Bad idea for 2 reasons. 1 weight distribution. Can't really split the board. 2 it's hard to put batteries like that in parallel. With designs like this you need the battery protection board really close to the cell. It's a bad idea to use 2 boards in parallel. So you would have to use one but that means if the cable going through the top band shorts out you have no protection so fire risk. Just not worth it. Also it's 1500mah. Is that not big enough?
Great example of a product being built to suit a target market and not adding functionality that isn’t needed. No ANC so gamers can hear their mums calling when their dinner is ready and a 2 weeks continuous use battery life so they can recharge whilst having a wash.
ANC doesnt really stop speak as far as i noticed, its only good for noise thats somewhat repeating, like water heater bubbling, washing machine and pc fans whirring. theyre great in a train but you will hear mom calling (tried: Cleer audio enduro ANC, Korg NC-Q1)
I have those and believe me, you won't hear your mom anyway because those ear pads isolate you pretty well. I can barely hear myself speaking when wearing them which can get a little exhausting over time but thankfully the software let's you feed your mic input into your headphones.
On the other hand, anything above 20 hours is overkill. Wireless headphones don't really need much more battery life while wireless earbuds desperately need more battery life since they often last only 6 hours.
I wouldn't cut any points for needing to solder. If you have to pull those wires through the housing (which I have had to do on headphones before) you will end up needing to remove the connectors and that is going to make repair WAY harder. Also, those wires look easy to solder. A beginner wouldn't have much trouble. Regarding needing to replace the battery. I'd expect the battery to out last the headphones. For context. 10 years ago when I was still kind of new to soldering. I replaced the battery in some 2008 era Sony headphones (forgot the model but they are around here somewhere). Not only did I replace it but I upgraded it from about 350mah to I think 500mah. Was no trouble at all cutting a bit of plastic out to make room and soldering on that board was easy. The headphones in this video look even easier to solder.
Would the battery even need to be replaced with wear and tear apart from manufacturing problems. One recharge can easily last a month or even more for normal usage. 60 recharges is like 5 years. That's same amount of recharges you'd be doing in 4-5 months of other wireless headphones. It's literally the best innovation
@@FirstnameLastName-mr8lk I guess but they don't allways seem to rate things like that. Like difficult repair vs not repairable. Also I'd still not call this difficult. It's repair. Are you really expecting to not need any tools? Is that the goal/benchmark?
@@rahulagrawal327 yeah. Much like an electric car. You are cycling much less and also wouldn't have any heat issues (unlike a phone in a hot pocket or hot charging Pad) I think the biggest issue is age/time. sometimes a battery can just become unstable. As crazy reliable as Tesla's batteries are, sometimes things just fail. Still. One cell. Very few people are likely to have an issue.
@@Sparky400 I mean that's probably what they'd consider a max score like no repairs or just 1 screw type and length and the only tool is one screwdriver, for a complete beginner soldering is kind of hard for them the score is designed around like how easy it'd be for a total beginner like they have never repaired anything in their life
Honestly I wouldn't say a replaceable battery matters in this case. Even if the battery degrades to only holding 10% charge it will still have a 30 hour battery life. To get down to an "unacceptable" battery life of just a few hours it would be at 1% to 2%. Even with careful handling and use I doubt the wear components of the headphones like the ear cups, hinges, and headband would still be in usable condition by that point.
Thing is lithium batteries from my experience usually go down to about 50% (+-20%) and then quickly die off. No doubt a bigger battery will last longer, but not by as much as you think.
@@swecreations It absolutely will. but there are some big factors that will change it such as how you charge, when, and for how long. Heat is the big killer and the issues with batteries seemingly dying super quick after a certain percent is more to do with the fuel gauge not having a proportional output. Trying to measure charge percent is super non-trivial.
I think this is the point where you can't really satisfy the customer tbh. If they would make the battery easily replaceble, the next thing someone would complain about is a changable mainboard, then drivers, then whole earcups and whatever... there is always something to complain about and also every connector adds up weight.
@@erjonameti It's not using Bluetooth. You can't pair it to your devices with Bluetooth. You need to plug in the included 2.4GHz dongle to connect it. This method of connection is known to have Lower latency and higher bandwidth while consuming more power compared to Bluetooth.
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2:19 It uses bluetooth (which also runs on 2.4 GHz with 1 MHz spectrum and FHSS). Most headphones have a PCB onboard antenna, but this has a IPEX antenna connector and that can make it more efficient too (if it‘s a 3dBi antenna instead of a -0.5dBi antenna, it already needs half power for transmitting).
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2:16 Another unusual thing is that it has a IPEX antenna connector. This means that this thing doesn‘t need as much transmitting power (Bluetooth is TDD and sends data in both directions), at least with a high EIRP.
4:55 I don't think it really matters if it has repleacable battery. With that battery life i would expect this to last over 200k hours without any noticeable difference in battery life. I think it will easily last like 50 years in normal use.
That's assuming the battery is perfect out of the box and not defective. Or that it doesn't become damaged by any number of factors. A replaceable battery would still prevent some headphones from going to the landfill in the long run, and that's a good thing. "Worst case scenario" is you get a set of headphones that last another 50 years. Give 'em to your grandkids and let them marvel at the retro headphones.
Li-Ion batteries will eventually degrade over time, but it's (a) the amount of current drawn, and (b) the number of charge/discharge cycles, that determines how long your battery will last before it needs replacing. With a super low current draw, the number of charge cycles will be minimized (300 hour battery life is so cool!) and therefore the battery won't need replacing as quickly. In contract, my Corsair Void RGB headphones are (or were) a different story - rated up to 16 hours, but no way of turning off the LEDs without proprietory software meant 5-6 hours runtime at most. That resulted in a large amount of charge cycles, and as such the battery life deteriorated quickly (I have had to replace the battery in those, and they could do with another battery replacement).
This is a great video. All electronics should focus on efficiency especially during the energy price crisis. Low power draw also extends the battery lifetime! 💚💚💚
@@aarepelaa1142 I said all electronics. You’re right, but if everyone focused on energy efficiency as much as these guys, it would be super easy to go off grid. A couple solar panels would power everything.
@@fish9468 Amazing feats can be achieved through this but solar panels need the expensive part as well, the battery xD these headphones paired with some last gen laptop would actually outlast the night until solar is available again xD
But that's the wrap they put around the battery? Like i don't get it they're obviously wired in there in a row for battery life. Or idk maybe they're wired for more power i doubt it, so it's a casing around them, and there's probably some sort of casing on the inner batteries.
My hypothesis would be that they've actually managed to implement their own extremely fast power efficient power tracking algorithms. Audio devices like this need good power tracking to achieve high efficiency since the power supply demands always vary a lot.
Did you guys normalize for the loudness? I suspect the HyperX ones are just not very loud. I'd like to see how the HyperX at max volume compares to other headphones, and if the lower power consumption drivers sound anywhere near as good as the ones used in other headphones.
It's crazy how battery efficient these puppies are. I bought them several months ago and I only full charged them once from 20% to 100% and have been using them ever since. They are currently at 60%. One full charge lasts me for almost two months of daily office use.
I opened mine at 90% out of the box, I’ve spent over 150 hours gaming and watching movies with it, as well as video editing and music producing. Generally 80-100% on the headphones if not toned down a bit on a per app basis, and these bad boys are still at 90%. At this rate, I think they’ll last nearly twice as long as their projected 300hrs. Best wireless gaming headset I’ve bought in the last decade! Sure there’s way better professional level studio headsets out there, but the sound is great, the quality is great, and the battery is kicking strong as an ox!
are they still good? many on reddits and other forums say they have issues with w11, even on w10 cracking sound and connection issues, how are they holding out for you, im really considering them cause im so tired of recharging every other day my old headphones...
@@NostalgicMem0ries I have not encountered one of those issues personally. w10. I do occasionally have to remove and reinsert dongle in the case of it not connecting or outputting sound, but only sometimes if I walk really far outside of it's range while powered on. Very very rarely though, and I think it's a driver issue.
Why are they so efficient? Are there any drawbacks? I mean... you need a processing chip for the audio, a circuit to drive the drivers and the drivers themself. That's it, right? They use the newest, most efficient audio processing chip. But so do many other manufacturers. The drivers can't really be optimized. They just need an certain ammount of power. They have a larger battery, but not a 10 to 15 times larger one. Do they cut down on audio processing? Isn't there a massive quality loss due to this low power consumption? If it would be so easy, other manufacturers would have done 300h+ headphones too. A larger battery is essentially free for them and the larger battery life would be an selling point that would more than compensate for it. So either, there has to be another, magic tech voodo trick not shown in this video or they are cutting down on audio quality. Or am I missing something?
Thank you for the great video. Wires being soldered on to the PCB might be part of the low power consumption. With connectors you get repairability but have to account for the powerlosses caused by greater contact resistance.
Thanks for the upload. I wish it had bluetooth because i dont mind it at all to take my cable alpha to on the goes and commutes, simply because they offer great comfort and sound. It even came with a eggbag to carry it around scratchfree!
I have a Sennheiser/Epos which fairly consistently manages over 100 hours of life. With a similar feature set as the HyperX, but with the backing of the Sennheiser name and fantastic audio quality.
1:54 (2:15 is the money shot) This seems to be the reason, still doesn't feel like even if your chips are drawing 0 power you should be able to get 5-10 times the battery of your competition though honestly. WAIT is has a bluetooth energy transceiver or is that just what their friend said? Because it only supports wireless via dongle - perhaps they are just using bluetooth hardware for this, still gets a 21ms latency though according to RTINGS so I don't know why other companies aren't doing this?!?
It literally doesn't? The PCB seems high quality, the wire connections are reinforced with resin and the antenna is a separate module instead of a PCB trace. Furthermore the drivers appear very solid, case plastic is thick and seems a nice plastic. And they did not skimp on the battery, even with these very low power electronics. I don't have wireless headphones nor am I interested in them, but after seeing these insides this model is on my list if I ever want something that is not wired. They simply have no reason to use black solder mask and ribbon cables like what for example Apple does, as there is no benefit to this in use.
My guess is the headphone does not get very loud, loud sure but not distortion inducing loud and also dynamic range on them are likely significantly reduced which would reduce the power fluctuations leading to a stable and calculable battery life. I've noticed that with some wireless sections in songs where it's suppose to be almost a whisper quite get bumped up and since these are gaming headphones, that would be a desirable trait.
2 week per charge with 300 cycle of battery will last you 10 year assuming 100% use case, normally it will be around 30% for normal human. i know but replaceable battery will not necessary in this case. the headset will break even before the battery need replacement . idk how fast tech advancement but im sure this will be outdated in 3-4 year tbh
Thank you for the video. As a curious tech guy, I did wonder how the battery could last over 300 hours. I decided to buy the headphones, I was wondering if the DTS, volume and different sound settings would affect the battery life.
Lower impedance drivers actually require more current (Ohm's law) at lower voltage to produce the same power as a higher impedance driver. But since power is what we're after here, the impedance doesn't matter. I'm assuming the audio amplifier is optimized for the particular driver used in these phones.
I look up the power generated by a Logitech keyboard solar panel with 35.24 cm^2 surface area, which would probably fit on this headphone. It can generate 1.64 Pmpp (mW) (under CFL light). So in theory, it can run this headphone at around 1/3 uptime.
omg thats so interesting. try to change to bigger battery, or put it in another earcup. also try to make another wired earphones to nonwired using hyperx motherboards and so on. thanks
i don’t want a hyperx cloud alpha wireless cuz i still don’t like the wireless version of anything but i would love to get a wired one and an older model of the hyperx cloud 2 even tho i aready got a brand new hyperx cloud 2
Based on the RTINGS review, the APLHA has a lot more audio latency ( 91ms ) than the other models from HyperX. For example the Cloud 2 has 23ms of latency!!! So this could justify the low power consuption.
you need to test ANC in quiet and deliberately noisy environments. it sounds gret to not chanrge the phones for 2 weeks but im sure they would fail on other things, comfort, and sound quality which disqualifies them, at least from my list. another very big saving is the fact they are not bluetooth, are they? they got their own dongle, meaning no inefficiencies with the bluetooth stack. id immagine it just dumps the audio into the air and same backward, and it either gets there or not.
shouldn't they have something like 100h battery life for way less weight? Also I don't recall any glue used on my m50x and those sound pretty alright, clearly it's not necessary to add glue anywhere
For me, the battery life was the selling point and the reason I ordered it, and I assume its the same for a lot of people that end up ordering this. It's already very comfortable to me anyway and battery life was one of the frustrating things about my previous wireless headset. For my use case this is amazing. I do understand for people who are after ultimate comfort, that may have been a good option, but i doubt much weight can be saved by using a smaller battery as I understand most of the weight comes from the drivers and the frame.
@@redcolourbenzene7762 valid point, it's just comes down to preference I guess .
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Can I replace a battery in my headphones with a higher capacity one and still expect it to charge and work flawlessly? Without changing the power management circuit ofc. I have the CorsairVirtuoso RGB SE. While it has about 20h of battery life, I saw that there would be enough room for 3 batteries, while still leaving almost as much room for the speakers. Putting 3 in paralell would be cool. But I have no idea if it would charge.
I am thinking to buy same headset but a lot of reviewers said sound is not that good for $200 headset
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@@iraklimgeladze5223 Depends on the review. The soundquality of the headset is preatty amazing for a gaming headset, but you have to set the equalizer right. The base profile sound muffeled. Setting an custom equalizer is a must on every headset or headphones yet so many people ignore it or do not know it. The microphone quality is amazing with the non SE version. With the SE version, it may depend on the revision. I bought it at release and the larger microphone essentially was too overkill. It sounds good, but not as clear as other headsets. Apparently, they released a revision later on that improved the microphone quality of the SE by a large bit. But I can't confirm it, since nobody mentiones the revisions in their reviews. They also released a new version that adds bluetooth support. But that drives the price up to 250 USD, which is quite hefty. But overall, I say it is till a great headset for that price. The only critique I have is that the earcups might not be comfortable for everybody. They are relatively small and the entire headset is closed, like most gaming headsets. Meaning that it gets quite warm underneath the earcups.
@@iraklimgeladze5223 No. There are three versions. The Virtuoso RGB Wireless, the Virtuoso RGB Wireless SE and the Virtuoso RGB Wireless XT. All versions are wireless via an USB dongle and can also be used thedered via USB or 3.5mm. The SE version is better than the non SE version. It is made out of aluminium instead of plastic and has a larger microphone (which originally was worse, but they apparently fixed it). The XT version is even better and supports bluetooth in addition to wireless or thedered. I can't tell if it is possible to use multiple input sources at once, if you want to use it e.g on your pc and smartphone simultaneously. The standard version costs 179USD, the SE version 209 USD and the XT version 269 USD. You might find them cheaper. I bought my SE for 180 during a sale. They are expensive, but they are also good gaming headsets. However, i find the pricetag for the XT version a bit too high.
But you are using less cycles for the hours you get. If this was less efficient brand, the battery would need to be charged often and the battery cycles would be over in shorter time. This could be long lasting headset!
That's got me wondering if I could disconnect the lights in my Creative SB Evo headphones for greater battery life. I don't want lights on my head, anyway. On the other hand, the ear pads on these get uncomfortable after just a couple hours.
Bought them, and I use them 10+ hours a day. After a week of use it's still at 100%..... Its amazing but the sound quality is where it heavily lacks. The cloud II wireless are 80 dollars less with 30 hour playtime, and amazing sound quality compared to these. I use Hyper X headsets only for the last 10 years or so. They are by far the most comfortable, and have gotten a lot better.
Did you have any issues with your cloud 2 wireless audio stopping randomly? Only when I play warzone it happens but yes the cloud 2 wireless sound amazing no need to use an equalizer. I had the alphas too I like the sound on them too.
I bought the cloud 2 wireless. For sound quality, the cloud alpha wireless or cloud w wireless is better? I hope I didnt make a wrong purchase. I am all for the better sound quality.
@@theram46 yea I have own a number of headsets already. The hyperx orbit S, razer blackshark v2 pro, cloud 2 wired, and previously the cloud alpha wired. Bought this as a spare to my razer blackshark v2 pros. Just wanna ensure I purchase a better sounding hyperx wireless product as I was contemplating between the cloud 2 wireless and cloud alpha wireless. The cloud 2 wireless is about $115 singapore dollars..while the cloud alpha wireless is at $215 singapore dollars. Massive difference. Price difference due to having some online platform discounts. Just thinking whether the 300 hours vs 30 hours justify the price. U mention sound quality is bad, I nv tried the alpha wireless before but I did use the alpha wired before and yes that also sound teeny as compared to the cloud 2 wired previously
Imagine if it had a second battery in the other ear cup! 😮
Unlimited battery hours¡!!!!!!!!!!
It could then have active noise cancellation and still run amazing battery life. Or turned off and have stupidly long battery life
That was my assumption until he opened the second ear cup.
too heavy then,.
Bad idea for 2 reasons. 1 weight distribution. Can't really split the board. 2 it's hard to put batteries like that in parallel. With designs like this you need the battery protection board really close to the cell. It's a bad idea to use 2 boards in parallel. So you would have to use one but that means if the cable going through the top band shorts out you have no protection so fire risk.
Just not worth it. Also it's 1500mah. Is that not big enough?
Great example of a product being built to suit a target market and not adding functionality that isn’t needed.
No ANC so gamers can hear their mums calling when their dinner is ready and a 2 weeks continuous use battery life so they can recharge whilst having a wash.
2 weeks between washes? Who's got that much time on their hands?
ANC doesnt really stop speak as far as i noticed, its only good for noise thats somewhat repeating, like water heater bubbling, washing machine and pc fans whirring. theyre great in a train but you will hear mom calling (tried: Cleer audio enduro ANC, Korg NC-Q1)
I have those and believe me, you won't hear your mom anyway because those ear pads isolate you pretty well. I can barely hear myself speaking when wearing them which can get a little exhausting over time but thankfully the software let's you feed your mic input into your headphones.
On the other hand, anything above 20 hours is overkill. Wireless headphones don't really need much more battery life while wireless earbuds desperately need more battery life since they often last only 6 hours.
That's why i preffer Open-back headphones. I hate headphone deafness.
I wouldn't cut any points for needing to solder. If you have to pull those wires through the housing (which I have had to do on headphones before) you will end up needing to remove the connectors and that is going to make repair WAY harder.
Also, those wires look easy to solder. A beginner wouldn't have much trouble.
Regarding needing to replace the battery. I'd expect the battery to out last the headphones.
For context. 10 years ago when I was still kind of new to soldering. I replaced the battery in some 2008 era Sony headphones (forgot the model but they are around here somewhere). Not only did I replace it but I upgraded it from about 350mah to I think 500mah. Was no trouble at all cutting a bit of plastic out to make room and soldering on that board was easy. The headphones in this video look even easier to solder.
Most headphones would need soldering but rating is about how easy it is for a total beginner
Would the battery even need to be replaced with wear and tear apart from manufacturing problems. One recharge can easily last a month or even more for normal usage. 60 recharges is like 5 years. That's same amount of recharges you'd be doing in 4-5 months of other wireless headphones. It's literally the best innovation
@@FirstnameLastName-mr8lk I guess but they don't allways seem to rate things like that. Like difficult repair vs not repairable. Also I'd still not call this difficult. It's repair. Are you really expecting to not need any tools? Is that the goal/benchmark?
@@rahulagrawal327 yeah. Much like an electric car. You are cycling much less and also wouldn't have any heat issues (unlike a phone in a hot pocket or hot charging Pad)
I think the biggest issue is age/time. sometimes a battery can just become unstable. As crazy reliable as Tesla's batteries are, sometimes things just fail.
Still. One cell. Very few people are likely to have an issue.
@@Sparky400 I mean that's probably what they'd consider a max score like no repairs or just 1 screw type and length and the only tool is one screwdriver, for a complete beginner soldering is kind of hard for them the score is designed around like how easy it'd be for a total beginner like they have never repaired anything in their life
Honestly I wouldn't say a replaceable battery matters in this case. Even if the battery degrades to only holding 10% charge it will still have a 30 hour battery life. To get down to an "unacceptable" battery life of just a few hours it would be at 1% to 2%. Even with careful handling and use I doubt the wear components of the headphones like the ear cups, hinges, and headband would still be in usable condition by that point.
Thing is lithium batteries from my experience usually go down to about 50% (+-20%) and then quickly die off. No doubt a bigger battery will last longer, but not by as much as you think.
The issue is also batteries can just randomly shut off when they're getting old
@@swecreations It absolutely will. but there are some big factors that will change it such as how you charge, when, and for how long.
Heat is the big killer and the issues with batteries seemingly dying super quick after a certain percent is more to do with the fuel gauge not having a proportional output.
Trying to measure charge percent is super non-trivial.
I think this is the point where you can't really satisfy the customer tbh.
If they would make the battery easily replaceble, the next thing someone would complain about is a changable mainboard, then drivers, then whole earcups and whatever... there is always something to complain about and also every connector adds up weight.
Batteries can fail early on, get bloated and become totally useless in a couple of years
2 week of continuous playing? Amazing
What's really impressive is that they achieved this with the faster 2.4GHz connection and not over Bluetooth.
BLE or Bluetooth Low Energy uses a 2.4GHz connection man. It's using Bluetooth.
@@erjonameti 2.4ghz doesn't necessarily mean Bluetooth, WiFi for example also uses 2.4ghz and many proprietary radio protocols use 2.4ghz also.
@@_._shinonome_._ yes exactly. But he is saying that they are not using Bluetooth. That's wrong.
@@erjonameti It's not using Bluetooth. You can't pair it to your devices with Bluetooth. You need to plug in the included 2.4GHz dongle to connect it. This method of connection is known to have Lower latency and higher bandwidth while consuming more power compared to Bluetooth.
2:19 It uses bluetooth (which also runs on 2.4 GHz with 1 MHz spectrum and FHSS).
Most headphones have a PCB onboard antenna, but this has a IPEX antenna connector and that can make it more efficient too (if it‘s a 3dBi antenna instead of a -0.5dBi antenna, it already needs half power for transmitting).
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Another unusual thing is that it has a IPEX antenna connector. This means that this thing doesn‘t need as much transmitting power (Bluetooth is TDD and sends data in both directions), at least with a high EIRP.
4:55 I don't think it really matters if it has repleacable battery. With that battery life i would expect this to last over 200k hours without any noticeable difference in battery life. I think it will easily last like 50 years in normal use.
That's assuming the battery is perfect out of the box and not defective. Or that it doesn't become damaged by any number of factors.
A replaceable battery would still prevent some headphones from going to the landfill in the long run, and that's a good thing.
"Worst case scenario" is you get a set of headphones that last another 50 years. Give 'em to your grandkids and let them marvel at the retro headphones.
Li-Ion batteries will eventually degrade over time, but it's (a) the amount of current drawn, and (b) the number of charge/discharge cycles, that determines how long your battery will last before it needs replacing. With a super low current draw, the number of charge cycles will be minimized (300 hour battery life is so cool!) and therefore the battery won't need replacing as quickly.
In contract, my Corsair Void RGB headphones are (or were) a different story - rated up to 16 hours, but no way of turning off the LEDs without proprietory software meant 5-6 hours runtime at most. That resulted in a large amount of charge cycles, and as such the battery life deteriorated quickly (I have had to replace the battery in those, and they could do with another battery replacement).
it doesnt matter if you are charging them less, they still degrade over time
@@R_o_b_e_r_t but even if it degrades to 50% over 10 years, that's still 150 hours, which is 5 times the average earphones
@@davidyang9902 it will not last for 10 years lol
This is a great video. All electronics should focus on efficiency especially during the energy price crisis. Low power draw also extends the battery lifetime! 💚💚💚
Wheres the anc?
I don't think powering a wireless headset is gonna be that expensive to do to matter that much or at all.
@@aarepelaa1142 I said all electronics. You’re right, but if everyone focused on energy efficiency as much as these guys, it would be super easy to go off grid. A couple solar panels would power everything.
@@fish9468 Amazing feats can be achieved through this but solar panels need the expensive part as well, the battery xD these headphones paired with some last gen laptop would actually outlast the night until solar is available again xD
@@NotUwU-_- who needs ANC on a gaming headset tho
This guy is a fantastic host!
1:07 The edge of the battery is dented by the plastics of the top part. Less than ideal for battery safety! 🤔
Good catch man...definitely should be a concern.
Look carefully
But that's the wrap they put around the battery? Like i don't get it they're obviously wired in there in a row for battery life. Or idk maybe they're wired for more power i doubt it, so it's a casing around them, and there's probably some sort of casing on the inner batteries.
@@aarepelaa1142 There are no cells with a solid casing inside. It's a lithium pouch battery with just one cell.
My hypothesis would be that they've actually managed to implement their own extremely fast power efficient power tracking algorithms.
Audio devices like this need good power tracking to achieve high efficiency since the power supply demands always vary a lot.
My guess is aggressive power management in software which mutes output D class amp whenever possible or does some clever noise shaping.
Did you guys normalize for the loudness? I suspect the HyperX ones are just not very loud. I'd like to see how the HyperX at max volume compares to other headphones, and if the lower power consumption drivers sound anywhere near as good as the ones used in other headphones.
connectors can be desired, but soldering is not half bad either. for headphones, at least.
My wired headphones have infinite battery life 🥸
ba dum tss 🥁
Please applaud now...
they dont really have battery.
Or zero battery life?
loved the call me maybe unit of measurement
Need to evaluate if sound quality is even good. I don't need 300h of non-listenable audio.
I haven't listened to these but the frequency response looks pretty good in my opinion. 🙂
Seems like Sennheiser(now EPOS) did the same with their GSP 370 in 2019. Great tech.
It's crazy how battery efficient these puppies are. I bought them several months ago and I only full charged them once from 20% to 100% and have been using them ever since. They are currently at 60%. One full charge lasts me for almost two months of daily office use.
What's CRAZY is Some people will only charge it once a year or two!
I’ve had mine for 7 weeks and it’s still at 45% :) sooooo nice
If they made the earcups able to rotate to lay flat and added a 3,5mm port it would be the best portable gaming headsets
These are much more efficient than AirPods. They draw about 9mA per ear.
They are more efficient than pretty much any headphones out there
The battery life is important but not as much as the sound quality!. You should have compared that valuable feature too!
Sound quality appears to be good
The video is focusing on battery life. If you want a full review, there are plenty of those out there
No info on the sound quality or bass response? I bet those are very bad due to the conservation of power.
I opened mine at 90% out of the box, I’ve spent over 150 hours gaming and watching movies with it, as well as video editing and music producing. Generally 80-100% on the headphones if not toned down a bit on a per app basis, and these bad boys are still at 90%. At this rate, I think they’ll last nearly twice as long as their projected 300hrs. Best wireless gaming headset I’ve bought in the last decade! Sure there’s way better professional level studio headsets out there, but the sound is great, the quality is great, and the battery is kicking strong as an ox!
are they still good? many on reddits and other forums say they have issues with w11, even on w10 cracking sound and connection issues, how are they holding out for you, im really considering them cause im so tired of recharging every other day my old headphones...
@@NostalgicMem0ries I have not encountered one of those issues personally. w10. I do occasionally have to remove and reinsert dongle in the case of it not connecting or outputting sound, but only sometimes if I walk really far outside of it's range while powered on. Very very rarely though, and I think it's a driver issue.
I lasted 10 seconds when I looked up the song... back to the 70s
wait a second, which headphones has a replaceable battery that is easy to remove without soldering?
Some have hotswap batteries, so those for a start.
Arctis pro comes with 2 replaceable batteries and a charging dock but it's so expensive
Beoplay series h in general
Why are they so efficient? Are there any drawbacks?
I mean... you need a processing chip for the audio, a circuit to drive the drivers and the drivers themself. That's it, right?
They use the newest, most efficient audio processing chip. But so do many other manufacturers. The drivers can't really be optimized. They just need an certain ammount of power.
They have a larger battery, but not a 10 to 15 times larger one.
Do they cut down on audio processing? Isn't there a massive quality loss due to this low power consumption?
If it would be so easy, other manufacturers would have done 300h+ headphones too. A larger battery is essentially free for them and the larger battery life would be an selling point that would more than compensate for it. So either, there has to be another, magic tech voodo trick not shown in this video or they are cutting down on audio quality. Or am I missing something?
Yeah
I don't get. There has to be a drawback
An Ad that was pleasure to watch.
Love the long playtime per charge 300 hours vs my skullcandy dime 2s they stink at 12 hours
Thank you for the great video.
Wires being soldered on to the PCB might be part of the low power consumption.
With connectors you get repairability but have to account for the powerlosses caused by greater contact resistance.
The third one is in the ring at the top of the headphones
They aren't using battery for good ANC for a start.
So u r telling it's Nokia level battery life? Noice.
now send them out and get them tested for "sound quality"
because skipping signals also saves energy
Maybe they didn't used connectors to reduce resistance. Shorter wires and no connectors cause a small difference but there's still a difference
Thanks for the upload. I wish it had bluetooth because i dont mind it at all to take my cable alpha to on the goes and commutes, simply because they offer great comfort and sound. It even came with a eggbag to carry it around scratchfree!
I have a Sennheiser/Epos which fairly consistently manages over 100 hours of life. With a similar feature set as the HyperX, but with the backing of the Sennheiser name and fantastic audio quality.
Now do this once again, without the backgound music.
1:54 (2:15 is the money shot) This seems to be the reason, still doesn't feel like even if your chips are drawing 0 power you should be able to get 5-10 times the battery of your competition though honestly.
WAIT is has a bluetooth energy transceiver or is that just what their friend said? Because it only supports wireless via dongle - perhaps they are just using bluetooth hardware for this, still gets a 21ms latency though according to RTINGS so I don't know why other companies aren't doing this?!?
It looks really cheap inside for 200 dollars.
It literally doesn't?
The PCB seems high quality, the wire connections are reinforced with resin and the antenna is a separate module instead of a PCB trace.
Furthermore the drivers appear very solid, case plastic is thick and seems a nice plastic.
And they did not skimp on the battery, even with these very low power electronics.
I don't have wireless headphones nor am I interested in them, but after seeing these insides this model is on my list if I ever want something that is not wired.
They simply have no reason to use black solder mask and ribbon cables like what for example Apple does, as there is no benefit to this in use.
Like what, you expect it has metal weights inside?
some mad science got involved into this, damn
My guess is the headphone does not get very loud, loud sure but not distortion inducing loud and also dynamic range on them are likely significantly reduced which would reduce the power fluctuations leading to a stable and calculable battery life. I've noticed that with some wireless sections in songs where it's suppose to be almost a whisper quite get bumped up and since these are gaming headphones, that would be a desirable trait.
and no word about at what volume you tested it?
Initially thought this was a scam. Nice
You guys deserve 1M subscribers
Surely the sound quality has to suffer?
2 week per charge with 300 cycle of battery will last you 10 year assuming 100% use case, normally it will be around 30% for normal human. i know but replaceable battery will not necessary in this case. the headset will break even before the battery need replacement . idk how fast tech advancement but im sure this will be outdated in 3-4 year tbh
Thank you for the video. As a curious tech guy, I did wonder how the battery could last over 300 hours. I decided to buy the headphones, I was wondering if the DTS, volume and different sound settings would affect the battery life.
had no idea this existed till now damn
Sweet video 🤘🏻
I just really like this guy's voice.
Awesome! it's really impressive, can someone quote it's price?
220€
it has great fricken audio too
Before watching the video, I thought maybe they used lower impedance drivers, and maybe that's why they're drawing so little current?
Lower impedance drivers actually require more current (Ohm's law) at lower voltage to produce the same power as a higher impedance driver. But since power is what we're after here, the impedance doesn't matter. I'm assuming the audio amplifier is optimized for the particular driver used in these phones.
@@smwsmwsmw Ah damn, completely forgot about Ohm's law
But my wired earphones can never be charged
Actually, you can add a mini solar cell and it will charge it without any issue.
Wow.
If you use it outdoors on a sunny day.
@@pinkiepie1656inside, it will generate a small current to almost cut the power usage to half.
I look up the power generated by a Logitech keyboard solar panel with 35.24 cm^2 surface area, which would probably fit on this headphone. It can generate 1.64 Pmpp (mW) (under
CFL light). So in theory, it can run this headphone at around 1/3 uptime.
I didn’t know Bluetooth headphones could have such a large battery!
How much Apple Airpod pro version drawing ma ?
You forgot to look at the drivers impedence !!!
omg thats so interesting. try to change to bigger battery, or put it in another earcup. also try to make another wired earphones to nonwired using hyperx motherboards and so on. thanks
i don’t want a hyperx cloud alpha wireless cuz i still don’t like the wireless version of anything but i would love to get a wired one and an older model of the hyperx cloud 2 even tho i aready got a brand new hyperx cloud 2
What about the drivers theselves?
I have a pair of WH-H900Ns. Always wondered just how much power ANC used.
that soldering is EASY! as long as you can open a headset without destroying it, it's fine ..
But how does it sound
Awesome Review
You spelled 'Semiconductor' wrong in the PCB layout slide.
Good video m8
Does it have Bluetooth for a mixdown with iPhone and PlayStation? Useful for Discord.
Alpha is a humanitiy's top creation so far😂
6mA , did you even play somthing on them ? and howw loud they were ?
Based on the RTINGS review, the APLHA has a lot more audio latency ( 91ms ) than the other models from HyperX. For example the Cloud 2 has 23ms of latency!!! So this could justify the low power consuption.
Can we do a teardown on the Beats Studio Bud? It's surprisingly repairable!
I definitely gonna buy it if they make an all black model. I find to red to much
Cheers mate. 🍻
Make the headphones non soldered to repair them easily? What is that, common sense?
Liked for the call me maybe reference
Have you checked the driver impedance, if the impedance is lower they don't need as much power.
What about soundcore life q20, q30 and q35 headphones? They are rated for 60hs without ANC on.
1500mAh imagine what could do with 5000mAh
Maybe you should add that the driver in hyperx is super sensitive, there seems to be no crossover and low impendance
you need to test ANC in quiet and deliberately noisy environments. it sounds gret to not chanrge the phones for 2 weeks but im sure they would fail on other things, comfort, and sound quality which disqualifies them, at least from my list. another very big saving is the fact they are not bluetooth, are they? they got their own dongle, meaning no inefficiencies with the bluetooth stack. id immagine it just dumps the audio into the air and same backward, and it either gets there or not.
they are one of the most comfortable bluetooth headphones with a good sound quality for gaming.
I'll keep my KOSS PRO4-AAs, thanks.
mine doesnt tell the battery % properly, keeps at a 100% until it shuts off and then gotta recharge, when recharging it tells the right amount though.
I have one I watch this video checked it out and it does have a 3 batteries
Can I color swap these with my Blue HyperX alpha S?? 🤔
I fix it can you fix my parents divorce
So no follow-up video in 7 months ?!
shouldn't they have something like 100h battery life for way less weight?
Also I don't recall any glue used on my m50x and those sound pretty alright, clearly it's not necessary to add glue anywhere
For me, the battery life was the selling point and the reason I ordered it, and I assume its the same for a lot of people that end up ordering this. It's already very comfortable to me anyway and battery life was one of the frustrating things about my previous wireless headset. For my use case this is amazing.
I do understand for people who are after ultimate comfort, that may have been a good option, but i doubt much weight can be saved by using a smaller battery as I understand most of the weight comes from the drivers and the frame.
@@redcolourbenzene7762 valid point, it's just comes down to preference I guess .
Can I replace a battery in my headphones with a higher capacity one and still expect it to charge and work flawlessly? Without changing the power management circuit ofc.
I have the CorsairVirtuoso RGB SE. While it has about 20h of battery life, I saw that there would be enough room for 3 batteries, while still leaving almost as much room for the speakers.
Putting 3 in paralell would be cool. But I have no idea if it would charge.
I am thinking to buy same headset but a lot of reviewers said sound is not that good for $200 headset
@@iraklimgeladze5223 Depends on the review. The soundquality of the headset is preatty amazing for a gaming headset, but you have to set the equalizer right. The base profile sound muffeled. Setting an custom equalizer is a must on every headset or headphones yet so many people ignore it or do not know it.
The microphone quality is amazing with the non SE version. With the SE version, it may depend on the revision. I bought it at release and the larger microphone essentially was too overkill. It sounds good, but not as clear as other headsets. Apparently, they released a revision later on that improved the microphone quality of the SE by a large bit. But I can't confirm it, since nobody mentiones the revisions in their reviews.
They also released a new version that adds bluetooth support. But that drives the price up to 250 USD, which is quite hefty. But overall, I say it is till a great headset for that price. The only critique I have is that the earcups might not be comfortable for everybody. They are relatively small and the entire headset is closed, like most gaming headsets. Meaning that it gets quite warm underneath the earcups.
@ wait not all of them support Bluetooth?
@@iraklimgeladze5223 No. There are three versions.
The Virtuoso RGB Wireless, the Virtuoso RGB Wireless SE and the Virtuoso RGB Wireless XT.
All versions are wireless via an USB dongle and can also be used thedered via USB or 3.5mm.
The SE version is better than the non SE version. It is made out of aluminium instead of plastic and has a larger microphone (which originally was worse, but they apparently fixed it). The XT version is even better and supports bluetooth in addition to wireless or thedered.
I can't tell if it is possible to use multiple input sources at once, if you want to use it e.g on your pc and smartphone simultaneously.
The standard version costs 179USD, the SE version 209 USD and the XT version 269 USD. You might find them cheaper. I bought my SE for 180 during a sale.
They are expensive, but they are also good gaming headsets. However, i find the pricetag for the XT version a bit too high.
@ Thank you
But you are using less cycles for the hours you get. If this was less efficient brand, the battery would need to be charged often and the battery cycles would be over in shorter time. This could be long lasting headset!
I've used these headphones for over 5 months, and it still says, "Power on, battery level is 100%, Connected."
for some reason it needs the app to say the more accurate percentage.
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is it cable compatible? does it sound like the original one?
That's got me wondering if I could disconnect the lights in my Creative SB Evo headphones for greater battery life. I don't want lights on my head, anyway. On the other hand, the ear pads on these get uncomfortable after just a couple hours.
connect a switch to the lights
is there anyway to connect them to the iPad via adapter
Bought these based on your tear down
Bought them, and I use them 10+ hours a day. After a week of use it's still at 100%..... Its amazing but the sound quality is where it heavily lacks. The cloud II wireless are 80 dollars less with 30 hour playtime, and amazing sound quality compared to these. I use Hyper X headsets only for the last 10 years or so. They are by far the most comfortable, and have gotten a lot better.
Did you have any issues with your cloud 2 wireless audio stopping randomly? Only when I play warzone it happens but yes the cloud 2 wireless sound amazing no need to use an equalizer. I had the alphas too I like the sound on them too.
I bought the cloud 2 wireless. For sound quality, the cloud alpha wireless or cloud w wireless is better? I hope I didnt make a wrong purchase. I am all for the better sound quality.
@@jamesmadison3108 sound quality on the ones you bought are great, you will enjoy them.
@@theram46 yea I have own a number of headsets already. The hyperx orbit S, razer blackshark v2 pro, cloud 2 wired, and previously the cloud alpha wired.
Bought this as a spare to my razer blackshark v2 pros. Just wanna ensure I purchase a better sounding hyperx wireless product as I was contemplating between the cloud 2 wireless and cloud alpha wireless. The cloud 2 wireless is about $115 singapore dollars..while the cloud alpha wireless is at $215 singapore dollars. Massive difference. Price difference due to having some online platform discounts.
Just thinking whether the 300 hours vs 30 hours justify the price. U mention sound quality is bad, I nv tried the alpha wireless before but I did use the alpha wired before and yes that also sound teeny as compared to the cloud 2 wired previously
@@jamesmadison3108 in my opinion hyper x are the most comfortable, great quality and they are long lasting. 👌