The progression in this game really favours those who have been playing long. No matter how much new players whale the latest units, they would never realize its true potential due to bad gears. It's sad to see people drawn to it due to a unit being released but not the game itself.
Yeah, it is, it’s just a bit of a contradicting game design having gacha and mmo because mmo’s are more long term hardcore grind while gacha’s are usually whale and you’re powerful. Honestly I think they should focus on the mmo stuff more, still giving good waifus but I think the MMORPG systems need to be focused on.
I dont really think leveling is an issue, at least not if your trying to rush it (Armor upgrade is another story if you are trying to get specific stats). For example i dont get as much time as i had before so i get about 2 hours a day but still level decently. Level timeout or story timeout i got only if i stayed in 1 area or just did the astra story only. I do think they should do something about that.
I made this video on tower of fantasy mostly to generate discussion, so, if anyone has any thoughts on the game or comments on the things I said, please feel free to use the comment section to voice your opinions a bit. :)
And I don't know about other region but in SEA, this game is very, very, I mean very alive. World bosses always dead in every channel which is like 40+ channels, newbies asking advices etc, returnees asking to do JO or stuff, veterans making segs joke every minute in world chat, my crew honor point maxed out in three days, basically it's doing well in SEA.
Ooooo, that’s nice to know, I’m glad it’s doing well in SEA, my main concern is the slow downward trend but I’m really glad it’s doing well in SEA, NA is a little bit more slower? dead? but we have a lot of similar things happening on some days, it’s just a bit slower but I also remember that it is only 1 server now so that’s probably a massive contributor to the game seeming more alive. But yeah, really happy to hear it doing well in SEA 💙.
im so burn out of this game but cherimu really is keeping this game alive! nowadays i dont really play it i only watch her streams to keep up with the TOF stuffs and shes just so bubbly and cheerful towards her chat!!
In terms of character design, it has been near excellent if not excellent since Lan (2.4), I love every single one of them, and currently Nan Yin is peak. Nan Yin looks like an authentic asian high born, this might be weird to say but Nan Yin is the first anime character that when I look at her I was like "now that's a real asian looking anime waifu" she looks genuinely asian, I love her.
True, the character design has been good since 3.0, they’ve been getting better and better but I feel they need some more iconic designs that are instantly recognizable, I feel that would being more people into the game but they are headed in the right direction. 👍
@@TheStardustyNovatrue. Character design isnt enough. They have to make characters that will actually leave a mark on a persons heart 😂 and would be unforgettable
I remember playing a lot when the game released, and when I got my dream team (frigg saki lin) I kinda just stopped playing lol. I always look back at the game and want to come back but Im just afraid of getting overwhelmed again. I dont have anything against the game, it was actually a really relaxing game to play in some of the most stressful times I've had so it;ll always have that special place in my heart, it just seems intimidating to get back into after missing so much content and changes
That’s fair, I think the game is better then ever but it’s changed a lot and might be a bit overwhelming. I would say take a look at some of the new characters and trailers and if you’re interested just give it a casual try again if you like 😊.
2000hrs so far, really like this game. from my POV this game has potential to be alive again as it was since more and more characters are joining standard in the future. The combat is amazing. Also, there are compensations which I really like, the more bugs they got, the more dc they give us. Dentge
I truly love this game I came from destiny and everything about this game is truly remarkable. It’s a crying shame more people are not playing it or have left. In the couple of months that I’ve been playing, I put up 500 hours so far.
Yeah, I also came from destiny and if I’m being honest this game is a lot better (destiny was the last game I spent 2000 hours on before this XD). ToF has a lot of good parts and I’ve enjoyed it since day 1, it truly is a shame that ToF is slowly going down, I think with the revamp they might be able to turn things around though if they make sure to ace it. I have a lot of hope for ToF, tbh, I hope to be playing in 10 years.
I completely agree with this, characters like Nan Yin and Shirli/Nemesis are quite unique and recognizable but there’s a lack of good unique/recognizable designs and they need to work on it quite a bit.
Ive been playing since launch, i know its issues but ive seen the improvements as well. I agree with all youve said. I look forward to the revamp and more events in the future (cause i love the mini events to get rewards they actually seem to get those right now a days and make them fun.)
I can see every now and then people from 2 different sides of coins would complaint of these kinds of stuffs: - Give time gated content to slowly build their progression (Nah, people complete all the contents so fast in 1 day that they need more) - Give them rushed contents via rapid updates for new worlds and new simulcra (Nah, not enough time to save resources).
I don’t think time gating is needed in this type of game, they already have dailies, weeklies, events, regular updates, they don’t need to time exploration, quests and stuff like that.
Ha! I popped up in that world chat comment you made at the start. Day zero player with 2.5k hrs here with every banner skin. I try and be helpful in world chat and help with content, but can think of a hand full of improvements. Should add more worthwhile rewards to Balanced JO's and overhaul JO's in general Add a pet battle system similar to World of Warcraft's one The racing physics and system overall needs a complete overhaul (Mirroria one) A racing and breeding system similar to Choco racing from FFXIV Earlier banners need a re-balance to bring them up a little Private island SSR chip crafting needs to include newly added standard chips (Nemesis etc) New world Mini bosses need loot tables updated to include Ttian mats and a chance of gold chest keys Guild housing and decoration system similar to what FFXIV has Vendor to allow you to trade older mats you don't need for new ones you do ie SR / SSR shard boxes A reward system to incentivize running through older content to help new players (JO / World Bosses) A whole new battle ground type system and associated gear system for PVP (similar to Wow BG's) Entire MSQ (main story quest) system needs an overhaul to smooth out the experience A new game engine that better supports large amounts of concurrent players A re balance of the current gear system ie armour and things like Crit and crit damage stats etc Fixing mounts so they feel more impactful, instead of getting stuck on pebbles Epic quest chains for combat pets or even a method to upgrade and gear them up? Fishing system needs better rewards like adding a rotation of fashion items and new chips ie Nemesis etc Daily bounty system needs to be expanded to include all zones like artificial island also World boss loot tables need a rework like adding to forced open chests like chance of titan mats Cosmetic system needs an overhaul to add one or two more cosmetic slots like wings?
Yo, small world! 🤣 I think you make a lot of great suggestions here, I think for the engine though all they need to do is improve the net code which should be something they’re able to do separately. Also, I absolutely love the ideas for pets, these are all great ideas and would make the game way more fun. For the gear I think they just need to add 1-2 more interesting pieces of gear and add on more to the stim system so you get more improvements from playing the game a lot. For the cosmetic system I think they need to double the amount of hair and stuff you have, it’s too limited at the moment. I think wings wouldn’t work too well though since with the jet pack that would cause a lot of clipping and lag issues. Overall though I hope there’s a lot of updates to cosmetics, that’s very important, they already have one of the best anime character creators, if they make it better it’ll truly be something special, especially if they add a lot to the male character creator XD. I think for pvp they need to make it so you unlock everything in pvp and you fight with pvp-based gear, they also need more exciting game modes since they haven’t added anything for like a year. Also, epic quest chains are a must, especially hidden ones, that would hype the community up so much.
@@TheStardustyNova Just seeing a company acknowledge that things could be done better and are actively reaching out to the player base is a healthy and good sign for things ahead. Now it will come down to how that information is parsed and what can be implemented and when.
Recovering TOF addict reporting in, i used to no-life this game from week 1 for about 10 months, was one of the most active players i knew and surely clocked over 1000 hours but the official launcher wouldn't count them. TL;DR: this game is an abusive relationship simulator, i do not recommend it unless you're an oiler looking to flex your wallet or the filthiest of casuals or have crazy amounts of self control. Tower of Fantasy does like draining your wallet (or, in my case, time, i was F2PBTW) and might be hard to drop because, while it's gigatrash in some aspects, it executes some others really well. I'm assuming TheStardustKnight doesn't care about meta and damage whatsoever because i don't think even once he mentioned the huge power disparity between F2Ps and whales as well as the character power creep, which are the biggest problems of the game by far for me. In G game, you can see people literally maining Ganyu or Hu Tao for 2-3 years straight, meanwhile in T game they don't even let you throw your pulls at outdated favourite waifu to advance her past A6 and keep up with the new characters. This is just awful for both faithful waifu enjoyers and people responsible for character design (since their work just gets thrown into the bin half a year later). But since most of their designs these days are just different flavours of big booba mommies, maybe it's not that big of a deal. As for the power disparity, queueing into coop and getting outdamaged 2-4 times over by someone who isn't even trying is the worst feeling since you're not even playing the game at that point. TOF community is somehow mostly okay with it, gacha brain is truly built different. Speaking of which, T gamers are some of the most casual gamers i've ever met (it was my first exposure to gacha though), not sure where the take about most remaining players being hardcore comes from. Nobody wants to try when they can just pay to win or get help from somebody who paid to win. Hardcore gameplay mostly happens when some big whales team up to go for Origin of War leaderboards or something. Ironically, it was way easier to find a proper team on a smol server before server transfers/merges happened, now it's only new players or whales left. "As we all know Tower of Fantasy was dead only a few months after release" is an extremely normie take as well, it was declining but not dead. Wasn't dead 2 months ago when i left, just wasn't fun. You could still queue JOs or find whales, i mean, people to play with in world chat and stuff. From what i heard from gateoo back then, it's gonna be kept alive as an experiment type of project while Hotta is gonna concentrate on their new, non-MMO game. Employees are gonna be trained on TOF before getting shifted to working on that new game as well. On a more positive note, i did meet very nice people thanks to T game, even though all of them quit. And i do like TheStardustKnight's tuber model.
Hey, thanks for your comment! First thing, I play frost only since it suits my play style so I’m not really confronted by power creep but it is a major issue, replied to some other comments where I went into a bit more detail, mainly didn’t mention it since I only play frost I don’t care about meta basically at all, it was only extremely bad to the point where I noticed it with fenrir and fiona. What I meant by hardcore is a lot of players, I would say most have over a few hundred hours making them pretty strong and up for some more mechanically harder content that is a bit of a fun challenge for most of the group not to be mindlessly pressing buttons on, I know from personal experience it’s getting boring mindlessly soloing every activity with nothing that I need to use my brain on. Origin of war is cool for whales and stronger players but it’s just a dps and buff check, not mechanically or actively interesting or thrilling like a WoW/Destiny style raid would be if they added it. The third thing was meant to be a half joke but by that point a lot of peoples servers were dead and it had lost 99% of its players and already received a bad reputation which is why I made the joke, it’s a common joke that a lot of people make about the game and although it’s not dead yet, by 3 months it was already down the road of dying. Also, thanks for the compliment on my vtuber model, I appreciate it 😊.
The first day of release on steam, I was hit with a bug that set my birthday to 12/31 with no way to reset it. My birthday was 9/19, but the 9 would've been set to 10% according to the chooser. I sent a ticket, but the e-mail they sent back didn't tell me that I needed to respond to actually keep the ticket alive. So I didn't bother playing at all after half an hour of game time.
I would probably enjoy this game if I was a whale but I simply cannot as a f2p/monthly pass due to the sheer difference of power, some people don't care about that yes but I do and it's really demotivating since the game essentially forces you to play with other people to complete stuff
I get that, I think that’s also the main drawing point as well though, the fact you need to play with other people is sorta part of the enjoyment at least for me and others, as someone really introverted and a bit of a shut-in I really enjoy having to play with others, that’s why I play it more often then a game like Genshin, I either have an extremely hard fight or play with others, it makes the game more fun for me. But I do get not wanting that, that’s why there’s games like Genshin, ToF just isn’t the game for you at the moment and that’s fine :). I will say also they might be adding a version with the exact changes you want in the near future though, I think you’ll love that, stay on the lookout. 😊
@@TheStardustyNova I do like playing with others it's just that if you are a f2p playing with a whale your damage is so miniscule that you might as well not do anything, that's the thing I dislike
Oh, I get what you mean now, yeah, that’s true, some players have such insane numbers that you feel like you’re doing nothing and it’s not that fun feeling like you’re powerless, I get that. I personally don’t care how I do, I guess I’ve just been desensitized to it but I get what you mean. It also doesn’t help that there’s such a high disparity between gear that one player can do 10x your damage depending on their gear. I would probably be a lot higher damage if I had decent luck but my luck is trash so I can’t do as much damage. I literally don’t have 1 100% perfect piece for the element I use after a full year.
I tried play this game 3 times. First time it was on launch, I played up until I was blocked from progression for the third time and I just got bored of throwing myself into a wall, so I made a pause. Second time was several weeks later, maybe month, when everything from first area was available and it was second update I think. For some reason game decided that I need a lot of boosts, and when I played it felt like I just got thrown from the point at which I stoped straight to current endgame. Which might be not really bad thing on itself, but I had no progression that you might got from farming all this weeks, and game just blocked me from easier content, I was able to go only in latest unlocked dungeons and bosses. In the end, everything was oneshoting me and I wasn't dealing any damage to enemies, so after about a week of playing basicaly dark souls mode, I droped game in hopes that it will be better next time. Third time was this fall, after 3.0 and just before anniversary I think. Game deleted my old account so I had to play from the start, which honestly was a lot of fun. Up until one crutial point. I don't know why but after some specific tutorial mission game just said "yeah, all this content from first region, it's all already happened and now here you go, 2.0 area have fun". And again I just felt lost about what's happening, what am I supposed to do, how and where am I supposed to play. I wanted to enjoy game for what it can do, but I really love to imerse myself into worlds, get to know characters, game lore, stories that there is, have fun overcoming chalanges in terms of puzzles, difficulty in combat, and understanding of gameplay mechanics. But for some reason on every step towards game that I made, it felt like game was purposfully making everything in it's power to make me hate it or be dissapointed in what I got. I believe that this game can be fun and enjoyable, and I wish I had this kind of expirience with it, but sometimes things just didn't work. I hope that devs learn from what they had done already, and I will be able to play and enjoy it.
i just ignore those genshin players, im a day 1 player from sea server, i just think genshin is not even any better XD they play a solo game and pretend that its an mmo and brag with their friends what they got XD atleast in tof theres more players to run around with.
Yeah, that’s completely true, I’m day 1 from NA and Genshin and ToF are completely different games, kinda wish the devs didn’t say they were gonna be the Genshin killer because the 2 games have completely almost opposite audiences.
@@TheStardustyNova yeah, just play and have fun. some players just think that they are high and mighty and their opinion is always the best, when in fact they are the problem not the game XD.
Genshin is better in terms of overall visual quality and animations but to be fair that's because Hoyoverse is just a bigger company with a bigger budget.
@@Itachiflameamaterasu Also a massive factor is ToF is a MMO where you can have 20 people on screen at once all using the same animations and stuff which is the main reason for worse graphics apart from Hoyo making 2.3+ billion dollars more a year
I remember playing this game and like it at first, it was new and refreshing, clearly it wasn't the same quality as other games, the story was god awful early on, i don't even know if it truly got better. I guess they realised how bad it was since the game almost FORCE YOU to skip so much of the story to the point you are trying to find Sherly to "oh i have to talk to her as a cyborg now" man if you really wanted to follow the story the game kinda dropped you hard lmao. Another aspect i found to be sad. They never (at least not last time i checked) released new SR weapons. Only SSR. Meaning you would most likely max out the SR weapons in copy rly early on. But with all the SSR selectors and such, you had no reasons to use them at all. So once it was done, pulling had virtually no interest aside from getting the newest SSR weapons. Which i ended up growing tired of it. It also created the issues that if you couldn't keep up with new unit released, you'd just get left behind, at least that's how it felt to me. Kind of curious what will happen in their 2.0 tho
I started playing a lil over 2 months ago and I've been fairly enjoying my time. I do wish there were more male characters tho haha. The combat is fun, the exploration is fun and rewarding and as someone who doesn't dump money into gacha, I've managed to get several SSR characters and two of them at A6 which is surprising considering I haven't even explored several areas since the game asks you to skip story. I wish the menus and UI was cleaner, everything is so layered on each other it's confusing at times, but besides that I really like ToF.
Some of the biggest reasons why I quit is that the game simply did not have a compelling enough story and lore, and the exploration experience was very poor. I could look past everything else because frankly, I didn't care, just like with how I play Genshin. I don't care for the gacha, I don't care for f2p vs p2p, I don't care about end-game and I don't care about combat/gameplay. I love open world games, and I love them especially when the world is rich with meaningful points of interest. Comparing to some of my most favorite worlds such as Hyrule, Tamriel, The Lands Between and Teyvat, ToF's world didn't really seem meaningful or thoughtful. The early game's areas were boring, lifeless and mostly felt like a checkmark on the dev's bucket list. The enemies weren't interesting, the stories weren't interesting, the lore behind the world wasn't interesting, the characters weren't interesting. As for the playable characters, there was little to no incentive to get them besides their looks and gameplay, except for maybe Nemesis. Exploration felt unintuitive, as if the game was constantly fighting against you. Granted my impressions of the game were based off the first 3 months since launch, but I think 3 months is already too much time for me to become invested in any game based on my required criteria. I am aware the game has improved a lot since then, and I might give it another try later on, but I have less and less time to actually play these days. For people who understand Genshin, as of 4.2 I haven't even touched Fontaine yet, and this is coming from the same person who used to 100% new areas within days if not hours back in 2.x
Damn, play Genshin 4.2, the story is amazing but for ToF I can’t say the same, it’s the exact opposite of what you’re looking for, it’s more focused on combat and fun gameplay with other players, the story is getting better but it’s more of an afterthought, I think the story might be good by 4.0 though with the direction they’re heading in, maybe.
Good video. I would have liked it more though, if you moved your avatar more to the left or right side of the screen. I haven't played the game and liked to see how the gameplay looks while you talk. I still enjoyed it.
Sorry ‘bout that, just don’t have time this month to edit stuff, normally would have gameplay and full editing but life happens 😅. Glad you still enjoyed it though 💙.
My take on Tower of Fantasy, a game I've been in since day 1 clocking in over 1000 hours. Around version 2.3, when the whispers of 3.0 started, I made the call to step back.The game's grind was real, and I threw myself into it, getting all the gear. But the RNG and power creep started grating on me, even with some hefty spending. Bagged the units and outfits, but the pay-to-win aspect was looming large. What really got to me was the lack of responsiveness from the devs. The in-game systems seemed a bit off-kilter, and I wasn't alone in feeling the frustration. The player base was feeling the same way including some of my friends in my crew. Now, the game's not bad. It has its moments, but it needs more of a significant revamp, I'm not in a rush to jump back in unless they pull off some serious upgrades.
@@TheStardustyNova Frankly, the concept doesn't seem appealing on paper, and the multitude of flaws, especially the necessity for a new legacy server within just a year of the game's global launch, raises concerns. My optimism is at best cautious, but at worst, I'm leaning toward a pessimistic view of Hotta and their team. There have been too many unfulfilled promises and persistent issues. The gameplay is enjoyable but not translating well into overall success. The game's financial performance, with only 600k in revenue last month, further compounds the worries. As someone who used to play, I sincerely hope that Hotta and the team take the time to genuinely listen to their player base and address the core issues for a more promising future.
@@maccavann8519 actually something that does come to mind: the past update as of now, 3.4, they did bring up the issue of some people being unable to do a version challenge, and provided a conditional compensation. some other compensations have popped up here and there but seeing as they even did a huge survey before the rehaul - at least for cn - there's still some hope that they do try their best to keep up w players
Depends on the character but, yeah, to deal ideal damage to compete against other players for rankings you need to almost whale, I will say A1 or A0 is usually fine these days but in an MMO context gacha becomes a lot more of an issue, it’s just the nature of how gacha works, it’s inherently P2W, at least the content is beatable as a F2P which I can’t say for a lot of gachas. I hope in the future though they possibly give more pulls since it is a game where you sorta need to pull a lot for 1/4 characters, would be nice if it was easier to get characters, doubt this will happen though since this is their business model and how they get money.
10,000% agree about the progression system😂 literally every word you said about it is exactly how i feel and I love the game otherwise...I started playing w/ ps launch and have like 10,000 hrs over some yrs into MMO's and the gear advancement system is really my major problem w/ the game...it doesn't feel like you just have to hit the lottery to get a good piece of gear, it feels like you have to hit the Powerball...its a lil too much rng involved and can definitely be a huge turn off....I finally realized that pc players having such insane stats is mainly due to them having to have advanced 1000's of pieces of gear since the game been out and thats just insane imo
Yeah, I've been playing launch on PC and basically rolling 5-10 pieces a day and I still don't gear perfect. Also, glad this video resonated with you, I tried my best to speak about some of the genuine issues and good parts about the game :)
For New players.. it’s Good game…Even Great Game if you don’t have tons of options. I am casual cuz I’m a busy guy. I stopped Genshin cuz too much grind e space for my tablet.TOF is Perfect for me to pass the time it’s smooth it’s large it’s colorful, good presentation good movement good combat. I’m not into grinding yet I can progress smoothly no complaints I don’t care about numbers I literally just have a good time. For this type of mindset I Highly Recommend
The one thing that made me go casual is the energy collecting in domain 9, when it 1st came out i was like ok this kinda sux but ill cope & 100%, then the update came out & now the energy is spammed all over the place, looking at all the crap on the mini map is overwhelming to me, some of my crewmates like it, “gives them something to do” for me tho if i try to collect them i normally log out after 10 mins of farming them cause i get burnt out, now i just log in, do some raids, oow, & v.a, than hang around chatting with my mates, i dont do dailies or main quest anymore.
honestly i felt this except with the overhaul of some of the systems in d9, esp. tianhe pavilion and the hendeca frostbite system. you would think that with such systems it would warrant at least a few lines of dialog in the main story missions, but no, all that actually shows one around is either a tooltip or a meager quest
started playing this game with 3 more friends and enjoyed it a lot , they all left 1 week later and i ended up alone and played for about 3 months , it got realy boring playing alone so that was mostly what made me quit , getting back to the game will be difficult since everybody is geared and i have nothing compared to them , so i wont even be able to run anything new
17 hours in as a new player who only plays this game when I'm out of resin in Genshin, pretty aight. Exploration movement is hella nice, best one so far. The ui for new players is kind of overwhelming, too much currencies exploding in my face. Combat is pretty nice. Audio needs more bass, it's kind of like hitting something with a stick. Look at mgr:reveangence, now that's a katana sound. side note: is there any setting that I can tick to turn off the blacks on the screen during cutscenes? kinda cringe to have that lol
Nice to hear your opinion and glad you’re having fun. Yeah the UI definitely needs basically an overhaul, half of the things in the game people probably don’t know exist like the minigames. I will say the newer characters have better audio design and feel better but audio design overall need major improvements. For the question I’m not exactly what you’re talking about, might be a glitch? Not sure, I can probably help you in my discord if you like 👍
My main issue is with story cutsean animation and lipsynce, Your character's height resetting when in cutseans. Combat is fine and powercreep isnt an issue to me at least cuz i mostly do world explore and team based things, but i agree that older characters should be buffed a little. More daily and weekly stuff that give dark crystals, red n yellow balls. Repeatable rewards in world or have more stuff there that give dark crystals or red and yellow balls. Last is the lag for new bosses tho i think that will be the hardest to fix.
I just think we need more imitative Gachas or JRPG's, the field should grow out more so then the devs know what works and what doesn't. They just kinda flubbed on too many aspects, the landscape design, the animations, the story etc, but if other great examples existed by now maybe they wouldn't had made so many underwhelming choices. Also I personally think 3 characters on field at once isn't enough, I worry ZZZ is making this same mistake too - especially when you don't have reactions.
I think ToF is growing and getting better and probably one of the stepping stones to what will eventually be a great game that releases in the future. To your 3 character point tho, I think it’s fine at least in modern ToF, gameplay is so fast and fluid with so much built into every kit that I don’t think 4 characters are needed, honestly, I look forward to a similar game where just playing 1 character feels really good like it does in Nier. Fleshed out abilities enough to make 100’s or 1000’s of hours of gameplay feel good for every single character, I hope that happens one day.
Good thing you never experienced anything bad about the community. Maybe it's a server thing? I was called a schizo and there's so much pedos for Ruby and Mimi in the world chat. Also I'm a tank main and honestly they need to change the gameplay that really needs it, otherwise just remove it entirely.
I play on PC on NA and generally people are pretty nice there, just memes and fun but there may be some not so nice people I haven’t ran into. About the Loli thing, I know some people joke but I don’t think I’ve ran into anyone genuinely that degen, if you have just block/mute them, they weird af. There’s always weirdos in communities you just need to block and ignore them 💙.
Yea I immediately noticed the sus behavior during the first few days when the game released on PS. I'm glad op hasn't run into them but that doesn't negate that their are alot of edgelords/racists and weirdos spamming the chats
@jojolyneee sorry to hear that, guess PS players must be more toxic (the CoD players are migrating now they’re getting banned for toxicity lmao) I really wish ToF got some mods to monitor chat.
Kinda forgot about it since it’s not as prevalent with how I play the game (for context I just play frost and don’t really pull anything else so if when there is power creep I don’t really notice it since I already got the new character, the time it was over the top noticeable was fenrir and Fiona but it’s been awhile since that) definitely is an issue just forgot about it while I was recording this video unscripted, will mention it if I make a more in depth fully scripted version of this video in the future. 👍
Issues are spounges enemies. some enemies ignores impact. Gacha system is horrible as always. No block or parry mechanics for tank. Devs should implement simple text to speech generator if they are unable to get proper voice acting
Pretty sure the voice acting was a glitch but it sucked. Parry and block mechanics were a thing for Saki sort of but I think they need more of that, maybe a relic? Just a simple guaranteed 50/50 would majorly improve the gacha and for the sponge thing, I don’t really know, I have really high dps so I don’t really see those issues but could be the case and would be cool to see improvements. Oh, this actually made me remember, the most recent boss fight Nan Yin and story bosses as a whole recently have had really cool mechanics and parries and dodge timings, those bosses have actually been sick and might be what you’re looking for, I hope they add those in like a 1v1 or raid weekly boss fight. What would be really cool is having all of those bosses and a some mechanic stages as a dungeon raid like in Destiny. Anyway, yeah, a lot of good points, thanks for the comment :)
??? I’m not sure but from my research you may be confused, the only post and things I found pertaining to what you said was they were talking about the extra rewards you get for and during the CBT as in you get extra pulls then you would in the fully released game, not that you would get rewards when the full game releases for participating in the CBT. There was also a ton of stuff you got on launch so it may have been one of those if that’s what you’re talking about but I can’t find anything about them promising CBT rewards in the way you’re talking about?
ToF in the beginning was so-so. Lots of bugs and most of the cutcenes in the history were bad but,most of the characters design were good and already had a good map with a lot of little stuff to do. It has improved a lot since 2.0. I think the best part is the open world and the story. Its fun to play in group but all the mmo farm/grind stuff gets boring after some time. Yes,they should invest more in the marketing here in the east. I like the game a lot. 😊
That’s kinda funny that this is one of the only videos on my channel where I didn’t script it at all, not even ideas wise. I think it sounds that way because I cut out parts where I rambled and a lot of the pauses just so the video didn’t drag.
As someone who does have about 750 Hours In TOF Overall. I have Enjoyed Playing the game getting Units I wanted, I do still play TOF occasionally but my Interest in the Game is Dropping each month that Passes by ever since the second Half of 2023, (I started The Game in January of 2023) and I have Picked up Playing HSR which I legit like Better ever since Early June. I'll probably Play the Game here and there and wait and see what the Revamps Hotta will Try to do to Revitalize the Game but Unless Something Interests me in this Game again for more then a BIt, Imma Just play it Less and Play HSR More
Yeah, I get that, just found a game that’s more fun for you and you’ve been playing that. I play HSR as well, there’s just not enough to do for me so I have it as a side game XD.
I want exploration to have more rewards because currently you get like 10-20 red pulls for completely exploring a new area and it’s spread over weeks of grinding that you can’t just go and do, you need to wait for multiple weekly resets and are time gated from just being able to explore and play however you like. The exploration would be way more fun if you could just explore with a point where everything is explored and you don’t have to wait until weekly resets just to do the exact same thing for basically no reason other then padding and time gating. Basically I want to be able to choose how I explore sort of like in Innars instead of being time gated and repetitive exploration. Also, having more rewards in chests and stuff in the new areas would be nice since they took away all the mini-rewards in domain 9.
1 content creator doesn't doom a game, he only covers stuff from his perspective and has made quite a lot of positive videos as well. If anything is to blame it's the fact ToF didn't attract many CC's to make positive content on the game (this is my opinion on the CC situation months after this video).
@TheStardustyNova what positive videos? I have time right now. It's like 2 out of 40 of them. He's the biggest name talking about it, which screws up the algorithm, screwing up people who haven't played past 1.0
Honestly, I think more people just need to make content on the game, I mean, I got 10k on this video just by talking about the game and was one of the search results over stix for a bit there. If we get more interesting content creators I think it would be alright. 👍 Give it a try yourself if you like 😊 I would love for the perception of the game to change, would make it so I can make more positive videos on a game I still like to play quite a bit.
came here to listen to discussion whilst watching clips of ToF gameplay footage. Gets a blue haired anime character's face in my face throughout the 16 minutes... Bro, why bother putting the gameplay footage behind you if you're going to block/obscure it? If you're making remarks, discussions points, why not show us clips of said points to back up your thoughts and comments?
Because I wanted to make the video this way XD this has no script and near to no editing and that’s what I felt like doing for this video, simple as that. If you want a higher effort video there’s past videos and future ones but this one I just felt like talking and discussing a topic, that’s it.
One thing I disagree about is the exploration. It literally sucks. It's hard to get to certain places even with the gadgets and alot of the times there's no indicator on where to go. It's one of the big things that makes me wanna play the game less. There are also too many things to collect in open world which makes 100% the map very hard and tedious. Also the UI sucks so bad on PS5 its annoying. They have alot of approving to do on this game
I find the exploration movement great personally, if you have all the relics getting around is easy especially if you have ling han. Since your on PS it makes a bit more sense the movement isn’t as great as you probably don’t have everything maxed out yet. But, yeah, I agree on the too many things, vera and aesperia were alright but domain 9 with the energy balls and barely any rewards is just ridiculous. And yeah, UI needs a complete overhaul.
@@TheStardustyNova yeah although I’m invested, once Yan miao comes out I’m done pulling for characters for a while cuz I’ll finally have all my teams complete haha and I’ve come too far to just stop playing outright lmao. Also is the steam version better than the pc client? Idk if it’s better performance wise or not
@@currentlyvibing9916 About equal, might be worse, not sure, haven't tested. And yeah, that's fair, I just prioritize 1 team being frost since it seems to always be my playstyle, I just recommend prioritizing one team with f2p DC after yan miao.
day 1 player still playing alot of houra daily even there nothing to do all map 100% execpt new one bcoz the other place is locked need to finish the donation and i already expect alot of bug going on since bug in mmo is common since old days but the other bug is quite funny and really fun to use with ur friend my only real issue with the game is when there not much player playing they lower channel line ofcourse the server gonna lag when alot suddenly come online to comeback check the game or for certian event i just wish they put all map channel to 99 to lessen the lag go to less populated channel and explore for other alot quit bcoz they cant keep up with grinding since bygone ranking is quite important in early game thats where u get alot of module for gears and map exploration as f2p u want to grind all map since alot of important resource only u can get alot lile DC red nuc mira and veron coin is by exploring people dont have time for it. i also recommene for new player focus on getting ATK and 2 Element ATK on gear then u lock the 4th stats so all stats go to those three bcoz when u titan gear them down the line u will have all coverage on. 4 element so once u buiod other elememt u dont have to worrg abouy gears and new playet focus exploring importan to grab in Asperia and Artificial Island is supply pod and dont worry about domain 9 energy system focus choicing in key box the old pass key to open chest in Vera region fot gachapon matrix u will easily get good matrix u can use till end game so whete u want to focua on exploring probably Vera region where u can get good matrix and gears alot of gold dust to spend to buy geatsrs
If people keep leaving the game, thrown money at ads wouldn't make more money, cause the money new players bring in would most likely be pay for those ads. And if people who would play a game because of watched a ads then they may as well check online to see how is the game going, and after seeing it is not that active, they may not even playing it, so high chance of waste ads money.
The problem I’m presenting with the ads is that they have already done a lot of improvements and the game has slowed down quite a bit on losing players (it’s more just gonna be a slower death now but is coming) but even though most people do say the games improved and the new stuff coming out would keep quite a fair few people playing they’re not advertising it very much. Even if they just sustained the money they spent on advertisement it would not only make the game feel more alive with new players coming in, it would also present better with higher player counts which would give the game a better reputation. Of course this isn’t the solution, as I showed near the end of the video they are planning some sort of revamp which is the real solution (revamping and continuing to add better content) but the advertising would work nicely as a way to build up to the revamp. Of course they don’t need to advertise and I prefer they focus on making the game better but it is highly concerning that they don’t even try to push the game as almost every single other gacha does. They haven’t even done 1 collab on global which most gacha’s do by this point. It feels like they have given up but I did record that before the announcement of a revamp so if they’re doing a revamp to make the game a lot better that makes a lot more sense and I look forward to the future.
i think true tof need remake building from scratch again make new game learn from their mistake no bug, polished, no clunky, better story, stop powercreep, learn from genshin from character design genshin player spend money for simp not for damage like tof
I disagree on a complete remake, first off most of the players that left won’t come back, they blew that chance and second most of the current player base would leave if they took away their 10k accounts and stuff, that’s not fun or good. What I think is a good idea along those lines is basically to do a new game+ sorta thing, you keep all your gacha stuff, cosmetics, items, relics, etc. but they do a story line that takes us back to the start of the game and continues with a revamped/rebooted version of ToF while still retaining your stuff accept it’s now better balanced on the weapon side and the game overall looks better with a better storyline and game design. Also, the main thing that would be taken away is your gear and levels basically resetting everyone back to day 1 but with the OGs still having their weapons and stuff. I also think at this time they could combine PS servers with the rest.
Currently? It’s like once a month they release a bit of content and they do 1 banner per month, I feel that’s slow compared to everything else I play. Back in 2.0 it felt overly fast but I feel like it’s alright now.
@@siamshikdar Japan is probably one of if not the biggest though, if they don't like it global and china probably won't either, they're basically doing a full rework currently since it was received so badly over there which is why it's been delayed so long.
Japan gacha scene is trash, tell me any recent good gacha games came from japan. Literally riddled with cash grab attempts. China is the currrent leading in gacha games industry. FGO is a mess with qol and the only thing it's still alive is Fate IP. Pincrone global killled by cruncy and Uma Musume global is in the ditch. If jp devs are satisfied with having "yes man" from jp only, then let them be it. Also jp people still investing in FGO is the biggest reason every jp games will fail on both global and China. As much as I want to be an "JP apologist" for liking their anime, sadly the jp people are clueless and greedy to maximum.@@TheStardustyNova
@@siamshikdar Memento Mori, Fire Emblem: Heroes, Street Fighter: Duel, hatsune miku games etc. There's plenty that comes from japan it's just not what you're looking for probably, when it comes to anime-like mmo's, they have the best, FF14, when it comes to RPG's in general, they probably made the best, Elden ring, japan makes a lot of good stuff, they just don't prioritize making gachas like china does. Japanese people have plenty good taste in games, they practically invented most of modern gaming. I think there will be a good anime mmo eventually but ToF wasn't it and blue protocol is to be seen on if they're able to fix the game before it launches to global since the global audience hated the game just as much as JP did when they released the game and a lot of global players got their hands on it. Just give it time, there'll probably be the game you're looking for in the future but that probably won't be for another few years at the minimum, and hell, it may be ToF after they do a complete revamp, who knows.
i try this game just because Ling Han she really beautiful not much game that will deliver Asian Character look good like this and i really like this game now sure this game need to be improve but at least it fun to play that all i need for the game haha
I don't know Tower of Fantasy and I don't have time to play it even if I could, but I wish it the utmost sucess, just so it can threaten Genshin Impact and force Hoyo to improve their game, which I play and intend to keep on playing at least until I see the conclusion to the amazing story. PS: this video would be much better if you didn't block the gameplay with your big head.
Played it when it launched. Maxed out on most of the stuff. Took a break and came back at the new desert map. Found out all my stuff were already obsolete. Got a couple new character weapon. And this time the power creep was even worse. Even the daily quest became a drag. Took another break but I was still watching news about ToF. One day decide to log on and realize yet again my gears and weapons had gone trash. And every new level I gain would make my game play slightly more miserable. I have spent a lot money in Genshin and I planned to swipe in ToF too but I didnt. This game just lacks the quality. The English dub is horrible and the lore/story is nonexistent. New characters have no depths but an erotic waifu cyber figurine. Its laughable bad. The only good thing about this game is combat but I just cant deal with the horrible optimization at the same time. They totally know that the power creep is ruining the game from day one and other problems are just no biggy. But did they actually done anything? nope. So I just dont have much hope in here. And revamp? good luck with that. They gonna cash out for the very last time on the remaining fans. Milk out every last drop and move on.
I’m hoping they don’t cash out but you are right about basically everything else, the game requires basically 50-100 hours to get into or get into again, it’s a major issue they need to fix because there is some good content but you need to drag through the old and bad content to get there and it sucks.
@@scarlet1112ToF's rate of power creep is in another universe sadly so it's pushing players away. Whales and players who love characters suddenly gets thrown aside when their favourite character becomes garbage and that's why they all left. And ToF doesn't build their character stories well like other games. Not giving them attention after they're released
For me, the absurd dps checks is what did it for me, I remember fighting this white monkey when Vera came out for about 20 minutes dodging like a psychopath with my a3 saki for it to KILL ME in a single hit... Only to get 1 achievement that gave 10 dark crystals, God damn man... Everything that's worth doing is just a absurdly hard dps check, tanks can't tank a single hit, and even if you can tank you can't deal damage which the game appreciates VERY much, and also defeats the purpose of tanks 🤦♂️ And for what you said, they obviously didn't fix that, they keep doing it, yeah, I won't be back any time soon 😅
That’s completely fair, I think they might fix some stuff with the revamp but that’s to be seen. I will say that white monkey was meant to be an optional mini-boss to do with other players, not really by yourself, that’s why it had so much hp. Even as a dolphin (at the time) who has really good damage and optimal team rotations I couldn’t do that solo.
@@TheStardustyNova my issue isn't that it was a damage sponge, that's okay-ish as long as you don't get 1-shot, what's the point of having tanks that _can't_ tank even an elite monster? I don't mean to tank World bosses with actual rewards (which should also be tank-able btw, that's the purpose of tanks) I mean elite monsters that give you _nothing_ other than an achievement with 10 crystals, like, bruh... It's like the game assumes you're always on a party of 4 at the very least to clear random things on the map... And even WITH a team of 4 you might not be able to even clear some devices... The dps checks were absolute insanity, and the damage dealt by the enemies was also insane, it's like we were missing 2-3 equipment pieces perpetually. 🤦♂️
I will say at that time we were missing equipment that hadn’t been released yet in global but tanks do need a buff imo, probably like 10-20% extra resistance and 50% extra taunt, tanks should feel like tanks. In a party of 4 there should be way more of a reason to have a tank, 2 dps and a healer but dps are more required usually, tanks do have a use in the newer raids and are basically required but I would appreciate a buff.
@@chaosinfernoid9008 mmo's don't require you to be at all times with a party, only for specific dungeons and bosses, not for random crap in the map that gives you practically nothing :/
powercreep is the problem imo, no one likes invest heavily financially and/or emotionally into char only for it get benched hard just few patches later. Weapons from 2.0 A6 cant even keep up to A0 from newest weapons in 3.0. not saying powercreep shouldn't happen, i get why it exist, but it used too much in ToF imo and it hurts the game alot. Now we got dual element weopons coming, so most likely singe elements weops heading into the trash all together most likely.
I think a 1-2% power creep would be fine but in ToF it’s like a 5-6% power creep, it’s too much, at least you can still use the characters with the simulacra system but I would like to be about to use Saki’s swords again, its my favorite weapon and I can’t even really use them since they’ve been so power creeped. They need to slow down the power creep, more people would enjoy the game that way.
It's a very good game, yeah it has lag but outside of that it's good. Oh yeah and I wish they put more clothes on the women and add more male characters
I agree that it’s a pretty good game but for the second part apart from the optional skins most of the characters except for maybe one or two aren’t wearing anything that is even close to skimpy, for most characters I’d they have more clothing it would be way more then most women wear irl, so, I’m a bit confused on what you mean by that. And for the male thing I agree they need more male characters but if they do, they need to make male character designs better because they’re currently mostly trash, I’m gay af but I haven’t been attracted to one male character in this game so going by that I’ld prefer they kept their 1:5 ratio until they figure out how to design good looking males.
@TheStardustKnight okay, I meant that most of the girl characters outfits show their underwear when moving or like it'll show their breasts bouncing when they run lol
Hm? I guess? If you position your camera correctly and stuff or dash and stop. But at the same time I never noticed these things until right now, you sorta have to look for it. Idk about the jiggle physics, they’re more tame then most games and again you sort of have to look for it. I don’t think the game really forces you to see anything apart from maybe one character because that’s how physics work, it’s very mild fan service that you have to look for it if anything. At least that’s how it is for the characters I have. (Which is like 70% of them). If you’re talking about the characters having fully designed underwear that you have to tilt your camera at a angle to see I agree that does exist but I don’t think the designers putting detail into the whole design is a bad thing, everyone wears underwear (at least 99% do), characters would have underwear too, that’s pretty normal, plus they fade out the character on 99% of angles you try to look at which is why it took me so long to respond, I was trying to look for evidence of what you’re saying. Overall though they’re just fictional characters, it really doesn’t matter, and the characters simply aren’t very overtly sexualized especially compared to 99% of gacha games, most characters are just wearing pretty tame outfits and you have to look away from the base camera angle to try and sexualize the character. But then again, I don’t even think it’s a bad thing for the anime characters to be sexual and hot, it’s fictional characters and there’s plenty of people in real life that like to be sexual and enjoy that, it’s not gross for someone to want to live that way or for someone to design a character they like. Of course it may be uncomfortable for some but I also believe people should be able to express themselves in any way they like.
@TheStardustKnight oh no my wife pointed that out to me lol she walked in on the loading screen and the character was stretched out in a bathing suit with a leg up
Oh, I didn’t know that, I don’t look at the loading screens ever XD makes sense in a gacha game I guess but yeah, also get what you mean in that regard, definitely fan service on the loading screens and skins.
They Need To Change The Pity System, People Say Save 120 Pulls and Than Pull on A Character, i am doing that from past 5 characters and i lost every 50/50, i does not feel good to waste 120 pulls every time, they have copied many things from genshin why not the pity system, and we need new characters to play otherwise game feels booring very fast
I wouldn’t say the Genshin pity system, because it’s actually way worse just seems better since you get the character in the pulls instead of buying it. Just make the 50/50 a 50/50, don’t get it the first time, you get it on the second time in addition to what they already have, that’s it, gacha fixed, and in fact better then Genshin’s.
@@TheStardustyNova Yes That's True, I Just Hope They Add Guarantee System, lIke If We Loose Once The Next One is guaranteed, Otherwise System is Decent
I’ve never said it but saying play Genshin isn’t mean… there’s a reason people say stuff and there’s a reason Genshin keeps players and TOF doesn’t that being said… you don’t have to pick just play both if you feel it’s worth it. What you do at 50 hours is what you do at a 1000 hours. Game is still bad but it’s a good bad game is the best way I can say it. And the combat is still great, with cons 🤫 lol
Oh, when I said that I was talking more so about a few people that were dming me and saying the games trash, play Genshin, you’re a piece of trash if you like this game, stop being a *slur* and play Genshin. This is more so what I was talking about, not people just simply putting down the game but actively choosing to download a game specifically to attack and harass people for playing the game, I’ve had this happen quite a few times, should’ve clarified what I meant more in the video, sorry ‘bout that. And yeah, the game is sort of like a guilty pleasure game, it’s not good but when it hits for some people it really hits.
Something I don't understand is why ppl tell others to leave a multiplayer game for a solo game. Like, they won't even see that you left for GI, as they will stay on there solo world lol
In that case, much respect for taking the time to explain what you meant though I wasn’t really calling you out, more like I was just saying what you said was wrong in a way but now that I understand your point it makes sense, I’m sure there’s people that do that in a lot of games. And your right. @@TheStardustyNova
@herbertcoxe3601 Don't worry, didn't think you were calling me out, just thought it would be good to clarify what I meant since I didn't explain what I meant in that case as well as I could of. Also, so if other people are a bit confused on what I meant they can go down to the comments and better understand what I meant. :)
One funny thing that in Subreddit they don't even say full Genshin name just G game it's pretty funny 🤣 . Sad part they so pessimistic, especially with months revenue list
bruh put ur avatar in a corner or something, not in the middle so we can see the gameplay
That dead game
It's not that deep tbh
The progression in this game really favours those who have been playing long. No matter how much new players whale the latest units, they would never realize its true potential due to bad gears. It's sad to see people drawn to it due to a unit being released but not the game itself.
Yeah, it is, it’s just a bit of a contradicting game design having gacha and mmo because mmo’s are more long term hardcore grind while gacha’s are usually whale and you’re powerful. Honestly I think they should focus on the mmo stuff more, still giving good waifus but I think the MMORPG systems need to be focused on.
I dont really think leveling is an issue, at least not if your trying to rush it (Armor upgrade is another story if you are trying to get specific stats). For example i dont get as much time as i had before so i get about 2 hours a day but still level decently. Level timeout or story timeout i got only if i stayed in 1 area or just did the astra story only. I do think they should do something about that.
I made this video on tower of fantasy mostly to generate discussion, so, if anyone has any thoughts on the game or comments on the things I said, please feel free to use the comment section to voice your opinions a bit. :)
And I don't know about other region but in SEA, this game is very, very, I mean very alive. World bosses always dead in every channel which is like 40+ channels, newbies asking advices etc, returnees asking to do JO or stuff, veterans making segs joke every minute in world chat, my crew honor point maxed out in three days, basically it's doing well in SEA.
Ooooo, that’s nice to know, I’m glad it’s doing well in SEA, my main concern is the slow downward trend but I’m really glad it’s doing well in SEA, NA is a little bit more slower? dead? but we have a lot of similar things happening on some days, it’s just a bit slower but I also remember that it is only 1 server now so that’s probably a massive contributor to the game seeming more alive. But yeah, really happy to hear it doing well in SEA 💙.
seggs(scrambled eggs) doko?
@OnamorSinned The no. 1 ToF topic XD
im so burn out of this game but cherimu really is keeping this game alive! nowadays i dont really play it i only watch her streams to keep up with the TOF stuffs and shes just so bubbly and cheerful towards her chat!!
Cherimu is the best, love her 😊
In terms of character design, it has been near excellent if not excellent since Lan (2.4), I love every single one of them, and currently Nan Yin is peak. Nan Yin looks like an authentic asian high born, this might be weird to say but Nan Yin is the first anime character that when I look at her I was like "now that's a real asian looking anime waifu" she looks genuinely asian, I love her.
True, the character design has been good since 3.0, they’ve been getting better and better but I feel they need some more iconic designs that are instantly recognizable, I feel that would being more people into the game but they are headed in the right direction. 👍
@@TheStardustyNovatrue. Character design isnt enough. They have to make characters that will actually leave a mark on a persons heart 😂 and would be unforgettable
I remember playing a lot when the game released, and when I got my dream team (frigg saki lin) I kinda just stopped playing lol. I always look back at the game and want to come back but Im just afraid of getting overwhelmed again. I dont have anything against the game, it was actually a really relaxing game to play in some of the most stressful times I've had so it;ll always have that special place in my heart, it just seems intimidating to get back into after missing so much content and changes
That’s fair, I think the game is better then ever but it’s changed a lot and might be a bit overwhelming. I would say take a look at some of the new characters and trailers and if you’re interested just give it a casual try again if you like 😊.
2000hrs so far, really like this game. from my POV this game has potential to be alive again as it was since more and more characters are joining standard in the future. The combat is amazing. Also, there are compensations which I really like, the more bugs they got, the more dc they give us. Dentge
It definitely does have the potential to thrive again and to do that I hope the devs take feedback and make the game amazing 😊.
I truly love this game I came from destiny and everything about this game is truly remarkable. It’s a crying shame more people are not playing it or have left. In the couple of months that I’ve been playing, I put up 500 hours so far.
Yeah, I also came from destiny and if I’m being honest this game is a lot better (destiny was the last game I spent 2000 hours on before this XD). ToF has a lot of good parts and I’ve enjoyed it since day 1, it truly is a shame that ToF is slowly going down, I think with the revamp they might be able to turn things around though if they make sure to ace it. I have a lot of hope for ToF, tbh, I hope to be playing in 10 years.
u should be happy people aren't into predatory games like tof...
@@rolf1819
While commenting on a Destiny Comment under a Gacha Game (which are indeed successful) is funny.
Grinding Games are shit. I said it.
I started the game bc of Nanyin. I just feel the characters need more originality, and they need to flesh them out more with story and lore.
I completely agree with this, characters like Nan Yin and Shirli/Nemesis are quite unique and recognizable but there’s a lack of good unique/recognizable designs and they need to work on it quite a bit.
Nan has tons of lore, her max friend she mails lore, her sides on map have tons of lore.
Ive been playing since launch, i know its issues but ive seen the improvements as well. I agree with all youve said.
I look forward to the revamp and more events in the future (cause i love the mini events to get rewards they actually seem to get those right now a days and make them fun.)
Ooooo the recent card fighter mini-game has been a blast and I look forward to the revamp too 😊.
@@TheStardustyNova ^-^
I can see every now and then people from 2 different sides of coins would complaint of these kinds of stuffs:
- Give time gated content to slowly build their progression (Nah, people complete all the contents so fast in 1 day that they need more)
- Give them rushed contents via rapid updates for new worlds and new simulcra (Nah, not enough time to save resources).
I don’t think time gating is needed in this type of game, they already have dailies, weeklies, events, regular updates, they don’t need to time exploration, quests and stuff like that.
Ha! I popped up in that world chat comment you made at the start. Day zero player with 2.5k hrs here with every banner skin. I try and be helpful in world chat and help with content, but can think of a hand full of improvements.
Should add more worthwhile rewards to Balanced JO's and overhaul JO's in general
Add a pet battle system similar to World of Warcraft's one
The racing physics and system overall needs a complete overhaul (Mirroria one)
A racing and breeding system similar to Choco racing from FFXIV
Earlier banners need a re-balance to bring them up a little
Private island SSR chip crafting needs to include newly added standard chips (Nemesis etc)
New world Mini bosses need loot tables updated to include Ttian mats and a chance of gold chest keys
Guild housing and decoration system similar to what FFXIV has
Vendor to allow you to trade older mats you don't need for new ones you do ie SR / SSR shard boxes
A reward system to incentivize running through older content to help new players (JO / World Bosses)
A whole new battle ground type system and associated gear system for PVP (similar to Wow BG's)
Entire MSQ (main story quest) system needs an overhaul to smooth out the experience
A new game engine that better supports large amounts of concurrent players
A re balance of the current gear system ie armour and things like Crit and crit damage stats etc
Fixing mounts so they feel more impactful, instead of getting stuck on pebbles
Epic quest chains for combat pets or even a method to upgrade and gear them up?
Fishing system needs better rewards like adding a rotation of fashion items and new chips ie Nemesis etc
Daily bounty system needs to be expanded to include all zones like artificial island also
World boss loot tables need a rework like adding to forced open chests like chance of titan mats
Cosmetic system needs an overhaul to add one or two more cosmetic slots like wings?
Yo, small world! 🤣 I think you make a lot of great suggestions here, I think for the engine though all they need to do is improve the net code which should be something they’re able to do separately. Also, I absolutely love the ideas for pets, these are all great ideas and would make the game way more fun. For the gear I think they just need to add 1-2 more interesting pieces of gear and add on more to the stim system so you get more improvements from playing the game a lot. For the cosmetic system I think they need to double the amount of hair and stuff you have, it’s too limited at the moment. I think wings wouldn’t work too well though since with the jet pack that would cause a lot of clipping and lag issues. Overall though I hope there’s a lot of updates to cosmetics, that’s very important, they already have one of the best anime character creators, if they make it better it’ll truly be something special, especially if they add a lot to the male character creator XD. I think for pvp they need to make it so you unlock everything in pvp and you fight with pvp-based gear, they also need more exciting game modes since they haven’t added anything for like a year. Also, epic quest chains are a must, especially hidden ones, that would hype the community up so much.
@@TheStardustyNova Just seeing a company acknowledge that things could be done better and are actively reaching out to the player base is a healthy and good sign for things ahead. Now it will come down to how that information is parsed and what can be implemented and when.
Recovering TOF addict reporting in, i used to no-life this game from week 1 for about 10 months, was one of the most active players i knew and surely clocked over 1000 hours but the official launcher wouldn't count them.
TL;DR: this game is an abusive relationship simulator, i do not recommend it unless you're an oiler looking to flex your wallet or the filthiest of casuals or have crazy amounts of self control. Tower of Fantasy does like draining your wallet (or, in my case, time, i was F2PBTW) and might be hard to drop because, while it's gigatrash in some aspects, it executes some others really well.
I'm assuming TheStardustKnight doesn't care about meta and damage whatsoever because i don't think even once he mentioned the huge power disparity between F2Ps and whales as well as the character power creep, which are the biggest problems of the game by far for me.
In G game, you can see people literally maining Ganyu or Hu Tao for 2-3 years straight, meanwhile in T game they don't even let you throw your pulls at outdated favourite waifu to advance her past A6 and keep up with the new characters. This is just awful for both faithful waifu enjoyers and people responsible for character design (since their work just gets thrown into the bin half a year later). But since most of their designs these days are just different flavours of big booba mommies, maybe it's not that big of a deal.
As for the power disparity, queueing into coop and getting outdamaged 2-4 times over by someone who isn't even trying is the worst feeling since you're not even playing the game at that point. TOF community is somehow mostly okay with it, gacha brain is truly built different.
Speaking of which, T gamers are some of the most casual gamers i've ever met (it was my first exposure to gacha though), not sure where the take about most remaining players being hardcore comes from. Nobody wants to try when they can just pay to win or get help from somebody who paid to win. Hardcore gameplay mostly happens when some big whales team up to go for Origin of War leaderboards or something. Ironically, it was way easier to find a proper team on a smol server before server transfers/merges happened, now it's only new players or whales left.
"As we all know Tower of Fantasy was dead only a few months after release" is an extremely normie take as well, it was declining but not dead. Wasn't dead 2 months ago when i left, just wasn't fun. You could still queue JOs or find whales, i mean, people to play with in world chat and stuff. From what i heard from gateoo back then, it's gonna be kept alive as an experiment type of project while Hotta is gonna concentrate on their new, non-MMO game. Employees are gonna be trained on TOF before getting shifted to working on that new game as well.
On a more positive note, i did meet very nice people thanks to T game, even though all of them quit. And i do like TheStardustKnight's tuber model.
Hey, thanks for your comment!
First thing, I play frost only since it suits my play style so I’m not really confronted by power creep but it is a major issue, replied to some other comments where I went into a bit more detail, mainly didn’t mention it since I only play frost I don’t care about meta basically at all, it was only extremely bad to the point where I noticed it with fenrir and fiona.
What I meant by hardcore is a lot of players, I would say most have over a few hundred hours making them pretty strong and up for some more mechanically harder content that is a bit of a fun challenge for most of the group not to be mindlessly pressing buttons on, I know from personal experience it’s getting boring mindlessly soloing every activity with nothing that I need to use my brain on. Origin of war is cool for whales and stronger players but it’s just a dps and buff check, not mechanically or actively interesting or thrilling like a WoW/Destiny style raid would be if they added it.
The third thing was meant to be a half joke but by that point a lot of peoples servers were dead and it had lost 99% of its players and already received a bad reputation which is why I made the joke, it’s a common joke that a lot of people make about the game and although it’s not dead yet, by 3 months it was already down the road of dying.
Also, thanks for the compliment on my vtuber model, I appreciate it 😊.
The first day of release on steam, I was hit with a bug that set my birthday to 12/31 with no way to reset it. My birthday was 9/19, but the 9 would've been set to 10% according to the chooser. I sent a ticket, but the e-mail they sent back didn't tell me that I needed to respond to actually keep the ticket alive. So I didn't bother playing at all after half an hour of game time.
I would probably enjoy this game if I was a whale but I simply cannot as a f2p/monthly pass due to the sheer difference of power, some people don't care about that yes but I do and it's really demotivating since the game essentially forces you to play with other people to complete stuff
I get that, I think that’s also the main drawing point as well though, the fact you need to play with other people is sorta part of the enjoyment at least for me and others, as someone really introverted and a bit of a shut-in I really enjoy having to play with others, that’s why I play it more often then a game like Genshin, I either have an extremely hard fight or play with others, it makes the game more fun for me. But I do get not wanting that, that’s why there’s games like Genshin, ToF just isn’t the game for you at the moment and that’s fine :). I will say also they might be adding a version with the exact changes you want in the near future though, I think you’ll love that, stay on the lookout. 😊
@@TheStardustyNova I do like playing with others it's just that if you are a f2p playing with a whale your damage is so miniscule that you might as well not do anything, that's the thing I dislike
Oh, I get what you mean now, yeah, that’s true, some players have such insane numbers that you feel like you’re doing nothing and it’s not that fun feeling like you’re powerless, I get that. I personally don’t care how I do, I guess I’ve just been desensitized to it but I get what you mean. It also doesn’t help that there’s such a high disparity between gear that one player can do 10x your damage depending on their gear. I would probably be a lot higher damage if I had decent luck but my luck is trash so I can’t do as much damage. I literally don’t have 1 100% perfect piece for the element I use after a full year.
I'm here before gateoo react to this on his stream xdd
Aaaaaa, I would scream if he reacted, it would be such an honor.
I tried play this game 3 times. First time it was on launch, I played up until I was blocked from progression for the third time and I just got bored of throwing myself into a wall, so I made a pause.
Second time was several weeks later, maybe month, when everything from first area was available and it was second update I think. For some reason game decided that I need a lot of boosts, and when I played it felt like I just got thrown from the point at which I stoped straight to current endgame. Which might be not really bad thing on itself, but I had no progression that you might got from farming all this weeks, and game just blocked me from easier content, I was able to go only in latest unlocked dungeons and bosses. In the end, everything was oneshoting me and I wasn't dealing any damage to enemies, so after about a week of playing basicaly dark souls mode, I droped game in hopes that it will be better next time.
Third time was this fall, after 3.0 and just before anniversary I think. Game deleted my old account so I had to play from the start, which honestly was a lot of fun. Up until one crutial point. I don't know why but after some specific tutorial mission game just said "yeah, all this content from first region, it's all already happened and now here you go, 2.0 area have fun". And again I just felt lost about what's happening, what am I supposed to do, how and where am I supposed to play. I wanted to enjoy game for what it can do, but I really love to imerse myself into worlds, get to know characters, game lore, stories that there is, have fun overcoming chalanges in terms of puzzles, difficulty in combat, and understanding of gameplay mechanics. But for some reason on every step towards game that I made, it felt like game was purposfully making everything in it's power to make me hate it or be dissapointed in what I got.
I believe that this game can be fun and enjoyable, and I wish I had this kind of expirience with it, but sometimes things just didn't work. I hope that devs learn from what they had done already, and I will be able to play and enjoy it.
simple . People who quit have no patience.
That’s a fair viewpoint but I feel that there were and are still issues that can be quite easily addressed and overall the game can be MUCH better.
i just ignore those genshin players, im a day 1 player from sea server, i just think genshin is not even any better XD they play a solo game and pretend that its an mmo and brag with their friends what they got XD atleast in tof theres more players to run around with.
Yeah, that’s completely true, I’m day 1 from NA and Genshin and ToF are completely different games, kinda wish the devs didn’t say they were gonna be the Genshin killer because the 2 games have completely almost opposite audiences.
@@TheStardustyNova yeah, just play and have fun. some players just think that they are high and mighty and their opinion is always the best, when in fact they are the problem not the game XD.
Genshin is better in terms of overall visual quality and animations but to be fair that's because Hoyoverse is just a bigger company with a bigger budget.
@@Itachiflameamaterasu Also a massive factor is ToF is a MMO where you can have 20 people on screen at once all using the same animations and stuff which is the main reason for worse graphics apart from Hoyo making 2.3+ billion dollars more a year
I remember playing this game and like it at first, it was new and refreshing, clearly it wasn't the same quality as other games, the story was god awful early on, i don't even know if it truly got better. I guess they realised how bad it was since the game almost FORCE YOU to skip so much of the story to the point you are trying to find Sherly to "oh i have to talk to her as a cyborg now" man if you really wanted to follow the story the game kinda dropped you hard lmao.
Another aspect i found to be sad. They never (at least not last time i checked) released new SR weapons. Only SSR. Meaning you would most likely max out the SR weapons in copy rly early on. But with all the SSR selectors and such, you had no reasons to use them at all. So once it was done, pulling had virtually no interest aside from getting the newest SSR weapons. Which i ended up growing tired of it. It also created the issues that if you couldn't keep up with new unit released, you'd just get left behind, at least that's how it felt to me. Kind of curious what will happen in their 2.0 tho
I started playing a lil over 2 months ago and I've been fairly enjoying my time. I do wish there were more male characters tho haha.
The combat is fun, the exploration is fun and rewarding and as someone who doesn't dump money into gacha, I've managed to get several SSR characters and two of them at A6 which is surprising considering I haven't even explored several areas since the game asks you to skip story.
I wish the menus and UI was cleaner, everything is so layered on each other it's confusing at times, but besides that I really like ToF.
agreed w everything, esp menus and husbando chars 😁
Some of the biggest reasons why I quit is that the game simply did not have a compelling enough story and lore, and the exploration experience was very poor. I could look past everything else because frankly, I didn't care, just like with how I play Genshin. I don't care for the gacha, I don't care for f2p vs p2p, I don't care about end-game and I don't care about combat/gameplay.
I love open world games, and I love them especially when the world is rich with meaningful points of interest. Comparing to some of my most favorite worlds such as Hyrule, Tamriel, The Lands Between and Teyvat, ToF's world didn't really seem meaningful or thoughtful. The early game's areas were boring, lifeless and mostly felt like a checkmark on the dev's bucket list. The enemies weren't interesting, the stories weren't interesting, the lore behind the world wasn't interesting, the characters weren't interesting. As for the playable characters, there was little to no incentive to get them besides their looks and gameplay, except for maybe Nemesis. Exploration felt unintuitive, as if the game was constantly fighting against you.
Granted my impressions of the game were based off the first 3 months since launch, but I think 3 months is already too much time for me to become invested in any game based on my required criteria. I am aware the game has improved a lot since then, and I might give it another try later on, but I have less and less time to actually play these days. For people who understand Genshin, as of 4.2 I haven't even touched Fontaine yet, and this is coming from the same person who used to 100% new areas within days if not hours back in 2.x
Damn, play Genshin 4.2, the story is amazing but for ToF I can’t say the same, it’s the exact opposite of what you’re looking for, it’s more focused on combat and fun gameplay with other players, the story is getting better but it’s more of an afterthought, I think the story might be good by 4.0 though with the direction they’re heading in, maybe.
Good video. I would have liked it more though, if you moved your avatar more to the left or right side of the screen. I haven't played the game and liked to see how the gameplay looks while you talk. I still enjoyed it.
Sorry ‘bout that, just don’t have time this month to edit stuff, normally would have gameplay and full editing but life happens 😅. Glad you still enjoyed it though 💙.
Good take overall, we can only look forward for better. The combat's pretty enjoyable tho.
Completely agree 💙
My take on Tower of Fantasy, a game I've been in since day 1 clocking in over 1000 hours. Around version 2.3, when the whispers of 3.0 started, I made the call to step back.The game's grind was real, and I threw myself into it, getting all the gear. But the RNG and power creep started grating on me, even with some hefty spending. Bagged the units and outfits, but the pay-to-win aspect was looming large.
What really got to me was the lack of responsiveness from the devs. The in-game systems seemed a bit off-kilter, and I wasn't alone in feeling the frustration. The player base was feeling the same way including some of my friends in my crew.
Now, the game's not bad. It has its moments, but it needs more of a significant revamp, I'm not in a rush to jump back in unless they pull off some serious upgrades.
Currently they’re working on revamping the game so hopefully it works out 😊👍
@@TheStardustyNova Frankly, the concept doesn't seem appealing on paper, and the multitude of flaws, especially the necessity for a new legacy server within just a year of the game's global launch, raises concerns. My optimism is at best cautious, but at worst, I'm leaning toward a pessimistic view of Hotta and their team.
There have been too many unfulfilled promises and persistent issues. The gameplay is enjoyable but not translating well into overall success. The game's financial performance, with only 600k in revenue last month, further compounds the worries. As someone who used to play, I sincerely hope that Hotta and the team take the time to genuinely listen to their player base and address the core issues for a more promising future.
@@maccavann8519 actually something that does come to mind: the past update as of now, 3.4, they did bring up the issue of some people being unable to do a version challenge, and provided a conditional compensation. some other compensations have popped up here and there but seeing as they even did a huge survey before the rehaul - at least for cn - there's still some hope that they do try their best to keep up w players
What I really really REALLY don't like about the game is you need 5 copies of a character to make them viable for endgame, it's absolute BS!!!
Depends on the character but, yeah, to deal ideal damage to compete against other players for rankings you need to almost whale, I will say A1 or A0 is usually fine these days but in an MMO context gacha becomes a lot more of an issue, it’s just the nature of how gacha works, it’s inherently P2W, at least the content is beatable as a F2P which I can’t say for a lot of gachas. I hope in the future though they possibly give more pulls since it is a game where you sorta need to pull a lot for 1/4 characters, would be nice if it was easier to get characters, doubt this will happen though since this is their business model and how they get money.
@@TheStardustyNova Honestly they could just release more skins and make the ascensions less predatory and I think they would make more money.
10,000% agree about the progression system😂 literally every word you said about it is exactly how i feel and I love the game otherwise...I started playing w/ ps launch and have like 10,000 hrs over some yrs into MMO's and the gear advancement system is really my major problem w/ the game...it doesn't feel like you just have to hit the lottery to get a good piece of gear, it feels like you have to hit the Powerball...its a lil too much rng involved and can definitely be a huge turn off....I finally realized that pc players having such insane stats is mainly due to them having to have advanced 1000's of pieces of gear since the game been out and thats just insane imo
Yeah, I've been playing launch on PC and basically rolling 5-10 pieces a day and I still don't gear perfect. Also, glad this video resonated with you, I tried my best to speak about some of the genuine issues and good parts about the game :)
For New players.. it’s Good game…Even Great Game if you don’t have tons of options.
I am casual cuz I’m a busy guy. I stopped Genshin cuz too much grind e space for my tablet.TOF is Perfect for me to pass the time it’s smooth it’s large it’s colorful, good presentation good movement good combat. I’m not into grinding yet I can progress smoothly no complaints I don’t care about numbers I literally just have a good time.
For this type of mindset I Highly Recommend
Ooooo nice to hear, glad you’re having a good time. 👍
The one thing that made me go casual is the energy collecting in domain 9, when it 1st came out i was like ok this kinda sux but ill cope & 100%, then the update came out & now the energy is spammed all over the place, looking at all the crap on the mini map is overwhelming to me, some of my crewmates like it, “gives them something to do” for me tho if i try to collect them i normally log out after 10 mins of farming them cause i get burnt out, now i just log in, do some raids, oow, & v.a, than hang around chatting with my mates, i dont do dailies or main quest anymore.
honestly i felt this except with the overhaul of some of the systems in d9, esp. tianhe pavilion and the hendeca frostbite system. you would think that with such systems it would warrant at least a few lines of dialog in the main story missions, but no, all that actually shows one around is either a tooltip or a meager quest
started playing this game with 3 more friends and enjoyed it a lot , they all left 1 week later and i ended up alone and played for about 3 months ,
it got realy boring playing alone so that was mostly what made me quit ,
getting back to the game will be difficult since everybody is geared and i have nothing compared to them , so i wont even be able to run anything new
I’m still playing
17 hours in as a new player who only plays this game when I'm out of resin in Genshin, pretty aight.
Exploration movement is hella nice, best one so far.
The ui for new players is kind of overwhelming, too much currencies exploding in my face. Combat is pretty nice.
Audio needs more bass, it's kind of like hitting something with a stick. Look at mgr:reveangence, now that's a katana sound.
side note: is there any setting that I can tick to turn off the blacks on the screen during cutscenes? kinda cringe to have that lol
Nice to hear your opinion and glad you’re having fun. Yeah the UI definitely needs basically an overhaul, half of the things in the game people probably don’t know exist like the minigames. I will say the newer characters have better audio design and feel better but audio design overall need major improvements. For the question I’m not exactly what you’re talking about, might be a glitch? Not sure, I can probably help you in my discord if you like 👍
I hope it doesn't get shut down or at least goes single player... But alas it won't happen with regards to single player.
My main issue is with story cutsean animation and lipsynce, Your character's height resetting when in cutseans. Combat is fine and powercreep isnt an issue to me at least cuz i mostly do world explore and team based things, but i agree that older characters should be buffed a little. More daily and weekly stuff that give dark crystals, red n yellow balls. Repeatable rewards in world or have more stuff there that give dark crystals or red and yellow balls. Last is the lag for new bosses tho i think that will be the hardest to fix.
Yeah, the net code and story cutscenes really need a lot of improvement.
@@TheStardustyNova it isnt really net code thats doing it i think it was mentioned that it was an engine issue.
Oh really? I didn't see that, whelp hope they improve the engine then.
I just think we need more imitative Gachas or JRPG's, the field should grow out more so then the devs know what works and what doesn't. They just kinda flubbed on too many aspects, the landscape design, the animations, the story etc, but if other great examples existed by now maybe they wouldn't had made so many underwhelming choices. Also I personally think 3 characters on field at once isn't enough, I worry ZZZ is making this same mistake too - especially when you don't have reactions.
I think ToF is growing and getting better and probably one of the stepping stones to what will eventually be a great game that releases in the future. To your 3 character point tho, I think it’s fine at least in modern ToF, gameplay is so fast and fluid with so much built into every kit that I don’t think 4 characters are needed, honestly, I look forward to a similar game where just playing 1 character feels really good like it does in Nier. Fleshed out abilities enough to make 100’s or 1000’s of hours of gameplay feel good for every single character, I hope that happens one day.
Good thing you never experienced anything bad about the community. Maybe it's a server thing? I was called a schizo and there's so much pedos for Ruby and Mimi in the world chat.
Also I'm a tank main and honestly they need to change the gameplay that really needs it, otherwise just remove it entirely.
I play on PC on NA and generally people are pretty nice there, just memes and fun but there may be some not so nice people I haven’t ran into. About the Loli thing, I know some people joke but I don’t think I’ve ran into anyone genuinely that degen, if you have just block/mute them, they weird af. There’s always weirdos in communities you just need to block and ignore them 💙.
Yea I immediately noticed the sus behavior during the first few days when the game released on PS. I'm glad op hasn't run into them but that doesn't negate that their are alot of edgelords/racists and weirdos spamming the chats
@jojolyneee sorry to hear that, guess PS players must be more toxic (the CoD players are migrating now they’re getting banned for toxicity lmao) I really wish ToF got some mods to monitor chat.
You didn't mention anything about powercreep?
Kinda forgot about it since it’s not as prevalent with how I play the game (for context I just play frost and don’t really pull anything else so if when there is power creep I don’t really notice it since I already got the new character, the time it was over the top noticeable was fenrir and Fiona but it’s been awhile since that) definitely is an issue just forgot about it while I was recording this video unscripted, will mention it if I make a more in depth fully scripted version of this video in the future. 👍
Issues are spounges enemies. some enemies ignores impact. Gacha system is horrible as always. No block or parry mechanics for tank. Devs should implement simple text to speech generator if they are unable to get proper voice acting
Pretty sure the voice acting was a glitch but it sucked. Parry and block mechanics were a thing for Saki sort of but I think they need more of that, maybe a relic? Just a simple guaranteed 50/50 would majorly improve the gacha and for the sponge thing, I don’t really know, I have really high dps so I don’t really see those issues but could be the case and would be cool to see improvements. Oh, this actually made me remember, the most recent boss fight Nan Yin and story bosses as a whole recently have had really cool mechanics and parries and dodge timings, those bosses have actually been sick and might be what you’re looking for, I hope they add those in like a 1v1 or raid weekly boss fight. What would be really cool is having all of those bosses and a some mechanic stages as a dungeon raid like in Destiny. Anyway, yeah, a lot of good points, thanks for the comment :)
I love it
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nice video 💯
Thank you 💙
They promised CBT rewards, no CBT rewards still...
??? I’m not sure but from my research you may be confused, the only post and things I found pertaining to what you said was they were talking about the extra rewards you get for and during the CBT as in you get extra pulls then you would in the fully released game, not that you would get rewards when the full game releases for participating in the CBT. There was also a ton of stuff you got on launch so it may have been one of those if that’s what you’re talking about but I can’t find anything about them promising CBT rewards in the way you’re talking about?
ToF in the beginning was so-so. Lots of bugs and most of the cutcenes in the history were bad but,most of the characters design were good and already had a good map with a lot of little stuff to do. It has improved a lot since 2.0. I think the best part is the open world and the story. Its fun to play in group but all the mmo farm/grind stuff gets boring after some time. Yes,they should invest more in the marketing here in the east. I like the game a lot. 😊
Glad you’re enjoying the game 😊. And yeah, It’s improved a lot, every single update makes it better, I look forward to ToF getting better and better.
Kinds of feels like you're reading from a script, given the intonation of your voice in this vid
That’s kinda funny that this is one of the only videos on my channel where I didn’t script it at all, not even ideas wise. I think it sounds that way because I cut out parts where I rambled and a lot of the pauses just so the video didn’t drag.
i quit before i could even start lmao i have played many mobile games and this game always crashed on me.
Yeah, heard that a lot, it sucks. Also, summoned skull, noice, love yugioh 😊
As someone who does have about 750 Hours In TOF Overall. I have Enjoyed Playing the game getting Units I wanted, I do still play TOF occasionally but my Interest in the Game is Dropping each month that Passes by ever since the second Half of 2023, (I started The Game in January of 2023) and I have Picked up Playing HSR which I legit like Better ever since Early June. I'll probably Play the Game here and there and wait and see what the Revamps Hotta will Try to do to Revitalize the Game but Unless Something Interests me in this Game again for more then a BIt, Imma Just play it Less and Play HSR More
Yeah, I get that, just found a game that’s more fun for you and you’ve been playing that. I play HSR as well, there’s just not enough to do for me so I have it as a side game XD.
You want exploration to be boring or instant gratitude?
Edited to change to or
I want exploration to have more rewards because currently you get like 10-20 red pulls for completely exploring a new area and it’s spread over weeks of grinding that you can’t just go and do, you need to wait for multiple weekly resets and are time gated from just being able to explore and play however you like. The exploration would be way more fun if you could just explore with a point where everything is explored and you don’t have to wait until weekly resets just to do the exact same thing for basically no reason other then padding and time gating. Basically I want to be able to choose how I explore sort of like in Innars instead of being time gated and repetitive exploration. Also, having more rewards in chests and stuff in the new areas would be nice since they took away all the mini-rewards in domain 9.
@@TheStardustyNova Oh ok, btw meant to put or.
Oh, thanks, was a bit confused on that part XD
i liked how you described it thou yes give us something,, we been playing hard core 😅
XD yup, anyone who’s still playing needs a unique challenge
Maybe if that c-nt MMObyte/stix or whatever didnt doom on it 24/7 and trigger the algorithm on every TOF search.
1 content creator doesn't doom a game, he only covers stuff from his perspective and has made quite a lot of positive videos as well. If anything is to blame it's the fact ToF didn't attract many CC's to make positive content on the game (this is my opinion on the CC situation months after this video).
@TheStardustyNova what positive videos? I have time right now. It's like 2 out of 40 of them. He's the biggest name talking about it, which screws up the algorithm, screwing up people who haven't played past 1.0
Honestly, I think more people just need to make content on the game, I mean, I got 10k on this video just by talking about the game and was one of the search results over stix for a bit there. If we get more interesting content creators I think it would be alright. 👍 Give it a try yourself if you like 😊 I would love for the perception of the game to change, would make it so I can make more positive videos on a game I still like to play quite a bit.
came here to listen to discussion whilst watching clips of ToF gameplay footage. Gets a blue haired anime character's face in my face throughout the 16 minutes...
Bro, why bother putting the gameplay footage behind you if you're going to block/obscure it? If you're making remarks, discussions points, why not show us clips of said points to back up your thoughts and comments?
Because I wanted to make the video this way XD this has no script and near to no editing and that’s what I felt like doing for this video, simple as that. If you want a higher effort video there’s past videos and future ones but this one I just felt like talking and discussing a topic, that’s it.
Are you going to try Blue Protocol?
It's MMO and anime style game
I will be, doesn’t look too promising with how it went on JP launch but I’ll put a good 100 hours into it then probably make a video on it
One thing I disagree about is the exploration. It literally sucks. It's hard to get to certain places even with the gadgets and alot of the times there's no indicator on where to go. It's one of the big things that makes me wanna play the game less. There are also too many things to collect in open world which makes 100% the map very hard and tedious. Also the UI sucks so bad on PS5 its annoying. They have alot of approving to do on this game
I find the exploration movement great personally, if you have all the relics getting around is easy especially if you have ling han. Since your on PS it makes a bit more sense the movement isn’t as great as you probably don’t have everything maxed out yet. But, yeah, I agree on the too many things, vera and aesperia were alright but domain 9 with the energy balls and barely any rewards is just ridiculous. And yeah, UI needs a complete overhaul.
VIDEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOO time, yes
Hope you enjoy
I would wonder what I’m at tbh, definitely not f2p probably spent like almost 1k on it so I play it quite a bit
I’m probably at 2000 hours tbh, just put 1000 since that’s what I have on steam XD. But yeah, also spent quite a bit, I’m invested XD.
@@TheStardustyNova yeah although I’m invested, once Yan miao comes out I’m done pulling for characters for a while cuz I’ll finally have all my teams complete haha and I’ve come too far to just stop playing outright lmao. Also is the steam version better than the pc client? Idk if it’s better performance wise or not
@@currentlyvibing9916 About equal, might be worse, not sure, haven't tested. And yeah, that's fair, I just prioritize 1 team being frost since it seems to always be my playstyle, I just recommend prioritizing one team with f2p DC after yan miao.
day 1 player still playing alot of houra daily even there nothing to do all map 100% execpt new one bcoz the other place is locked need to finish the donation and i already expect alot of bug going on since bug in mmo is common since old days but the other bug is quite funny and really fun to use with ur friend my only real issue with the game is when there not much player playing they lower channel line ofcourse the server gonna lag when alot suddenly come online to comeback check the game or for certian event i just wish they put all map channel to 99 to lessen the lag go to less populated channel and explore for other alot quit bcoz they cant keep up with grinding since bygone ranking is quite important in early game thats where u get alot of module for gears and map exploration as f2p u want to grind all map since alot of important resource only u can get alot lile DC red nuc mira and veron coin is by exploring people dont have time for it. i also recommene for new player focus on getting ATK and 2 Element ATK on gear then u lock the 4th stats so all stats go to those three bcoz when u titan gear them down the line u will have all coverage on. 4 element so once u buiod other elememt u dont have to worrg abouy gears and new playet focus exploring importan to grab in Asperia and Artificial Island is supply pod and dont worry about domain 9 energy system focus choicing in key box the old pass key to open chest in Vera region fot gachapon matrix u will easily get good matrix u can use till end game so whete u want to focua on exploring probably Vera region where u can get good matrix and gears alot of gold dust to spend to buy geatsrs
A lot of the new update seems to be a bit buggy tbh and ye, they need to fix the channel system and stuff.
If people keep leaving the game, thrown money at ads wouldn't make more money, cause the money new players bring in would most likely be pay for those ads.
And if people who would play a game because of watched a ads then they may as well check online to see how is the game going, and after seeing it is not that active, they may not even playing it, so high chance of waste ads money.
The problem I’m presenting with the ads is that they have already done a lot of improvements and the game has slowed down quite a bit on losing players (it’s more just gonna be a slower death now but is coming) but even though most people do say the games improved and the new stuff coming out would keep quite a fair few people playing they’re not advertising it very much. Even if they just sustained the money they spent on advertisement it would not only make the game feel more alive with new players coming in, it would also present better with higher player counts which would give the game a better reputation. Of course this isn’t the solution, as I showed near the end of the video they are planning some sort of revamp which is the real solution (revamping and continuing to add better content) but the advertising would work nicely as a way to build up to the revamp. Of course they don’t need to advertise and I prefer they focus on making the game better but it is highly concerning that they don’t even try to push the game as almost every single other gacha does. They haven’t even done 1 collab on global which most gacha’s do by this point. It feels like they have given up but I did record that before the announcement of a revamp so if they’re doing a revamp to make the game a lot better that makes a lot more sense and I look forward to the future.
If they really did the revamp then may be pushing ads at that time would really help.@@TheStardustyNova
i think true tof need remake building from scratch again make new game learn from their mistake no bug, polished, no clunky, better story, stop powercreep, learn from genshin from character design genshin player spend money for simp not for damage like tof
I disagree on a complete remake, first off most of the players that left won’t come back, they blew that chance and second most of the current player base would leave if they took away their 10k accounts and stuff, that’s not fun or good. What I think is a good idea along those lines is basically to do a new game+ sorta thing, you keep all your gacha stuff, cosmetics, items, relics, etc. but they do a story line that takes us back to the start of the game and continues with a revamped/rebooted version of ToF while still retaining your stuff accept it’s now better balanced on the weapon side and the game overall looks better with a better storyline and game design. Also, the main thing that would be taken away is your gear and levels basically resetting everyone back to day 1 but with the OGs still having their weapons and stuff. I also think at this time they could combine PS servers with the rest.
i still hope they slow down the pace like holy s its fast
Currently? It’s like once a month they release a bit of content and they do 1 banner per month, I feel that’s slow compared to everything else I play. Back in 2.0 it felt overly fast but I feel like it’s alright now.
do we have any upcoming mmo anime rpg gacha? I'll get hyped again as I did for ToF:>
Blue protocol is the only one I remember but that had a trash launch in Japan or whatever if I remember correctly.
The problem is only releasing in Japan. China and Global are the major players for open world gacha games.@@TheStardustyNova
@@siamshikdar Japan is probably one of if not the biggest though, if they don't like it global and china probably won't either, they're basically doing a full rework currently since it was received so badly over there which is why it's been delayed so long.
Japan gacha scene is trash, tell me any recent good gacha games came from japan. Literally riddled with cash grab attempts. China is the currrent leading in gacha games industry. FGO is a mess with qol and the only thing it's still alive is Fate IP. Pincrone global killled by cruncy and Uma Musume global is in the ditch. If jp devs are satisfied with having "yes man" from jp only, then let them be it. Also jp people still investing in FGO is the biggest reason every jp games will fail on both global and China. As much as I want to be an "JP apologist" for liking their anime, sadly the jp people are clueless and greedy to maximum.@@TheStardustyNova
@@siamshikdar Memento Mori, Fire Emblem: Heroes, Street Fighter: Duel, hatsune miku games etc. There's plenty that comes from japan it's just not what you're looking for probably, when it comes to anime-like mmo's, they have the best, FF14, when it comes to RPG's in general, they probably made the best, Elden ring, japan makes a lot of good stuff, they just don't prioritize making gachas like china does. Japanese people have plenty good taste in games, they practically invented most of modern gaming. I think there will be a good anime mmo eventually but ToF wasn't it and blue protocol is to be seen on if they're able to fix the game before it launches to global since the global audience hated the game just as much as JP did when they released the game and a lot of global players got their hands on it. Just give it time, there'll probably be the game you're looking for in the future but that probably won't be for another few years at the minimum, and hell, it may be ToF after they do a complete revamp, who knows.
i try this game just because Ling Han she really beautiful not much game that will deliver Asian Character look good like this and i really like this game now sure this game need to be improve but at least it fun to play that all i need for the game haha
Completely agree and yeah, she’s beautiful and so fun to play 😊
I don't know Tower of Fantasy and I don't have time to play it even if I could, but I wish it the utmost sucess, just so it can threaten Genshin Impact and force Hoyo to improve their game, which I play and intend to keep on playing at least until I see the conclusion to the amazing story.
PS: this video would be much better if you didn't block the gameplay with your big head.
Played it when it launched. Maxed out on most of the stuff. Took a break and came back at the new desert map. Found out all my stuff were already obsolete. Got a couple new character weapon. And this time the power creep was even worse. Even the daily quest became a drag. Took another break but I was still watching news about ToF. One day decide to log on and realize yet again my gears and weapons had gone trash. And every new level I gain would make my game play slightly more miserable.
I have spent a lot money in Genshin and I planned to swipe in ToF too but I didnt. This game just lacks the quality. The English dub is horrible and the lore/story is nonexistent. New characters have no depths but an erotic waifu cyber figurine. Its laughable bad.
The only good thing about this game is combat but I just cant deal with the horrible optimization at the same time. They totally know that the power creep is ruining the game from day one and other problems are just no biggy. But did they actually done anything? nope. So I just dont have much hope in here. And revamp? good luck with that. They gonna cash out for the very last time on the remaining fans. Milk out every last drop and move on.
I’m hoping they don’t cash out but you are right about basically everything else, the game requires basically 50-100 hours to get into or get into again, it’s a major issue they need to fix because there is some good content but you need to drag through the old and bad content to get there and it sucks.
Name us one MMORPG games that doesn't have power creep, go on.
@scarlet1112 Lmao that’s true
@@scarlet1112 Guild war 2. you wonna talk about it?
@@scarlet1112ToF's rate of power creep is in another universe sadly so it's pushing players away.
Whales and players who love characters suddenly gets thrown aside when their favourite character becomes garbage and that's why they all left.
And ToF doesn't build their character stories well like other games. Not giving them attention after they're released
For me, the absurd dps checks is what did it for me, I remember fighting this white monkey when Vera came out for about 20 minutes dodging like a psychopath with my a3 saki for it to KILL ME in a single hit... Only to get 1 achievement that gave 10 dark crystals, God damn man... Everything that's worth doing is just a absurdly hard dps check, tanks can't tank a single hit, and even if you can tank you can't deal damage which the game appreciates VERY much, and also defeats the purpose of tanks 🤦♂️
And for what you said, they obviously didn't fix that, they keep doing it, yeah, I won't be back any time soon 😅
That’s completely fair, I think they might fix some stuff with the revamp but that’s to be seen. I will say that white monkey was meant to be an optional mini-boss to do with other players, not really by yourself, that’s why it had so much hp. Even as a dolphin (at the time) who has really good damage and optimal team rotations I couldn’t do that solo.
@@TheStardustyNova my issue isn't that it was a damage sponge, that's okay-ish as long as you don't get 1-shot, what's the point of having tanks that _can't_ tank even an elite monster? I don't mean to tank World bosses with actual rewards (which should also be tank-able btw, that's the purpose of tanks) I mean elite monsters that give you _nothing_ other than an achievement with 10 crystals, like, bruh...
It's like the game assumes you're always on a party of 4 at the very least to clear random things on the map... And even WITH a team of 4 you might not be able to even clear some devices... The dps checks were absolute insanity, and the damage dealt by the enemies was also insane, it's like we were missing 2-3 equipment pieces perpetually. 🤦♂️
I will say at that time we were missing equipment that hadn’t been released yet in global but tanks do need a buff imo, probably like 10-20% extra resistance and 50% extra taunt, tanks should feel like tanks. In a party of 4 there should be way more of a reason to have a tank, 2 dps and a healer but dps are more required usually, tanks do have a use in the newer raids and are basically required but I would appreciate a buff.
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I also quti back then cauz of that but tbf it is a Mmo so it is supposed to be played with your clan or whatever yea. 🤣
@@chaosinfernoid9008 mmo's don't require you to be at all times with a party, only for specific dungeons and bosses, not for random crap in the map that gives you practically nothing :/
Ahhh it had the potential buuuut there is alot of mistakes that the dev did one of them was No crossplay or save
Completely agree on that one XD I wanna play with the PlayStation bros
@@TheStardustyNova i started playing on PS5 SEA server it's a ghost town i can't even match for the events
That sucks, someone said SEA server is really popular on pc/mobile
powercreep is the problem imo, no one likes invest heavily financially and/or emotionally into char only for it get benched hard just few patches later. Weapons from 2.0 A6 cant even keep up to A0 from newest weapons in 3.0. not saying powercreep shouldn't happen, i get why it exist, but it used too much in ToF imo and it hurts the game alot. Now we got dual element weopons coming, so most likely singe elements weops heading into the trash all together most likely.
I think a 1-2% power creep would be fine but in ToF it’s like a 5-6% power creep, it’s too much, at least you can still use the characters with the simulacra system but I would like to be about to use Saki’s swords again, its my favorite weapon and I can’t even really use them since they’ve been so power creeped. They need to slow down the power creep, more people would enjoy the game that way.
Saki is one of the better weapons in balanced JO. Thats a nice little way of making old weapons relevant again
Ooooo, that's cool, nice to know, thanks!
I stopped playing , they never fixed ipad crashes.
No idea how they haven’t fixed that yet, that’s terrible.
It's a very good game, yeah it has lag but outside of that it's good. Oh yeah and I wish they put more clothes on the women and add more male characters
I agree that it’s a pretty good game but for the second part apart from the optional skins most of the characters except for maybe one or two aren’t wearing anything that is even close to skimpy, for most characters I’d they have more clothing it would be way more then most women wear irl, so, I’m a bit confused on what you mean by that. And for the male thing I agree they need more male characters but if they do, they need to make male character designs better because they’re currently mostly trash, I’m gay af but I haven’t been attracted to one male character in this game so going by that I’ld prefer they kept their 1:5 ratio until they figure out how to design good looking males.
@TheStardustKnight okay, I meant that most of the girl characters outfits show their underwear when moving or like it'll show their breasts bouncing when they run lol
Hm? I guess? If you position your camera correctly and stuff or dash and stop. But at the same time I never noticed these things until right now, you sorta have to look for it. Idk about the jiggle physics, they’re more tame then most games and again you sort of have to look for it. I don’t think the game really forces you to see anything apart from maybe one character because that’s how physics work, it’s very mild fan service that you have to look for it if anything. At least that’s how it is for the characters I have. (Which is like 70% of them). If you’re talking about the characters having fully designed underwear that you have to tilt your camera at a angle to see I agree that does exist but I don’t think the designers putting detail into the whole design is a bad thing, everyone wears underwear (at least 99% do), characters would have underwear too, that’s pretty normal, plus they fade out the character on 99% of angles you try to look at which is why it took me so long to respond, I was trying to look for evidence of what you’re saying. Overall though they’re just fictional characters, it really doesn’t matter, and the characters simply aren’t very overtly sexualized especially compared to 99% of gacha games, most characters are just wearing pretty tame outfits and you have to look away from the base camera angle to try and sexualize the character. But then again, I don’t even think it’s a bad thing for the anime characters to be sexual and hot, it’s fictional characters and there’s plenty of people in real life that like to be sexual and enjoy that, it’s not gross for someone to want to live that way or for someone to design a character they like. Of course it may be uncomfortable for some but I also believe people should be able to express themselves in any way they like.
@TheStardustKnight oh no my wife pointed that out to me lol she walked in on the loading screen and the character was stretched out in a bathing suit with a leg up
Oh, I didn’t know that, I don’t look at the loading screens ever XD makes sense in a gacha game I guess but yeah, also get what you mean in that regard, definitely fan service on the loading screens and skins.
nte will save tof
They Need To Change The Pity System, People Say Save 120 Pulls and Than Pull on A Character, i am doing that from past 5 characters and i lost every 50/50, i does not feel good to waste 120 pulls every time, they have copied many things from genshin why not the pity system, and we need new characters to play otherwise game feels booring very fast
I wouldn’t say the Genshin pity system, because it’s actually way worse just seems better since you get the character in the pulls instead of buying it. Just make the 50/50 a 50/50, don’t get it the first time, you get it on the second time in addition to what they already have, that’s it, gacha fixed, and in fact better then Genshin’s.
@@TheStardustyNova Yes That's True, I Just Hope They Add Guarantee System, lIke If We Loose Once The Next One is guaranteed, Otherwise System is Decent
Yeah, same, fingers crossed for the future
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the bots in chat omg.. they even let u block 100 users now, my blacklist halfway full of bots
Oh yeah, that’s a massive problem, they need a GM or 2 on at all times, like they REALLY need GMs
Tower of Fantasy = Blue Protocol(of delayed)
Kinda sad that blue protocol looks potentially worse at the moment if they don’t manage to fix it XD
Played it on day 1 and uninstalled on day 3 or 4.
Fair XD game had and has a lot of issues
I’ve never said it but saying play Genshin isn’t mean… there’s a reason people say stuff and there’s a reason Genshin keeps players and TOF doesn’t that being said… you don’t have to pick just play both if you feel it’s worth it.
What you do at 50 hours is what you do at a 1000 hours. Game is still bad but it’s a good bad game is the best way I can say it. And the combat is still great, with cons 🤫 lol
Oh, when I said that I was talking more so about a few people that were dming me and saying the games trash, play Genshin, you’re a piece of trash if you like this game, stop being a *slur* and play Genshin. This is more so what I was talking about, not people just simply putting down the game but actively choosing to download a game specifically to attack and harass people for playing the game, I’ve had this happen quite a few times, should’ve clarified what I meant more in the video, sorry ‘bout that. And yeah, the game is sort of like a guilty pleasure game, it’s not good but when it hits for some people it really hits.
Something I don't understand is why ppl tell others to leave a multiplayer game for a solo game. Like, they won't even see that you left for GI, as they will stay on there solo world lol
In that case, much respect for taking the time to explain what you meant though I wasn’t really calling you out, more like I was just saying what you said was wrong in a way but now that I understand your point it makes sense, I’m sure there’s people that do that in a lot of games. And your right.
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@herbertcoxe3601 Don't worry, didn't think you were calling me out, just thought it would be good to clarify what I meant since I didn't explain what I meant in that case as well as I could of. Also, so if other people are a bit confused on what I meant they can go down to the comments and better understand what I meant. :)
@davidvoegtling9275 it's kinda stupid but there's always people who feel the need to say their game is better for some reason XD
Hey my name is LMNTAL if you see me out say hi ❤❤
Will do!
TOF>Gen
True and real XD I think the games are just for different types of people tho
@@TheStardustyNova right that makes sense gen was too slow for me
One funny thing that in Subreddit they don't even say full Genshin name just G game it's pretty funny 🤣 .
Sad part they so pessimistic, especially with months revenue list
Tower of Flop
Lmao
That dead game hahaha over hype game dead hype to hahshshs
Hahahaha