It was wild when you showed up in the studio and hit Pleasant Kenobi over the head with a shovel (as you can tell from our horrified expressions) but at least it was a necessary evil into making this wonderful thumbnail 😅
To anyone asking about automated masking: Scryfall provides both images and the frame used on the card. However, card scans (especially older ones) aren't always centered the same way - and even an offset by a few pixels looks very weird on video. I tried, but ultimately couldn't get a fully automated version to work. (That being said I'm not a software developer)
@jaminkauf6242 Thank you for the insight on that one, Jamin! Perhaps some day someone can develop one that only can pull from anything 8th edition or after, and then thar developer can just manually insert old cards into the program for future use, sense we don't have to worry about new old boarder cards coming out. But with me also, I am also not a software developer 🤷♂️ haha. Thanks for checking out the video!
@@paperpauperplayer I do have some software development skills :) My thinking is if you want to automate it, you just make blank frames, and write code to insert names and mana costs using the right fonts/images. Now they won't all literally look like the actual card, since you're picking a frame and putting every card name/cost into it, but the consistency might be an upside, and not doing the manual work probably would be too haha. It's basically a simplified version of those online magic card generators, not too hard to write.
That's such a great insight into how much effort it actually takes to produce these silly videos about a card game. It's also great that you've reached out to them to ask about revealing their 'trade secrets'. They also seem like really cool dudes and I hope some day you get to a point where you get to collaborate with them on paper pauper content.
@Dimitar_Tsanev I can't stress enough just how much time editing anything takes. Trust me. I'd put out a video a week if I could haha Oh, they are SO nice! I would LOVE to go to Europe to crush them with UW CawGates 😍
@@paperpauperplayer I met Carl and Thoralf in person at Paupergeddon and they are just as in the videos, super fun, passionate and chill guys. They are the best.
you can make this a hell of a lot easier just by making a small program that automatically downloads and crops all the images on Scryfall based on a deck list. No need for all that manual labor of editing. The next step would be to make the editing process of that automatic so you can just have a widget you put in and update the text of their hand and it updates, but that's a editing software specific thing and I don't know as much about.
@ybabts I mean. Once you get the gist of it down, it's not hours of labor. I don't know how to code, so if you can make a program that does it, that'd be phenomenal! Carl messaged me and told me he actually uses a masking process so it's just automatically cropped out. He just inserts the card image into the mask and it's done. So my way was definitely a work around but hey, to each their own! Who ever couldn't do it before can now at least do it, even if it's a bit of the long way!
Obviously you can do it later, sorting out hands and what was played, but cardmarket also 'pauses' gameplay every draw or turn to take photos of the hand and write down stuff to talk about in the 'interview' portions. At least that's what I remember from their bts video (which everyone should go watch). It really helps us, the viewer, know what's going on in their heads and hands at the time, and I assume helps editing to know the play by play without going through the footage over and over.
Oh absolutely. There's actually a comment from card market on this video saying that they only do the write down for the first hand and just hold the hands out for the camera. That's all easier said than done when you have an actual production team and whatnot. They truly do revolutionize Magic content!
New Subscriber here! Loving the content and style you bring to your videos. I recently got back into Magic and Pauper has been my main thang! But alas I only play with my fiance since no one else really plays it at my LGS. Hope to see you upload again soon!
@PhantomChurros thank you so much! Glad you enjoy the content 😊 I am not dead, I promise lol. Took a little magic break and I'm getting back into the mix of things as we speak to find inspiration haha
@@paperpauperplayer Oh thank god!!! lol But no I feel you on that. I came to Magic from video games since I was getting burnt out on that but since have went back so now I'm juggling two time sink hobbies. Anyways, looking forward to your next video on whatever you decide to do going forward!
In Photoshop you can do this way easyer. One: use a pen tool and create a mask which you can use for the layer. Now you can reuse this mask for all the cards. Two: Create a folder in your layers and add the opacity to that folder and now you only have to place the layers in that folder and all the layers will have that opacity. Three: search up how you can automate things within photoshop, this way you can select a folder with all the cards and then let photoshop do all the work.
@wernerfaaij this is true but this assumes that the average mtg youtuber has or pays for photoshop. Assuming people have a free photo editor is even stretch haha
Great video! Awesome insight into something a lot of people want to know, but doesn't know how to start looking that up ahah thanks man! Edit - The thumbnail vid would be awesome!
@wolfgangromine8341 I use power director 22! I think they've unfortunately resulted in a subscription service now days, but if you scour their website you may find a download
This is a great video! Ive done some proxy work, and instead of downloading each card image, I keep a separate file of mana symbols. Then using a totally legal copy of beleren font, type out the card name. It saves be from all of the washe of having to download each image, but with your tts trick it might be faster... Maybe i should try that. Thanks!
@folderrr for photo editing, I used a program called getpaint.NET. It's a free application that is literally just photoshop, and for video editing program, I use PowerDirector 2020 by Cyberlink. I do think powerdirector shifted to a subscription based service, I am unsure. But if youre able to just purchase fhe program I'd highly recommend!
i was wondering how they did this for the longest time! it was only when i started watching gameplay on mengus workshop that i realized how long this process took lol
This video was great!!! I've been wanting to start making videos myself starting with some of the Commander decks I am passionate about, however, the video creation side seems so alien to me. I don't know where to start.
@serrademers6047 thank you so much! It's a scary experience at first, and it's a lot to take in. But it doesn't take too long to learn. It all just comes down to a decent script. Once you make your 3rd or 4th video, it's all easy! Don't be afraid to start and giving it a go!
Im.a bit confused on how they know whats in the opening hand and what they draw. Are there extra ameras tonshow whats in hand? Or is their a way to sluice through what's on hand by carefully watching the turn of events.
@TeaAddict1 their camera that is top down onto the table definitely records more than what we see on screen. I know this because of personal experience. I was able to watch my raw footage to see what cards were being drawn. It just requires who ever is playing to tilt their hand about 45°. With that being said; Card Market also does commentary throughout the matches of their videos, so I assume during actual recording they are writing information down so they can keep track of everything in-between moments and shots
We take photos of our opening hands, which is handy when adding the first 7 cards, then I instruct the players to draw cards in a way that shows them to the overhead camera (which shows the whole table, not just the playmat. I usually have to go to the original file to look at each draw when editing). All in all, this is more time consuming than it is technically complicated. But I find that it adds a lot to the viewing experience :)
RIP PleasantKenobi 😥 I kinda wanna make a tool that generates these images. As a software developer it pains me to see video editors doing all this manual work.
RIP 🙏 All video editors highly appreciate that, and we look forward to your efforts. Also let me know if you need to know how what would need to be implemented so it could work on a video editing system lol
@@paperpauperplayer I think my MVP would be a very basic tool that lets you type in a card name (or multiple names) and get the name badge(s) out in one or more image files, using the scryfall API. OBS and video editing plugin would be a later step. I'll hit you up here if/when I get started.
I thought a simple MSE style would do the trick, after all what you are looking for is just an alternate style for a card. Scryfall images don't have the name bar in identical positions across all card images. You could do a script to read out mana costs from scryfall (and check for the few things that might alter the name bar, like devoid) and then generates a MSE file with the relevant styles (split+aftermath cards need some exta work).
I don't know what MSE is, but I have the same thought as you. It will be good enough to generate plausible-looking name bars based on templates. Pulling images of whole cards could be relevant for other features, though.
Hello can I ask how to add special effect to a video. I make homemade videos, but my "special effects" always feel awkward. So I wanted to ask how to make it better. (If opacity is the key, i would scratch my hair😂)
@The_Abhy depends on what you mean by adding special effects? There's different ways of doing it for different needs and applications. • If you want to just have things pop up on the screen, it's as simple as just downloading the image or video and adding it to the top layer. Try adding transitions and sound effects to make it feel less like a sideshow • If you are trying to make animations or effects on the screen, such as making a puff of smoke appear to have something appear on the screen, just look up green screen effects on UA-cam! Download different green screen effects and animations, and when you put them into your video, you need to find the color key tool. The color key too is how green screens work. You select the green, and anything that is that color on that source will disappear and become transparent. This is the easiest way to add free effects to your video •The final option is actually animating effects by yourself. But this obviously requires knowledge of how to do that, or you can pay someone. To really help, I'd need more detail on what you're looking to do
great idea! there is also a lot of nice and opensource programs to use to edit images and videos that can be used for free here is a cute emoji for the pauper thingy ⸜(｡˃ ᵕ ˂ )⸝♡
It was wild when you showed up in the studio and hit Pleasant Kenobi over the head with a shovel (as you can tell from our horrified expressions) but at least it was a necessary evil into making this wonderful thumbnail 😅
@@CardmarketMagic It was a sacrifice I was willing to make. Rest in peace, Vincent 🙏
You guys are great sports. Love your content to pieces! 😃🤩
To anyone asking about automated masking: Scryfall provides both images and the frame used on the card.
However, card scans (especially older ones) aren't always centered the same way - and even an offset by a few pixels looks very weird on video.
I tried, but ultimately couldn't get a fully automated version to work. (That being said I'm not a software developer)
@jaminkauf6242 Thank you for the insight on that one, Jamin! Perhaps some day someone can develop one that only can pull from anything 8th edition or after, and then thar developer can just manually insert old cards into the program for future use, sense we don't have to worry about new old boarder cards coming out. But with me also, I am also not a software developer 🤷♂️ haha. Thanks for checking out the video!
@@paperpauperplayer I do have some software development skills :) My thinking is if you want to automate it, you just make blank frames, and write code to insert names and mana costs using the right fonts/images. Now they won't all literally look like the actual card, since you're picking a frame and putting every card name/cost into it, but the consistency might be an upside, and not doing the manual work probably would be too haha. It's basically a simplified version of those online magic card generators, not too hard to write.
At the scale and opacity that it is in the video, no one will be able to tell that it isn't just the actual card lol. So great idea!
That's such a great insight into how much effort it actually takes to produce these silly videos about a card game.
It's also great that you've reached out to them to ask about revealing their 'trade secrets'. They also seem like really cool dudes and I hope some day you get to a point where you get to collaborate with them on paper pauper content.
@Dimitar_Tsanev I can't stress enough just how much time editing anything takes. Trust me. I'd put out a video a week if I could haha
Oh, they are SO nice! I would LOVE to go to Europe to crush them with UW CawGates 😍
@@paperpauperplayer I met Carl and Thoralf in person at Paupergeddon and they are just as in the videos, super fun, passionate and chill guys. They are the best.
@@lars_rosenberg that's awesome to hear! Hope I can too, one day 😁
you can make this a hell of a lot easier just by making a small program that automatically downloads and crops all the images on Scryfall based on a deck list. No need for all that manual labor of editing. The next step would be to make the editing process of that automatic so you can just have a widget you put in and update the text of their hand and it updates, but that's a editing software specific thing and I don't know as much about.
@ybabts I mean. Once you get the gist of it down, it's not hours of labor. I don't know how to code, so if you can make a program that does it, that'd be phenomenal! Carl messaged me and told me he actually uses a masking process so it's just automatically cropped out. He just inserts the card image into the mask and it's done. So my way was definitely a work around but hey, to each their own! Who ever couldn't do it before can now at least do it, even if it's a bit of the long way!
Obviously you can do it later, sorting out hands and what was played, but cardmarket also 'pauses' gameplay every draw or turn to take photos of the hand and write down stuff to talk about in the 'interview' portions. At least that's what I remember from their bts video (which everyone should go watch).
It really helps us, the viewer, know what's going on in their heads and hands at the time, and I assume helps editing to know the play by play without going through the footage over and over.
Oh absolutely. There's actually a comment from card market on this video saying that they only do the write down for the first hand and just hold the hands out for the camera. That's all easier said than done when you have an actual production team and whatnot. They truly do revolutionize Magic content!
New Subscriber here! Loving the content and style you bring to your videos. I recently got back into Magic and Pauper has been my main thang! But alas I only play with my fiance since no one else really plays it at my LGS. Hope to see you upload again soon!
@PhantomChurros thank you so much! Glad you enjoy the content 😊 I am not dead, I promise lol. Took a little magic break and I'm getting back into the mix of things as we speak to find inspiration haha
@@paperpauperplayer Oh thank god!!! lol But no I feel you on that. I came to Magic from video games since I was getting burnt out on that but since have went back so now I'm juggling two time sink hobbies. Anyways, looking forward to your next video on whatever you decide to do going forward!
Even though I don’t do video editing, this was really great to watch and learn all that goes on behind the scenes of our favorite videos. Thanks!
@jimbosax of course! Glad you enjoyed it! 😁
The real secret of Cardmarket is that behind the scene, it's actually called Carlmarket
@@zendicarreborn8896 Real
amazing content !
also i absolutely love your sweater
Thank you so much! 😊💛
I am a huge Ariana Grande fan 😍 the sweater is from Etey and it's my favorite! So thank-you! 😁
In Photoshop you can do this way easyer.
One: use a pen tool and create a mask which you can use for the layer. Now you can reuse this mask for all the cards.
Two: Create a folder in your layers and add the opacity to that folder and now you only have to place the layers in that folder and all the layers will have that opacity.
Three: search up how you can automate things within photoshop, this way you can select a folder with all the cards and then let photoshop do all the work.
@wernerfaaij this is true but this assumes that the average mtg youtuber has or pays for photoshop. Assuming people have a free photo editor is even stretch haha
Great video! Awesome insight into something a lot of people want to know, but doesn't know how to start looking that up ahah thanks man!
Edit - The thumbnail vid would be awesome!
@MrKinyuOne thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed 🙏
I'll definitely put it on the list 👀
@@paperpauperplayer ayyy appreciated!
This is a great video. What video editing software do you use? Or which one do you recommend?
@wolfgangromine8341 I use power director 22! I think they've unfortunately resulted in a subscription service now days, but if you scour their website you may find a download
This is a fantastic video and thunbnail dude. I had often thoight about adding this UI for paper playing videos as well
@saltandpauper thank you brother 🙏 you should add it! It's worth it!
@@paperpauperplayer I'd have to find someone to do paper content with for that to happen 🤣
Welcome to my life 🙄 lol
This is a great video! Ive done some proxy work, and instead of downloading each card image, I keep a separate file of mana symbols. Then using a totally legal copy of beleren font, type out the card name. It saves be from all of the washe of having to download each image, but with your tts trick it might be faster... Maybe i should try that.
Thanks!
@kylemoran9875 total legal copy of Beleran is such a funny sentence lmao
Glad you enjoyed it! 🙏
Well you just aquire the font the way it's namesake would
You choose if I mean Guildpact or Ixalan
what photo and video editing programs did you use in the examples in the video?
@folderrr for photo editing, I used a program called getpaint.NET. It's a free application that is literally just photoshop, and for video editing program, I use PowerDirector 2020 by Cyberlink. I do think powerdirector shifted to a subscription based service, I am unsure. But if youre able to just purchase fhe program I'd highly recommend!
@@paperpauperplayer thank you!!
i was wondering how they did this for the longest time! it was only when i started watching gameplay on mengus workshop that i realized how long this process took lol
Just a little 🌟movie magic🌟
This video was great!!! I've been wanting to start making videos myself starting with some of the Commander decks I am passionate about, however, the video creation side seems so alien to me. I don't know where to start.
@serrademers6047 thank you so much! It's a scary experience at first, and it's a lot to take in. But it doesn't take too long to learn. It all just comes down to a decent script. Once you make your 3rd or 4th video, it's all easy! Don't be afraid to start and giving it a go!
I should start doing this!
@@rebelresource you should!
Video editing aside..... how did you get yourself to look so dang handsome 😍😘
@@fixnoone oh shucks, stop it ☺️😳
Im.a bit confused on how they know whats in the opening hand and what they draw. Are there extra ameras tonshow whats in hand? Or is their a way to sluice through what's on hand by carefully watching the turn of events.
@TeaAddict1 their camera that is top down onto the table definitely records more than what we see on screen. I know this because of personal experience. I was able to watch my raw footage to see what cards were being drawn. It just requires who ever is playing to tilt their hand about 45°.
With that being said; Card Market also does commentary throughout the matches of their videos, so I assume during actual recording they are writing information down so they can keep track of everything in-between moments and shots
In their behind the scenes video, they say the players take a picture of their opening hand with their phones after the starting draw.
@tanyushing2494 oh, then there's that. Yeah, a little behind the scenes stuff for the editors sake!
We take photos of our opening hands, which is handy when adding the first 7 cards, then I instruct the players to draw cards in a way that shows them to the overhead camera (which shows the whole table, not just the playmat. I usually have to go to the original file to look at each draw when editing). All in all, this is more time consuming than it is technically complicated. But I find that it adds a lot to the viewing experience :)
@@CardmarketMagic thanks!
RIP PleasantKenobi 😥
I kinda wanna make a tool that generates these images. As a software developer it pains me to see video editors doing all this manual work.
RIP 🙏
All video editors highly appreciate that, and we look forward to your efforts.
Also let me know if you need to know how what would need to be implemented so it could work on a video editing system lol
@@paperpauperplayer I think my MVP would be a very basic tool that lets you type in a card name (or multiple names) and get the name badge(s) out in one or more image files, using the scryfall API. OBS and video editing plugin would be a later step. I'll hit you up here if/when I get started.
I thought a simple MSE style would do the trick, after all what you are looking for is just an alternate style for a card. Scryfall images don't have the name bar in identical positions across all card images. You could do a script to read out mana costs from scryfall (and check for the few things that might alter the name bar, like devoid) and then generates a MSE file with the relevant styles (split+aftermath cards need some exta work).
I don't know what MSE is, but I have the same thought as you. It will be good enough to generate plausible-looking name bars based on templates. Pulling images of whole cards could be relevant for other features, though.
Hello can I ask how to add special effect to a video. I make homemade videos, but my "special effects" always feel awkward. So I wanted to ask how to make it better. (If opacity is the key, i would scratch my hair😂)
@The_Abhy depends on what you mean by adding special effects? There's different ways of doing it for different needs and applications.
• If you want to just have things pop up on the screen, it's as simple as just downloading the image or video and adding it to the top layer. Try adding transitions and sound effects to make it feel less like a sideshow
• If you are trying to make animations or effects on the screen, such as making a puff of smoke appear to have something appear on the screen, just look up green screen effects on UA-cam! Download different green screen effects and animations, and when you put them into your video, you need to find the color key tool. The color key too is how green screens work. You select the green, and anything that is that color on that source will disappear and become transparent. This is the easiest way to add free effects to your video
•The final option is actually animating effects by yourself. But this obviously requires knowledge of how to do that, or you can pay someone.
To really help, I'd need more detail on what you're looking to do
great idea! there is also a lot of nice and opensource programs to use to edit images and videos that can be used for free
here is a cute emoji for the pauper thingy ⸜(｡˃ ᵕ ˂ )⸝♡
@unseeliedream42 absolutely! I don't use photoshop. I use a program called paint .net.
There's also Gimp which is a great choice!
can we get support on shopping wizard for packs
Damn that's cool bro 😎
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed 😁
you can automate most of that using a python script and cropping
@TobeydoSomething oh I'm sure of it but I can't code and I'm not paying someone to do so lol. If someone did make a script that'd be badass
Timmy, my life alert isn't working. You're good with computers, can you help Grandma out?
@@majestyzx9081 Grandma. Why are you asking me this AFTER you fell down the stairs?
@@paperpauperplayer Wait a second, I don't have grandchildren.
It's okay, Grandma. Here's a photo of us at Olive Garden for your 75th birthday. You always forget.