Detroit Diesels & GMC SEMI Trucks
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- Опубліковано 5 гру 2022
- Detroit Diesels & GMC SEMI Trucks; Billy Parker returns to the TRUCKERS LOUNGE to answer your questions and show us a "Dry Block" 8V-71 Engine.
2:38 Memorial to Truckers Lounge's friend, Ron Greer.
Questions start:
13:25 Max torque for Detroit Engines
17:20 Detroit durability
20:44 Is the blower for boost?
22:66 Difference between 6-71 and 6V-71
27:57 Motor or engine?
Theme song, "Drivin my GMC" words and music by Dane Scott Music
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Sorry for your loss Dane, Enjoyed the video and input from Billy Parker.
Thank you sir
Another benefit of the V configuration was that it made re powering gas powered trucks a viable option. Harper Detroit Diesel in Toronto did scads of 6V71 retrofits in the 60s, mostly on F series fords. You could even shoehorn an 8V71 into an F series. I drove a 67 F850 with an 8V71 in it for a while in the early 70s. I blame most of my hearing loss on that truck.
Good to see Billy in the house. Nice conversation you guys had sorry about the loss of your friend.
Thank you David
Final last words and the best, "I decided to keep that one"!😉 1.2 million on a 8V71 and that is why he got it there. Maintenance is king and the and he is absolutely correct, 9/10 won't do what they need to do until it breaks.
Sorry for your loss Dane. It was so cool to hear Billy talk technical Detroit, that I thought I would like to ask him a question ? i'll trying to make it short ! I had a 1973 GMC Astro that I bought in about 1977/78 with the 8V71T, the GMC dealer told me that it was an experimental truck that they were were leasing, it was really decked out even had a side cluster of gauges for the pryometer and rear and transmission gauges ! Anyway, it was hard starting cold 50 degrees u needed an either pill, once started it smoked like hell even after it warmed up ! I had her for several years different Detroit Diesel mechanics, check valve lash, injector timing, and so forth, they couldn't figure it out ! One morning on the way up to Detroit, snowy rainy morning around Battle Creak I started loosing power, glance in my right mirror and there was this cloud of black smoke behind me ! Pulled off in the shoulder loosened up one of the intake clamps and stuck my screw driver in between the rubber and intake pipe and heard this huge intake noise , ok, so my filters plugged ! It was a Donaldson side draft air filter (driver side with intake louvers) ! No one in Battle Creek had one so I took out the top filter and proceeded up to Detroit ! Many years later still wondering why she was so hard to start, when I realized that maybe the blower was worn because the previous drivers did the same as I did maybe more than once !! We never check blower pressure?? What do you think Billy ? Thanks Dane
Very interesting Bernard! I will forward this to Billy. Thanks for watching.
This guy is so right about the way the extra fuel pressure on certain Diesels will ruin certain the injectors. Not everyone will like to hear this but he is 100% correct
I have a friend of mine who is a diesel mechanic right out of high school in 1976, his dad was a trucker, he told me if you take the injectors out of a 8V 71 put them in an 8V 92 and change the governor linkage around it will break the wheels loose of you stomp on the throttle. 855 Cummins and 318 (8V 71) will just run shy of a million. He is exactly right about running conditioner and adjusting the valves and taking care of them, but I know some guys were doing inframes at 500,000 on Cummins and Detroit. This gentleman is very knowledgeable he was dead right on everything.
Hoping to have him back soon. I know he’s coming to the GMC Jamboree June 3rd here.
This guy is a treasure! And the best part is by watching you talk to this man you can just tell by the look on your face that he is a trove of historical facts and information. Just like a real encyclopedia and no index just ask awesome stuff! 🧐
Yepp, such a pleasure to listen to 😬👍
O-H-I-O Porters here.🇺🇸 Blessings & prayers to Ron’s family. Billy seems to be a character! I agree that you should keep your engines tuned up, especially if you run them hard. Nothing like a tuned up Detroit or Cat engine. I might have to see him about my Silver 92 engine when I get that truck. It was so good to listen to you guys. Thanks. Good stuff, as always.🥰😎✌️
Thanks for watching as always. Billy is a lotta fun and wealth of knowledge. I’m sure he’d be glad to talk to you.
@@DaneScottsTRUCKERSLOUNGE 🇺🇸 This video opened my eyes a bit & encouraged me even more to pursue completing the repairs on the CL9000. I shall learn a great deal from it & him. Blessings.🥰🤩✌️
These Trucker Lounge interviews are a great source of information.
Awesome to see a Southern Detroit man thx Billie
I’m sorry for your loss Dane, sad that we’re losing friends that were a wealth of old school knowledge. I wish you could’ve known another old school guy, Jim Bowser who was a very good wealth of Detroit knowledge. He was friends with Larry and Jeff.
Thanks Jim, I know he owned Larry’s truck before me and really took care of it. Miss it but it was time to let it go to be appreciated by others. I’m sure you’ve seen that I DID end up with another Peterbilt…. albeit with nose lol. 😬
Very cool and informative video! Sorry for the loss of your friend. I'd love to sit down with Mr. Parker and talk old trucks! I've heard his name cause we don't live far apart but never met him. He seems like a great guy with lots of cool stories! Looking forward to the next video!
Sorry to hear the loss of your friend Dane , R I.P. to him and condolences to his family , SAFE TRAVELS 👍👍👍👍🙏🏼🙏🏼
Thank you Dave.
Love your channel my grandfather had 3 rigs my favorite being a KW cabover ,did I mention he loved Detroits, and I do heavy haul now, keep up the good work and I love the GMC song
Wow! Great family trucking heritage Driver. And thank you 😬👍
I’m really sorry to hear about Ron ‘s passing, & my heart felt condolences &Prayers are with you all!
Thank you Ken
First time viewer to your channel and owner of a '93 Newell coach with a 8v92. First and foremost, my condolences for the loss of your friend. Sounds like he was an amazing guy. Hang in there.
Thank you sir, AND thank you for watching! I gotta look that coach up, great engine too lol.
When I was growing up I was in love with semi's. One that I came attached to was a a late 60's F-900. It was built as an auto carrier. My friend as of today still, removed the carrier equipment, it's original engine, replaced it with a Detroit 6v71 and added a dump box to the bed. I put many many miles in the cab of that truck.
My other favorite truck that had a Detroit was another one built by IH also was a former state owned dump truck.,
Man you got to experience the good stuff! Hat tipped :)
I have appreciated this whole interview of this man!
He’s been there and done that. 👍
@@DaneScottsTRUCKERSLOUNGE I will say that I agree with you 100% on that! Mr. Parker was a great treasure and I am so sorry forgot your loss. He was a great loss to the trucking community. His knowledge alone on the Detroit Diesel engines and types! God bless you all and I am looking forward to seeing you all in, Conneaut Lake Park , Ohio. It has been decades since I was there, matter of fact I am going to put it in my calendar so I don't forget it. Thanks again for sharing this man with us the short time was a great treat. I will pray for the rest of the family and friends, Mr Pakker is going to be missed!
I know how you feel I lost two bubby's this. Year too hang in there friend they are trucking up there with the big guy be safe thanks again for the video
Thank you Jeff. Sorry too for your losses 😔
Sorry for your loss Mr. Scott..
Thank you Kent
Great interview Dane. Glad you had Billy back. You both are interesting characters..
Thanks JD, and for watching. 😬👍
Great interview, well done!
Thank you glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching
We fade away but never gone 👍🙏
The preempt is good stuff!
6V71s were promoted over the inline in the late '60s because of the weight advantage of 2-300 lbs. Then with more interstate running , the dry block 6V started having more failures with the max injectors [N-65]. Block would warp, requiring rebore and oversize sleeves. Same problem existed on 8V, but not as frequent, especially if freight companies settled for 260 HP N-55, or 290 HP N60s. I've parted out a Roadway 8V engine that had 7iN5 bus calibration that equaled N-50 , for 245 HP rating . Bigger engine weaned down gave longer life.
Makes sense. Thank you Dan.
Sorry for your loss. Great conversation with a very knowledgeable fellow.
Thanks John.
Sorry to hear this Dane, i know all too well what you're feeling. On a happier note I do love the sound of a 8v71. Road in a 66 needle nose w900 that had one and man did it scream. It's still around my area sitting in a shop. Would love to do something with it someday but thats up in the air right now.
Thank you. Hope it works out for you Bud!
Thank you for talking about RON,
my heart goes out for a guy that will get an older model Class-8 and drive it 14 days so far. May he rests in peace, so sorry for your loss of a great guy who knows an older truck. The stuff he knows in his brain is hard to replace for guys & gals who love older Semi's. I own a (353) in a piece of Heavy Equipment. I also own a (8-71) in a 1971 SeaGrave Fire Engine. I Love Detroit so much, bought my first GM (Chevy) Duramax Allison Diesel Pickup. Always been a FORD driver. My last two pickups (always 8' beds)
My first NEW pickup (1979 Ford) gas (351)
Second pickup a 2000 (V-10 Gas) looked at the Cummins hard, but the boy was stuck on the Duramax Engine with the 10 speed Allison.
Saw cut/down transmission blocks at the Allison booth at Con-Expo Con-Agg in Las Vegas. Loved it that Garbage haulers and FDs use that very heavy duty Transmission. This 2021 Chevy-Z-71-3500-4 door-8 foot bed,I love the pickup. The Diesel fuel mileage is out of this world. My wife BEAT the BEST mileage on the dash reading almost 32 M.P.G. coming down a mountain pass in my state. 31.7 M.P.G. for best mileage. It gets up to 22 M.P.G. on freeway driving. The heavy traffic, Stop and go Rush hour, it drops below 10 M.P.G. like my Ford Gas hogs got on all driving. My 1979 towing a 22 foot U-HAUL with washer and dryer, plus a piano for my parents move, it got 10 M.P.G. same fuel usage empty or full load.
You sure have some valuable knowledge/experience now lol. Thanks for your condolences and watching.
Like #37. That was a superb vid. You could have went an hour talking to Billy. "Wisdom" is always captivating.
Sorry for your loss Dane. Rest in Peace driver.....
Thank you, yes May he Rest In Peace.
So sorry for your lost . He gave you some good memories , he will live forever in you mind and memories.
Thanks
Prayers to the family sorry for your loss
So sorry for your loss buddy I loss my pops back in June of 2022
Sorry for your great loss. Losing a parent is very unsettling!
I'm so sorry for the loss of your friend. 😢
Thanks Michael.
That was a really good video very interesting it would be nice to sit down with Billy and talk old school trucking with him very informative man
Thanks for watching Louis.
Need more of these talks and have them last longer.
So sad about Ron we seen him in your videos Dane he was a awesome guy loved his ASTRO Aswell our thoughts and prayers go out to his family and are deepest sympathy go out to you Dane so sorry for your loss he was your good friend and he will be in heaven waiting for you when you're time comes God bless you in this difficult time
Thank you Shelly!
Hey buddy good to see you again buddy see you soon
Sorry Dane, I just remembered one more thing, I rebuilt that engine 3 years after I bought her, even rebuilt the turbocharger and she still smoked at idle, and was still hard starting cold !! Ran great otherwise, I still remember getting 3 miles per gallon, I was pulling three nines, steel hauler of course ! Detroit's were always easy starts but this one, I still think it was that air filter ! Thanks again !! Bernie ( the Tasmanian devil ).
Billy say:
“he is correct just a year or two before the introduction of the 92 GMC and Detroit did use some 8V-71T. My opinion one of several bad decisions GM made. But, they were in a hurry to at least hit 350 HP to compete with the 350 Cummins from their 335. With such low compression ratio 8V-71T all smoked like that when cranked cold. Even 60 degrees they would burn your eyes cranked in the shop NEW! Just to lower compression. That is one reason I don't like them. However I can build one from my engine rebuild spec notes that will do better. Actually to do an old school non EPA tune up will help some. Which those guys probably used EPA posted guide lines.
@@DaneScottsTRUCKERSLOUNGE Thanks Billy, to finally figure it out after all these years, really means a lot !!
Sorry for your loss buddy...
I loved the old Detroit diesel when I was a kid. When I was in college I worked for a gravel pit. I mainly ran a1953 Euclid belly dump."wheel wind" with a straight 6-92. It had no cab. But I had more horsepower than anyone out there. Keep up with your oil.
Sorry for your loss brother.
Thank you Eric.
Gotta Love those GMC 9500s
OKAY NOT COOL I NEVER WAS NOTIFIED ABOUT THIS BYE UA-cam I HAVE MY NOTIFICATIONS ON TO GET WITH IT UA-cam. HAPPY HOLIDAYS Dane and family 🎄🎁🎄🎁 ps sorry for your loss PRAYERS for the FAMILY and friends 🙏🏻
Thank you buddy, Merry Christmas to you too! 😬👍
Sounds like a engineering grad, good man!
Great to see Billy again he's seems to have a lot of nolage. Sorry for the loss of a friend,,,friends are hard to find RIP Mr.Greer
Thank you Tiny.
I'm sorry to hear about Ron, I'm sorry for your loss Dane.
Thanks Gene
Hello dane scotts trucker louge thanks having mr.billy parker diesel detriort come over. Trucker louge Well listing. And wacthing the intview With mr.patker i learn somethings about old v-671 v-8 671 you gentmen know detroit motors. Shall we. hammer down safe and sound.🚛👈
Thank you Don for watching. I’m a learner too. 😬👍
@@DaneScottsTRUCKERSLOUNGE 10-4 my friend👍👈
By Any chance do have any dane scotts trucker louge t-shirt or Sweat shirt for sale
Also passing of genitman that had blue and silver gmc astro Cabover in one of your vidiro i rembemer when pull in your driverway with astro🚛
I am so sorry for the loss of your friend Ron. My condolences Dane. 😞
Thank you Tony
Dane great video sorry to hear about your friend
Thank you Dom.
Sorry to hear about mr.greer.i know what it's like to lose a good friend. I did not know that Detroit diesel built a air cooled engine. The 60 series was good motor for the 90's.
Thank you John. I’m glad guys are picking up new things from the highlights too. 😬👍
Condolences on the loss of a friend. RIP Ron.
Thank you Chris.
If it's any help 8V92T produced 1,186 LBft of torque , stock output
His Brigadier is nice and 8V71 power , oh yeah
I always felt like the 2 cycle Detroit's fell on their face on a grade. Couldn't completely understand the cult following except for the unique nostalgic sound. Your guest, some bus UA-cam channels, and reading has given me a real education on their real value and GM's success. Great video. Sorry to hear about your friend.
Thank you Michael. I appreciate your watching and so glad to hear the work we're doing is having an effect in appreciating the old school days of trucking.
Travel North, South, East or West and view America’s infrastructure and Detroit Diesel 2-stroke power was primarily responsible for the diesel power that built it. It’s only been the last two decades that the infatuation with squeezing maximum horsepower out of diesel engines became wildly popular. As far as simplistic design, reliability, and ease of repair the old 2-strokes proved themselves in every kind of machinery imaginable. Just the miles put on them in charter, inner city, and line haul buses alone is staggering. Many passengers were put to sleep 😴by the music of a Detroit in the middle of the night.
They leaked, smoked, and weren’t torque monsters of today but I love them just the same.
People that never HAD to make a living operating one, those are most of the following. Neat engines, waterpump/gensets power plants, is where they need to be. I wouldn't sit in a truck with the Green Weinie, now.
My Condolences Dane
Thank you James
That gentleman looks familiar and I am saddened to hear this! Sorry to hear this I have my hat tipped this morning as I get ready to go over my pretrip of my service truck. 3 minutes he will get your friend he will starting at 4:27 am! Now. God bless you and his family! 🙁
Thank you. 😞
Rest in peace Ron, I'm sorry for his passing.
I just picked up a RT 915 15 speed transmission for my 1985 359 peterbilt big cam 3 Cummins
Awesome find! Congratulations. Hope Billy can find one too. You have a brother to my 85 359! :)
What power rating is on your big cam 3? A 900 series Road Ranger is a low power transmission, and wouldn’t have been spec’d behind a Cummins rated higher than 300-335 hp.
@@jameskratzer2014 it came out of a white 9000 log truck with a 260 Cummins I have a 400 big cam 3
@@johndeere1958ful if it’s going to be a hobby truck and not pulling any loads, you’ll be fine. But if you intend to haul with it, it’s more of a when it will fail, not if.
@@jameskratzer2014 I wanted a 13 speed transmission but this was a good price and I couldn't pass it up for 1500 it need to be gone through I would rather have a 13 I would like to work it one day but right now it has a rtf 1110 10 speed but it leaks from the back and can figure out were I was told it could be the seal is leaking and letting air in the case and pushing it out but I don't know enuff about transmissions it has a weird shift pattern that I'm not used to 10 gear is up to the dash
There is some small differences between the 6V71 and the inline 6-71, the no load RPM of the inline is factory set to 2100 RPM, the 6V 71 is 2300 RPM
Thanks,I appreciate the information,it was very interesting.I have to ask, what was the last year of the two cycle Detroits ?
Not sure….. they went on for many years then the series 60 4 cycle came out. Billy Parker would know the years.
Hi Dane. Sorry for your loss As a fellow enthusiast of old GMCs here’s a little story My dad use to drive for Cooper Jarrett (Being from Ohio you may be familiar ) I remember my dad laid a Astro over in Napoleon Ohio and the engine started running backwards. How’s that happen? Love your channel
Thanks Carl. Ive had that explained to me before but kinda forgot. I know you have to get it shut down fast though and it won’t cause harm.
I was hooking to a loaded trailer one time in R model Mack. The trailer spit me out and my foot slipped off the clutch with the truck in reverse. And that 300 fired up backwards. Exhaust started pouring at the air cleaner. Still have the shifter in the reverse position in the truck was going forward. Got to make sure you shut them down quick because with the engine running backwards you have no oil pressure...
Wow there Dane, did you bottle up all the great Detroit knowledge from Billy? I enjoy your chats with him. Sorry about your friend Ron, RIP good buddy!
Thank you Phil, yes We’re in school when Billy’s teaching lol. 😬👍
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Jeez that is rough
Nope not air cooled as a 2 stroke it like air induction. Like a weed trimmer chainsaw etc. Theirs ports in the lower liners that allow forced air into the cyl.
That takes care of the fresh air in the compression stroke and blows out the exhaust in the cycles. Soo yea
Talking about Detroit Diesel engines I wonder how confused you could make a person if you told them that you had a 736 under the bonnet or the cab of your truck
Have I stumped you?
I didn't know there was a air cooled version
Me neither …. Learning something new 😬👍
An engine is that uses heat to make work.
.DETROIT DIESEL NA VEIA!
Our Condolences an Sympathy an it's sad were losing a whole generation at a break neck pace. Stinks
Thank you Doug. You are so right. I'm trying to get as many stories from them as I can.
Tomato tamato same difference. Engine motor same difference.
Fla demais e num mostra conteudo
Detroit’s are the best!
Rip Ron