Chess Opening: Grob Attack
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- The Grob Attack has a reputation for not being the strongest opening. That's partly because it's not very good BUT that doesn't mean there aren't some fun variations and creative traps that many players will fall for. For more chess openings check out www.thechessweb...
Thanks Kevin. I've played this once. The expression on the guy's face was priceless. There's more to chess than just winning games.
Pierre Groussac oh so you won? Add me on chess.com and try g4 against me
That's really a good idea: playing a specified opening on line. I looked for Pemberton on chess.com, but there were several. Send me a friend request. I'm the only Groussac, and you'll recognize my dog avatar.
What if they just ignore g4 and play d5, c6
Well... who won?
but at the end of the day, you either win or lose. #KasparovMasterClass
It's fun to play really weird irregular openings. It has a psychological effect on human opponents and throws engines out of book. Like the Bongcloud, Paris (drunken knight), Durkin (sodium attack), Fried Fox, Hammerschlag, Transvestite attack (swap king and queen as soon as possible as white, then develop normally).
Lmao transvestite attack, I had never heard of this one
I agree - unsound vs a computer, but the psychological effect of irregularity against an unprepared human can sometimes go a long way!
You're wrong about engines tho. Engine perfectly knows the grob attack and even marks the g4 move as a theoretical move.
@@Amoeba_Podre transperson attack* uuh...transpiece
Lol these all sound fake. Or like ordering food at a diner. Give me 2 pigs in a blanket animal style murder it and add extra ketchup
I remember using this opening in a school tournament as a joke and ended up winning it lol
This comment is 2 yrs old but I'll reply, I am announcing that I'll also use this on our school tournament
@@4rk7heFool welp
I have been using this opening for more than a year since this video was uploaded, and I have had much success with it. Thanks!
I've been playing this opening for some time online and I'm surprised how many players fall for the traps, and even if they don't they use much more time in the begining than they would with other opening so when you play blitz 3' or 5' it's a great opening, also in online tournaments people seem to not know it and as you said Kevin it's fun to play.
I'm less than amateur at chess, I think this was a great video, you described everything thoroughly and I believe the tactics would work great against people of my level. thanks for the great demonstration.
I've heard for the first time this opening with blitzstream (kevin bordi). He played live chess and almost beat Carlsen (finally a draw) with the grob opening.
Yep me 2
if you don't like the grob attack at all, well first off you're probably sane, but it's pretty fun.
Also love Danish Gambit, i'ts for insane people too
Jerome
The Grob also has a touch-move-blunder variant: 1.g4 e5 and then White's face falls on seeing the f-Pawn in hand instead of the Bishop.
@@KororaPenguin problem is you always have to worry abouth ban rank chech and mate
Lmao
In minute 6.41 you explain to play knight to C3, I woud rather take the pawn with my bishop, wait what black does and then bishop to F7 check, opponent has to move the king and then depending on the opponents move queen to E3 or queen to D5. I could also retreat the bishop but at least the opponent isn't able to castle. The center of the opponent has no pawns left and without the abbility to castle the opponent is completly lost.
This Opening strategy is like a "double edge Sword", if you are lack of knowledge on how to use it, you will just end up losing the game. especially if your opponent also know this strategy. This is like a "counter attack" on both players.
This guy has the best voice of all chess content creators.
That means a lot. I appreciate that.
I discovered this opening over 20 years ago thanks to a book by Michael Basman (his commentary is hilarious), and I'm amazed at the success I continue to have with this opening. People lose their minds when playing black against it, in my experience, and a lively, topsy-turvy game with all kinds of creative chances usually ensues. It's not the most "sound" opening, but it's great for blitz chess and fun to play!
I want to play the Grob Attack just because it's called the Grob Attack.
Sounds like a good enough reason to me.
This is definitely a good opening to learn when you go to an amateur chess tournament.
19:22 is so fun to watch
The grob attack reveals quickly how good of a fundamental player your opponent is. If you're in for a three game round or more, this can really show you how studied-up your opponent is. Hell, you might even be able to steal a game. Also, if i remember correctly, there are few options to force a draw if it begins to go badly.
played this and lost every single game
The Grob attack is absolutely nuts and I love it!
just won a game with my first grob attack, it's quite fun!
Not so reliable though
thanks for this, im brushing up on my less common openings in case i get this played against me
Wow, super interesting! Thanks for the effort of explaining all of the variations, learned a lot!
My favorite opening.
Kevin, you are the best.
So, although this is very clearly not the strongest opening, and although I personally don't really like it, there are definitely ideas here that you can take and learn from. For one, this video shows you how not to fall for the Grob attack. It also teaches a unique queen trap idea and although it's unlikely that specific line is to occur in a real game, there are definitely ways to do something similar, such as, manipulating an aggressive queen to getting forked.
Well said
This opening seems like more trouble than it's worth.
My favorite opening. Thanks for uploading it!!!
Here is a video on refuting the Grob! ua-cam.com/video/Px6FeIILZkI/v-deo.html
Here's an idea: The Grob, Bird's variation
Hi Kevin, I’ve been watching your channel for years now! Your videos have taught me a lot and they never disappoint! You should totally do a series in which you analyze fan / community submitted games!!
Thanks Kevin! You're the man! Been studying your instructional videos for years, and they've really helped my chess game.
-Phil from Boston
I have played this opening so often that it is difficult for me to do anything else.
I know there's quite a number of traps in this line. Whenever I see an opponent playing this opening with a view to trap me, I say in my mind, " nah dude, sorry to disappoint you, but ain't falling into your pesky little traps😂"
I searched up this opening because my opponent used this on me and I was so confused what kind of opening it was, eventually I ended up checkmating him lol, I just went with my usual opening as black, d6 then Knight f6, I seem to win more with that kind of opening. I'm only 900 rating xd
Edit: I'm a 1300 now lmao I still play the pirc
I actually played the Grob Opening/Attack because my hand slipped too much when trying to start with a King's Fianchetto Opening, and i won without knowing anything about it, lol. That's why I'm on this video tho
Ok my rating was 341-Elo but yknow, pretty fun
@@hopecalypse LOL hand slip led u to the grob opening, well at least you won, I'm 1600 now
This opening while probably not the soundest of openings does have a lot of traps for someone not accustomed to playing against it since there are so many ways one could go wrong when defending against it. However if your opponent has played against it or has even played it themselves then the person playing it as white is in trouble.
I've won my first three games with this opening and it always makes my opponent take a minute or two to open their account, whilst they try to figure out what the hell's going on.
THIS HELPS ME WIN EVERY GAME I PLAY AS WHITE THANK U SOOOO MUCH
Thank you sooo much for teaching how to bully players haha XD
One of my favorites. Too bad I usually lose haha!
Very useful, i prepare this oppening because i dont want play against the silician (played by my adversary).
Nice. Always good to have a counter for your adversary.
This was well-done. I wish the guys from the other chess channels had your style.
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Could you also make a video how to play against the Grob attack?
Don't panic
When white pond to g4 just simply attack with your knight instead of bishop.
Here is one :) ua-cam.com/video/Px6FeIILZkI/v-deo.html
nice and clear explanation
I play G4, followed by G5
Man you are such a good teacher :)
Thank you so much.
this opening looks stunning at 1st but if you watch the whole video its really not there's more to worry about than more to enjoy
I need to watch this 10 times and memorize this. My friend loves the gro. Opening.
haha if you do that, you may want to go 1.5x speed.
I defeated someone who played it online - perhaps he did not even realise what it was. As far as I was concerned all it did was give me the centre of the board.
Ive never seen any of this stuff played ive seen h5 or kf6 or d6 but then i play e3 protecting the pawn. So many weird games you get with the grob
1.g4 d5
2.bg2 bxg4
3.c4 c6
4.Qb3 Qd7
Kindly make analysis on this variation sir
I just opened with this accidentally and the person after I stole a few pieces resigned LOL
I'm going to start studying this and using because its not a common opening should score alot of easy wins
Changed the whole way I’ve looked at the Grob till now - the real essence of it contained in, “If at any point you find yourself playing PKR3 as White, you’re not playing the Grob properly”.
What do you mean with PKR3..?
@@nugrohosuhartanto4241 it's not standard algebraic notation, but it means pawn to Kings rook 3
@@nugrohosuhartanto4241 instead of h3
what the fuck is that notation
I just noticed, when you play this same pattern as black, it is reversed grob opening AKA Borg opening!
Chigorin is works in this position after Bg2 Nc6
So glad to see another vid from you
I love this because this video doesn’t have too many viewers so that I can easily cheat just by looking at your video. I really hope my enemy didn’t find this vid
Cheating WHILE playing KEKW
@@piggy8761 hush
Reallly helpful in blitz thank you kevin
The best move for white if black plays 1. ... e5 is obviously 2. f3 or f4
Hahaha
Why the heck? You have to be fucking bad at chess : black will play queen to H4, checkmate.
@@402SCH1992 😂cute
wtf is cute?
@@402SCH1992 because he was joking😂
Kevin
Can you do a video on the hedgehog defense
It's on my list of videos to make.
13:10 why does the king capture and not the bishop or the queen?
the bishop is on a good attacking position and the queen is threatening checkmate
@@danielkamenov132 thank you👍😀
Magnus played it live few days ago!
@chesswebsite can you make a video about the hippo defense opening
no man it's too heavy to upload
Sentinel Returns lol good one mate
I'm going to use it in my tournament tomorrow, wish me good luck
tell how the situation go
@@emrahcelenk It worked great man, he fell for it, it was the first round I was at table 52 overall there were 70 tables if I remember correctly, I dont know but yeah I did it once and it worked
0:51 what if the opponent plays e5?
resign
Play f4
e5 15:15
d5&e5 16:45
I was trying to learn this and g4, and my app played e6, i moved bg2, and ai went d5 and nothing in the video helped lmfao maybe theres something for it but im new
@chesswebsite whats your rating?
Great video thx! I like to play it all wrong. Take the knight out, don't fianchetto, sac three pawns. U get either a Mikhail Tal victory or a lost game, slowly but surely you do learn tactical aims worth going for. Remember "tactics flow from a superior position". So you end up with "luck". But it stems from a superior position. And you made your own luck by sacrificing material for (insane) development.
1.g4 is the worst move according to stockfish 🤭
but its viable to destroy beginners , but to destroy beginners you can use literally any opening you want
"Don't sleep on grob attack"
Now I see why
O wow I just realized I has been playing a gorb opening all this time, all this time I thought I came up with it :( well atleast it's a little different
Dont worry I thought I came up with both the retina opening and queens pawn opening chigorion variation
in a game that is hundreds of years old and played and studied by millions, to think you're the first one to do anything is just stupid and arrogant.
@@benburch ```There are more possible iterations of chess games than there are atoms in the observable universe``` From realclear website
So yes, besides for potentionaly a computer itterating through countless of moves you will prob be the first one to play some board a specific way lol
@@__________________________4597 There are only 20 possible variations for the first move tho, pretty sure all of them have names
How to play this opening. How to play that opening. If white does this, black has to do that. On move 24 you have to do this, not that... I'm glad I stopped playing regular chess and switched to Fischer random 960.
Sam Bowie so the hell you doing here then? Go on 360 chess videos.
omg i did this little attack on kingside so i didnt even have to worry about no damn queen
dark square bishop
You should do a video about the old benoni defence, not only the trap
huh, bouta go try this out
On a ratings below 1200 this opening just crushes everyone.
This is the real Fishing Pole Trap
What if opponent uses e5 after I open the pawn to g4 then moved c6?
Thanks Kevin!
Hey, Kevin can you make a video on the Pirc Attack?
Kevin what a good website to play against others online
My favorite opening
It's pronounced Grōb like robe with a g ;) It's my last name.
Thank you so much. Really helpful.
Hey Kevin, what rating are you in 10min games? By the way, great explanation!
SOmetimes when I´m in a rut, I do something crazy like this. I find it gets my mind working better and I play much better.
I just played and won 3 games (twice on white, and once as black). Amazing opening. Thank you the great breakdown.
Awesome video thank you Kevin 😉😉😉
can we use this in benko? its a little bit similar but the pawn is in g4 instead of g3
My friend played this against me and it was so annoying. Thanks for the tips!
In the last trick, what if the king doesn't take on f7?
I'd assume you play Rg1 then retreat the bishop
I just played against this clown opening, so I had to look it up. Was pretty easy to beat, so luckily I didn't fall for any of these traps.
If you don't catch your opponent, you really have a weak structure.
Great video thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
Is this possible to play as black? Or what’s a super aggressive opening for black?
Amazing video!
Great helper
5:55 Nc3 is bad. Black plays d4 and whites position is ugly. Instead of Nc3 play c4xd5, and if black recaptures (which is a mistake, better is Nf6) take with bishop. Ive studied grob one day quite deeply to play it in bullet. And i never play it in blitz because i cant suffer from looking at my grob position more than a minute, extremely bad positions if black knows how to response. 70% win rate for black according to chess.com database
An interesting opening. It seems unpredictable for those who have not studied this opening. Thank you for uploading this video.
Video was quite helpful ,I will surely try this 😁,btw ACC to me this is best suitable in blitz coz u really don't have much time to think
Thanks for the video sir!!
I met a man who played H5, what should I do?
White Grob Attack vs Black Dutch Defense or King's Indian Defense?