Odyssey 120mm EDF build, workshop tech talk, TOPRC Model Jet 2,3m 14kg, 10kW, 12-14s Li-Ion 16Ah
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- Опубліковано 20 гру 2020
- TOPRC Model Jet Odyssey 2,3m
flying weight: 14kg
drive: EDF 120mm JP Hobby rotor, WB custom shroud
motor: HET Typhoon 700-98-935 kv, approx. 600g. max 10kW with heat sink
batteries: 12-14s Li-Ion Samsung 40T 12-16Ah 2,8kg-3,8kg
ESC: 12s - 165Amp, 14s - 190Amp
Flying time 7-10 min.
FrSky RC system, Tx Horus X10 Express, RB-30 with stab. Rx - RXSR
Servos: TOWER PRO MG 946R 18kg at 7.2v
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Very informative excellent video thank you
I have just now seen your videos. I am blown away completely! You are an amazing builder and pilot and master of this technology. Also thank you Poland for helping your neighbor country. Please stay safe.
Very impressive informative and interesting. Great job!
Damn Clever..
Very interesting project - really looking forward to the next Video. Keep the good work...
Very informative, thank you.
Very nice. Looking forward to the build and flight. Merry Christmas Wojtek.
Thanks :)
So much excellent information! Thanks so much, it is appreciated. Subscribed.
Nice looking model :)
Wow!
Excellent channel and info my friend... Subscribed 🙂
I've enjoyed watching this video and looking forward to seeing your maiden. Also have learn and few things from this video. I've also watch many of your mini Avanti videos, really impress with the different EDF setups you tried. I'd like to try one of the 6s Mewo tec setup you. That mini Avanti really moves.
You need a bigger shop to work. I also use Frsky radio for the pass 6 yrs using the RB20 in one of my HSD EDF viper with R8 Pro and R9 Slim.
Looking forward to seeing more of your video keep up the good work.
Thanks. My Sebart Avanti died today... hard crash... so I quickly ordered the Freewing Avanti again to have something to fly while building the Odyssey :)
@@EDFjetRC Oh man sorry to hear that, such a beautiful looking plane. Am waiting for them to come in to stock here in the USA around late February. Going for the Yellow/Black scheme. Looking forward to seeing your build videos on the Odyssey.
Merry Christmas to you and your family. Can't wait to see the build on this jet. Love the videos keep them coming. Can't find the Black horse Viper anywhere... no availability until June or July of next year according to several retailers.
For the BH Viper try the: www.flybestmodel.com/black-horse/2001-viper-jet-mkii-arf-1885mm-120mm-edf-black-horse.html
Come back wojeck! Miss your videos!!
Hello, I really like your videos, especialy the "tech-talk" one's, keep it up! It's nice to look at such passionate person. You have such a talent not only in modeling, but also as a blogger! How long have you been into rc models? Maybe you can tell us a little about yourself in your next videos?)
Good idea :) I do it since I was 6 :)
Sehr sympathisch und Grüße an den Vater! ☺️
Danke :)
Thumbs up on shroud design !!! Do you have files for your shroud posted anywhere? Do you have thrust figures for fan set up yet? thx in advance for any input
Mine is ordered. Going with the Jetfan 120 pro/590kv and 16s200A esc. Will the KINGMAX KM1203MD-20g 9kg cm 34g metal gear Mini digital servos work for my @10~11kg setup? I fly very smoothly and care less about aerobatics, will be using 16s3p12600 Li-Ion for long 50~60% flights with the occasional full power passes.
What are the details of the 6S Li-Ion battery pack please, Love your videos and enjoy the tech talks very much
Hi, super nice build! I purchased one myself! Can you share some comments on how you designed the hidden servo and servo horn systems to keep the control surfaces clean? What system did you use? I know IRF Machine works sells a pretty neat system. Thanks!
Great following your oddesy project, could you please send the housing STL file as I’m going down this route, also are the reclaimed Tesla ions ok?
Cheers Mike
Hi what program do you use to design the EDF housing
Very impressive and such an ambitious EDF project. I've been eyeing the Odyssey for a while now. It will be great to see how it flies with a 120mm fan. The recommended turbine is 100-140 Newtons - in the middle is 12Kg of thrust - you should be close to that with 10KW! Do you have a projected all up weight for it? Do you think those landing gear are strong enough for it especially from grass?
AUW should be 13.2kg, landing gear will be strong enough even for 20kg plane :)
Lots of excellent information there, many thanks, could not find that particular Sunrise ESC that you mention. Could you post a link to it. Many thanks
I decided to go with HobbyWing FLYFUN 160-200A 14s ESC. This way I will fly sooner :)
HobbyWing ESC is quite inexpensive too :)
Very Interesting! I am learning a lot. Not to be a bother, but you mentioned reaching out via email if we are interesting in the STL files. Where do I find that email? I really would like to try the edf shroud and the batter brackets for 8s and 6s. Thanks in advance. Cheer!
What kind of servro system is used to hid them?
Dear Sr , could you please share the STL files for 3D print ? A very good friend of mine wants to replicate your setup !! Amazing job !! Congratulations!!
Do think the Castle Creation ESC 160 With a fan would be sufficient for the BH 12s 120mm EDF set up
for sure :)
Hello , would you please send to me the STL file for the 120mm shroud for 40mm motor? Thank You Bob Griffith, Florida
Hello, thanks for the video, have you already flown it?, any idea of the thrust?
Yes I have flown on 12s 165 Amp but it was not enough thrust. It was 9kg of thrust with 14,5kg of takeoff weight. Now I prepare 14s 180Amp drive. Should be enough, 11.5kg of thrust.
@@EDFjetRC Thanks! Yes that's borderline. I wanted to build a Mini Avanti but after waiting for several months I ended up with a FlexJet Pro on Wemotec 8S for 4kg thrust and 5kg fully loaded. Now I'm thinking of something bigger on 12S but I think this Odyssey is huge, maybe a Carf Rebel Hot with an EDF on 6kg... :-)
@@hectorlmges You are correct, the Odyssey is Very Very big and power system becomes a trouble... FlexJet Pro looks super nice and as almost a delta it will fly like a dream :)
Do you share your stl or cad files of the 3 piece shroud somewhere please ?
Awsome airplane! Look forward to more of your content! Question, where can I buy this craft from?
BigPlanes Netherlands :) Great shop, very good service :)
I wish to see a plane With the same Odyssey size with twin engines 120mm , Is there one!???
Hello , are you okey , I want the chassis or the model by itself with a size of 90 mm. I have all the engines, but I only want the chassis!
How do you get the amperage you need? The Samsung 40t has a maximum discharge of 45A.
I do not know where you get this info from... :)
@@EDFjetRC According to the specification 40 amperes. Maximum current discharge 10s. It is obtained by parallel connection 6s3p 12000mAh 120A. I saw a video of a Samsung 40t being discharged at 45a, but it shows a strong voltage drop down to 3.2v. Accordingly, the power drops to a minimum. How much amperage do you actually get at 12s 12000mAh? I need to get about 7kWt, this will save my project and not turn it into brick :))
@@vadiasss3332 12s 12000mAh can easly deliver in flight 8kW
@@EDFjetRC Well, if so, then it is almost 160A. Thank you so much for the advice. I will try. My Viperjet 2.2m is almost ready to fly. I will follow your project. I was very intrigued :)))👍👍👍👍👍
@@vadiasss3332 Li-Ions run lower Volts during flight so you need to compensate with higher kv of the motor.
Really big plane for EDF .... how much is the weight of the entire kit?
7kg just airframe and 14kg to fly already with batteries.
@@EDFjetRC Thank you for the fast answer ... i know the plane and i flies really well ... i am wondering a little about your EDF components because the HET Motor 700-98 normally is rated with 4800W Maximum (2400 Watt continous) and you use a relativly high KV for the JP rotor and for 14S .... normally JP suggest a 673KV Motor for the 120 Rotor at 7800W .... so a 935 KV in my opinion is too much .... so i hope it will not burn after a short while. But you have shown allready other things which are working ... so i am curios to see if it works.
@@markusstadlbauer9928 the power of the motor is related to rpm of the motor. 700-98 would probably burn with JetFan120 at 7kW but JP 120 rotor is way milder than JetFan so it has to spin much faster to generate 7kW. So if you want to use small motor at high power than you need to use light rotors :) At 7kW my 700-98 was bearly warm :) The reason I use this motor is it's extremaly high electrical efficiency and small diameter which gives airflow efficiency.
@@EDFjetRC Thank you for the explanation, so i see you have thought a lot about it. I had only a short look at the JP homepage what JP´s recommendation for 14s is and there i read that the 14S motor have 673kV and needs allready 7800W for an outrunner which have more tourqe than an inrunner ... so i thought 935kV for and inrunner seems to be A LOT ;-). But i see that you have allready tested here and have of course a better experience for the Motor. I have only experience with the 700-98-780 in an Jetfan 110 at 12S and here the motor was quiet warm at about 100Amps (4400W) .... so as i read that you will have twice the power with the same motor .... it initially seems nearly unbeliveable .... so i am very curious about the desired engine ... let´s see.
Of course a very intresting project, also with the retracts and the combined ESC ... cool ...!!
@@markusstadlbauer9928 every kv of the 700-98 motor is a different motor. Low kv motor has thin copper wire and can handle less Amps, higher kv motor has thicker copper wire and can handle more current. Also every manufacturer measures their kv differently so JP kv is a different story than HET kv...
I pulled 7kW out of 370g motors so 600g of 700-98 is plenty :)
If you deal with quality motors the rule of tomb is g=W x10. So 300g motor = 3000W max power.
Do you sell your customized edf jet? They look so nice !
maybe one day, not just yet :)
What is your email address. Very interested in edfs mounts and battery mounts.
I'm not a flyer, but you definitely know how to fly.
Love all your tips.
Keep it up.
Peter
In regards to batteries the newest top of the line cells are from SMC Racing (www.smc-racing.com/) . See www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?1767093-Battery-Load-Test-Comparisons/page708 .... The SMC Racing cells are 20 - 30% more capacity of Turnigy Graphenes, the same or higher C rating but at lighter or just 1 - 2 oz more of weight.
Thanks :) I will look at them :)
Wojtek you need a bigger house on the ground
Hi sir, im really interested to have my own project as such. But i may need some of your guide of assistance.can i have your email,hopefully that way we can communicate....
Thanks in advance, safe flite,fly smart✌🏾😎👍🏾