😂😂😂 Fair play Dave, that was a challenge. Apologies for not having time to see the video for a few days ☹️ This engine was outside in the rain for around 12 months Dave & we had 2 injectors that failed. We tried to remove them but we didn’t have the determination or skill that you showed here. Other than that the engine was good. All very good pointers & tips on how to get out extremely stuck injectors though. I was on the edge of my seat & jumped when the weld’s snapped 😬😬 Thanks for taking the time to record it 🙏🙏
This was educational for me, I have never personally seen anyone with the tools or ability and patience to achieve what you have done here. It's also a great example for anyone that needs to see just how hard they are to remove. Cheers mate
Excelente demostracion , me ocurrio con un injector de Mercedez Sprinter cdi, la gente no tiene idea lo problematico que es cuando un inyector se atasca de esta manera. Muy buena demostracion ! Felicitaciones por el video! Me encanto! Saludos desde argentina!
👍👍Excellent work and perseverance - they are a pain the extract in the vehicle - drilling them out takes an age - I bet all the clamp bolts were broken inside - The piezo one’s are not as bad as the solenoid ones - same beast different attitude - 🙏🙏🙏👍👌👌👌😅
When adding more mass to the pneumatic slide hammer, I think you'd need to add it to the moving portion to give it more impact on the travel stops. By adding it to the injector, I don't imagine it would help at all - if not, somewhat hinder it by trying move more mass with the same amount of kinetic energy from the hammer.
Very interesting. You’d have thought Renault would have perfected the window scuttle by now! That’s as bad as Nissan Leaf front strut mounts filling with water!
Great vid Dave - Thank you.. If you were replacing the injectors... Obviously, stopping the dripping water on to the head maybe enough so the new injectors dont seize in.. Would you add an anti-sieze type compound to the new injectors as a precaution?? Thanks in advance
hello dave great video could you give me the link to buy the hydraulic tool that took out half of your injectors and I would like to know if it fits on other model thank you
Holy hell apparently I've been dealing with easy injectors compared to this! I wasn't even aware there was a pnematic slide hammer and never considered using that hydraulic tool to pull an injector I've only ever used it for bushings and bearings. Bravo man, I couldn't stop watching. What pnematic slide hammer do you have?
Hi Dave thoroughly enjoyed your video, I wonder if you had heated the engine up by dropping the whole lump into a tank of boiling water , then using the freeze locally on the injectors would have helped with the coefficient of expansion being greater for aluminium or perhaps in an oven ? . as i watched i was thinking , ill bet he welds something to them , great job , I dont like to be beaten either
Hi Dave very interesting video! When I used to change injectors under warranty at Vauxhall a chap from vx technical in Newcastle told me his technique and it never failed on me. Number 4 was always a pig to remove like you’ve mentioned. I used the dealer tool, a tin of freeze and release spray and a air chisel…. Infact my first video on my channel is me removing one 😂 Keep up the good work!
Yrah Gruss these were well stuck and all broke. Yes, the freeze spray seemed to help. Heat or fluids had no effect. Do you think a running van would be easier as I'm thinkong this one being outside didn't help. Also were you just attached to the fuel pipe connection? Cheers
@@davesterl I was working on no more than 3 year old vans so was very lucky. Yeah the factory tool just screwed onto the fuel pipe connection. Like you said.. more for you really 👍
at 9:49, the right idea, as it is in a sleeve, but use a butane or oxy torch, on the HOUSING, and then some "freeze and release" on the injector, this will cause shrinkage, hence break the hold the rust has on it.
@@davesterl No I didn't, as for diesels, thought most of them where steel, or cast iron, esp. the block parts (pressure in the combustion chamber is higher, so was a logical assumption), but Dugh!-thanks for reminding me, of course that's why the tools are a set of guided drills and reamers, to tap and pull, or to mill out the offending parts!
This video is absolutely therapeutic, I highly recommend for all those with OCD 🤣❤️🙏😇 By the way, the wife wants to know can she have your pneumatic slide hammer...she said she likes the vibrations mate 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hi Dave. Next time use old brake fluid as your lube. It creeps down into the injectors and the heat will wake it up. Glad i didn't buy that pneumatic tools, it probably works well but i saw many stuck injectors before. Old brake fluid works
@@davesterl the hammer is a solid tool. Was going after it but wasn't able to get it from the supplier prior to guys using it now. But i learned that trick a while back with brake fluid and how it works to get corroded things apart. Try it and let me know how it goes.
@@DJ-tn7vj No fluid would help getting these injectors out as the sleeve is sealed to the head with corrosion. No fluid can get in. Your method may assist in moderate cases but this is a deliberately selected extreme case.
Well, if Dave can't, no one can! I'm amazed Renault have got such a bad rep with this engine. Is that acetone and atf? That freeze it stuff works well with heat cycling. Heat everything up red hot and freeze it. Works great on heater plugs.
Hi Dave, great video thanks for show us how difficult it is. I’m thinking of purchasing from eBay the hydraulic puller, but also like the idea of pneumatic slide hammer not just for the M9R injectors. What is your input?
you still have to learn something very simple....instead of welding nut on head of the injector, just simply unscrew the head of injector and you will discover a bigger and STRONGER threaded hole.......😀
Certo che se smontavi la testata avevi risolto non uno ma tutti e quattro gli iniettori visto che sono messi anche peggio di quello , e non sfasciavi l'attrezzatura che ai massacrato . Cambia mestiere perchè nemmeno la bicicletta ti farei riparare .
Shows what you know. Very little it seems. The head does not come off without removing the injectors first. You do not seem to understand this is an experiment as stated in the title and many times in the video
hello dave great video could you give me the link to buy the hydraulic tool that took out half of your injectors and I would like to know if it fits on other model thank you
All proceeds from the shop goes to Poppy.
Find the items that are used on the Dave Sterl channel in the Amazon shop.
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😂😂😂 Fair play Dave, that was a challenge.
Apologies for not having time to see the video for a few days ☹️
This engine was outside in the rain for around 12 months Dave & we had 2 injectors that failed. We tried to remove them but we didn’t have the determination or skill that you showed here. Other than that the engine was good.
All very good pointers & tips on how to get out extremely stuck injectors though.
I was on the edge of my seat & jumped when the weld’s snapped 😬😬
Thanks for taking the time to record it 🙏🙏
This was educational for me, I have never personally seen anyone with the tools or ability and patience to achieve what you have done here. It's also a great example for anyone that needs to see just how hard they are to remove. Cheers mate
Thanks Matt for your kind words
Excellent & very informative video, i’m just glad that I didn’t have the same battle in getting my volvo d5 injectors out. Keep up the good work 👍
Great bit of experimenting Dave, helps us all out. Thanks!
No bother Simon
great job dave that was a good watch you want patience of a saint on that one
The most annoying thing is that if you really wanted that injector to stay put it would fall out
Excelente demostracion , me ocurrio con un injector de Mercedez Sprinter cdi, la gente no tiene idea lo problematico que es cuando un inyector se atasca de esta manera. Muy buena demostracion ! Felicitaciones por el video! Me encanto! Saludos desde argentina!
Strange how much I enjoyed that 👍
This video had me totally riveted ! Just as good as a thriller movie 😄 !
What a fantastic experiment.
👍👍Excellent work and perseverance - they are a pain the extract in the vehicle - drilling them out takes an age - I bet all the clamp bolts were broken inside - The piezo one’s are not as bad as the solenoid ones - same beast different attitude - 🙏🙏🙏👍👌👌👌😅
Great video Dave I’m glad it’s not my car that needs injectors 😂😮👏
Good watch dave. Good to see realistic videos like this. Shoes that things just don't go to plan sometimes.
Shoes?
@@davesterl sorry shows. Grammar police 🚔
Impressive determination and patience Dave. Wee bit scary with those kinda forces at play. All good experience for the brain bank 👍
Dunno about the patience but certainly determined. I wanted to find what would work and where the failure points are. Time well wasted
@@davesterl Well wasted 😃
When adding more mass to the pneumatic slide hammer, I think you'd need to add it to the moving portion to give it more impact on the travel stops. By adding it to the injector, I don't imagine it would help at all - if not, somewhat hinder it by trying move more mass with the same amount of kinetic energy from the hammer.
Ok maybe i should have explained 'adding mass where i can add mass'
Very interesting. You’d have thought Renault would have perfected the window scuttle by now! That’s as bad as Nissan Leaf front strut mounts filling with water!
Bravo! She gave a good fight.
Izuzetan promasaj u kostrukciji motora, totalni fijsko za proizvodjaca
Mighty effort Dave them injectors have no manners
Yeah Alan, they are nasty
Great vid Dave - Thank you.. If you were replacing the injectors... Obviously, stopping the dripping water on to the head maybe enough so the new injectors dont seize in.. Would you add an anti-sieze type compound to the new injectors as a precaution?? Thanks in advance
hello dave great video could you give me the link to buy the hydraulic tool that took out half of your injectors and I would like to know if it fits on other model thank you
Holy hell apparently I've been dealing with easy injectors compared to this! I wasn't even aware there was a pnematic slide hammer and never considered using that hydraulic tool to pull an injector I've only ever used it for bushings and bearings. Bravo man, I couldn't stop watching. What pnematic slide hammer do you have?
Is there any upward pulling force on the nematic hammer? Maybe if the engine was upside down
Hi Dave thoroughly enjoyed your video, I wonder if you had heated the engine up by dropping the whole lump into a tank of boiling water , then using the freeze locally on the injectors would have helped with the coefficient of expansion being greater for aluminium or perhaps in an oven ? . as i watched i was thinking , ill bet he welds something to them , great job , I dont like to be beaten either
Hi Dave very interesting video!
When I used to change injectors under warranty at Vauxhall a chap from vx technical in Newcastle told me his technique and it never failed on me.
Number 4 was always a pig to remove like you’ve mentioned.
I used the dealer tool, a tin of freeze and release spray and a air chisel….
Infact my first video on my channel is me removing one 😂
Keep up the good work!
Yrah Gruss these were well stuck and all broke. Yes, the freeze spray seemed to help. Heat or fluids had no effect. Do you think a running van would be easier as I'm thinkong this one being outside didn't help. Also were you just attached to the fuel pipe connection? Cheers
@@davesterl I was working on no more than 3 year old vans so was very lucky.
Yeah the factory tool just screwed onto the fuel pipe connection.
Like you said.. more for you really 👍
@@GRUSSNewton cheers Gruss
Did the injector tips come out easily with the head off?
at 9:49, the right idea, as it is in a sleeve, but use a butane or oxy torch, on the HOUSING, and then some "freeze and release" on the injector, this will cause shrinkage, hence break the hold the rust has on it.
On the HOUSING
@@davesterl YES, right by the sleeve, as if you heat the injector, it will expand, and get more stuck in there!!
@@andyvan5692 you do know it's aluminum
@@davesterl No I didn't, as for diesels, thought most of them where steel, or cast iron, esp. the block parts (pressure in the combustion chamber is higher, so was a logical assumption), but Dugh!-thanks for reminding me, of course that's why the tools are a set of guided drills and reamers, to tap and pull, or to mill out the offending parts!
Super!!!👍👍👍
This video is absolutely therapeutic, I highly recommend for all those with OCD 🤣❤️🙏😇
By the way, the wife wants to know can she have your pneumatic slide hammer...she said she likes the vibrations mate 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Woah, steady on there Nathan. Lol
Too funny we were watching your videos today...🤣👍
My ocd really wanted to see those nozzles removed after the head was lifted. Now I won't be able to sleep properly 😢
Great video can that puller be hired by any chance
I tought freezing might be better as causing that the metal are going smaller in size hesting expand the metal in size
Hi Dave. Next time use old brake fluid as your lube. It creeps down into the injectors and the heat will wake it up. Glad i didn't buy that pneumatic tools, it probably works well but i saw many stuck injectors before. Old brake fluid works
Do you think the addition of brake fluid would have got these out? The pneumatic slide hammer is a great tool.
@@davesterl the hammer is a solid tool. Was going after it but wasn't able to get it from the supplier prior to guys using it now. But i learned that trick a while back with brake fluid and how it works to get corroded things apart. Try it and let me know how it goes.
@@DJ-tn7vj do you think the addition of brake fluid would have got these injectors out?
@@davesterl yeah. I stopped throwing away old brake fluid a while back. I use it to remove stuck axles, bolts and so on. Neat trick.
@@DJ-tn7vj No fluid would help getting these injectors out as the sleeve is sealed to the head with corrosion. No fluid can get in. Your method may assist in moderate cases but this is a deliberately selected extreme case.
Well, if Dave can't, no one can! I'm amazed Renault have got such a bad rep with this engine. Is that acetone and atf?
That freeze it stuff works well with heat cycling. Heat everything up red hot and freeze it. Works great on heater plugs.
Yes acetone and atf, i don't think it had much effect
The sleeve comes out with the injector and good luck you will need a 10 or 20 ton hydrologic puller BIN there and changed mine after hours of work
really? i thought i had a 20 ton hydraulic ram on these injectors in the video
Hi Dave, great video thanks for show us how difficult it is. I’m thinking of purchasing from eBay the hydraulic puller, but also like the idea of pneumatic slide hammer not just for the M9R injectors. What is your input?
Got the hot glue gun out OGM 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great horror video for Halloween.
I've unscrew mine but outer shell is still stuck in 🤦♂️🙄
I simply mill them out 80 quid an injector, why did they scrap it? Beyond me
a scrap engine over the injectors . that sound like some sort of challenge
The big plate one wasn't pulling square and that's why it snapped😢
might have appeared so on video
A job well done though😅
You've got more chance an elephant walking in and using it's trunk than that terrible thing gettimg anywhere
Pigeon droppings 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Time well wasted on both our accounts 👍👍
Very true Kevin
you still have to learn something very simple....instead of welding nut on head of the injector, just simply unscrew the head of injector and you will discover a bigger and STRONGER threaded hole.......😀
You need to learn this - you do not know what you are talking about
Did you try hitting it with your handbag 😂
what a stupid useless comment
Just another nonsense comment
@@davesterl man I'm from Ulster and I know you know what a joke is. Come on man!!
These get new cylinder heads and injectors every time at work, m9r scrap
New Toy 😀 I’m getting one😂
You want everything i have
Certo che se smontavi la testata avevi risolto non uno ma tutti e quattro gli iniettori visto che sono messi anche peggio di quello , e non sfasciavi l'attrezzatura che ai massacrato . Cambia mestiere perchè nemmeno la bicicletta ti farei riparare .
Shows what you know. Very little it seems. The head does not come off without removing the injectors first. You do not seem to understand this is an experiment as stated in the title and many times in the video
The problem is you dont know to weld
And you don't have a clue what you are talking about
hello dave great video could you give me the link to buy the hydraulic tool that took out half of your injectors and I would like to know if it fits on other model thank you