pasaron casi 20 años yo fui areomodelista me obsesione con los modelos indoor , hice 2 años de ingenieria aeronatica y termine siendo ingeniero civil que recuerdos tan bellos tengo de estos videos
Hemos visto el video en silencio, suspendidos en la belleza de estos aeroplanos delicados y sutiles. Gracias al documentalista por el ritmo pausado y por hacer ver el oficio de los que saben su arte y perseveran en el oficio.
I did some condenser paper models, but never had the patience or skills to do micro-film. I used to go to the Cleveland Indoor Contest, held in the Public Auditorium with a 170 ft. ceiling, and there were amazing flights of over an hour in there (for guys flying microfilm craft .. HLG were capable of really long flights as well .. even the old Ranger 21 class was well attended back then) . Thanks for bringing back some old memories of good times ...
A pesar que la pregunta de 2245cristian tiene 7 meses, igual va la respuesta que puede servir a muchos: Alphonse Penaud fue el primero que hizo volar con éxito un modelo mas pesado que el aire y propulsado por una hélice de empuje (pusher) que giraba por la fuerza de una banda de goma enrollada. Llamó a su modelo "Planophore" y realizó el primer vuelo en Tuileries, París, Francia el 18 de Agosto de 1871. El Planophore recorrió una distancia de 181 piés (55,16 mt.) en 11 segundos.
Hola Eduardo... mi hermano es fanatico del aeromodelismo, cuando chicos haciamos unos modelos muy similares con madera de balsa, pero en ese tiempo no habia alusa asi que usabamos papel de volantín, volaban excelente... estos son realmente muy delicados, se ven e t e r e o s.... Un Abrazo... Alma
Elástico TAN de 1 mm x 0,8 mm aprox, segun el criterio del competidor y el desarrollo del modelo. (temperatura, humedad, antiguedad del elástico, lubricación, vueltas en el eje, luz solar, torque, tensión, largo, tipo de ganchos en cada extremo y peso, son algunos factores que determinan que "elástico-motor" usar.)
OMG! ROFL! I'm 59 and this looks interesting as a part of my new RC flight hobby. Plus, I saw the advert at the bottom of the vid, "Funeral Plans for the Over 50s" Hahahahahahaha
behold the forerunners of todays indoor slow-flyers like the night vapor... I used to love reading up on this class of competition in my grand-dads AMA 'model aviation' magazines... These are quite difficult and time consuming to build and set up. The class is similar to outdoor free-flight, where the contest involves "duration", or who can stay aloft the longest. In the late 80's, someone made one RC with a single channel rudder actuated by heating a nichrome wire circuit pulling surface...
For all those interested in seeing and learning more about this class of aircraft, just focus on searching the term "F1D" (the AMA/FIM classification of this form of model competition) Trust me, the amount of stuff to be learned and enjoyed from F1D is endless!
que hermoso y delicado mis mas sinceras felicitaciones por tan bello hobbye,como puedo hacer para aprender este arte, yo piloteo helis rc,mucha adrenalina,y esto del fly in door es ideal para relajar los nervios,saludos de chile.
la verdad q desde la primera vez q vi un indoor quede estupefacto y no sabia q se practicaba tamb en Argentina, eso me agrada, gracias por compartir salud2
Because the wood is very light and not dense, so the thin film just acts as a somewhat solid surface air can flow over. Hence, the plane is probably so light that it could alone probably drift with the air for a while
These planes are called F1d's. They are very lightweight and delicate aircraft sometimes taking weeks to make. The wings are made of very low density balsa wood (hard to find in stores) and the covering is a very thin film. The covering that looks like bubble is micro film, which is made by pouring a solution over a tank of water until a film develops. The film is removed by a frame and let cured until it is ready to cover the wing frame.
Dlocalhost, propellers don't keep planes aloft. Air keeps planes aloft. The plane is light enough that it will probably glide very far without the propeller. The propeller only provides a little extra lift. (throwing it would probably tear the plane apart)
Google f1d plans. There are many plans on planes like this and similar planes. This particular plane is the F1D, which is one of the hardest ones to build. A simpler one is a limited pennyplane which is a much heavier and sturdy airplane which got me started. There are plenty of articles on the websites that pop up which tell you about the hobby and how to get started.
Cordial saludo, buen trabajo pero que consideraciones hay que tener en cuenta para hacer uno, en este momento estoy construyendo uno pero de forma empirica pues no consigo tutoriales , calculos, etc... solo se consigue de fabrica. El mio lo estoy haciendo a base de papel celofan y madera balsa cuadrada de 5 x 5 mm y la embergadura es de 57cm y el largo de 48cm
@edoguerr ¿en cuanto tiempo se logra hacer uno? pregunto esto por que tengo una feria de ciencias y me interesa mucho esto. ¿ un modelo que sea vistoso para hacer?
A few kits available. Hand-launch planes are easy to construct using balsa and basswood. special rubber-bands at hobby shops used for propulsion, but these little guys can be thrown by hand and stay aloft for a long period. Rudder steers the plane, wing lifts and stabilizer keeps it horizontal. Think LIGHTweight like balsa, carbon fiber, plastic straws, etc.
Ok, these are so delicate that, I guess I couldn't throw 'em in the back of the car and zoom down to the local hall. Hmm, ah, I could build my plane At the hall! . Does anyone know where I can find a list of materials and some plans?
De madera de balsa y otros materiales resistentes - livianos como algunos tipos de mylar o pequeños filamentos de fibra de carbono. El motor es de elástico. Y mucha paciencia y tiempo.
@edoguerr yo tengo q hacer uno para mi materia de procesos productivos pero me podrias ayudar con las medidas es que no tengo idea de cuanto tiene q medir cada ala y el largo del fuselaje, ademas el material que es?
@edoguerr muchas gracias aunque algunas paginas no me abren me podrias pasar tu correo lo que pasa es que en algunos paises prohiben algunas paginas y si es pdf me lo podrias pasar el plano?
Abraham Mat Go to volareproducts.com and look for the Tan Super Sport rubber. I buy it in 1 lb boxes in the 1/8" strip width. To get it to the right size for indoor models, you'll need to buy a rubber stripper from Ray Harlan's Indoor Model Specialties. For outdoor flying, you can just loop it the number of times you need for the desired cross section. Don't forget to buy rubber lubricant so the motors don't chafe as they are wound. For some basic kits to get started, have a look at lasercutplanes.com or consider the Phantom Flash from Volare.
pasaron casi 20 años yo fui areomodelista me obsesione con los modelos indoor , hice 2 años de ingenieria aeronatica y termine siendo ingeniero civil que recuerdos tan bellos tengo de estos videos
Absolutely spectacular! Craftsmanship at it's finest.
QUE ORGULLO!!!!!! felicitaciones no sabia que en argentina eramos tan buenos para esto, me siento muy orgulloso suerte!!!!
Hemos visto el video en silencio, suspendidos en la belleza de estos aeroplanos delicados y sutiles. Gracias al documentalista por el ritmo pausado y por hacer ver el oficio de los que saben su arte y perseveran en el oficio.
I did some condenser paper models, but never had the patience or skills to do micro-film. I used to go to the Cleveland Indoor Contest, held in the Public Auditorium with a 170 ft. ceiling, and there were amazing flights of over an hour in there (for guys flying microfilm craft .. HLG were capable of really long flights as well .. even the old Ranger 21 class was well attended back then) . Thanks for bringing back some old memories of good times ...
Símplemente brillante. Gracias por tu esfuerzo y dedicación para que todos podamos disfrutar de esta belleza. Un saludo.
Es impresionante, gracias por el video, m deslumbro ideas y sueños para mi carrera. En verdad gracias
hypnotic to watch that contraption fly. looks almost unreal.
FELICITACIONES POR SUBIR ESTOS HERMOSOS VIDEOS.
Music was very suitable, The skill set required to build these things is utter craftsmanship. Great show.
gotta be a record for slowest flight! So serene! so beautiful!
muy buen video Eduardo, gracias por subirlo
Sergio Del Patto
es lo mas extraordinario que e visto me gustaría aprender a hacerlo. hermoso
A pesar que la pregunta de 2245cristian tiene 7 meses, igual va la respuesta que puede servir a muchos:
Alphonse Penaud fue el primero que hizo volar con éxito un modelo mas pesado que el aire y propulsado por una hélice de empuje (pusher) que giraba por la fuerza de una banda de goma enrollada. Llamó a su modelo "Planophore" y realizó el primer vuelo en Tuileries, París, Francia el 18 de Agosto de 1871. El Planophore recorrió una distancia de 181 piés (55,16 mt.) en 11 segundos.
Spellbinding! Increible!
realmente hermoso.donde puedo conceguir informacion tecnica? me gustaria armar el mio
gracias por incluir la contrucción del principio!
Hola Eduardo... mi hermano es fanatico del aeromodelismo, cuando chicos haciamos unos modelos muy similares con madera de balsa, pero en ese tiempo no habia alusa asi que usabamos papel de volantín, volaban excelente... estos son realmente muy delicados, se ven e t e r e o s....
Un Abrazo... Alma
Amazing! Thank you for sharing!
Works of art man ! works of ART !
It plane weights less than .5 of one ounce.
The prop has a high pitch, so it grabs lots of air giving thrust.
sencillamente increíbles, es cierto: se ven "etéreos", casi celestiales, claro de esas manos !! un abrazo a todos losque hacemos balsa y papel!!
es la cosa mas linda que he visto en la vidaaaaaa
Exelente!!!
quisiera saber que matrerial es el de las alas y que tipo de madera lleva
Salu2
Nice video, very well edited, perfect music.
hermoso en todo!
very great guys... really beautiful work of art!!!
es lo mejor q visto------
Elástico TAN de 1 mm x 0,8 mm aprox, segun el criterio del competidor y el desarrollo del modelo. (temperatura, humedad, antiguedad del elástico, lubricación, vueltas en el eje, luz solar, torque, tensión, largo, tipo de ganchos en cada extremo y peso, son algunos factores que determinan que "elástico-motor" usar.)
OMG! ROFL! I'm 59 and this looks interesting as a part of my new RC flight hobby. Plus, I saw the advert at the bottom of the vid, "Funeral Plans for the Over 50s" Hahahahahahaha
unbelievable slow flying !
great !
they are so graceful!
one word. graceful.
AMAZING ...SO GRACEFULL ..NICE FILM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW NICE JOB
Muy Elegante! Puro ZEN!
behold the forerunners of todays indoor slow-flyers like the night vapor...
I used to love reading up on this class of competition in my grand-dads AMA 'model aviation' magazines... These are quite difficult and time consuming to build and set up.
The class is similar to outdoor free-flight, where the contest involves "duration", or who can stay aloft the longest.
In the late 80's, someone made one RC with a single channel rudder actuated by heating a nichrome wire circuit pulling surface...
For all those interested in seeing and learning more about this class of aircraft, just focus on searching the term "F1D" (the AMA/FIM classification of this form of model competition)
Trust me, the amount of stuff to be learned and enjoyed from F1D is endless!
piece of art
Aren't these the old, braced 65cm models? Beautifully made video.
hola me pueden contestar estas pregustas
quien invento el motor a goma?
en que año ?
muy bueno
que hermoso y delicado mis mas sinceras felicitaciones por tan bello hobbye,como puedo hacer para aprender este arte, yo piloteo helis rc,mucha adrenalina,y esto del fly in door es ideal para relajar los nervios,saludos de chile.
amazing, there like insects!! what film material is used to create the wing??
Those things are amazing, how can I learn to build one?
thef1dblog.wordpress.com/2015/06/14/f1d-plan-construction-information/
Only the best!
this is just awesome Art
Muy alegre al ver esto☺️👍
this is like transendental medication, zen and the art of bright flight the light fantastic (if you know what i mean)
It was so amazing when he let go of the plane that it almost didn't seem real.
I used to build and fly F1A and pennyplanes, but haven't been able to find materials for years :-( Anyone know a source for indoor wood and rubber?
piece of art, incredible
wow... it looks like a floating angel
En Verdad Me Encanto, de lo mas hermoso.
Fascinating but not sure if I could handle the adrenaline rush. Voted !
Wooooooooooooooooow Nice slow fly
la verdad q desde la primera vez q vi un indoor quede estupefacto y no sabia q se practicaba tamb en Argentina, eso me agrada, gracias por compartir salud2
hola estoy en el 2020 la humanidad necesita esos aviones , por favor manden los planos =)
thef1dblog.wordpress.com/2015/06/14/f1d-plan-construction-information/
@@edoguerr gracias buena persona.
beautifully put together film, i have always wanted to see this and will make a point of doing so!
Pure art!
muy bueno!
Que material usan para el entelado? muy bueno
Very elegant.
Because the wood is very light and not dense, so the thin film just acts as a somewhat solid surface air can flow over. Hence, the plane is probably so light that it could alone probably drift with the air for a while
These planes are called F1d's. They are very lightweight and delicate aircraft sometimes taking weeks to make. The wings are made of very low density balsa wood (hard to find in stores) and the covering is a very thin film. The covering that looks like bubble is micro film, which is made by pouring a solution over a tank of water until a film develops. The film is removed by a frame and let cured until it is ready to cover the wing frame.
que pasiencia tiene el señor que hizo eso :DD
that's pretty nice
Sheer delightful BEAUTY!!!
Dlocalhost, propellers don't keep planes aloft. Air keeps planes aloft. The plane is light enough that it will probably glide very far without the propeller. The propeller only provides a little extra lift. (throwing it would probably tear the plane apart)
Google f1d plans. There are many plans on planes like this and similar planes. This particular plane is the F1D, which is one of the hardest ones to build. A simpler one is a limited pennyplane which is a much heavier and sturdy airplane which got me started. There are plenty of articles on the websites that pop up which tell you about the hobby and how to get started.
si no me equivoco el material q utiliza es Verada algo liviano
super fregonsisimos
mereceu meu like
Cordial saludo, buen trabajo pero que consideraciones hay que tener en cuenta para hacer uno, en este momento estoy construyendo uno pero de forma empirica pues no consigo tutoriales , calculos, etc... solo se consigue de fabrica. El mio lo estoy haciendo a base de papel celofan y madera balsa cuadrada de 5 x 5 mm y la embergadura es de 57cm y el largo de 48cm
@edoguerr ¿en cuanto tiempo se logra hacer uno? pregunto esto por que tengo una feria de ciencias y me interesa mucho esto. ¿ un modelo que sea vistoso para hacer?
A few kits available. Hand-launch planes are easy to construct using balsa and basswood. special rubber-bands at hobby shops used for propulsion, but these little guys can be thrown by hand and stay aloft for a long period. Rudder steers the plane, wing lifts and stabilizer keeps it horizontal. Think LIGHTweight like balsa, carbon fiber, plastic straws, etc.
amazing
Ok, these are so delicate that, I guess I couldn't throw 'em in the back of the car and zoom down to the local hall. Hmm, ah, I could build my plane At the hall!
.
Does anyone know where I can find a list of materials and some plans?
De madera de balsa y otros materiales resistentes - livianos como algunos tipos de mylar o pequeños filamentos de fibra de carbono. El motor es de elástico.
Y mucha paciencia y tiempo.
very nice!
How does it fly? Is it really just flying based on its light weight and surface area?
Yep. They really are that lightly loaded. Do a search for F1D for more planes like these.
is that balsa wood?
fantastic
@edoguerr yo tengo q hacer uno para mi materia de procesos productivos pero me podrias ayudar con las medidas es que no tengo idea de cuanto tiene q medir cada ala y el largo del fuselaje, ademas el material que es?
Espetáculo!!!
waw quisiera saber como lo haces!!
i am 13 years old and i love these slow flying planes
You can start constructing a P-18 model, please search for it
They use balsa wood, in a really strong, thin and lights weight stick pieces.
This models (with no rubber) weights no more than 2 grams...!!
@doridoritos YA pude abrirlo y gracias pero el entelado con que material es?
que material usa para que se muevan las aspas?
@edoguerr muchas gracias aunque algunas paginas no me abren me podrias pasar tu correo lo que pasa es que en algunos paises prohiben algunas paginas y si es pdf me lo podrias pasar el plano?
wow.... no gasoline, baterry, aftur...... great
Hola a que velocidad gira la helice, en YT se ve lento o que truco usan para que la goma se desenvuelva lentamente
How do they make the propellor move so slowly?
Very large propeller, very thin rubber motor.
joshuawfinn were do we get rubber motor... or how its made???
Abraham Mat it's just a rubber band twisted ;)
Abraham Mat Go to volareproducts.com and look for the Tan Super Sport rubber. I buy it in 1 lb boxes in the 1/8" strip width. To get it to the right size for indoor models, you'll need to buy a rubber stripper from Ray Harlan's Indoor Model Specialties. For outdoor flying, you can just loop it the number of times you need for the desired cross section. Don't forget to buy rubber lubricant so the motors don't chafe as they are wound.
For some basic kits to get started, have a look at lasercutplanes.com or consider the Phantom Flash from Volare.
ВЕС 1 ГРАММ. ДЕЛАЛИ ТАКОЕ ТОЖЕ. КЛАСС К-1..К-2..ЭКСПЕРЕМЕНТАЛЬНАЯ МОДЕЛЬ И КОПИЯ САМОЛЕТА (МАЛЕНЬКАЯ)
brilliant!
Se usa un elástico o banda o goma muy delgado que se tuerce más de mil veces para que se genere la fuerza tractora o torque.
Se puede adherir con pegamento diluido, idealmente usar un pegamento que no cambie su estructura física al secar o pegar definitivamente.
edo.
@gtaroblox101 the tail is slightly curved to the right or left
Thanx for the info Evan. I'll check out the Limited Pennyplane for a first off. :¬)
guao! TREMENDO
It makes me think of creating ghosts that show up in our World: They are there to see but they are made of shadows.