The A pillar is the forward part of the car door and windshield. The B pillar is where the front and back doors meet the C pillar is the back of the back doors and back window shield and the D pillar are only found on SUVs. If the top of your seals have a opening where water can get in you need to cut a hole at the bottom of the seal so water can drain out.
Thanks for breaking that down! That’s really helpful info. I wish I knew that before… I suffer from not knowing and not caring enough to Google it… 😬 If I ever get new seals, I’m definitely keeping this comment in mind. Appreciate you sharing this!
First time viewer. Just wanted to say you are very good at this. Helpful, honest, with a nice calming effect. No upselling here. You are a natural my friend.
Can clearly hear that the hiss or treble range is reduced when you drive after installation of these seals so I would say that's a big advantage for sure.
These seals prevent wind noise from being generated. They are not about insulating the cabin from noise generated outside of the car or by the driveline/tires. Tesla could put these seals on from factory, but that would make it harder to sell the more luxurious models. This is how all brands do it, more luxury, less noise makes for a more expensive car.
For more sound reduction, get the seals that fit in the grooves on the roof and glass junctions. The 'glue' used on the rubber is the same product I have seen used on ALL aftermarket Tesla items. I had them, for example, on some center console covers. The red tape can be a REAL faff to get off! I am tempted to use an automotive glue on the un stick parts
I would not seal those ’holes’ or whatever the correct description should be spaced out along the doors . The simple reason is water which will get inside the doors need a way to drain out otherwise rusts will result starting from the inside of the doors. If you’ve driven old cars you will know what I mean.
It looks like a really good idea, I have some concerns when it comes to using it in a colder climate, though. Seals like that have a habit of freezing and getting ripped loose when you open the door. Silicone spray can help a bit, but for warmer climates this can probably be great.
exactly the problem I am having...I will say that if you buy from RPMtesla (ZERO AFFILIATION) they honor their stuff lifetime so they just sent me a full new set of the noise reduction kit free of charge (even though I installed the first time over 3 years ago!). I wish it made more of a difference but it is a touch better...but the wind noise at the top of the window still drives me nuts...I just crank the music to compensate. :)
I used on my model Y , unfortunately in Texas heat, the glue becomes a gel and most of these eventually fell off. They do indeed help with noise, also helps with dirt. I'll do again if I can find a brand using 3M adhesive
That’s interesting, I didn’t know cooler air could help with noise dampening too. Let me know if you end up getting the seals. I’d love to hear what you think of them!
Good video. However there are some technical issues concerning how sound is perceived and measured. You said that the cabin noise was half as loud, which is subjective. The dB scale is a log scale. A sound that is half as loud would measure 3dB lower; 3dB represents a 50% reduction in power. So -3db is a reduction to half power. But doubling the perceived sound level requires a 10dB increase. Your observation of about a 10dB change while taking the measurement is too large for a meaningful measurement and comparison. When you measure the noise you should do it on the same road at the same speed and in a similar amount of traffic. Most sound level apps and meter will have an Leq setting which gives you an average level over the measurement period. If you see a 3dB reduction when you compare the average Leq number you have a worthwhile result. A one dB reduction might be discernable to some people but it will not seem like much of a result. I suspect that what you have is more a case of new is better or wishful results. I could be wrong. If you know someone with the same year and model it might make an interesting comparison.
The Amazon page has pictures showing where the various pieces go (their labeling is a bit different from what I've seen people mean for the A-pillar / B-pillar, etc.)
What else you can do is check your tires. Bad tires can be very loud. There are even tires that are specially made to make a quiet rolling noise. Maybe that will help you.
You were supposed to clean the surfaces before you use the adhesion promoter. The adhesion promoter does what it says on the tin and you can buy it separately from 3M. The difference between these seals coming off in about a year or them staying on until they rot away like all rubber does on cars after 10-20 years is proper cleaning and using the adhesion promoter. I hope your seals stay on. If not, get genuine 3M double sided adhesive (the same as you have on now, with the red tape), adhesion promoter and redo the sealing with that, after properly cleaning both the car and the seals.
Thanks for the detailed tips! I’ll definitely look into getting some 3M adhesion promoter to make sure the seals hold up long-term. After cleaning the car of course. Appreciate you sharing the knowledge!
Did this on my model x and there was a noticeable difference. I did have some unsticking. I simply added some gorilla brand double sided tape, no issues since
Hello thanks for video. I have a question, after sealing implementation you tested same road but day and night have different noise conditions, do you believe was that good comparison?
23MY here. Anyone else get a rush of cold air on the drivers side just below shoulder height? I’ve found where it comes in, but anyone know if these help that draft?
@ There is a curve where the seal follows an indentation. I found that pulling the seal of of the metal so its not flush, but not too much that there is a gap between the rubber and metal is the compromise. In other words, the rubber seal is curved when seated “properly” but if you pull it off to essentially make it a straight line, that causes it to cover the gap.
I’ve heard the 2024 models have made big improvements with sound deadening compared to mine. I also recently realized my larger tires are contributing to more road noise, so that might be my next upgrade. It’s all part of my mission for a quieter drive. If only new tires weren’t so expensive!
@@james21ap1 What did that car cost when brand new? And what would be the cost of it brand-new today? If it's more than a 10k to 20k difference, then the comparison is invalid.
I wish all factors were the same. Same stretch of road, same traffic, same speed, same wind conditions outside, same humidity. Easiest would be to test it in a tunnel with no cars.
Wow. Even with the new seals it's a little louder than my 06 Volvo. Without an internal combustion engine you would think it would be _much_ quieter. Next step: Put sound dampener on the main panels (floor, roof, doors).
Sir....... You indicated 70 to 80 decibels on the initial drive. On the drive after installing, you looked at the decibels and decided not to tell us the number and just told us it said "quiet street" then mentioned that you didn't regret buying. This leads me to believe there was no significant change. We know Teslas are known for road noise. My impression: You don't want to make Tesla look bad with the road noise issue. You shot this content and don't want to waste it. So you'll try to make it look as good as possible without saying to potential customers "there's no significant change to the noise and theres nothing you can do about it".
Thanks for your feedback! I actually showed both decibel readings on screen so viewers could draw their own conclusions. The noise level went down by 3 decibels, which isn’t groundbreaking, but it’s definitely not nothing. I personally found the change noticeable and worthwhile for the price. I’ll keep your feedback in mind for future videos to make sure I’m as clear and thorough as possible. Appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts!
I haven’t noticed that with mine, and I’ve had them on for almost a month now. It’s possible the new seals might be overlapping, making them slightly thicker. I’d also recommend checking the placement to ensure they’re not interfering with any moving parts. Hope that helps!
@@ThroughTheEyesOfJesus Hi, I have the white interior too but cant find your video about the seatcovers ,, I was thinking of getting seatcovers to protect the seats abd the black ones you use look good with the white interior
Thanks for sharing your experience! I’m always looking for ways to make my Tesla as quiet as possible. Do you have any recommendations for other products or mods that could help improve the drive’s noise level?
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The A pillar is the forward part of the car door and windshield. The B pillar is where the front and back doors meet the C pillar is the back of the back doors and back window shield and the D pillar are only found on SUVs. If the top of your seals have a opening where water can get in you need to cut a hole at the bottom of the seal so water can drain out.
Thanks for breaking that down! That’s really helpful info. I wish I knew that before… I suffer from not knowing and not caring enough to Google it… 😬 If I ever get new seals, I’m definitely keeping this comment in mind. Appreciate you sharing this!
Someone beat me to it... cane here to explain the "ABC""s of car structure pillars... increment front to back.
Could have googled it 🤦♂️
@@beforebefore agreed, I was gonna tell hime the same thing
Same
I love the humility. "i know i said tomorrow, but it's been 2 weeks" 😂
Lmaoooo
First time viewer. Just wanted to say you are very good at this. Helpful, honest, with a nice calming effect. No upselling here. You are a natural my friend.
Thank you so much! I really appreciate you taking the time to watch and share your thoughts!
Can clearly hear that the hiss or treble range is reduced when you drive after installation of these seals so I would say that's a big advantage for sure.
road noise wont go away ever. Its a pretty minor change, especially for newer/higher trim level teslas, in my opinion. Road noise is inevitable
This is a real review...which i appreciate, since all of us are just like you feeling our way along...good job
It looks like a nice kit. The adhesion promoter is for use on clean paint. You really should have washed the areas before starting.
These seals prevent wind noise from being generated. They are not about insulating the cabin from noise generated outside of the car or by the driveline/tires. Tesla could put these seals on from factory, but that would make it harder to sell the more luxurious models. This is how all brands do it, more luxury, less noise makes for a more expensive car.
For more sound reduction, get the seals that fit in the grooves on the roof and glass junctions. The 'glue' used on the rubber is the same product I have seen used on ALL aftermarket Tesla items. I had them, for example, on some center console covers. The red tape can be a REAL faff to get off! I am tempted to use an automotive glue on the un stick parts
Thanks for the video. I'm getting the new Model Y next year, and I'll keep this video in mind.
I would not seal those ’holes’ or whatever the correct description should be spaced out along the doors . The simple reason is water which will get inside the doors need a way to drain out otherwise rusts will result starting from the inside of the doors. If you’ve driven old cars you will know what I mean.
Didnt realize you were local. Nice idea thanks
Same. I saw the kaukana exit and was like hey, I know where he is.
It looks like a really good idea, I have some concerns when it comes to using it in a colder climate, though. Seals like that have a habit of freezing and getting ripped loose when you open the door. Silicone spray can help a bit, but for warmer climates this can probably be great.
exactly the problem I am having...I will say that if you buy from RPMtesla (ZERO AFFILIATION) they honor their stuff lifetime so they just sent me a full new set of the noise reduction kit free of charge (even though I installed the first time over 3 years ago!). I wish it made more of a difference but it is a touch better...but the wind noise at the top of the window still drives me nuts...I just crank the music to compensate. :)
I might have to try them out depending on how long these last. Thanks!
I used on my model Y , unfortunately in Texas heat, the glue becomes a gel and most of these eventually fell off. They do indeed help with noise, also helps with dirt. I'll do again if I can find a brand using 3M adhesive
the cooler air in the evening helps dampening noise a bit too, but frequency wise definitely sounds less annoying I'm tempted now lol
That’s interesting, I didn’t know cooler air could help with noise dampening too. Let me know if you end up getting the seals. I’d love to hear what you think of them!
I did this to my model x and it made a difference. I custom made mine
I didn’t know that was an option. What did you use?
Good video. However there are some technical issues concerning how sound is perceived and measured. You said that the cabin noise was half as loud, which is subjective. The dB scale is a log scale. A sound that is half as loud would measure 3dB lower; 3dB represents a 50% reduction in power. So -3db is a reduction to half power. But doubling the perceived sound level requires a 10dB increase. Your observation of about a 10dB change while taking the measurement is too large for a meaningful measurement and comparison. When you measure the noise you should do it on the same road at the same speed and in a similar amount of traffic. Most sound level apps and meter will have an Leq setting which gives you an average level over the measurement period. If you see a 3dB reduction when you compare the average Leq number you have a worthwhile result. A one dB reduction might be discernable to some people but it will not seem like much of a result. I suspect that what you have is more a case of new is better or wishful results. I could be wrong. If you know someone with the same year and model it might make an interesting comparison.
The Amazon page has pictures showing where the various pieces go (their labeling is a bit different from what I've seen people mean for the A-pillar / B-pillar, etc.)
Nice job,I really think Tesla should do this standard !
Same!
They did on new model...
What else you can do is check your tires. Bad tires can be very loud. There are even tires that are specially made to make a quiet rolling noise. Maybe that will help you.
This didn't seem to cut the noise much for me, but worth it because it keeps sills clean.
For me, it helped reduce the wind noise a bit, especially on the highway, but I know results can vary.
The biggest noise comes from the tires.
If you want to significantly reduce noise, soundproof the entire car with acoustic mats.
My 2020 M3 roars with Michelin Cross Climate 2’s.😢
You were supposed to clean the surfaces before you use the adhesion promoter. The adhesion promoter does what it says on the tin and you can buy it separately from 3M. The difference between these seals coming off in about a year or them staying on until they rot away like all rubber does on cars after 10-20 years is proper cleaning and using the adhesion promoter. I hope your seals stay on. If not, get genuine 3M double sided adhesive (the same as you have on now, with the red tape), adhesion promoter and redo the sealing with that, after properly cleaning both the car and the seals.
Thanks for the detailed tips! I’ll definitely look into getting some 3M adhesion promoter to make sure the seals hold up long-term. After cleaning the car of course. Appreciate you sharing the knowledge!
can you make an update on how it lasts and if it peels overtime
Absolutely, I’ve been worried about that myself. I’ll see how it does during this winter when it gets below zero.
Did this on my model x and there was a noticeable difference. I did have some unsticking. I simply added some gorilla brand double sided tape, no issues since
That’s something to consider. How long have you had the seals on your Model X?
@@ThroughTheEyesOfJesus a little over a month
Now it‘s equipped like a propper car.
It is crucial to clean the surfaces thoroughly from grease and dirt! Acetone, Alcohol, ...
Acetone would damage the paint. Alcohol wipes are prefered
Thank you for this. Good to know.
It’s typically isopropyl alcohol or methanol.
Why was this not done at the factory in the first place?
Did you use a sound meter to see the difference?
Hello thanks for video.
I have a question, after sealing implementation you tested same road but day and night have different noise conditions, do you believe was that good comparison?
As he missed the forward-most seal, I guess results were pretty good. LOL
2:22 That was *not* the A Pillar...
Good job. Relevant……should help a lot of people
Thank you! I’m really glad you found it helpful. I hope it helps a lot of people too!
23MY here. Anyone else get a rush of cold air on the drivers side just below shoulder height? I’ve found where it comes in, but anyone know if these help that draft?
It’s a common issue with it. I took my car a few times in for service they tried to fix it but it’s just a design flaw.
@ There is a curve where the seal follows an indentation. I found that pulling the seal of of the metal so its not flush, but not too much that there is a gap between the rubber and metal is the compromise. In other words, the rubber seal is curved when seated “properly” but if you pull it off to essentially make it a straight line, that causes it to cover the gap.
The noise reduced 10% or 20% max!
Should come standard on all Tesla’s
I’ve heard the 2024 models have made big improvements with sound deadening compared to mine. I also recently realized my larger tires are contributing to more road noise, so that might be my next upgrade. It’s all part of my mission for a quieter drive. If only new tires weren’t so expensive!
Model 3 and Y are more noisy than S or X.
@ThroughTheEyesOfJesus Still noisy for an expensive car. My 1999 BMW 528i is still more quiet.
@@james21ap1 What did that car cost when brand new? And what would be the cost of it brand-new today? If it's more than a 10k to 20k difference, then the comparison is invalid.
if noise is the big problem for you, go for new model 3, they improved it dramaticaly!
Yea except a 2nd hand model 3 here is around 22k and a newer one is 60k....
Ya… I’m lucky to have gotten this car. It barely hit my max budget at 20k. A brand new one is out of the question for me…
@@ThroughTheEyesOfJesus Same. I am also selling my current car and getting into one of these but its not an easy find.
Lack of turn signal stalks is a hard no.
Hope you didn't get late for work 😂. I might do this install. Wonder if there's a version for model Y :)
They’re pointless and they will unstick. The cabin noise issue is best solved with sound deadening panels to stop road noise.
I wish all factors were the same. Same stretch of road, same traffic, same speed, same wind conditions outside, same humidity. Easiest would be to test it in a tunnel with no cars.
What is that cool knives called?
Rush deer knife. Best knife I’ve ever used: amzn.to/3OMCIwq
I’m wondering that too!
Nice video! How was the car driving itself without you being in the drivers seat? I thought FSD required you to sit in it?
👀
What year is your Model 3?
2021
Wow. Even with the new seals it's a little louder than my 06 Volvo. Without an internal combustion engine you would think it would be _much_ quieter. Next step: Put sound dampener on the main panels (floor, roof, doors).
Sir....... You indicated 70 to 80 decibels on the initial drive. On the drive after installing, you looked at the decibels and decided not to tell us the number and just told us it said "quiet street" then mentioned that you didn't regret buying. This leads me to believe there was no significant change. We know Teslas are known for road noise.
My impression: You don't want to make Tesla look bad with the road noise issue. You shot this content and don't want to waste it. So you'll try to make it look as good as possible without saying to potential customers "there's no significant change to the noise and theres nothing you can do about it".
Thanks for your feedback! I actually showed both decibel readings on screen so viewers could draw their own conclusions. The noise level went down by 3 decibels, which isn’t groundbreaking, but it’s definitely not nothing. I personally found the change noticeable and worthwhile for the price. I’ll keep your feedback in mind for future videos to make sure I’m as clear and thorough as possible. Appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts!
Is it harder for you to close your doors? I noticed I have to sorta slam mine close.
I haven’t noticed that with mine, and I’ve had them on for almost a month now. It’s possible the new seals might be overlapping, making them slightly thicker. I’d also recommend checking the placement to ensure they’re not interfering with any moving parts. Hope that helps!
@ that’s surprising given other UA-camrs have also noted that the doors need to be closed harder after installing
How you get black seats with the white trim package?
Seat covers. I made a video about it. One of the first ones I uploaded.
@@ThroughTheEyesOfJesus
Hi, I have the white interior too but cant find your video about the seatcovers ,, I was thinking of getting seatcovers to protect the seats abd the black ones you use look good with the white interior
Here’s the link to the video: ua-cam.com/video/BAoQpMDmNhg/v-deo.html. Let me know if you have any questions or if you decide to get them!
I saw no difference on my 2018 model 3, I wouldn’t put them on my 24 MY. Everyone hears what they want. 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for sharing your experience! I’m always looking for ways to make my Tesla as quiet as possible. Do you have any recommendations for other products or mods that could help improve the drive’s noise level?
price is $50 now...ha
Damn, inflation be hitting everything.
@@ThroughTheEyesOfJesus $30.... ok...$50 for some foam with adhesive on it... Ha, Joke
Buy proper cars......
The new 2024 M3 doesn't need that .....my M3 is factory quiet & silky smooth ...Quieter than any Rolls Royce that i have ever driven ......
I know!!!!! I can’t wait to get a used one in the next few years. I’m trying to make my current m3 as quiet as possible!
I have a 2024 M3. It's not bad on noise but it's not a RR; not even remotely close to a $200k ultra-luxury car.
A testament to the Chitty cars made by Ego Elon
They are pretty quiet without the sound deadening stuff, if you did this to a BMW it would quiet it more also.