A though for your sprayer line that you "never use" but want to keeo it from freezing. If you antifreeze the system, then just pump water and use it as you normally will. The antifreeze will be stuck at the "dead end"... I have a outdoor shower, i dont use it at all, but when i antifreeze my trailer once a year (or once every two years! Depending on use). That shower end ALWAYS still has antifreeze in it, and i have to wait for it to drain untill i get fresh water. Meaning it will never freeze as long as i dont use it after antifreezing the system! Even if im using water for my sinks, toilet, etc! Because thats seperate water lines!
I only watched this because I was trying to figure out how to keep water in it over winter. I wouldn't trust just letting the pressure out of lines. Despite the durability of pex. Too many, variables all the water goes to low points and one elbow cracking and your hosed. I know an RV guy who has to repair broken pipes too many times to trust it. Also I have too be in areas for work that might get well below 5 degrees. But you gave me the idea of blowing the lines with air every time I thought it was going to get below freezing. It's easy to do and doesn't take long. That's the approach I am going to take. Simple portable air pump with right connection to make it super easy. I might even hook it up permanently so it's a matter of turning on the pump and then blowing out each line. Thank you for the idea. And thanks for the battery recommendation.
Only thing I can say, is water will ONLY expand and burst a pipe when it has no where to go... The faucets on the outside of your house freeze, we don't antifreez or drain them.. the water inside the house is warm, so it can't expand and blow up the pipe Same as if you have a half full pipe. The water will freeze, and expand UP the pipe, but won't just magically expand sideways and blow the pex up. That's why it you blow them out, it allows space for the water to expand. Air compressors much better then water/ice Air will never reach high enough pressure to blow up your line, simply by ice pushing on it lol....
Lightbulbs have been keeping pump houses from freezing forever. My Aunt had a pump house on a farm in Central Saskatchewan that would get down to -40 below regularly in the winter. They work great.
So is that -40c or -40f? I know people who used to put the light bulb under the hood of the car when the block heater would die or if the car didn't have one.
I’m not sure what happened as it was before I bought it. Just remember that the outside wall of that water heater is exposed. So for me, I’d rather use a little propane at night to be safe
I’ve watch probably 50 videos trying to find out how long the batteries and propane would last while boondocking in cold weather. This is the only video I’ve found actually telling me what to expect! Thank you for making this! You all have a beautiful family and I truly wish you all the best. Again, this is the only video I’ve found that’s useful on boondock camping😊
Hands down, the best winter racing video..? Thanks for the awesome tips.. I have a trip coming up that is going to require a little cold exposure and I’ve had trouble finding enough info to get me through. After watching this video my confidence has increased by quite a bit. I know what I need to learn, can have a confident approach to my trip. You guys are pretty awesome.! 👍🤠
I wish more RVs came equipped for winter. outlets for running heating implements in bays & behind service panels would help a lot. I just winterized my rig today & it sucks not being able to use my water!
I love that part of the country. Lived in the San Luis valley and Northern NM for a bit. I saw your video about the Nash trailer and winter RVing. I have a Artic Fox 25r that I use a couple days a week year round. Plugged into power so I can run a space heater and I have propane heat thermostatically controlled if power goes out. I really like the thermostatic plug/lightbulb idea also. What's the coldest you have done in a travel trailer? Im hoping the space heaters actually keep it livable.
I personally hate the colds but being in Canada it's here every year. I've filed several complaints but so far no results. Steps we are taking to deal with it for next year so we can boondock year round. 1.Taking out the electric fireplace and putting in a zero clearance pellet insert. The space will be prepped before the insert goes in for added fire protection. 2. there is flaring all around our trailer that hangs down about 10 inches. I will insulate this space and put tin under it to protect the insulation. 3. venting so the heat will get to the areas underneath to keep the water from freezing. 4. Increasing our solar capacity to 900 watts Limited roof space with all the other things up there. might be able to increase that a bit with a couple of portable ones I can put out when parked. Space being the issue. 5, lithium batteries. My math so far and I am sure it will have to be redone again is 1,200 amp hours will be more than enough.
You could put a Chinese diesel heater in as well, they literally just sip fuel. There are several vids outthere on installing. I have a friend that has one and he swears by it.
The spray line for the black tank should be easy to protect. Get an adapter and blow some air through it. That will clear the water. As long as you don't put water back in it everything will be fine.
@@AdventureEndeavor it works great on cold nights as well. It's dry heat so no worries about moisture like with propane. Saves the propane for cooking and the hot water heater :)
You're doing stuff right if you haven't had any frozen pipes. Have housing prices started dropping in Durango yet ? I'm in Michigan they have dropped maybe 5% I envy you two , I mean 3.
I'd love to know your thoughts on this camper vs your Nash in winter conditions. I'm looking to get an RV soon that can specifically handle cold weather. The ones that pop up the most are Northwood, Lance, and Grand Design. Ive watched your video about camping in the nash in cold weather and it sounds like that one held up way better in the cold conditions. Is that just my perception or did you find the Nash to be able to hald the cold better as well?
Ok real question - I am winterized in my Momentum 25G right now but plan on taking it to a local state park today. There is only one night where it gets below freezing, possibly the upper 20's at night. Otherwise it's above freezing for the next 10+ days. You think I'm ok just using the fresh holding tanks? Make sure I have propane that night and I think we ought to be ok...
@@AdventureEndeavor yeah that’s what I figured - I’ll have electric hookups - the water situation at this particular park is weird - but in general I don’t need much but the bathroom basically. Thanks for answering back so promptly! I’m literally about to leave work and go hook up.
Hey guys, I have several questions for you I’m probably getting a camper that has the Grand design that has the arctic package. Do you guys have the Arctic package in your camper and it seems like you have 23°. Your plumbing is not freezing but you’re also not pumping the water through the pump and how often you guys go camping in the winter and what are some of the great chips that you can give.
Yes we have the artic package. We are just not pumping water ONCE we got to bed. It works perfectly fine in the morning. We will see temps in the 17-20° probably 3 times a year
@@AdventureEndeavorwow, that's a lot of solar. I feel like we aren't building enough into our setup, but, my cousin, who does this full-time, is certain 600W is going to be enough to charge in our area, and I trust him. We will also have a generator and a DC-DC charger with an inverter as well. Oh and 4 12v batteries I believe are in the build as well.
@RootBeerTuna it all depends on what you plan on running. We are full-time and now have 2 kids. Bottle warmer, coffee pot, AC, electric water heater, other appliances ect. We didn't want to struggle with power. We almost nerver use or generator
@@AdventureEndeavor that's true, yeah, it'll just be my partner and i and a dog, possibly our cat, not running too much except the heat in the winter, the lights, microwave, fridge, and charge our devices when needed, so really we don't need a lot of power i wouldn't think. I believe that's why we will be fine. I'm more worried about water while boondocking
I think that Nash was way better. But the Grand design did fine honestly. We really loved the layouts GD offered, we may add tank heaters and a little more insulation down the road.
Thank you so much for your quick response. Great videos. Been in debate between the 2 for winter Vermont homestead. No real stats on the Nash for R Values and extra stats. Any extra content you have for peace of mind would be great.
A though for your sprayer line that you "never use" but want to keeo it from freezing. If you antifreeze the system, then just pump water and use it as you normally will. The antifreeze will be stuck at the "dead end"...
I have a outdoor shower, i dont use it at all, but when i antifreeze my trailer once a year (or once every two years! Depending on use). That shower end ALWAYS still has antifreeze in it, and i have to wait for it to drain untill i get fresh water. Meaning it will never freeze as long as i dont use it after antifreezing the system! Even if im using water for my sinks, toilet, etc! Because thats seperate water lines!
Thank you for the tip. We appreciate you watching
I only watched this because I was trying to figure out how to keep water in it over winter. I wouldn't trust just letting the pressure out of lines. Despite the durability of pex. Too many, variables all the water goes to low points and one elbow cracking and your hosed. I know an RV guy who has to repair broken pipes too many times to trust it. Also I have too be in areas for work that might get well below 5 degrees. But you gave me the idea of blowing the lines with air every time I thought it was going to get below freezing. It's easy to do and doesn't take long. That's the approach I am going to take. Simple portable air pump with right connection to make it super easy. I might even hook it up permanently so it's a matter of turning on the pump and then blowing out each line. Thank you for the idea. And thanks for the battery recommendation.
Glad you found it helpful!
Only thing I can say, is water will ONLY expand and burst a pipe when it has no where to go... The faucets on the outside of your house freeze, we don't antifreez or drain them.. the water inside the house is warm, so it can't expand and blow up the pipe
Same as if you have a half full pipe. The water will freeze, and expand UP the pipe, but won't just magically expand sideways and blow the pex up. That's why it you blow them out, it allows space for the water to expand. Air compressors much better then water/ice
Air will never reach high enough pressure to blow up your line, simply by ice pushing on it lol....
Lightbulbs have been keeping pump houses from freezing forever. My Aunt had a pump house on a farm in Central Saskatchewan that would get down to -40 below regularly in the winter. They work great.
That's great to hear I believe it helped us out!
So is that -40c or -40f?
I know people who used to put the light bulb under the hood of the car when the block heater would die or if the car didn't have one.
One thing I would add is to keep your water heater turned on. My first rig had a busted water heater tank from freezing.
Really, even with the furnace set to 60? Our tank is literally right beside the furnace. Interesting
I’m not sure what happened as it was before I bought it. Just remember that the outside wall of that water heater is exposed. So for me, I’d rather use a little propane at night to be safe
Yeah definitely not a bad idea.
I’ve watch probably 50 videos trying to find out how long the batteries and propane would last while boondocking in cold weather. This is the only video I’ve found actually telling me what to expect! Thank you for making this! You all have a beautiful family and I truly wish you all the best. Again, this is the only video I’ve found that’s useful on boondock camping😊
So glad you found it helpful! It was challenging but we made it work. Thanks for the kind words about our family
Hands down, the best winter racing video..? Thanks for the awesome tips.. I have a trip coming up that is going to require a little cold exposure and I’ve had trouble finding enough info to get me through. After watching this video my confidence has increased by quite a bit. I know what I need to learn, can have a confident approach to my trip. You guys are pretty awesome.! 👍🤠
Great glad you found it so helpful!
Cub is growing so fast! He’s such a cutie!! I’m sure Zamboni provides some nice, snuggly heat. 🐾❤️🐾
Omg he is getting huge! They are getting along great!
I wish more RVs came equipped for winter. outlets for running heating implements in bays & behind service panels would help a lot. I just winterized my rig today & it sucks not being able to use my water!
That's a bummer! It's fairly common to have outlets in the wet bay.
Snowed in! Sometimes fun, sometimes ... not so much. Good info.
We enjoyed it!
Propane lock up is the biggest struggle. They make tank blankets to keep the tanks warm so the propane will function properly.
Yeah we didn't have that issue probably wasn't cold enough
I love that part of the country. Lived in the San Luis valley and Northern NM for a bit. I saw your video about the Nash trailer and winter RVing. I have a Artic Fox 25r that I use a couple days a week year round. Plugged into power so I can run a space heater and I have propane heat thermostatically controlled if power goes out. I really like the thermostatic plug/lightbulb idea also. What's the coldest you have done in a travel trailer? Im hoping the space heaters actually keep it livable.
I think this trip was the coldest about 18° for four or five nights straight
I personally hate the colds but being in Canada it's here every year. I've filed several complaints but so far no results.
Steps we are taking to deal with it for next year so we can boondock year round.
1.Taking out the electric fireplace and putting in a zero clearance pellet insert. The space will be prepped before the insert goes in for added fire protection.
2. there is flaring all around our trailer that hangs down about 10 inches. I will insulate this space and put tin under it to protect the insulation.
3. venting so the heat will get to the areas underneath to keep the water from freezing.
4. Increasing our solar capacity to 900 watts Limited roof space with all the other things up there. might be able to increase that a bit with a couple of portable ones I can put out when parked. Space being the issue.
5, lithium batteries. My math so far and I am sure it will have to be redone again is 1,200 amp hours will be more than enough.
Love our GD Imagine has an artic package. It hits 60 degrees we panic! 😂
There's a reason SNOW is a 4 letter word. 🤔
No need to panic, they can go way lower.
You could put a Chinese diesel heater in as well, they literally just sip fuel. There are several vids outthere on installing. I have a friend that has one and he swears by it.
Yeah I've seen them. I think we are ok with the furnace for now, but potentially if we do a custome build
Well done. You are very talented and organized.
Thanks Greg. Organized is definitely Melissa, most likely the talent as well.😅😂
Thanks for the video stay warm and safe
Thanks for watching, likewise!
The spray line for the black tank should be easy to protect. Get an adapter and blow some air through it. That will clear the water. As long as you don't put water back in it everything will be fine.
Oh that rear spray port was just a hose and we have never used it lol. So we are probably ok
Get a diesel heater and tie it into your heating system. You'll be at 70+ degrees for pennies on the dollar compared to proparne. You're welcome
That's probably a good idea but we don't do enough winter camping to bother. Thanks for the advice though.
@@AdventureEndeavor it works great on cold nights as well. It's dry heat so no worries about moisture like with propane. Saves the propane for cooking and the hot water heater :)
It's also only $120-150 for it too. So it's super super cheap.
You're doing stuff right if you haven't had any frozen pipes. Have housing prices started dropping in Durango yet ? I'm in Michigan they have dropped maybe 5% I envy you two , I mean 3.
Thanks Ken. I think the prices are still up, but to be honest i think we put buying on the back burner.
I'd love to know your thoughts on this camper vs your Nash in winter conditions. I'm looking to get an RV soon that can specifically handle cold weather. The ones that pop up the most are Northwood, Lance, and Grand Design. Ive watched your video about camping in the nash in cold weather and it sounds like that one held up way better in the cold conditions. Is that just my perception or did you find the Nash to be able to hald the cold better as well?
I think the Nash was better. The heater runs a lot in the grand design but it held up. A lot of cold weather if skip a GD
Ok real question - I am winterized in my Momentum 25G right now but plan on taking it to a local state park today. There is only one night where it gets below freezing, possibly the upper 20's at night. Otherwise it's above freezing for the next 10+ days. You think I'm ok just using the fresh holding tanks? Make sure I have propane that night and I think we ought to be ok...
I would think you would be fine as long as you keep the furnace running. We saw 18° multiple nights and has zero issues
@@AdventureEndeavor yeah that’s what I figured - I’ll have electric hookups - the water situation at this particular park is weird - but in general I don’t need much but the bathroom basically. Thanks for answering back so promptly! I’m literally about to leave work and go hook up.
I THINK you'll be fine.
Hey guys, I have several questions for you I’m probably getting a camper that has the Grand design that has the arctic package. Do you guys have the Arctic package in your camper and it seems like you have 23°. Your plumbing is not freezing but you’re also not pumping the water through the pump and how often you guys go camping in the winter and what are some of the great chips that you can give.
Yes we have the artic package. We are just not pumping water ONCE we got to bed. It works perfectly fine in the morning. We will see temps in the 17-20° probably 3 times a year
How much solar do you have and what's your battery capacity?
We have 2190 watts of solar and 600ah of lithium batteries.
@@AdventureEndeavorwow, that's a lot of solar. I feel like we aren't building enough into our setup, but, my cousin, who does this full-time, is certain 600W is going to be enough to charge in our area, and I trust him. We will also have a generator and a DC-DC charger with an inverter as well. Oh and 4 12v batteries I believe are in the build as well.
@RootBeerTuna it all depends on what you plan on running. We are full-time and now have 2 kids. Bottle warmer, coffee pot, AC, electric water heater, other appliances ect. We didn't want to struggle with power. We almost nerver use or generator
@@AdventureEndeavor that's true, yeah, it'll just be my partner and i and a dog, possibly our cat, not running too much except the heat in the winter, the lights, microwave, fridge, and charge our devices when needed, so really we don't need a lot of power i wouldn't think. I believe that's why we will be fine. I'm more worried about water while boondocking
@RootBeerTuna you can get a composting toilet and or a water bladder. We have videos on both
Was is your grand design more insulated or did the Nash do a better job?
I think that Nash was way better. But the Grand design did fine honestly. We really loved the layouts GD offered, we may add tank heaters and a little more insulation down the road.
Thank you so much for your quick response. Great videos. Been in debate between the 2 for winter Vermont homestead. No real stats on the Nash for R Values and extra stats. Any extra content you have for peace of mind would be great.
I would definitely go with a Northwood product if you are going to be doing a lot of winters.
Oh man! If you’re sweeping snow off you solar panels…you’re doing this wrong 🤣😂🤣 I escaped NH for a reason, lol
Haha it was fun for us CA kids. We never got snow!
This may be my first Winter EVER, in 52 years, without seeing snow. I have to admit…I’ll miss it!
Well we are very happy for you! We know NH winters are rough.
Hey its Dakota from New Orleans how have u been
We have been great!