely some user error going on
As someone who commented last time, I agree it’s not bang for buck, but as I said, that $1000 sharper is meant for an accurate edge, it’s not finished, that’s why it only goes to 1000 grit… that comes from every chef I ever worked with… also ignore the haters mate, good job Tyler.
Don't let them comments get to you brother. Haters are going to hate. Keep up the good work. I appreciate ya.
@@GAR45TH I'm sure he is looking up how to use the items he buys. If I spent $1000 on a knive sharpener. I would do some research first forsure. He doesn't go in looking for negatives. He uses these products so if we want them he let's you know what to do and not to do. Like the tip where the knive holds in. For a thousand dollars that shouldn't be like that. I'd rather spend $130 now instead of $1000 because it works better for less. He helped me save.
I may be mistaken but I believe on the high dollar sharpener you use the peg type insert and only sharpen one side and set the angle and work it to a burr or wire and then adjust and sharpen to an even edge on the other side, not using both side simultaneously, but I may be wrong, either way it looks like you got a very nice edge on the knife
On most high dollar sharpeners you actually do that, but this high dollar sharpener is mainly designed for using both sides simultaneously.
@@ameraburajouh8781 I wasn't sure, either way would make its own sense. I still use stones and leather strops
@@kygunworks4982 Im curious how much of a difference leather strops make. I've got a lansky sharpening system and it has a ceramic stone would a strop still make the knife that much sharper?
@@Qballl yes
@@Qballl I can't give you a numerical number but u will say a good polish strop job will make edges cut much cleaner, especially on maintaining an edge, I use jewelers rouge on my straight razor and it's dangerously sharp after a strop
The Wicked Sharp in my opinion is really for enthusiast's and custom knife makers.
I think you should review the lansky kit.
I have a lansky kit. Does great.
You are absolutely correct, for 99% of people the worksharp will be amazing and do everything they need and more. I have a worksharp KO edition myself + the blade grinding attachment and strop belt kit and it's amazing! There's however a few differences that matter to the last 1%:
The worksharp makes the blade run very hot, so there are pervasive concerns that the heat treatment of the blade could get damaged and that knives sharpened with the worksharp are more brittle and will dull faster.
Second is that the worksharp will always produce convex edges which could be undesirable for some.
The last thing is that the wicked edge is aimed at enthusiasts who will have high grit finishing stones and strops with compounds going up to 160000 grit. As mentioned, the worksharp leaves a convex edge, so you can't easily put it on a higher grit stone afterwards and even stropping can be more difficult. In other words, the worksharp caps out at 145 while with the wicked edge you can attain single digit numbers, you just need more stones and strops and accessories for finishing touches.
I usually just have water nearby like a glass to keep them soft
Turn the speed down and keep the blade cool.with water. You don't need sparks. Dry after you cool with water. If the blade is changing color you're doing it wrong
Move the pully on the BGA to get straight edges .
Only if you're sharpening wrong will the worksharp heat up the blade .
I disagree with a lot of what you said. The heating the blade up to detemper the steel is completely false. It's not going to detemper the steel unless you are negligent. 2 convexed edges are going to be just as sharp and just as polishable as V edges.
I've used loads of sharpeners and by far my favourite are the mdf wheels with silicone carbide on them. Really quick and really sharp.
Every knife sharpener that requires the knife to be fixed in a clamp that is stationary has one huge disadvantage, most noticeably with longer knives. You won't get a consistent angle all along the edge, especially at the tip because the further away the blade is from the sharpening stones, the steeper the angle gets. If you use for example this 1000 bucks expensive sharpener or a Lansky system your edge will be wider at the tip and it will look like crap.
Its always a good day when Tyler uploads
True
So what the title should be. Which is easier to use. a $130 knife sharpener or a $1000 knife sharpener.
Stop hating. Everyone makes mistakes. Just because you can't seen them in person doesn't mean you are any better if they were right in front of you. Keep up the videos Tyler! I got your back. People can give feedback to let you know but they ain't gotta be a Richard about it.
I have a friend named Richard and he is very nice.
@@cutlogic181 can't swear so another name for Richard is what there are 2 Rick and replace R for D and there you have it.
@@christianmartinez4485 can't swear?
@@christianmartinez4485 weird
I'm confused what you just said, what?
You should watch Project Farms video of this sharpener
That expensive knife sharpener is a device that you must practice with to get the best results. There is a technique
Thats with any sharpener, the point of the edge pro is ease of use and consistency. You can take any sharpener and make a knife sharp to be honest, hell I've seen a 5 dollar knife sharpener do it with like 100 passes. Really tbh I'm not a fan of the edge pro, I think they charge far to much for the product and the stones. My tsprof cadet works pretty good for half the price, had a kme which I liked but it was way to finicky for my likimg
I could be wrong, but I think the benefit to the $1,000 sharpener is that the knives will last longer. The $200 sharpener is sanding off more metal to get the edge. That's largely a guess on my part based on limited sharpening knowledge and experience. A pro knife sharpener probably has better ways to justify the high price.
Personally, I'd stick with the $200 sharpener or even the $5 sharpener Tyler showed in another video.
Just because something costs 1000 dollars doesn't mean it's worth 1000. That's why people get but hurt.they would pay for it and now feel stupid
Just because something is expensive, it doesn't mean it is good or even better than cheaper things as we see here.
also Tyler doesn't know how to use it. he atleast should've used leather to hone the knife.
to be fair, he also does it wrong and when it comes to sharpening makes Alot of difference.
Why use a leather strop when he didn't on the other knives either.besides it was up to 1000 grit and the other sharpeners were carbide and ceramic.it should have preformed way better than them with that logic
It rotates so you can take off the guides and sharpen an axe
Tyler, you should also try out the worksharp precision adjust knife sharpener, it's only $50 but you can also get the upgrade kit that has more stones with the sharpener for like $130 I think. I personally use this sharpener to sharpen my knives 👌
I would love to see that, that sharpener gets a hair splitting edge with virtually no effort. Possibly the best sharpener I've used.
The kit is like $80 or so bucks. The whole setup is about $130 if you buy the elite kit which comes with everything. That’s not even mentioning the after market parts that let you use so many different stone grits and brands.
@@norcalbowhunter3264 3D printed a three-sided holder same size as a work sharp. I ordered 3M lapping film and use that on the work sharp precision adjust.
This is a high skill tool vs an idiot proof tool, being done by someone who does not have many years of experience.
Very true but not many people have years of experience and one is just much better for the general population for the price point, skilled works man who create blades or use them vigorously might see the need for the precision of the $1000 one but for most people it’s just not necessary.
Tyler have done some manual sharpening with normal sharpening stones(wet stones) , like one you put on a flat surface , and he get a better edge on it.
I'm pretty sure the 1k$ one is supposed to have less skill involved cuz it have a pre-determined angle/guide to sharpen to.
The vice just sucks, even project farm ("scientific tyler") , said it kinda sucks, because if you are searching for manual tool, wet stones are better.
I don’t like how the work sharp rounds tips off and you can also get uneven sharpening causing dips along the edge of you aren’t careful. It also removes too much material. I always use stones…gets sharper and knives last longer that way.
I used mine on cheap kitchen knives first or cheap knives. Now I can get mirror finished edges with my Ken onion work sharp with the polishing belt and I am very good at doing it now. It takes practice to be perfect. You gotta practice how to do the tip. It just takes time.
I'd rather have a bandfile, clamp the knife in a vice and then bring the sander to the knife instead of vice versa. More control; this is how I sharpen all my yard tools.
Yeah, Ken Onion sharpener with the blade attachment is a huge upgrade to that system. No rounded corners.
Stones are good and dandy but they take more time. Especially when using whetstones, having to clean and flatten them. Just general maintenance can be tiresome. I personally like both Edge Pro system and Work Sharp but for different principles.
If I'm spending $1,000 on a knife sharpener, I better not have to touch the knife or sharpener... I shouldn't even have to be in the room and my knives are just sharp when I come back...
The head on the work sharp rotates to sharpen axes and tools. I use my work shop every year to sharpen my axe it works great
Wait, For real?
@@Thatguy60929 yeah its great and makes it super easy to sharpen the axe and takes way less time
I still appreciate Wal-Mart project farm just as much as the real thing!
Did you just call Tyler a Walmart version of the channel, project farm
Project farm. My go to for most tools now?
@@paulmartin7854 Yes, and I think that it is a fair statement to make. Wal-Mart isn't bad just slightly lower quality with more drunk people in sweat pants living their best life.
Both play their part in my watching. I watch Tyler for entertainment and mildly for info where I watch project farm for info and mild entertainment. Both are great channels
I like Tyler a lot more. Project Farm is a bit dull. I end up skipping to the charts for the most part.
@@inibrius5380 I tend to like project farm more, but it's cause I probably cause It's straight forward
I think you are not realizing some of us have knives worth more than either sharpener. Not just monetarily. The belt sander is going to take a lot more steel off, and reduce the life of the knife. Plus, until you use the other one as intended (properly) you can't judge it.
How long did it take to sharpen the knife with each unit. I gotta imagine the belt sharpener was way faster.
The wicked edge I probably took 25-30 minutes cause I was being careful but the work Sharp maybe 8-10 minutes
I had bought the wicked edge pro Gen 3 that you're showing in this video. Honestly it was a disaster. Maybe I just didn't use it correctly but who cares for a thousand bucks, it should be easy enough to use and get razor sharp results. I currently use chef choice Tri-Zor 15 XV and it gives me way better results and very quickly and easily. Thanks for the video
I’ve been looking at the work-sharp for years. Thanks for the comparison.
Yesterday I watched your $1,000 sharpener vs a Work Sharp $4 video. Today I discovered this one, which is more meaningful to me as I have a Work Sharp KO and would be lost without it. Having said that my favourite method is sandpaper which is not for everyone as that requires skill. I regards to the $1,000 model, to me that wouldn’t be worth a flip, unless there are attachments that you didn’t mention and even so I still question it. My sword blades wouldn’t fit into the vise which seems a little rinky-dinky. Not to mention trying to use the stones on something as short as my shorter machetes without numerous repositions. I have Work Sharp KO as mentioned earlier. That one will handle everything from my kitchen knives to ≈32” swords. I’ve got an antique kukri with a 13mm spine that is shaving sharp, try your $1,000 on that. As for you not figuring out the advantage to rotating the Sharpening Cassette, remove the Sharpening Guide group and then rotate the Sharpening Cassette to a suitable angle and then sharpen free hand if necessary. The narrow purple belt (6000) was designed to be used on hooks and serrated blades. If the fine belt is too coarse for you try it worn or get a leather one. I’ve saved my worn-out fine belts to us with a polishing compound such as white or red jeweller’s rouge. In both videos I get the idea that you don’t fully read the instructions. I’ll take my Work Sharp any day over that $1,000 klunker.
Tyler, the WorkSharp sharpener has the pivoting head so that you can sharpen tools. Such as lawnmower blades and axes, where moving the sharpener will have more control than moving the (awkward, heavy, or curved) blade to be sharpened. (The angle guide should come off as well, to help facilitate the tool sharpening process)
For $1000 I expect the clamp to be better, and get 6 sets of sharpening stones, I could buy a brand new iPhone wit $1000💀
What if the knife isn't supposed to sit in the clamp like that? Either way I would never pay that much for a sharpener. For that much it should do all the work for you. Lol
You used the stone sharpener wrong. I just watched a tutorial on it and you go downward with the stones, not upwards like you were. But the ken onion is a beast!!!
The main benefits of something like the Wicked Edge comes from being able to get very accurate angles and allowing for precise micro bevelling. It's definitely a tool geared towards the high end enthusiast and professional maker/sharpener, and the price reflects that. Shame to see the vice grip didn't do you justice, I have used the cheaper model (I don't personally own one, just got to spend some time with one) and I really enjoyed it. Would love to see your take on something like a Tormek if you like powered sharpeners!
The WE also allows you to easily repeat the exact bevel that the knife was sharpened to the last time. When I sharpen knives I charge $5 for the initial sharpening and $3 for subsequent sharpenings.
which is pointless for a knife
@@PorchPotatoMike $5? You can barely get a bigmac for 5 bucks
honestly $1000 for a knife sharpener is a rip off, at that price point you're better off buying a 2x72 belt grinder that can do everything that does and so, soo much more...
It doesn't matter how good the tool is if the person using it is clueless... Sorry Tyler you are lost when it comes to sharpening knives.
As a knife enthusiast, and as somebody that enjoys sharpening knifes, I can tell you the 1000 dollar sharpener is better, but since it isn't powered it will take longer. It also needs some honing oil to get the best results, along with proper technique learned only through experience.
Now would a set of maybe say 100 dollar stones do just as good as that 1000 dollar system if you have your technique correct?
@@Qballl Yes, and better, but only if you got the hands for it
@@bakerboy8910 I imagine it's gonna take some steady hands. I've tried using stones but tend to be a little inaccurate with keeping my angle so I just stick to one of them lansky systems and does good enough for me get's me a hair cutting edge.
the other thing is it requires no power source and only manual
The $1000 knife sharpener is definitely better if he were to just get the higher grit stones for it. I wouldn't say it's worth $1000 but you can definitely get a sharper blade with it over the worksharp
The cheaper one will take a lot more of the blade off, if you have a really expensive knife that you want to last your life time you would want the expensive one.
Hey love the video and you are bang on for the majority of people but I do think you are missing a point, not saying its done intentionally but it is an important one for those who use expensive knifes regularly.
Belt sanders remove a lot of material quickly, it would be substantial If you imagine a chef having his knife sharpened once every month or two the knife would wear down pretty quickly using a belt sander. You also have to be careful not to change the profile of the blade which is easily done with a belt sander.
That is the main reason sharpening stones are still so popular you get great sharpening with minimal material removed. As belt sanders are almost always used when a knife is first made to put its first edge on. Every tool has pros and cons and it does hugely depend on the situation and type of knife to say which one was best for everyone.
Oh not saying a £1000 knife sharpening device is worth it by the way I use normal flat sharpening stones that cost me £70 and i have sharpened my wusthof knifes for the last 10 years on the same stones and both the knifes and stones are still going.
So my advice would be learn a skill do it cheaper than both those devices for years to come no power cord, belts or wobbling clamp needed. 👍
true whetstones /diamond/ ever other freehand sharping stone removes alot less material than beltsanders. also you need to polish your edge to remove the previous gritt scratches :) for optimal performance
This guy saying it feels crazy sharp just because he can feel an aggressive bur reminds me of myself a while ago lol
I’ve used the worksharpe before. The one downside I have against it, is that it’s a lot easier to mess up the blade. Because the belt is spinning so fast, if you aren’t careful, 1 pass is enough to mess up the blade, then you have to spend a lot of time and possibly remove more blade then you wanted to fix the blade.
That’s why I prefer hand sharping using the lansky or the manual worksharp sharpener. I don’t sharpen too many knives, so having a motorized sharpener isn’t a pro for me.
or you can just buy the attachment for it with all the angles
Bro I love this channel. I don’t know why but it’s so satisfying. The videos are so interesting
Your 1000$ one requires use of mineral oil on the stones. If you don't use the oil it won't sharpen correctly.
You should do some kind of bushcraft video. Like building a shelter or testing fire starters. You could also do a video on survival kits or survival tools
Great video as always Tyler! ❤️
You didn’t even watch it yet bruh
@@ftgodlygoose4718 doesn't need too you already know a video from tyler is gonna be good
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@TylerTube How long did it take to sharpen the two knives using the two sharpeners?
I have a ken onion edition. I quit using it becuase of the diffrent directions u end up sharpening at depending on which side of blade. So u end up fighting the pull anf the push of the belt. Just not ideal so i do freehand
The $1000 sharpener has more versatility and you can use it on more the regular knifes
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I got an idea for a video about stropping your knifes. is it effective?. or is it a waste of your time?.
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The $1000 sharpener is a waste of money.
He’s just not using it right
I own both the Work Sharp Ken Onion (WSKO) and the Wicked Edge (WE) sharpeners I do not yet have the blade grinding attachment for the WSKO but am leaning in that direction. If I had it to do over, I would go with the WSKO with the blade grinding attachment and perfect my technique. I also have water stones but find that for me, I don't want to spend that much time perfecting and maintaining my sharpening technique. I like easy, quick and effective. The additional stones for the WE really add up.
Blade grinding attachment desperately needs a guide system it's extremely difficult to maintain the exact angle by free handing .
Damn the ken onion sharpener cutting tomatoes at 1 atom thickness
A 3D printed sharpener from CNC Kitchen youtube channel works basically the same as the $1000 one but costs like $30 to make.
Dear tyler tube could you please try to sharpen an Axe now with the Ken onion. It's made for axes also
Did you notice there is a small lever on the base that allows you to control how tightly the jaws clamp onto the knife?
This is how much money he spends on products for his videos 😃👇
What about the paper test I was waiting all video for it
Tyler I worry you do not sleep enough. You look sooooo tired.
They’re right, tyler. The $1000 tool is a machine for professionals and, when used and adjusted properly, is superior. There’s knowledge and technique that you’re missing.
Nah the professional knife sharpeners wouldn't use this at all, they just do it all manually with sharpening stones after starting with a belt sander. Also a self called professional sharpener is as pathetic as an audiophile.. who claims the ancient vinyl is the highest quality music format that there is and then goes ahead and buys $10k speaker wires to "improve" the sound of his record player that produces hiss and distortion. The factory 200 edge is already sharp enough and the $130 sharpener does beyond that and way faster too. As tyler said it's simply superior and much cheaper to achieve a better than good enough edge
@@beardsntools what they would use is irrelevant when discussing the device’s design and purpose.
the 130$ sharpener changes the metal hardness on the knife because the sandpaper transfer more heat to the knife due to friction so the knife that was used on the 1000$ sharpener long term will hold its sharp edge alot long then the knife that was used on the 130$ sharpener.... do a long term knife test between those knifes
@TylerTube
People really be arguing over a knife sharpener they can’t afford lmao
So one big thing about the Ken onion sharpener is that it completely changes the profile of your knife edge from a flat edge to a convex edge
Why are each stone different colors on each side is it different grit
I'm sure there's something very satisfying about using that $1000 sharpener and maybe there's a bit of technique to it where you could get things sharper (though I doubt you're gonna do much better than Tyler in this video) but the price tag is insane for what appears to be literally just a vice, some moving arms and sharpening stones.
Bro you didnt remove the burr on the 1000$ one
And that is exactly why the vice on the expensive sharpener has those two pre-determined depth gauges, so that the knife can sit higher and the sharpening stones don't make contact with the vice.
Love my Works Sharp sharpener!!!
This is not how you use either of the machines.
Test a Tormek, you'll be blown away
The little guard is for the knives that are too thin its to elevate the knives that when you put them in the vice to the bottom the cutting edge is under the level of the top, that's why the knives your using wobble with the little bit in they are too high
You absolutely MUST strop the knives after sharpening. Otherwise you're only testing a burr. Strop both test knives and then test their sharpness. Keep up the good work! Love your channel!
Exactly so many people know so little about sharpening a knife. It’s pains me to see both of those not being stropped to remove the burr, they could’ve been so much sharper
You got 15 grams for 5000 more grit.
I’m not sure why, but I feel like a Tyler and badlandchugs team up would make a awesome video.
They just seam like they would match each other so we’ll.
You should sharpen the katana
The best way to test how sharp a knife is to let the weight of the blade cut into a strawberry with no unbalanced forces applied and you'll see a massive difference between how sharp an edge feels compared to how sharp it actually is, a4 printer paper tests end up dulling the knife and aren't a consistent representation as the paper is too thick it carries the blade through (magazine paper is much thinner and against the grain is a great test as most knives without being that sharp won't pass through it), tomatoes show nothing to do with sharpness just how thin you wanna make them slices unless you do the same test with it as you would with the strawberry it could be a decent indication.
Quick edit, when you dropped that tomato on the knife and did the slicing without holding it that was quite a bad performance on the knife usually you can drop it within a foot or less and it should cleanly cut, (not quite sure which one it was the 165 or 145).
Also i don't think you should do both at once but it probably is designed to be used that way i've never used one before but if you do one side the same way you would use a whetstone then strop after stroping is what gives the knife the sharpness the way you;re doing it if i'm not mistaken is grinding the metal as that certain degrees which flattens the apex out on both sides which gives no burr
Both sharpener s are junk
U forgot to do the water bottle cut test
I would not put a 1000$ Grimsmo Rask in that belt grinder 😂
No one would he just doesnt learn or admit he makes mistakes and actually tries to see a proper tutorial which is fine if thats what he wants to do but unfair for the people that see it as a good representation of both performances and an comparison in which one to buy
Mr fruit ninja over here.
Ironically, Worksharp make a $50 sharpener that works the same way as the $1,000 one lol. You should test the $50 vs $1,000! I love both of Worksharp's electric and manual $50 one! Also, you shoud strop them a few times to really see a more accurate and sharper knife. 10-20 strokes on a peice of leather does wonders!
I think the $1k sharpener is causing a slight fold over as you go. I'm not exactly sure how to solve that, but that is the common thing I see in the comments.
Tyler's doing another knife sharpening video because he doesn't want things to get dull on his channel.
This comment is so true
I love my Ken onion sharpener, especially with their blade grinding attachment. It easily does axes,tools etc. That and an edge pro apex
I would have stopped at the 1000 grit belt with the WorkSharp just to give the $1000 knife sharpener the benefit of the doubt. But I didn't think about that until after the tests so I have no right to talk
Can the $15 sharpener get those knives below 200?
I love my worksharp ken onion edition, also most knives from the factory are only done up to like 600 grit for the toothy edge