I'm perplexed as to why it seems the thing to do back then was smash windows, regardless of whether you were bored or not. I grew up in the 70s and left school in the early to mid 80s and I can't remember smashing windows as being the thing to do. Listening to them, it leads one to believe everybody was at it, smashing windows here, there and everywhere, 24/7! My official "careers advice" (from the poor teacher who drew the short straw to guide us for the rest of our lives back then) when I was 16 was, shall we say, rather brief but incredibly focused. I can distinctly remember the teacher saying to me something like "well it doesn't matter what I say, or what you say either, because there are no jobs out there and so you have no future. Sure, do well if you can, but it probably won't make much difference and if you can get a menial job paying some basic wage you should be lucky AND happy". Well that was about it - motivational speaking at its finest! That was Thatcher's Britain back then. He was kind of right to a point, but within 5 years we had a raging boom on our hands, just before we had a raging bust that is. Thing is, back then, even on a meagre wage, you could have probably bought a modest house with just one working, and brought up kids. I would love to know how these kids turned out, but even though they sounded a lost cause, there's a good chance some of them made a decent life for themselves as, for instance, a brickie. Trades people earn good money, so they may have been ok. Maybe some of them became glaziers - that would explain why they went round smashing windows all day!
I know what you mean. I grew up on a council estate in Camberwell in the 70s and I remember there was always broken glass everywhere. Windows and bottles just got smashed all the time. If you found a bit of wood or metal you would pick it up and smash something with it. If you didn't have a football that was just another way of entertaining yourself back then. Luckily, me and my mates started a band and we really got into music thinking we'd end up on TOTP. Haha
I left secondary school in 2009.There were lots of people who weren't academic, but knew they needed to find what their path would be and work hard at it. I still remember some of my classmates who thought they knew better at 16 years old: One of them is a drug dealer, the others you see still lounging around the betting shop from the time it opens till the time it closes. Some have been to prison. Not everyone will be thrilled by school, but it's the first place where you are challenged to work hard to achieve results. If you learn how to work hard, you'll be better off.
Really? I was not yet four and Play School age then! By the time I turned 15, it was 1985 and Live Aid era. So I am now 52; these kids are over 60 now!
This was my year at school but some teachers just stopped teaching something that today , I hope, they wouldn’t get always with.. big question is how the schools could just be able to do that. No one considered preparing children for life and life at work. Back then there was plenty of work about but those days soon ended..
I was born in 1970 and so much younger than you, Jackie. At the time of this footage I was under school age and careers choices loomed when I was 13 and above. I took my O Levels in 1986 and opted to leave school and join the YTS. By 1989 I got my first job and lasted 19 years before being made redundant!
How many 30 year olds do you know are at school and living at home?? The vast majority of mature students, 80%+, are part-time, while working in a paid job. Of which about 30% are using Open University, in thier own time. And further education is not free to the students as it was in 1970s.
@@JohnDoe-tx8lq Dozens from my high school class alone and I'm from a largely successful high school class. They occupy huge swaths of the retail and restaurant industries. You're the first person I know that is unaware this is a real problem.
@@ForzaJersey What do you define a 'largely successful high school class' if they are still at school at 30? What was 'largely successful' about them? And how can they be from "retail and restaurant industries" if they are still at school? Or why is it a 'real problem' if all these people are working in these industries? 😆
@@JohnDoe-tx8lq Most of my class graduated from college and do very well financially and professionally. Despite that we are aware of notable exceptions. The problem is that these permanent college students are working part time & making minimum wage. Hardly industry titans. Many of these people see non-college required careers as beneath them despite being academically mediocre and effectively trapped in dead end jobs. So they chronically attend community colleges or open enrollment colleges until they run out of financial aid. As long as they remain enrolled as a student they don't have to pay back student loans and the excess financial aid after tuition supplements their income. So, these students are basically using student loans to pay their bills today. Since you can attend college and get financial aid indefinitely as long as you pass your classes, they can remain college students from 18 to 30 and beyond.
The kid at 2:45 left school early to be a brick layer. He's now probably got his own successful building firm, nearing retirement and living a very comfortable life. Let's hope so anyway.
It's ok kids- with 50 years of working ahead of you, you'll have plenty of time to earn a meagre wage and wish you'd tried harder earlier on. Some of these kids may still be working today! Don't get old before your time.
@@praguhbis Capitalism is the reason one can afford the marvelous technology that allows one to post such complete nonsense from a lifestyle of such comfort and luxury unknown to even the richest and most powerful kings for most of the miserable history of humanity before capitalism.
The lack of ambition is staggering. Who do you blame the parents and the schools? I didn't enjoy school, but I worked hard to get the qualifications I would need in the future to get a good job. I left school 1973 and really enjoyed my career.
@@dreadfulspiller8766 class doesn’t prevent you from going to college. I was working class with immigrant parents so we were at the lower end even there but I still put the work in to at least try to get some qualifications
I would have been less than four at the time of this footage and so the school leaving age to 16 was going to affect me, as I was born in 1970. I left in 1986, having taken O Levels, and joined YTS training instead. These kids are much older than me and my brother Anthony, who was born in 1967!
@@crumplezone1 🤔Was he the young fella who left school to become a brick layer? He would have given the boss a headache. "Laying bricks, Putting bricks through windows. I wish you would make your mind up. We'll never get this house finished."
2:06 when you're 16 you're a grown man 🤔 Not quite kid, but it is a different school system than I grew up with in Canada where up until the 90's or 2000's you went till you were 18 (grade 12) or 19 (grade 13 - which you needed to get into University).
Penso che erano gli anni in quale i Pink Floyd (Roger Waters) facevano uscire l"album "The Wall" " we don"t need ,no educatiion , we don't need a school control.....poi gli anni '80..... Have a nice Sunday 🍀🌼🍀🎉
Qualche anno prima..1974 questo video. Gli anni dell'Inghilterra grigia e sporca. Sono proprio gli anni che ho vissuto io vicino a Londra dal 70 al 80.
(3:16) "I said I don't want to go school. You don't learn nothing." If you had have stayed at school, champ, you would have learnt to say, "In my opinion, I did not learn anything."
'If you had have'? lol "I'm not learning nothing" is what he said. He wouldn't say, "I did not learn anything" because officially at least, he hasn't yet left school. The situation is that he's been working as a brick layer when legally required to be in school. He'd rather be doing something practical and financially rewarding than sat in a classroom. Maybe due his nature/temperament, a disruptive environment, or low standards of education.
@@hazelwray4184 "lol" what? He should have, and could have stayed until he could have got the final paperwork. Had he have done that, he might have had a better choice of career paths when he was older. And learned how to speak the Queen's English.. Like we do In A straya 🇦🇺 😁👍Have a nice day.
@@DashDrones and? That’s in the range. It’s literally the decade or so of kids born after 1945. That said, think OP is unfair. They’re not entitled. It’s just school was useless for working class kids the way it was structured - if you weren’t going to college/Uni you were on the scrap heap. So why waste another year spinning your wheels in an institution that had already given up on you?
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I'm perplexed as to why it seems the thing to do back then was smash windows, regardless of whether you were bored or not. I grew up in the 70s and left school in the early to mid 80s and I can't remember smashing windows as being the thing to do. Listening to them, it leads one to believe everybody was at it, smashing windows here, there and everywhere, 24/7! My official "careers advice" (from the poor teacher who drew the short straw to guide us for the rest of our lives back then) when I was 16 was, shall we say, rather brief but incredibly focused. I can distinctly remember the teacher saying to me something like "well it doesn't matter what I say, or what you say either, because there are no jobs out there and so you have no future. Sure, do well if you can, but it probably won't make much difference and if you can get a menial job paying some basic wage you should be lucky AND happy". Well that was about it - motivational speaking at its finest! That was Thatcher's Britain back then. He was kind of right to a point, but within 5 years we had a raging boom on our hands, just before we had a raging bust that is. Thing is, back then, even on a meagre wage, you could have probably bought a modest house with just one working, and brought up kids. I would love to know how these kids turned out, but even though they sounded a lost cause, there's a good chance some of them made a decent life for themselves as, for instance, a brickie. Trades people earn good money, so they may have been ok. Maybe some of them became glaziers - that would explain why they went round smashing windows all day!
I know what you mean. I grew up on a council estate in Camberwell in the 70s and I remember there was always broken glass everywhere. Windows and bottles just got smashed all the time. If you found a bit of wood or metal you would pick it up and smash something with it. If you didn't have a football that was just another way of entertaining yourself back then. Luckily, me and my mates started a band and we really got into music thinking we'd end up on TOTP. Haha
I left secondary school in 2009.There were lots of people who weren't academic, but knew they needed to find what their path would be and work hard at it. I still remember some of my classmates who thought they knew better at 16 years old: One of them is a drug dealer, the others you see still lounging around the betting shop from the time it opens till the time it closes. Some have been to prison. Not everyone will be thrilled by school, but it's the first place where you are challenged to work hard to achieve results. If you learn how to work hard, you'll be better off.
These 15 year olds look like they're in their 30s!
Really? I was not yet four and Play School age then! By the time I turned 15, it was 1985 and Live Aid era. So I am now 52; these kids are over 60 now!
They look old due to the fashion, but I get what you're saying
I'd really like to see a follow up and see what happened with these kids.
"We don't need no Education.."
This was my year at school but some teachers just stopped teaching something that today , I hope, they wouldn’t get always with.. big question is how the schools could just be able to do that. No one considered preparing children for life and life at work.
Back then there was plenty of work about but those days soon ended..
I was born in 1970 and so much younger than you, Jackie. At the time of this footage I was under school age and careers choices loomed when I was 13 and above. I took my O Levels in 1986 and opted to leave school and join the YTS. By 1989 I got my first job and lasted 19 years before being made redundant!
Nowadays kids stay in school until they are 30 and they still live at home after. What happened?
How many 30 year olds do you know are at school and living at home??
The vast majority of mature students, 80%+, are part-time, while working in a paid job.
Of which about 30% are using Open University, in thier own time.
And further education is not free to the students as it was in 1970s.
@@JohnDoe-tx8lq Dozens from my high school class alone and I'm from a largely successful high school class. They occupy huge swaths of the retail and restaurant industries. You're the first person I know that is unaware this is a real problem.
@@ForzaJersey What do you define a 'largely successful high school class' if they are still at school at 30? What was 'largely successful' about them?
And how can they be from "retail and restaurant industries" if they are still at school? Or why is it a 'real problem' if all these people are working in these industries?
😆
@@ForzaJersey Are you American?
@@JohnDoe-tx8lq Most of my class graduated from college and do very well financially and professionally. Despite that we are aware of notable exceptions.
The problem is that these permanent college students are working part time & making minimum wage. Hardly industry titans.
Many of these people see non-college required careers as beneath them despite being academically mediocre and effectively trapped in dead end jobs. So they chronically attend community colleges or open enrollment colleges until they run out of financial aid. As long as they remain enrolled as a student they don't have to pay back student loans and the excess financial aid after tuition supplements their income. So, these students are basically using student loans to pay their bills today. Since you can attend college and get financial aid indefinitely as long as you pass your classes, they can remain college students from 18 to 30 and beyond.
What is this thing about smashing windows?
The kid at 2:45 left school early to be a brick layer. He's now probably got his own successful building firm, nearing retirement and living a very comfortable life. Let's hope so anyway.
Possibly if he had natural entrepreneurship
He would be retired by now 65+ years of age with a sore back
“Smash a few windows” 👌🏻 I did this ….sorry
It's ok kids- with 50 years of working ahead of you, you'll have plenty of time to earn a meagre wage and wish you'd tried harder earlier on. Some of these kids may still be working today! Don't get old before your time.
It is not the fault of the students, it is the Capitalism that pits you against each other. You are clearly ignorant of any facts.
@@praguhbis Capitalism is the reason one can afford the marvelous technology that allows one to post such complete nonsense from a lifestyle of such comfort and luxury unknown to even the richest and most powerful kings for most of the miserable history of humanity before capitalism.
@@praguhbis Where as socialism is a state where the workers pretend to work and the state pretends to pay them.
@@michaelsalt4565 1 million Covid deaths in "highly developed" USA. Almost no Covid deaths in CUBA. Awwww. So sad.
@@praguhbis You believe the information coming out of Cuba is credible?
The lack of ambition is staggering. Who do you blame the parents and the schools?
I didn't enjoy school, but I worked hard to get the qualifications I would need in the future to get a good job.
I left school 1973 and really enjoyed my career.
I'm guessing they are working class and had no chance of going to college so they give up. I dropped out as soon as I was 16 but I was being bullied.
@@dreadfulspiller8766 class doesn’t prevent you from going to college. I was working class with immigrant parents so we were at the lower end even there but I still put the work in to at least try to get some qualifications
@@moominmay You need money or be super smart to get to college and I had neither.
These boys reminded me to go to the bakers and pick up a loaf of Thick Cut!
I would have been less than four at the time of this footage and so the school leaving age to 16 was going to affect me, as I was born in 1970. I left in 1986, having taken O Levels, and joined YTS training instead. These kids are much older than me and my brother Anthony, who was born in 1967!
I would love to know what these kids are doing today.
Running the country
@@daflondon on a pension or dead
Jim is still smashing windows :)
@@crumplezone1 🤔Was he the young fella who left school to become a brick layer?
He would have given the boss a headache.
"Laying bricks,
Putting bricks through windows.
I wish you would make your mind up.
We'll never get this house finished."
Heroin, probably.
2:06 when you're 16 you're a grown man 🤔
Not quite kid, but it is a different school system than I grew up with in Canada where up until the 90's or 2000's you went till you were 18 (grade 12) or 19 (grade 13 - which you needed to get into University).
Deborah Meaden there at 3:50.
JET! Woo-ooh-ooh-oh-oo!
'Morning all!
I wonder if they are still smashing windows nowadays?
Penso che erano gli anni in quale i Pink Floyd (Roger Waters) facevano uscire l"album "The Wall" " we don"t need ,no educatiion , we don't need a school control.....poi gli anni '80.....
Have a nice Sunday 🍀🌼🍀🎉
Qualche anno prima..1974 questo video. Gli anni dell'Inghilterra grigia e sporca. Sono proprio gli anni che ho vissuto io vicino a Londra dal 70 al 80.
(3:16) "I said I don't want to go school.
You don't learn nothing."
If you had have stayed at school, champ, you would have learnt to say,
"In my opinion, I did not learn anything."
'If you had have'? lol
"I'm not learning nothing" is what he said. He wouldn't say, "I did not learn anything" because officially at least, he hasn't yet left school. The situation is that he's been working as a brick layer when legally required to be in school. He'd rather be doing something practical and financially rewarding than sat in a classroom. Maybe due his nature/temperament, a disruptive environment, or low standards of education.
@@hazelwray4184 "lol" what?
He should have, and could have stayed until he could have got the final paperwork.
Had he have done that, he might have had a better choice of career paths when he was older.
And learned how to speak the Queen's English..
Like we do
In A straya 🇦🇺
😁👍Have a nice day.
@@jasonayres "g'day mate"
if he had have stayed at school, he could say "I have have stayed at school" - are you sure?
@@danielbrown8556 "Have have"?
Where did you read that?
Alrighty then
Did he say 105 pounds surprised the whole family didn't jump on the bandwagon? 😉
In one month...bricklaying.
in africa we stay in school till 22💀
jammin on wings........meh
Typical boomers. Even at 16 they were self entitled.
As are many folk these days
Boomers? These kids were born in 1956.
@@DashDrones and? That’s in the range. It’s literally the decade or so of kids born after 1945.
That said, think OP is unfair. They’re not entitled. It’s just school was useless for working class kids the way it was structured - if you weren’t going to college/Uni you were on the scrap heap. So why waste another year spinning your wheels in an institution that had already given up on you?
They were factory fodder in a time of economic/industrial decline.
@@DashDrones Baby boomers: c1946 - c1964
GOT ARE BREXIT DONE ARE FUTURE IS BRIGHT JUST LIKE WHAT ON THIS VIDEO IS