Richard Attenborough did a good job of portraying Christe in the movie. John Hurt was excellent as Evans, it captures the grimy mood of Notting Hill in those days. Now those houses would have been worth millions.
You are so right there....Notting Hill was so derelict in the 70's. I used to stay occasionally at a squat in Notting hill, and about 3 yrs ago, it was sold for over six million. [St Lukes road] . The film ''Notting Hill'' boosted it massively. Need a film made of where I live now, to make it worth millions:)
The classic '10 Rillington Place' film starring Richard Attenborough (Christie), Judy Geeson (Beryl Evans), John Hurt (Timothy Evans) and Pat Heywood (Ethel Christie) has recieved a full 4k restoration and been transferred to blu-ray. Has anyone else read Mr.King's account of Rillington Place? Mr. King moved into Christie's flat in 1958, Mr.King would often have a disturbed night's sleep, woken up in the night to feel the oppressive, dark energy of a woman, Mr.King bought insence to try and cleanse 10 Rillington Place, it is not said if he was successful. 'Rillington Place' received a face lift in the late 50's or early 60's when the entire row of the fronts of the houses were all nicely repainted, all except no.10 which wasn't repainted. In the classic film most shots were done in another house in 'Rillington', also studios were used, one scene however shows Attenborough (Christie) standing in the actual bay window of no.10, imagine standing in the exact bay window the real Christie stood, the scene is where Christie is watching from the window, nets pulled back at the police round the manhole cover. You also see Attenborough leave No.10, (the scene where Christie leaves 'Rillington Place' for the last time.
The film 10 Rillington Place has one of the best British Performances ever by Richard Attenborough. He's convincing and disturbing because he does not portray a monster, rather a caring, quite man in Christie. Was nearly banned because people were still angry that innocent man with learning difficulties Timothy Evans had been executed for a murder committed by Christie. Another fine performance by John Hurt.
No10 was the very last house in Rillington Place which ran into the railway wall. Today Bartle Road is the access road and it runs parallell with the wall which is still there. So, if you walk along Bartle Rd, at some point you will be passing through the door of where No10 used to be. I've just been there today(3 April 2012) and the place looks totally different from what it appears in footages shown here. I didn't ask the residents though !!
What a lot of people forget is that Notting Hill used to be a really horrible, down-at-heel slum and what you might call a "shithole". There aren't many places like that left in modern London and Notting Hill itself didn't start to "gentrify" or become desirable and expensive until the 1980s or so. Clapham was the same until the early 90s. --- The map at 0:15 in this video shows the old houses backed up against the railway wall with No. 10 on the opposite corner. Looks like No. 10 used to be roughly where Bartle Road joins Kingsdown Close (in the front garden of a modern house), with the original cul-de-sac railway wall demolished. You can see the rough brickwork on the other side where that wall used to connect up. On the other side of the street there are now parking spaces where those houses used to be.
When I was working on the nearby Westway motorway in the late 1960s, Rillington Place was still standing. It is disgraceful that these slums remained standing for nearly 20 years after the dreadful Christie murders. Then a sort of gentrification occurred, with demolition of the area and the building of Grenfell Tower.
Fanatastic footage of Rillington Place, especially helpful as just found out most of my family were born at no 4 and no I'm not any relation to Christie. Thanks for the insight.
I remember grants....outrageously generous! but I was lucky enough to get a small one for my house here, just before they stopped doing them. They gave them out to all and sundry, to the rich as well as the poor, and some people in London did fantastically well out of property- the generation before mine made an absolute killing.
Yes, the 'Postie' is wrong about the location - it was 'behind the garden area, which is 'rumoured' to be the site. However an internet investigation, using an Ordnance Survey overlay, shows the site of the house is 'behind' the garden area, where another block is built on the site. What some of these 'experts' forget is, that the 'new street of Bartle Close is 'further back' as the houses on the other side of the street, were not rebuilt 'into the middle of the road'.
Yes, I think that is correct. As you stand in Bartle Road, the memorial garden actually sits where the road in front of the properties was. The site of the house itself is now underneath that modern block set back from Bartle Road. I find it quite strange that they did this, knowing that the block sits directly over where the house was - it would have made more sense to have the garden running right back to Lancaster Road. I can only imagine they guessed people wouldn't know where the exact location was at the time, which was probably true.
Yeah tjf, there is an article 'somewhere' on the internet I'd seen, where a Norwegian Composer, lives on the actual site/today's building but is quite philosophical about it - in that, he said 'Oh well, there's plenty of sadness in buildings elsewhere/anywhere else!'
Ps Middx That's right, I have read that article - it's on the Independent website. Interesting to read that there was an elderly gentleman living in the same block who thought his home was cursed and wanted it to be exorcised!
Yes, in the early 70's Notting Hill was still shabby, and I lived in a squat also at Bow, E3, and that sold at £310,000 a couple of years ago- ditto a georgian house [squat] in Lansdowne drive, London fields has now been tarted up and is unrecognisable to what it was. We had to move from London to be able to afford a house of our own, squatting was too insecure, the houses often 'condemned' and in a dangerous condition- and landlords a terrible ripoff. West of England much cheaper :)
Yes,I had the book back in the early 70’s,lent it to a friend,lost touch with that friend and never had the book returned.I was gutted.Put me right off lending books.It was an excellent book.Last night I watched the movie again after decades (thanks to my son hunting it down for me and attaching a USB stick to the back of my TV,)and I enjoyed it just as much as I did when the movie was first released.The acting was superb!
Check out 10 Rillington Place by Old men on the Drink.I wrote that song after visiting the area, 18 years ago,..check out bumberchuff channel for other good stuff.
The book 10 Rillington Place by sir Ludavic Kennedy a must read details discrepancies by the police and evidence not submitted in court which lead to the death of an inocent man Evans. The day evans was due to be hung my mum joined other women at Pentonville and protested against the execution of evans as they belived him to be inocent little good it did, also when they demolished no 10 the took the orignal kitchin and housed it in Maddam Tussauds chamber of horrors.
Nottinghill from slum to celebraties paying a million pound to now live there and portabella road used to sell rags and brick a brack now all antiques, how times change.
when pierrepoint hanged christie, his bottle went and pierrepoint had to wave harry smith his assitant away and drop him without strapping his feet together, if he had not done this christie would have fainted before he reached the drop.when the executioners entered the condemned cell, christie sneered at them thinking they were well bellow his status, but soon changed his mind on the way to the drop, he was down and dead in 13 seconds minus the leg straps.
Pierrepoint was very well known for getting the job done quickly without any arsing about. I think he even managed an execution in under 10 seconds once.
you still get these houses i England ,..so depressing...Im American and I hate looking at those row houses.....last time I was on business in London..you still see them a lot..why dont they pull those hovels down?
@pentogram23 Most likely because we live on an island and with the ever more population problem of our government letting in all kinds of foreigners claiming asylum (more so than any other European country) then houses will continue to be built on council estates as you see in the above clip, plus there's alot of buildings as such as these that are deemed 'listed' and cannot be pulled down due to an historical factor.
wait let me put the Record on again....I like old technology.....Now listen....It's an LP record....here goes...." UGLY HOUSES ,,,Of all ther VISITS to the UK..still they are there.in their UGLY FORMS ".....
Richard Attenborough did a good job of portraying Christe in the movie. John Hurt was excellent as Evans, it captures the grimy mood of Notting Hill in those days. Now those houses would have been worth millions.
You are so right there....Notting Hill was so derelict in the 70's. I used to stay occasionally at a squat in Notting hill, and about 3 yrs ago, it was sold for over six million. [St Lukes road] . The film ''Notting Hill'' boosted it massively. Need a film made of where I live now, to make it worth millions:)
shame but things and places have to move on ... may all those who died at Rillington Place may there souls R.I.P.
The classic '10 Rillington Place' film starring Richard Attenborough (Christie), Judy Geeson (Beryl Evans), John Hurt (Timothy Evans) and Pat Heywood (Ethel Christie) has recieved a full 4k restoration and been transferred to blu-ray. Has anyone else read Mr.King's account of Rillington Place? Mr. King moved into Christie's flat in 1958, Mr.King would often have a disturbed night's sleep, woken up in the night to feel the oppressive, dark energy of a woman, Mr.King bought insence to try and cleanse 10 Rillington Place, it is not said if he was successful. 'Rillington Place' received a face lift in the late 50's or early 60's when the entire row of the fronts of the houses were all nicely repainted, all except no.10 which wasn't repainted. In the classic film most shots were done in another house in 'Rillington', also studios were used, one scene however shows Attenborough (Christie) standing in the actual bay window of no.10, imagine standing in the exact bay window the real Christie stood, the scene is where Christie is watching from the window, nets pulled back at the police round the manhole cover. You also see Attenborough leave No.10, (the scene where Christie leaves 'Rillington Place' for the last time.
"mind you its a very interesting condition , syndroooome as we call it "
The film 10 Rillington Place has one of the best British Performances ever by Richard Attenborough. He's convincing and disturbing because he does not portray a monster, rather a caring, quite man in Christie. Was nearly banned because people were still angry that innocent man with learning difficulties Timothy Evans had been executed for a murder committed by Christie. Another fine performance by John Hurt.
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No10 was the very last house in Rillington Place which ran into the railway wall. Today Bartle Road is the access road and it runs parallell with the wall which is still there. So, if you walk along Bartle Rd, at some point you will be passing through the door of where No10 used to be. I've just been there today(3 April 2012) and the place looks totally different from what it appears in footages shown here. I didn't ask the residents though !!
I am related to Rina Maclennon
What a lot of people forget is that Notting Hill used to be a really horrible, down-at-heel slum and what you might call a "shithole". There aren't many places like that left in modern London and Notting Hill itself didn't start to "gentrify" or become desirable and expensive until the 1980s or so. Clapham was the same until the early 90s.
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The map at 0:15 in this video shows the old houses backed up against the railway wall with No. 10 on the opposite corner. Looks like No. 10 used to be roughly where Bartle Road joins Kingsdown Close (in the front garden of a modern house), with the original cul-de-sac railway wall demolished. You can see the rough brickwork on the other side where that wall used to connect up.
On the other side of the street there are now parking spaces where those houses used to be.
When I was working on the nearby Westway motorway in the late 1960s, Rillington Place was still standing. It is disgraceful that these slums remained standing for nearly 20 years after the dreadful Christie murders. Then a sort of gentrification occurred, with demolition of the area and the building of Grenfell Tower.
They don't know poverty today; this was how some houses really were!
@MarcJboy
It was from the film 10 Rillington Place, staring Richard Attenborough as Christie circa 1971
Fanatastic footage of Rillington Place, especially helpful as just found out most of my family were born at no 4 and no I'm not any relation to Christie. Thanks for the insight.
I remember grants....outrageously generous! but I was lucky enough to get a small one for my house here, just before they stopped doing them. They gave them out to all and sundry, to the rich as well as the poor, and some people in London did fantastically well out of property- the generation before mine made an absolute killing.
Yes, the 'Postie' is wrong about the location - it was 'behind the garden area, which is 'rumoured' to be the site. However an internet investigation, using an Ordnance Survey overlay, shows the site of the house is 'behind' the garden area, where another block is built on the site. What some of these 'experts' forget is, that the 'new street of Bartle Close is 'further back' as the houses on the other side of the street, were not rebuilt 'into the middle of the road'.
Yes, I think that is correct. As you stand in Bartle Road, the memorial garden actually sits where the road in front of the properties was. The site of the house itself is now underneath that modern block set back from Bartle Road. I find it quite strange that they did this, knowing that the block sits directly over where the house was - it would have made more sense to have the garden running right back to Lancaster Road. I can only imagine they guessed people wouldn't know where the exact location was at the time, which was probably true.
Yeah tjf, there is an article 'somewhere' on the internet I'd seen, where a Norwegian Composer, lives on the actual site/today's building but is quite philosophical about it - in that, he said 'Oh well, there's plenty of sadness in buildings elsewhere/anywhere else!'
Ps Middx
That's right, I have read that article - it's on the Independent website. Interesting to read that there was an elderly gentleman living in the same block who thought his home was cursed and wanted it to be exorcised!
Lol - yes, must be the same website as I remember that, too, thanks!
Here is an excellent site which shows the exact location maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/
I'd never heard of this film. I just watched it in the wee hours, creeped me right out.
Bottle street may be haunted
Yes, in the early 70's Notting Hill was still shabby, and I lived in a squat also at Bow, E3, and that sold at £310,000 a couple of years ago- ditto a georgian house [squat] in Lansdowne drive, London fields has now been tarted up and is unrecognisable to what it was. We had to move from London to be able to afford a house of our own, squatting was too insecure, the houses often 'condemned' and in a dangerous condition- and landlords a terrible ripoff. West of England much cheaper :)
amazing, was this from a TV series or something or dvd? I'd like to copy it
Yeah I saw it late '89 on the telly. Forty years after it. Book is hard to get.
There are plenty of freely available books on the subject including the one by Kennedy they based the film on.
Yes,I had the book back in the early 70’s,lent it to a friend,lost touch with that friend and never had the book returned.I was gutted.Put me right off lending books.It was an excellent book.Last night I watched the movie again after decades (thanks to my son hunting it down for me and attaching a USB stick to the back of my TV,)and I enjoyed it just as much as I did when the movie was first released.The acting was superb!
He knew the old hangman had got him when the copper turned round
Very , very interesting
Check out 10 Rillington Place by Old men on the Drink.I wrote that song after visiting the area, 18 years ago,..check out bumberchuff channel for other good stuff.
The book 10 Rillington Place by sir Ludavic Kennedy a must read details discrepancies by the police and evidence not submitted in court which lead to the death of an inocent man Evans. The day evans was due to be hung my mum joined other women at Pentonville and protested against the execution of evans as they belived him to be inocent little good it did, also when they demolished no 10 the took the orignal kitchin and housed it in Maddam Tussauds chamber of horrors.
Nottinghill from slum to celebraties paying a million pound to now live there and portabella road used to sell rags and brick a brack now all antiques, how times change.
i think ol albert peirpoint was some kind of doctor cos when he streched christies neck it cured his bad back......!
salstream Well, I can actually tell you that it did not cure my fibrocitis.. I'm just about to brew up if you'd like a nice cup of tea.😃😃🍵🍵☕☕
Mother and me came to London in 1971 we visited the house and we put a banana skin through the letter box.😃😃😃🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌
The site of the house WAS built on.
when pierrepoint hanged christie, his bottle went and pierrepoint had to wave harry smith his assitant away and drop him without strapping his feet together, if he had not done this christie would have fainted before he reached the drop.when the executioners entered the condemned cell, christie sneered at them thinking they were well bellow his status, but soon changed his mind on the way to the drop, he was down and dead in 13 seconds minus the leg straps.
brian lee @ minğ
Pierrepoint was very well known for getting the job done quickly without any arsing about. I think he even managed an execution in under 10 seconds once.
Look at 2:40
Still 2 bottles of milk, LOL
You're right!
@SadisticFella thanks, sadistic, your name suits this subject I see, lol - thx again mate 1
Pity about the music can't hear what there saying
Christie murdered 7 woman and a baby, Geraldine Evans.
It looked better before just needed a bit TLC
@SadisticFella I AGREE DUDE BUT THEY LOOK SO DEPRESSING.....
Films about real killers/sociopaths are the worst (creepiest!)
you still get these houses i England ,..so depressing...Im American and I hate looking at those row houses.....last time I was on business in London..you still see them a lot..why dont they pull those hovels down?
@pentogram23
Most likely because we live on an island and with the ever more population problem of our government letting in all kinds of foreigners claiming asylum (more so than any other European country) then houses will continue to be built on council estates as you see in the above clip, plus there's alot of buildings as such as these that are deemed 'listed' and cannot be pulled down due to an historical factor.
wait let me put the Record on again....I like old technology.....Now listen....It's an LP record....here goes...." UGLY HOUSES ,,,Of all ther VISITS to the UK..still they are there.in their UGLY FORMS ".....
It looks uglier now horrible characterless buildings