EVE Fitting Guide: L4 Security Missions - Raven

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  • @SininRun-wq5iz
    @SininRun-wq5iz 7 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for the raven video I been trying to do a good build

  • @michaeldmckenzie
    @michaeldmckenzie 21 день тому

    Cade, I’ve watched several of these fitting videos and I’m curious as to why you sometimes don’t group your weapons? Also, why not turn off passive modules in your hud settings? Lastly, the audio sometimes cuts out in many videos.

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  20 днів тому

      I don't usually group weapons with long cycle times and for everything else it's just for illustrative purposes, so you can see what's going on.
      Same with passive modules, so you can see the whole fit.
      Sound is copyright issues(!)

  • @bigbull4014
    @bigbull4014 3 місяці тому +1

    Thx for your vid! I love the raven.
    Atm testing a passiv one, works fine so far.
    [Raven, *Jipi]
    Ballistic Control System II
    Ballistic Control System II
    Ballistic Control System II
    Power Diagnostic System II
    Damage Control II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large Shield Extender II
    Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
    Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
    Domination Target Painter
    500MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
    Torpedo Launcher II
    Torpedo Launcher II
    Torpedo Launcher II
    Torpedo Launcher II
    Torpedo Launcher II
    Torpedo Launcher II
    Drone Link Augmentor II
    Large Core Defense Field Extender II
    Large Core Defense Field Extender II
    Large Core Defense Field Extender II
    Hobgoblin II x2
    Hornet II x3
    Vespa II x5
    Scourge Rage Torpedo x3355
    Inferno Rage Torpedo x3700
    Inferno Javelin Torpedo x3424
    Scourge Javelin Torpedo x1765
    Now i have to test the Guidance Computer vs my Target Painter.
    10 years ago, i fly a navy bling one, but today with all those gangkers you have to go cheap.
    [Raven Navy Issue, *Mächtig Badabuuum]
    Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
    Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
    Damage Control II
    Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
    Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
    Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
    Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
    Pith X-Type Thermal Shield Hardener
    Pith X-Type Kinetic Shield Hardener
    Caldari Navy Multispectrum Shield Hardener
    Domination Target Painter
    Domination Target Painter
    Torpedo Launcher II
    Torpedo Launcher II
    Torpedo Launcher II
    Torpedo Launcher II
    Torpedo Launcher II
    Torpedo Launcher II
    Torpedo Launcher II
    Small Tractor Beam I
    Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
    Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
    Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
    Hobgoblin II x5
    Hammerhead II x7
    Inferno Rage Torpedo x4560
    Inferno Javelin Torpedo x2000
    Have a nice day!

  • @karelunalan
    @karelunalan 2 роки тому +12

    40 people watched and not even single one thank to your effort !!! awesome video now my next target ship is raven

  • @caseymoody2223
    @caseymoody2223 7 місяців тому +2

    Old video but I do find it interesting the difference in what people like and don't like. You said that the raven is not a very interesting ship but used to look a lot worse. I on the other hand have always loved the way this ship looks and is one of the reasons I started playing was after seeing one of these while a friend was playing and I told him I would play if I could fly one of those, way back when drake was op and you couldn't fly other factions ships

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  7 місяців тому

      Yeah I still remember the old ship models!
      Raven: i.imgur.com/Z7g0nWy.jpg

  • @Oh_that_Fab
    @Oh_that_Fab 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the vids man. Really useful :)

  • @phil4488
    @phil4488 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video thanks for making it, you got yourself another subscriber 🎉

  • @ongogablogian2525
    @ongogablogian2525 2 роки тому +5

    You deserve to be waaaay more popluar, one of the best if not the best vids on eve

  • @Taz6688
    @Taz6688 7 місяців тому

    Used to be common to fit two small deadspace shield boosters, I cannot remember if if was gist or pith, but they worked well and at the time were cheap, I remember when CNR were rare and close to a billion, and deadspace boosters were cheap, now it (last time I played) has gone round and CNR's were cheap and deadspace rare and expensive, think they nerf'd the Russian farmers.

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  7 місяців тому

      Yeah small deadspace reps were very popular back in the day!

  • @BanggyShao
    @BanggyShao Рік тому

    Nice fit! I will try it next round

  • @DennisDinges
    @DennisDinges 8 місяців тому

    What I do these times facing several levels of opponents, is to target the battleships first, then the (much) lesser damage dealing cruisers. I fly a sentry Dominix with jump drive. Sentries do really good damage. With preparation, I don't need to warp out and in again, because of my skill levels and the MJD

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  6 місяців тому

      I always just like to clear out the Battlecruisers first; they do a decent amount of damage but die real easy!

  • @ofechner
    @ofechner 2 роки тому +2

    Great video. Please keep up the good work!

  • @snozz2004
    @snozz2004 Рік тому +1

    I like to deactivate the MWD in fitting simulation as it won't be running all the time inside the mission sites, that way you can see how much cap regen you need for system/tank management

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  Рік тому +1

      Yeah it's always good to experiment in turning various modules on and off to see what effect it has on cap! You rarely need everything running all at the same time. 😎

  • @draiguk
    @draiguk 8 місяців тому +1

    There's loss of sound at 15mins for about 2 mins. Don't spend your time fixing your headset - it's loss of sound on the video. Hahaha.

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  8 місяців тому +2

      Yeah I got hit with copyright claims and had to mute it out 😠😠
      Usually the AI manages to remove only the music and nothing else but sometimes it doesn't work and I gotta mute the entire section

  • @ffnam1299
    @ffnam1299 Рік тому +1

    I was looking through your playlists - do you have any raven fits with cruise missiles? Thanks for the awesome vid!

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  Рік тому +5

      Not on this channel yet, but here's a classic L4 sniper fit.
      With my skills this gets 862 DPS with fury missiles (plus 100-150 from drones) out to a range of 140km (missiles actually go to 167km but targeting is 140).
      You could swap out a missile guidance compute for a sensor booster to extend that target range out.
      [Raven, Raven - PVE L4]
      Ballistic Control System II
      Ballistic Control System II
      Ballistic Control System II
      Capacitor Flux Coil II
      Capacitor Flux Coil II
      Missile Guidance Computer II
      Missile Guidance Computer II
      Large Shield Booster II
      Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
      Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
      Large Micro Jump Drive
      Shield Boost Amplifier II
      Cruise Missile Launcher II
      Cruise Missile Launcher II
      Cruise Missile Launcher II
      Cruise Missile Launcher II
      Cruise Missile Launcher II
      Cruise Missile Launcher II
      Auto Targeting System II
      Large Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
      Large Ionic Field Projector I
      Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
      Hobgoblin II x5
      Hammerhead II x5
      Missile Precision Script x2
      Scourge Fury Cruise Missile x6000

  • @SilverforceX
    @SilverforceX 10 днів тому

    I find that Torps look good on paper but in practice they are bad for so many missions with masses of Cruisers & Frig around.

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  10 днів тому

      For sure, damage application can be an issue but then most Battleships can field a full flight of light drones to take care of frigates and destroyers as you smash the larger ships with torpedoes.

    • @SilverforceX
      @SilverforceX 4 дні тому

      @@CadePlaysGames Cruise Missile apply better for majority of L4 in my exp. Precision Cruise for small, Fury Cruise for large targets.

  • @tyrelgleeson4
    @tyrelgleeson4 2 роки тому

    Great job!

  • @TheBeeman410
    @TheBeeman410 11 місяців тому

    Good stuff 🍻

  • @Copolansky
    @Copolansky Рік тому

    Nice video! I still can´t make it CAP Stable. I guess I´m missing some skills or implants

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  Рік тому +1

      Skills should be enough to get you there, but you can fit "enduring" versions of as many modules as you can.
      And remember that the auto-targeter is never actually activated, it's just kept onlined to give you extra max targets.😎

  • @user-it2cq7es4h
    @user-it2cq7es4h 5 місяців тому

    การต่อสู้ในจิตนาการของฉัน

  • @rolandrayar9336
    @rolandrayar9336 6 місяців тому

    why do you have to form fleet with yourself ?

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  6 місяців тому

      Just to be able to use the "tags" to label the order in which you want to engage the enemy.

  • @crazysonorangaming
    @crazysonorangaming Рік тому +6

    One oversight, 2 dedicated Shield hardeners would use 40 GJ of cap per 10s cycle, 2 multispectrum use 64 GJ. Also, never consider MWD in your cap calculations, you can fight without it, so essentially if you swapped out to the 2 dedicated hardeners and didnt figure the MWD in you can be cap stable with out all the dead weight of all those cap modules/rigs or your implant. Also consider a MWD has a capacitor capacity "bonus" of -20% so you lose cap due to fitting one. Better option is a MJD plus an AB using 2 low-slot missile computers to make up for the mid-slot missile computer. You do lose a little bit of range but applied damage goes up, and it tanks more, longer range and better applied damage, not to be confused by raw dps, there is a difference. Even though my fit only has 4:20 cap duration it can always MJD out a ways take a breather if needed, but with being able to tank more than twice the dps of your fit that is not likely to happen.

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  Рік тому +3

      Absolutely.
      I was just being lazy with this fit. I always err on the side of "as little micro-management as possible" for video fits 😎

    • @mellogo1d191
      @mellogo1d191 Рік тому +3

      hey there buddy, would you mind posting your fit please ?? I really like the sound of the MJD raven, however I'm yet to buy a raven...I'm stuck in my drake for the next little while, so I'm a little clueless as to the exact fitting requirements !!

  • @sergeishamanski8531
    @sergeishamanski8531 2 роки тому +1

    The fit is interesting to play with. But t2 ammo makes me think that the expences will be too high to make L4s a viable option to make money. But i must agree that running missions will bring more fun than semi-afk cruise+mjd fit.

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  2 роки тому +2

      T2 ammo isn't all that expensive, and when you run missions faster you make more money!

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  2 роки тому +1

      @@Howtopaintstuff Also true. The LP is a decent chunk of your income in L4 missions.
      www.fuzzwork.co.uk/lpstore/
      www.ellatha.com/eve/LP_Stores.asp

  • @zorgzev96
    @zorgzev96 Рік тому

    In my Raven fit, I dropped the cap mods for targeting mods so i can target out to 240 km with a 225 km missile range. They can't hit what they can't lock lol

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  Рік тому

      Long range is easy mode! 😎😎

    • @zorgzev96
      @zorgzev96 Рік тому

      @@CadePlaysGames it does make it easier for sure! I like the Raven, especially since the Ishtar got the drones nerfed a few years ago.

  • @k4muk3nu
    @k4muk3nu 2 роки тому +1

    And now look at the Navy Scorp.

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  2 роки тому +1

      Next time I have 700mil laying around.....
      [Scorpion Navy Issue, *Scorpion Navy Issue PVE L4]
      Capacitor Flux Coil II
      Ballistic Control System II
      Ballistic Control System II
      Ballistic Control System II
      Ballistic Control System II
      Large Shield Booster II
      Shield Boost Amplifier II
      Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
      Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
      Missile Guidance Computer II
      Missile Guidance Computer II
      Large Cap Battery II
      Large Micro Jump Drive
      Cruise Missile Launcher II
      Cruise Missile Launcher II
      Cruise Missile Launcher II
      Cruise Missile Launcher II
      Cruise Missile Launcher II
      Cruise Missile Launcher II
      Auto Targeting System I
      Large Bay Loading Accelerator I
      Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
      Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
      Hobgoblin II x5
      Hammerhead II x5
      Missile Precision Script x2
      Scourge Fury Cruise Missile x6000
      😎

  • @carllhy
    @carllhy 2 роки тому

    Cool one !

  • @donaldtyree6021
    @donaldtyree6021 Рік тому

    Did you have on any implants that effect your capacitor in any way? I cannot seem to get my ship to be stable with this fit as it stands.

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  Рік тому +1

      Yes very probably!!
      Pretty much throughout this series I have neglected to jump into an empty clone with no implants, so your DPS and cap life etc may be a bit different.....my bad!! 🥴😵‍💫
      But then cap doesn't need to be stable....it only needs to last long enough to accomplish the task at hand and you only rarely need to be running every module on a fit at the same time. 😎

  • @crazycrentax
    @crazycrentax 2 роки тому

    Do the Dread pirate sites still respawn on the first 2 like they used to, was one of my favourite sites when they did that.

  • @shlomikashkash7367
    @shlomikashkash7367 9 місяців тому

    Hey, I've just finished my required skills to proparly battleship, do you have a specific raven cruise missile suggested build to run L4 missions??? (preferably not slow af - microjumpdrive is nice)

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  9 місяців тому +4

      This here will work; upgrade everything to tech 2 as your skills/wallet allow!
      501 dps from the missiles but using faction ammo bumps it up to 576.
      Targeting range 140km, missile range way in excess of that(!)
      You could replace one of the guidance computers with a sensor booster if you really, really need more targeting range.
      For reference, if everything was tech 2, this does 862 dps with fury missiles.
      The tech 2 fit replaces one of the capacitor rigs with a warhead calefaction.
      [Raven, Tech 1 PVE Sniper]
      Crosslink Compact Ballistic Control System
      Crosslink Compact Ballistic Control System
      Crosslink Compact Ballistic Control System
      Mark I Compact Capacitor Flux Coil
      Mark I Compact Capacitor Flux Coil
      Large Clarity Ward Enduring Shield Booster
      Copasetic Compact Shield Boost Amplifier
      Enduring Multispectrum Shield Hardener
      Enduring Multispectrum Shield Hardener
      Astro-Inertial Compact Missile Guidance Computer
      Astro-Inertial Compact Missile Guidance Computer
      Large Micro Jump Drive
      'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
      'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
      'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
      'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
      'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
      'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
      Auto Targeting System I
      Large Ionic Field Projector I
      Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
      Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
      Hobgoblin I x5
      Hammerhead I x5
      Missile Precision Script x2
      Scourge Cruise Missile x6000

    • @shlomikashkash7367
      @shlomikashkash7367 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@CadePlaysGamesthank you for the help🎉

  • @plebantv5754
    @plebantv5754 Рік тому +1

    I have only 300 dps hmm... I have no skill >D

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  Рік тому +1

      Yeah skills will affect the performance!😟

  • @DR10002
    @DR10002 2 роки тому +3

    I wanna like this but im 495 years away from T2 torps so Ill never know.

  • @kenzhang4449
    @kenzhang4449 Рік тому

    Sorry man, Just got 1 question, why I can't make it cap stable, am I missing some skills? I've trained magic 14 all to 5

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  Рік тому

      Could be some other skills which are not part of the 14 thing or maybe I forgot to change to an empty clone (again) so this fit was getting bonuses from my implants?

  • @WhatTheFlipKev
    @WhatTheFlipKev 2 роки тому

    I've tried this fit and I can't get it cap stable even with level 5 all in Pyfa. Did something change recently or are you running implants?

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  2 роки тому +2

      I'm not 100% sure but this character may have a 3% cap implant. You could always just take something off a low slot and throw on another cap flux coil.

    • @WhatTheFlipKev
      @WhatTheFlipKev 2 роки тому +1

      @@CadePlaysGames I checked again and I think it is something funky with Pyfa. I'm currently training the skills on an alt for this ship. If I switch back and forth between an all level 5 and the alt the cap goes back to stable. Very odd. Thanks for the video.

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  2 роки тому +1

      @@WhatTheFlipKev After checking, that character does indeed have an EO-605 cap regen implant 😝

  • @rolandlee6898
    @rolandlee6898 2 роки тому

    I fail to see how this would be better than the passive shield fit.

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  2 роки тому

      Passive shield makes your signature radius huge so you take more damage, which can make it worse than an active fit.
      Lots of extenders also chew up your powergrid and can restrict your fitting options.
      Since all battleships got a 2x buff to extenders, passive does make slightly more sense now; it's down to personal play style. 😎

    • @crazysonorangaming
      @crazysonorangaming Рік тому +2

      There is a Sig radius module now, but if you get a high buffer through high resists you dont blow your sig radius into orbit as much and can get way more dmg specific HP that way. EHP is way over-rated and should never really be used unless fighting sleepers or in PvP. For some reason I see a lot of people who forget to boost resists really high, it even helps out with armor reps/shield boosters ability to keep you alive. 80% resists mean a 100 hp/s booster would keep up with 500hp/s of incoming damage, 50% resists will only keep up with 200 hp/s.

  • @zeleniypewpew
    @zeleniypewpew 2 роки тому +1

    very poor tank to L4 missions

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  2 роки тому +2

      Yeah this was all about maxing the DPS and seeing what we could get away with 😄

  • @plebantv5754
    @plebantv5754 Рік тому

    do you have any fun with the golem?

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  Рік тому +1

      I fly a Vargur, and see no reason to spend another billion isk on a Golem that would perform about the same. 🤣
      Golem are excellent ships though (well all the marauders are super OP for L4 missions in the current meta).😁

    • @plebantv5754
      @plebantv5754 Рік тому

      @@CadePlaysGames And say: D for level 5 missions could you fly a Titan? purely theoretical question: D are there any problems with this?

    • @plebantv5754
      @plebantv5754 Рік тому

      @@CadePlaysGames Just too expensive or risk losing your ship?

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  Рік тому +1

      @@plebantv5754 Not sure if Titans would get through the mission gates.
      But then people have been using Carriers for L5 missions for years.
      Marauders are so powerful now that they can solo (some) L5 missions.

  • @JohnHexxusgames
    @JohnHexxusgames 2 роки тому

    can you show a drene fitting like Miasmo or Dominix for Lvl 4 missions? I've been runing lvl3 with miasmo and T2 Médium dones without any issue. I dont have to move cus I cant tank all the damage, but Im not sure if I can go against lvl4. Please help.

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  2 роки тому +2

      Sure, I can do another video on drone ships.
      No problem at all.

    • @JohnHexxusgames
      @JohnHexxusgames 2 роки тому

      ​@@CadePlaysGames Thank you i appreciate it

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  2 роки тому +1

      @@JohnHexxusgames May be a few weeks but I'll add it to the schedule

  • @vrproject4k882
    @vrproject4k882 Рік тому +1

    that's the dumbest fit i have ever seen on a raven, you never need torps in a L4, nor do you ever want to use a microwarpdrive, you're signature radius will be so large you won't even have a tank

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  Рік тому +2

      The point of this series is not to be perfectly efficient. Otherwise it'd be nothing but snipers.
      This series is about having fun and doing different things, including silly meme fits.
      And it still works, because regular L4 missions haven't been updated in living memory.
      😎

    • @vrproject4k882
      @vrproject4k882 Рік тому

      @@CadePlaysGames dude, with that fit, i bet you lose a ton of ravens, you have no damage control, 0 shield extenders, you're using a microwarpdrive, wasting 2 mid slots for targeting range when you don't even need them in L4s, you're just asking to lose your ship, you call it fun, i call it losing ships, the first time you get webbed, you're fucked

    • @vrproject4k882
      @vrproject4k882 Рік тому

      @@CadePlaysGames oh and missions were updated in 2018, and 2014, and oh yeah 2012

    • @CadePlaysGames
      @CadePlaysGames  Рік тому +1

      @@vrproject4k882 I haven't lost a ship on an L4 mission for well over ten years.😎

    • @vrproject4k882
      @vrproject4k882 Рік тому

      @@CadePlaysGames bullshit, the first time you get webbed is when you'll lose your ship using that fit, and 10 years ago, ravens didn't have the buff they have now that has very recently made them viable again in missions