2006 Mercedes E320 CDI BLACK DEATH - Injector Removal

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  • @tomayrscotland6890
    @tomayrscotland6890 6 місяців тому +1

    Very cost effective Barry andrews..Well done.

  • @seebassark-illa4860
    @seebassark-illa4860 5 років тому +23

    That homemade tool 😍👌 amazing. Good job. Thanks for the vid.

  • @roundstar
    @roundstar Рік тому +1

    I appreciate the video! I had one injector stuck more than the one in your video, actually breaking a factory injector claw. I was ready to cut my injector or break my valve cover because I need to remove my head to replace it and saved my $1000’s by not having to destroy more than I needed.

  • @smiley19912
    @smiley19912 5 років тому +9

    Excellent outside the box thinking on your press, thank you for sharing that.

  • @farerse
    @farerse 3 роки тому +8

    Great idea, I've seen a few of these videos the middle ones seems to always be the worst leakers probably due to heat

  • @karmicmessenger
    @karmicmessenger Рік тому +1

    Great addition to my arsenal, thank you.

  • @robsonbrito3204
    @robsonbrito3204 5 років тому +12

    What a great idea! Thank you for posting this video.

  • @marginal5774
    @marginal5774 2 роки тому +1

    Admiring patience, innovation, perseverance.

  • @aheist
    @aheist 4 роки тому +2

    Fantastic DIY tool! I'm battling a VERY stuck #1 injector in a 2004 Mercedes Sprinter. I think it's funny that in this video you can see the injector coming up with the slide hammer, but you still opted for the giant press. What I would give to see my injector move AT ALL!! Thanks for sharing this.

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  4 роки тому +5

      Yes, the point of making this video was to show a method that works when you have really stuck injectors. Injectors can be stuck for a number of different reasons. For example, the engine may have been removed from the vehicle and not running, or the injector bodies may be warped or cracked, etc. For this particular Mercedes E320, ALL of the injectors could have been removed with just the slide hammer. But I have encountered other cars with stuck injectors where every method failed except for the press I showed in this video. I am not trying to say that this is the best method that should be used in all situations. But when you run into that VERY stuck #1 injector in a 2004 Mercedes Sprinter, give this method a try and let me know how it goes!

    • @dickdaley9059
      @dickdaley9059 Рік тому +1

      Please get the engine heat soaked as much as possible and work fast so it does not cool too much before attempting to lift the injector. Every bit of help with this project will be necessary. Good luck!

  • @fuffoon
    @fuffoon Рік тому +5

    If you are planning to keep you diesel Mercedes-Benz, then there is no need to wait until its leaking and stuck. Make injector re-seating a part of the routine schedule.

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  Рік тому +3

      Agreed. In this particular case, I obtained the Mercedes from an auto auction and it would seem routine maintenance was not something the previous owner was aware of.

    • @CamronLocke
      @CamronLocke 8 місяців тому

      @@barrydandrews It's a shame how these cars were treated by the previous owners. I obtained one that also was poorly maintained. It's amazing how these cars can still run and drive with so much wrong with them. I'm having to replace the timing chain in my om648 as it has stretched from dirty oil 8 degrees.

  • @williamnewsome5169
    @williamnewsome5169 2 роки тому

    Couldn't have made it more difficult if I had tried. Brother!

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/XwZOTf8vYhE/v-deo.html

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  2 роки тому

      You have never had a seized injector I guess. This particular vehicle was not that bad but on Mercedes CDI sometimes removing the injectors can be difficult. Other methods involve unscrewing the solenoid and threading in a rod but that usually requires an injector rebuild. eg. ua-cam.com/video/4gJjywZTTJc/v-deo.html

  • @eremiaclaudiuterbea4104
    @eremiaclaudiuterbea4104 4 роки тому +1

    Bravo Dottore complimenti

  • @jpmorgen5726
    @jpmorgen5726 3 роки тому +2

    I was trying to come up with the same sort of puller for a Sprinter van, 2005, but the valve cover is so weak I couldn't push down where I wanted, but your way gives me some more ideas!!

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  3 роки тому

      I'm guessing a similar approach for the 2005 Sprinter should be possible and work well.

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  3 роки тому +1

      You may need to get creative if the 5th injector is stuck as access may be difficult.

    • @berniemac8413
      @berniemac8413 Рік тому

      Did you find a way to remove them?

    • @jpmorgen5726
      @jpmorgen5726 Рік тому

      @@berniemac8413 Bit the bullet, ordered the Cheap puller where you have to unscrew the top off the injector, bought new injectors to replace them with, didn't want to mess with having them cleaned, tested....all good now.

    • @berniemac8413
      @berniemac8413 Рік тому

      @@jpmorgen5726 ahhh okay. Where’s a good place to purchase replacement injector’s?

  • @ajdahun
    @ajdahun Рік тому +1

    Brilliant.

  • @dinoamadsilvino1907
    @dinoamadsilvino1907 3 роки тому +1

    Great idea man,
    Weldone.

  • @turgaykotil1830
    @turgaykotil1830 5 років тому +1

    very successful dismantling. congratulations. to make special apparatus for dismantling is very successful

  • @kat0197
    @kat0197 Рік тому

    This method not working on BMW N47 engine. Waiting for hydraulic / pneumatic one. Maybe will help.

  • @MrKozak1991
    @MrKozak1991 3 роки тому +1

    I recommend brake fluid plus some time. How it is possible it is good to warm up the engine, it also helps. I worked the topic in om647m

  • @bladerunner350
    @bladerunner350 3 роки тому +4

    Hi Barry, great video. managed to get my injector out and was careful not to allow crud to go into the injector clamp stretch bolt hole. Got myself a 3/16" 12" drill bit to clear out the hole, but if seems impossible to rotate the drill bit by hand, and the hole feels kinda wierd as if there is a sheared off section of an old bolt in the hole. The bolt i took out is exactly the same size as the Febi replacement bolt kit i bought to re-fit, so this cant be true. have you come across this before?. Many thanks.

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  3 роки тому +1

      Try comparing to the other holes. Does that drill bit go in as far? If not, you probably have something in there.

    • @bladerunner350
      @bladerunner350 3 роки тому +2

      @@barrydandrews Ok Barry, thanks for the comeback. Comparing bolt/drill bit drop there certainly is something in there. So..decided to bite the bullet and drill it out. Started with a 200mm long 2mm tungsten tip bit and got (turning slowly on drill speed) to full depth. Drilled all the way up to 3/16....then the bit broke (not the 12"). So i now have just the tip of a drill bit stuck in there, AND the original problem. The only thing i can think of it was some kind of bodged heli coil done by the previous owner. The car was awash with "Bodge jobs", and its taken me 2 years to work my way through them. Am stuck now between a rock and a hard place with the car, and this could well be the end of its days. I guess its a warning to everyone. Thanks for your help anyway.

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  3 роки тому +1

      @@bladerunner350 Sorry to hear that. For stripped threads without broken drill bits etc. this is a good solution: www.timesert.com/html/1610E2-note.html

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  3 роки тому +1

      If the drill bit is broken inside aluminum you might be able to use the technique in my other video: ua-cam.com/video/NUPlGhuLHXo/v-deo.html

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  3 роки тому +1

      www.idparts.com/mercedes-injector-bolt-repair-kit-time-sert-om642-om648-om647-ts1610e2-1610e2-p-6653.html

  • @ogrethug2557
    @ogrethug2557 3 роки тому +2

    That is an awesome idea !!! Nice !

  • @rostombasil3575
    @rostombasil3575 4 роки тому +1

    This is very effective tools, most Time it is the last way for the bad injectors. I did Similar one last week

  • @heinz490
    @heinz490 2 роки тому +1

    that job on my hyundai terracan after 200.000 kmt was one hour there was no carbon but pressure lost on the commonrail hard cold start i have seen mb tech that runs away from injector jobs

  • @luiscoelho3523
    @luiscoelho3523 4 роки тому +1

    Great!! Thank you for sharing!

  • @jameslewis6215
    @jameslewis6215 2 роки тому

    Ingenious! Can you show 3/4 hole locations? Thanks

  • @cfrayre6572
    @cfrayre6572 5 років тому +1

    Very nice. Excellent trick.

  • @abdimokanovic3185
    @abdimokanovic3185 3 роки тому +1

    Good job and thank you for sharing. Is there a gasket under that oil fill component? I notice some oil (on my car’s engine) around that area.

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  3 роки тому +1

      There is an o-ring (approx. diameter 6cm) and a rubber grommet (approx. diameter 1cm). I hope this helps. Cheers.

    • @abdimokanovic3185
      @abdimokanovic3185 3 роки тому +1

      Yes, it does! Much appreciated. Cheers to you

  • @chuckbrown5035
    @chuckbrown5035 2 роки тому +1

    Genius.

  • @Peppermint1
    @Peppermint1 4 роки тому

    Can I share a section of the video on my channel ? I'd like to present your assembly for other applications, such as removing a stuck transmission axle or a wheel bearing

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  4 роки тому

      You can share a section of the video as long as you reference the original source (this channel). Thanks.

    • @Peppermint1
      @Peppermint1 4 роки тому

      @@barrydandrews Perfect

  • @SG901
    @SG901 2 роки тому

    Very good idea, maybe you can help me with an idea. I had a broken injector bold and after trying so many things i ended up dieper and dieper with drilling o the bold. And after so many times i measure , i drill to diep and come in the water channel under the blod. Is there a way to solve this hole? I went to an mecanic near by and he told me to tap new threads and put in a inbus screw with some pasta around to close the hole and then above make new threats for the 6 or 8 mm bold to hold down the injector. What all off you think of this solution? Or have you other ideas to repair this without taken the head off. I am open for eny sugestions. Kind regards geert.

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  2 роки тому

      Have you drilled all the way into the block? Removing the head is not too difficult and so you might consider doing that. At least you will be able to assess the problem better and hopefully achieve a better solution. To remove the remnant of a steel bolt that is surrounded by aluminum please look at my other video for a novel approach.

  • @mimisides
    @mimisides 3 роки тому +1

    What motor is this? The om648? Does it also effect the om613

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  3 роки тому

      Yes, this is the om648. We don't have the om613 in North America but I'm guessing the injectors would be similar with similar problems.

  • @jinishtolonov6061
    @jinishtolonov6061 5 років тому +1

    Thenk you. It's new for me.

  • @dannygio4858
    @dannygio4858 4 роки тому

    hi dear distance MM from every holes in the plate?

  • @chriswilliams2652
    @chriswilliams2652 4 роки тому +3

    Wow worst case I've seen. I had an 06 with 425k and no issues before it got totaled and now have an 05 with over 305k with no injector issue. Only body issues like trunk leaks really. I love this engine.

  • @richardkaz2336
    @richardkaz2336 5 років тому +13

    You should have soaked the crud around the injectors with a solvent de-greaser, washed and dried it. Then soaked it with a good wet dosage of WD40 and allow it to soak over night. Then undo the injector clamp bolts 2-3mm started the engine and run it for 5-10 minuets and then driven the car around the block. The heat would soften the tar crud and compression would have popped the injectors up enough to allow you to soak some more WD40 and pull the ejectors out.

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  5 років тому +8

      Yes that is a good approach too. I didn't show it but Injectors #2, #4, and #5 were removed by basically following this approach. On injector #1 in this video you can see that the injector was just starting to move with the slide hammer. But sometimes the injectors are so stuck that even after running and cracking injector clamp bolts the injectors won't budge. This can happen when the injectors have actually failed and are physically broken/cracked etc. There are also situations when an engine won't run or has been removed from a vehicle. Anyway, thank you for the feedback. It is good to have options.

    • @manqobawiseman8893
      @manqobawiseman8893 5 років тому +1

      Easy said, but I drove my cat for about 300km and still it won't come out I am going to try this way now

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  4 роки тому +3

      @@manqobawiseman8893 Good luck. I have used this hydraulic jack and plate approach with three CDIs all with success.

    • @Dave5843-d9m
      @Dave5843-d9m 2 роки тому

      I had the sand problem on a Fiat diesel. Soaking with solvents had absolutely zero effect. The worst injector had to be jacked out. When I got the cylinder head off, the affected piston was full of hard carbon coke. That would have destroyed the turbo at the very least.

  • @aeroflopper
    @aeroflopper 3 роки тому

    the tops of them injectors unscrew so you can screw on your pulling tool, and who left it so long. that takes a long time leaking to coat everything like that.

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  3 роки тому

      I find keeping the injectors intact and not unscrewing the tops is an overall better approach. You might need to test/recalibrate the injectors if you start pulling the tops off. The car had the "black death" when I acquired it so I don't know how long it was running like that.

  • @andrewgsxr1127
    @andrewgsxr1127 4 роки тому

    Awesome idea!

  • @mike82y
    @mike82y Рік тому +1

    you can just losen the bolts 3 turns and let the engine run hot
    the injectors will pop

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  Рік тому

      Yes, that will probably work too. I may make another video that shows this same engine pulled from a wrecking yard where someone has attempted to pull the injectors and has cracked the cover. In this case the engine is not in a car, not running and the injectors are stuck. So it is good to have different options to pull these injectors.

    • @cali_cal
      @cali_cal Рік тому

      if i turn , the top part only loosens not the hole injector...

  • @angelitoc3branch
    @angelitoc3branch 3 роки тому +2

    Great video. Thank you
    Did you re use the same injectors or you replaced all of them?

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  3 роки тому +2

      I bench tested all six injectors - they were fine and so I reinstalled them.

    • @erikgreen9716
      @erikgreen9716 3 роки тому +1

      @@barrydandrews how did you bench test them?

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  3 роки тому +3

      @@erikgreen9716 Search on eBay for "CR-C multifunction diesel common rail injector tester S60H Nozzle Validator". I used something like that.

  • @philzambo
    @philzambo 5 років тому +2

    Brilliant idea, well done...

  • @АркадийВладимирович-ф7и

    2т домкраты потянут?

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  3 роки тому

      Each bottle jack was labelled as 8 ton. Smaller jacks might works as well.

  • @PARDS2
    @PARDS2 5 років тому +1

    YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!! SUPERB JOB!!!!!! DID YOU MAKE THIS METHOD UP OR DID YOU SEE IT SOMEWHERE? MUCH BETTER THAN PULLING THE HEAD!!!

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  5 років тому +2

      Thanks for feedback. I came up with this method when trying to remove injectors from a Mercedes engine that was removed from the vehicle. All other approaches had failed.

    • @jordanfinlay1410
      @jordanfinlay1410 4 роки тому

      @@barrydandrews your ideas been stolen lol im making one of them

  • @fritzz2
    @fritzz2 2 роки тому +1

    why jacks a simple bolt and big nut shoud have been a good puller

  • @LSXREVIVAL
    @LSXREVIVAL 5 років тому +1

    How much would you charge for that plate ?

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  5 років тому +2

      There is nothing really special about the steel plate. It is 10" x 16" x 3/4" with three 3/4" holes drilled in it. It's heavy so it would probably be best to find a local steel supplier.

    • @LSXREVIVAL
      @LSXREVIVAL 5 років тому

      @@barrydandrews thanks for the info Barry. Any recommendations on how to get a stuck injector copper washer out on this motor ? tried using a pick no luck.

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  5 років тому

      @@LSXREVIVAL Try a long slotted screwdriver and gently poke at and pry the copper washer. You could also try using some penetrating fluid to soften up any deposits.

  • @jasonmoss6891
    @jasonmoss6891 2 роки тому

    Engine hoist?

    • @karmicmessenger
      @karmicmessenger Рік тому +1

      Tried that, a couple of times I actually lifted the entire front of the car by pulling on the injector. This way is better. The problem with a lot of pullers is that they have no solid surfaces to push against and this gentleman has come up with a brilliant option with those sockets and extensions.

  • @SG901
    @SG901 2 роки тому

    yes i forgot to say its a om646 EVO engine from 2006 to 2009. 4 cilinder e220 CDI 170PS so a 2148cc or something. Engine is 646 821 , Few days ago i went to get the head off an mercedes c203 model and engine is om 646.962 iits an c200cdi 2.2 but iits an different valve cover. mine is a black platic cover and the other one is the same like your car from alu but also 4 cylinder. I donnt know they are interchanseble? And the injectors of the EVO engine are not from bosch and the 14mm screw from the high pressure are on the top of the injector. DELPHY injector are on mine engine. Hope sombody have some idias. regards geert

  • @danielkhumalo4602
    @danielkhumalo4602 4 роки тому +2

    Man that's great and clever way of doing it! Where are you based mate?

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  4 роки тому +2

      Thank you for the compliment. I live in Northern California. Cheers.

  • @davidnjoroge8495
    @davidnjoroge8495 5 років тому +1

    best way i ti make sure you attain operating temperature then spray paint remover they will slide easily out

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  5 років тому

      Yes, what you describe is the best way most of the time. But when that fails (eg. engine not running or removed from vehicle) then it is good to have other options.

    • @cali_cal
      @cali_cal Рік тому

      spray paint remover is that strong?

  • @66Pipes66
    @66Pipes66 2 роки тому +1

    Oven cleaner is better. Love the press though, much less chance of breaking an injector with a firm steady pull. ❤

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  Рік тому

      Over cleaner works but don't leave it in contact with aluminum for too long ...

  • @kerrynball2734
    @kerrynball2734 4 роки тому +1

    Impressive

  • @neilhoganwa
    @neilhoganwa 2 роки тому

    I thought Mine were hard to get out after 307.000 ks. I just used a Leaver and screw driver.

  • @Algerian_bota9ba
    @Algerian_bota9ba Рік тому +1

    Buy a hollow bottle jack and use it instead of the two jacks would be better

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  Рік тому +1

      That's a good idea. Two regular bottle jacks are cheap. If you can find an inexpensive hollow bottle jack I would use that.

    • @Algerian_bota9ba
      @Algerian_bota9ba Рік тому +1

      @barrydandrews I bought one for 150$ 20t. I use it for injectors, wheel bearings and bushing

  • @abelsolimann401
    @abelsolimann401 4 роки тому +1

    Pourquoi tout ce montage?il suffit de relever la plaque au centre d'un coup sec et avec le choc cela décolle le porte injecteur.

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  4 роки тому +1

      Mon français n'est pas bon et je ne suis donc pas sûr de comprendre votre commentaire. Plusieurs fois, une approche à marteau coulissant fonctionnera surtout si le moteur est à la température de fonctionnement. Mais parfois, les injecteurs sont tellement bloqués qu'il est plus facile et plus rapide d'utiliser l'approche que j'ai montrée dans la vidéo. (Traduction gracieuseté de Google Translate).
      My French is not good and so I'm not sure I understand your comment. Many times a slide hammer approach will work especially if the engine is at operating temperature. But sometimes the injectors are so stuck that it is easier and faster to use the approach I showed in the video.

    • @abelsolimann401
      @abelsolimann401 4 роки тому

      @@barrydandrews OK! I undestand the problem.

  • @heinz490
    @heinz490 7 місяців тому

    vw audi kia hyundai renault and many more dont have the black death

  • @brianhoffding1
    @brianhoffding1 4 роки тому +1

    just turn it on, let it idle till it is hot(2-3 houres), then the the black stuff is like bubble gum, and you can just pull them out

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  4 роки тому +1

      Yes, that approach often works. But sometimes the injectors are so stuck either due to injector damage or the engine is not running (maybe it was removed from the vehicle). In these cases it is much easier (and faster) to use the approach I showed in the video. In much less than the 2-3 hours you take to get the engine hot, the job is done!

  • @keesstaps4606
    @keesstaps4606 4 роки тому

    bloody beaty idea

  • @frajtak5
    @frajtak5 10 місяців тому +1

    ok polska

  • @ronaldbrosius7488
    @ronaldbrosius7488 Рік тому +1

    You need to change your oil

  • @jadesluv
    @jadesluv 3 роки тому

    Did you realize the long rod that screws into the forked injector puller is part of a slide hammer set? You are just missing the slide weight. So no monkey business with the extensions and the board and the bottle jacks and the steel channel and the set up!

    • @barrydandrews
      @barrydandrews  3 роки тому

      Perhaps you did not watch the entire video where I show and use the slide hammer set. The whole point of this setup is to give an option for situations when injectors are VERY stuck. This can happen when the injectors are physically deformed from heat or in situations where the engine is not running and you do not have the benefit of engine heat to help loosen the injectors.

  • @ricardopereira771
    @ricardopereira771 3 роки тому +1

    🤘👌✌️💪

  • @repairvehicle
    @repairvehicle 4 роки тому +1

    Soaking with carburetor cleaner, will help removing

  • @cali_cal
    @cali_cal Рік тому

    sell me this tool

  • @hot-shotlabel3212
    @hot-shotlabel3212 Рік тому

    Just like scooter way

  • @yousefbhoyroo6960
    @yousefbhoyroo6960 2 роки тому

    Cow boy