Running level 4's for the Sisters is my all time favorite activity in EVE. Last good loot for me was Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link. And then the Loyalty Points kick in as well. It will not make me rich but I love it during watching videos. Thanks for this one.
I know I’m a little late to the party. Does speedrunning this actually give the most bang for your buck? Aren’t the battleship bounties and loot worth a full clear?
FYI Leshak is pretty good in missions and PVE in general unlike most other trig ships. Unspooled DPS is quite good, and it has great tracking and decent range.
Hey man i just got into a rattle myself and finding it really hard trying to figure out a fit. I managed to get a few application modules like enhancers, omni tracking, sensor booster, but then i cant fit a xlarge shield booster because of cpu/cap and even my large booster is only at 10m cap stability. Im not sure how many of these application modules i can remove in order to fit cap boosters etc without losing a TONNE of applied damage. [Rattlesnake, This Is Awkward] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Missile Guidance Enhancer II Multispectrum Shield Hardener II Multispectrum Shield Hardener II Large Clarity Ward Enduring Shield Booster Sensor Booster II Large Micro Jump Drive Missile Guidance Computer II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Cruise Missile Launcher II Drone Link Augmentor II Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell II Hammerhead II x5 Curator II x2 Warden II x3 Tracking Speed Script x1 Missile Range Script x1 Scourge Cruise Missile x1027 Scourge Fury Cruise Missile x2112 This is my current fit, the tank is AWFUL, this booster barely makes my shield move and also is only 10m stable. Im not sure how much i can remove from the meds/lows without losing loads of damage application in order to get some remotely decent tank or some cap stability. I'm a pretty new player and my only other battleship is a Sentry domi. My Wardens can be manually told to attack from like 119km or something silly on the domi, but for some reason with this fit, i cant tell them to attack anything past 81km? Why on earth is that.. I have 75km optimal and then theres 42km falloff. I have no idea why the range is almost 40km short with sentries on my rattle than on my domi. I REALLY want to get this working because this is a ship i always wanted when i started playing 4 years ago (before i quit and very very recently came back). But nothing i put in my fit seems to work or fit correctly. I also do not want to bling it out with a bunch of faction mods because i cant afford to do that yet. Missions dont pay well..
I almost never drop heavy drones mission running. If things are sub 20km, I'll drop a Gecko, but other than that you will get the best DPS from sentries. Sentries don't have to travel between enemy groups, so their DPS is there the moment you tell them to engage. Heavy drones are slower than molasses in January, and all drone types hesitate for a moment when you tell them to engage a target. You end up waiting so long for your heavies to engage that your missiles have already killed the target, making the drones useless. Sentries are where it's at. Just bring some more drone tracking mods and a flight of lights for the frigates.
Hey can you tell me your fit please? im trying to use sentries and i just cant find a fit that has enough application whilst also giving me enough cap/tank
@@Jake-um4gg swap the MWD with an MJD, try to fit t2 drone link augmentor. MJD away if DPS is too much and hit them all from afar. I let the wardens deal with the frigs/destroyers. The sentries can apply damage since the rats would make a beeline towards you. You don't need to tank with the MJD fit except maybe the Guristas missions
I use something similar. The only problem I have is when there are many Sensor Dampeners. I have 2 Warden II and 2 Curator II plus some Vespas and Salvage. Just keep pulling range with a MJD if you need to and it's really pretty nice.
What about Angel Extravaganza bonus room? 242 hp/s is not enough. Hell, my Praxis tanks around 300 hp/s with capbooster (so it's kinda capstable for quite some time) - and it's still barely enough (usually eats all cap charges and damage goes pretty deep into the armour). Of course, you can skip this room, it's a bonus after all. But the greed for juicy bounties is so real! :)
I fly a HAM tengu and can kill her in the second room. If you manage that, she'll drop the 4mil implant, if you only catch her in the last room she won't drop anything. I have roughly 1000 dps out to 38km, but the ship is much faster to warp and fly for less than half the price, and the way that ship soaked up damage while not being cap stable is scary. I don't even have reps on mine, and never seen the shield drop that fast. Well at least I'm not even considering Rattle's for L4-s anymore. Still interested how an Iki would do tho.
In My experience looting sometimes if its good drops increase isk per hour, salvaging not really but it depends on mission to mission. Because sometimes there are a lot of enemies you can loot/salvage while fighting to not waste time.
my question is could you use a snake with like faction sentry drones? And Faction cruise missile ammo becuse it will take me like 70 days to get T2 sentry and T2 cruise missiles or should I pick a normal battle ship instead ?
@@ZeroWalker26 damn man... I feel ya. The price change is indeed annoying. That said, if you "buy in bulk", depending on your finances, you could get it cheaper and slide into that marauder for missioning goodness
@@capnchronic408 sadly the 15.99 was my budget I was willing to pay for mmo´s and sadly did not have the isk for more sub time and I don´t feel like trying to make 2-3 bill in cruisers or scaning. Sure I could maybe do abyss but it sucks when I can´t use t2 launchers on a gila.
Not a bad video, but I was trying to see how a sniper fit did against large groups in lv4s. I can do lv4s with a Scorpion NI, but it feels like I am eating through more missiles than I need to.
Nah the items I have on my ship cost approx 300 mil evepraisal.com/a/ubfnc and thats including the rigs. The most expensive item are the mwd and booster which cost about 100 mil each. If someone decides to gank my ship anyway the ganker is almost certain to not come out with a profit.
according to lore guristas allegedly stole the scorpion blueprint and rebuilt it under the name rattlesnake (im guessing thats why they have that colour).
Rattlesnake sux. It's got 35-40% of it's damage in drones. Heavy drones. The kind that are easy to pick off and they miss all the time whilst shooting anything smaller than a cruiser. Also you can only use TWO of them. Meanwhile in a parallel universe there's something called a Caldari Navy issue Scorpion. Basically the exact same ship but it has an extra medium slot, an extra missile slot, longer targeting range, more dps potential with main weapons, more tanking capabilities and/or the opportunity to fit at targeting computer or target painter and it's also about 15%-20% cheaper than the Rattlesnake. Do the math, if you will.
Actually, if you know how to fly the Rattlesnake, it is better. The fact that you don't understand it shows you only know how to fly one ship. I also fly a NI Scorpion, and I prefer the Rattlesnake in most cases. But, then again, I understand how to fly both optimally. ;)
@@Murph_. Actually i purchased the scorpion on my amarr battleship character. I was the kind of person that thought ammo based weaponry is stoopid because you'd just go BRRRRTT!! and then you are effectively helpless due to the lack of ammo... so i hated it. But then i actually tried it and i found cruise missile ammo consumption rate to be more than acceptable and also the missiles (with the right fit) were accurate enough to hit frigates which is crazy. So basically i went from all the amarr battleship lineup "lazorz are the best, ammo sukz, you're all idiotz" kind of person to "holy sh1t this is actually legit". I get the reason why the rattlesnake is more expensive and all but the fact that quite alot of the ship's dps comes from heavy drones coupled with the fact that it has fewer launchers and medium slots is a huge downside for me.
Hi, 5months from the future here. Do you still feel the same about rattlesnake? I have found it best with only 4 cruise and 2 drone augmentor 2's. 1300 dps at 105 km with sentry drones.
@@bobdole3757 Oof sentry drones... Hold my mayonez zkillboard.com/kill/91782220/ Probably it's precisely what this guy thought when he equipped the two wardens and drone damage amplifiers. But then they surrounded him and all that dps meant nothing. I bet they took out one of the wardens first and he withdrew the other or something. Anyway, it's not okay when more than half the dps on your long range missile platform battleship is made up of easily disposable consumables with plenty of counters that can easily take them out of the equation.
Running level 4's for the Sisters is my all time favorite activity in EVE. Last good loot for me was Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link.
And then the Loyalty Points kick in as well. It will not make me rich but I love it during watching videos. Thanks for this one.
I have been trying a version of your fit but with Gecko's and so far its killer. Love the Gecko.
I know I’m a little late to the party. Does speedrunning this actually give the most bang for your buck? Aren’t the battleship bounties and loot worth a full clear?
FYI Leshak is pretty good in missions and PVE in general unlike most other trig ships. Unspooled DPS is quite good, and it has great tracking and decent range.
nice! do you mind sharing your fit for l4s?
Hey man i just got into a rattle myself and finding it really hard trying to figure out a fit. I managed to get a few application modules like enhancers, omni tracking, sensor booster, but then i cant fit a xlarge shield booster because of cpu/cap and even my large booster is only at 10m cap stability. Im not sure how many of these application modules i can remove in order to fit cap boosters etc without losing a TONNE of applied damage.
[Rattlesnake, This Is Awkward]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Missile Guidance Enhancer II
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Large Clarity Ward Enduring Shield Booster
Sensor Booster II
Large Micro Jump Drive
Missile Guidance Computer II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell II
Hammerhead II x5
Curator II x2
Warden II x3
Tracking Speed Script x1
Missile Range Script x1
Scourge Cruise Missile x1027
Scourge Fury Cruise Missile x2112
This is my current fit, the tank is AWFUL, this booster barely makes my shield move and also is only 10m stable. Im not sure how much i can remove from the meds/lows without losing loads of damage application in order to get some remotely decent tank or some cap stability. I'm a pretty new player and my only other battleship is a Sentry domi. My Wardens can be manually told to attack from like 119km or something silly on the domi, but for some reason with this fit, i cant tell them to attack anything past 81km? Why on earth is that.. I have 75km optimal and then theres 42km falloff. I have no idea why the range is almost 40km short with sentries on my rattle than on my domi.
I REALLY want to get this working because this is a ship i always wanted when i started playing 4 years ago (before i quit and very very recently came back). But nothing i put in my fit seems to work or fit correctly. I also do not want to bling it out with a bunch of faction mods because i cant afford to do that yet. Missions dont pay well..
I almost never drop heavy drones mission running. If things are sub 20km, I'll drop a Gecko, but other than that you will get the best DPS from sentries. Sentries don't have to travel between enemy groups, so their DPS is there the moment you tell them to engage. Heavy drones are slower than molasses in January, and all drone types hesitate for a moment when you tell them to engage a target. You end up waiting so long for your heavies to engage that your missiles have already killed the target, making the drones useless. Sentries are where it's at. Just bring some more drone tracking mods and a flight of lights for the frigates.
I agree. MJD plus sentries ftw :-)
Hey can you tell me your fit please? im trying to use sentries and i just cant find a fit that has enough application whilst also giving me enough cap/tank
@@Jake-um4gg swap the MWD with an MJD, try to fit t2 drone link augmentor. MJD away if DPS is too much and hit them all from afar. I let the wardens deal with the frigs/destroyers. The sentries can apply damage since the rats would make a beeline towards you. You don't need to tank with the MJD fit except maybe the Guristas missions
I use something similar. The only problem I have is when there are many Sensor Dampeners. I have 2 Warden II and 2 Curator II plus some Vespas and Salvage. Just keep pulling range with a MJD if you need to and it's really pretty nice.
MJD is quite nice havent ever used it much myself
Did they change something balancing wise? I can't seem to get it to have enough CPU for this fit...
3% cpu implant
advantage with lashak is the you popp out the mtu and get 4 salvgers while fighting
It's actually possible to volley Scarlet with AC Mach, she stays a few seconds sometimes and its enough to kill her with autocannons.
@Aceface Hello what i have to do to unlock l4 mission ? Im playing for Caldari
So how does this fit handle the L4 Angel Extravaganza Bonus pocket?
can you please share your skills for that fit , i have fitted it and getting only 870 dps and missing 13.9 cpu
got a overview of my skills planned for a future video but in short I have 5 in almost everthing, some 4s
@@Aceyface skill que 5 in everything……..me :
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What about Angel Extravaganza bonus room? 242 hp/s is not enough. Hell, my Praxis tanks around 300 hp/s with capbooster (so it's kinda capstable for quite some time) - and it's still barely enough (usually eats all cap charges and damage goes pretty deep into the armour). Of course, you can skip this room, it's a bonus after all. But the greed for juicy bounties is so real! :)
I actually dont do that room since its not worth my time i could have spent doing other missions
5 million bounty how?? im doing missions lvl 4 i see only 1 million max bounty help pls?
How are you able to access the gates without killing everything? Every mission I run requires me to kill all ships guarding the gates.
I cant seem to get this fit to work. I get CPU overload of 21.2. I have full fitting skills, what implants are you running?
I have a 3% cpu implant games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=13216
I played around with this one and got it cap stable with the mwd off..
Oh :( I prefer to be cap stable at elast with mwd on for mobility purposes
How did you manage the CPU? I have Weapon Upgrades and CPU Management on V but still lack some CPU...
I fly a HAM tengu and can kill her in the second room. If you manage that, she'll drop the 4mil implant, if you only catch her in the last room she won't drop anything. I have roughly 1000 dps out to 38km, but the ship is much faster to warp and fly for less than half the price, and the way that ship soaked up damage while not being cap stable is scary. I don't even have reps on mine, and never seen the shield drop that fast. Well at least I'm not even considering Rattle's for L4-s anymore. Still interested how an Iki would do tho.
What's your Tengu loadout?
Why do you not use heavy missiles?
Would it make more money per hour if you kill all ships, collect the bounty and salvage the wrecks?
In My experience looting sometimes if its good drops increase isk per hour, salvaging not really but it depends on mission to mission. Because sometimes there are a lot of enemies you can loot/salvage while fighting to not waste time.
I cant enter galenti space any more
Your Pith C type X-Large says 971 HP WTF on the game a Pith c xl produces 726 how are you getting an extra 245 hp?
my question is could you use a snake with like faction sentry drones? And Faction cruise missile ammo becuse it will take me like 70 days to get T2 sentry and T2 cruise missiles or should I pick a normal battle ship instead ?
Go for a marauder instead, if possible within an acceptable timeframe. They literally walk through L4's
@@capnchronic408 well I was 15 days away from fully flying a marauder with T2 guns but nah CCP decided to up the price to 20 euro.
@@ZeroWalker26 damn man... I feel ya. The price change is indeed annoying. That said, if you "buy in bulk", depending on your finances, you could get it cheaper and slide into that marauder for missioning goodness
@@capnchronic408 sadly the 15.99 was my budget I was willing to pay for mmo´s and sadly did not have the isk for more sub time and I don´t feel like trying to make 2-3 bill in cruisers or scaning. Sure I could maybe do abyss but it sucks when I can´t use t2 launchers on a gila.
Why put cap rigs instead of sentry drone dmg rigs? Even more dps
Hello Aceface - would you be so kind as to post your Malediction build?
Not a bad video, but I was trying to see how a sniper fit did against large groups in lv4s. I can do lv4s with a Scorpion NI, but it feels like I am eating through more missiles than I need to.
Ahh I prefer to have more tank and be closer to the action. Ya the drones help as well to bypass the ammo requirements.
any problems with gankers?
Nah the items I have on my ship cost approx 300 mil evepraisal.com/a/ubfnc and thats including the rigs. The most expensive item are the mwd and booster which cost about 100 mil each. If someone decides to gank my ship anyway the ganker is almost certain to not come out with a profit.
What about having rattlesnakes in all the systems your missions can spawn and the commute with a ceptor
they are an amazing source of income :D ua-cam.com/video/M8aFOke4Yxw/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Aceface
u want someone to put a 1+ Billion Isk rattle in EACH system a mission can spawn..LOLAWDY!
no up close and personal ?
Rattlesnake, looks like a scorpion. Strange naming decision CCP
according to lore guristas allegedly stole the scorpion blueprint and rebuilt it under the name rattlesnake (im guessing thats why they have that colour).
@@Aceyface Appreciate the lore insight. Thanks for clearing that up!
Is this still relevant, or has things changed?
Still relevant
What items are you trading with your LP?
Right now mid grade virtue beta but changes from time to time
How much does your rattle cost?
The simulator estimates 1.1 bil at the bottom right when he shows the fit.
the items I have fitted to the ship cost 300 mil according to evepraisal evepraisal.com/a/ubfnc
The ship hull costs about 600-700mil nowadays
mjd sniper is a nobrainer build for a droneboat
Rattlesnake sux. It's got 35-40% of it's damage in drones. Heavy drones. The kind that are easy to pick off and they miss all the time whilst shooting anything smaller than a cruiser. Also you can only use TWO of them.
Meanwhile in a parallel universe there's something called a Caldari Navy issue Scorpion. Basically the exact same ship but it has an extra medium slot, an extra missile slot, longer targeting range, more dps potential with main weapons, more tanking capabilities and/or the opportunity to fit at targeting computer or target painter and it's also about 15%-20% cheaper than the Rattlesnake. Do the math, if you will.
Actually, if you know how to fly the Rattlesnake, it is better. The fact that you don't understand it shows you only know how to fly one ship. I also fly a NI Scorpion, and I prefer the Rattlesnake in most cases. But, then again, I understand how to fly both optimally. ;)
@@Murph_. Actually i purchased the scorpion on my amarr battleship character. I was the kind of person that thought ammo based weaponry is stoopid because you'd just go BRRRRTT!! and then you are effectively helpless due to the lack of ammo... so i hated it. But then i actually tried it and i found cruise missile ammo consumption rate to be more than acceptable and also the missiles (with the right fit) were accurate enough to hit frigates which is crazy.
So basically i went from all the amarr battleship lineup "lazorz are the best, ammo sukz, you're all idiotz" kind of person to "holy sh1t this is actually legit". I get the reason why the rattlesnake is more expensive and all but the fact that quite alot of the ship's dps comes from heavy drones coupled with the fact that it has fewer launchers and medium slots is a huge downside for me.
2 words, Sentry Drones.
Hi, 5months from the future here. Do you still feel the same about rattlesnake? I have found it best with only 4 cruise and 2 drone augmentor 2's. 1300 dps at 105 km with sentry drones.
@@bobdole3757 Oof sentry drones... Hold my mayonez
zkillboard.com/kill/91782220/
Probably it's precisely what this guy thought when he equipped the two wardens and drone damage amplifiers. But then they surrounded him and all that dps meant nothing. I bet they took out one of the wardens first and he withdrew the other or something. Anyway, it's not okay when more than half the dps on your long range missile platform battleship is made up of easily disposable consumables with plenty of counters that can easily take them out of the equation.
I used to fly a cruise fit Rattle then I tried heavies with a Gecko. I shall not be going back to those long range missiles that's for sure !
Could you please explain why
If just bpo or bpc I would use the leopard shuttle warp 20au/ sec but all my ships travel faster than they say because of an implant. Which is nice.
To big of a ship for 60m/h
U can take an Astero and you make 1b an afternoon so around 200/h and more (or less) depends on luck in some way.
How?
@@Sheltark scanning relic sites in sansha space in null
Try 0.0 its way better for isk