I loved the vid. Thanks! I posted some things I wish to see, if you like some of my ideas feel free to take as much as you want and adapt it to your story
This reminds me, there’s this one question I always had about Android 18 why did Dr Gero keep her ability to reproduce? Because that seems like a pointless thing to keep on a teenagers turned killing cyborg that you kidnapped. I used to think the reason he kept this(and I know this would have been too dark for Dragon ball standards) was to turn any potential child she would have into a Android
Thats a really scary thought. But knowing Gero, who turned his own wife into an Android, I could see it! I think he wanted to keep them as human as possible and just added the programming and powerup. That could be a cool plot for a story, one where Gero survived and kidnaps Marron to turn into an Android?
I think it's because and I always assumed that he's like upgrading their skin and body and that rather than completely robotosizing them because Android 16 is kind of the full robot and he's different than the other Androids as well as they can grow more powerful so I assume they are like massively upgraded humans so he doesn't even need to think of removing that.
Here's an idea for a what if: What if Humans figured out how to make anti-ki weapons and equipment, around the aftermath of the Buu saga. I'm talking bullets that pierce through Ki barriers, exo armor that absorbs ki and vents excess out, swords that can actually disable healing properties, etc. It'd make normal Humans able to stand up against the gods in the way we've always done it: enginuity and guns. Plus the concept of Frieza getting capped by some thug with a Glock 'cause Frieza said "monkey" a few too many times makes me chortle.
The humans still have to train because even early master roshi was able to catch bullets and was faster than the human eye can see. How are you going to shot someone that is faster than light? And Ki absorption armour is useless because they punch without Ki and the force of the punch would kill them.
Humans are still weak and waaaay slower then even master roshi. Even with a gun like an ultimate nullifier from marvel or a Z sword, you'd still have to perceive fast enough and react fast enough (impossible for a regular human) to even catch the god and that blow wouldn't even be fatal enough maybe as to just give them a wound but they would still take your head off. It wouldn't make a difference in other words
If this tech only extends to weapons and the occasional EXO armor then humanity would probably be an amusing thing to some of the higher level fighters, now if they had something that could destabilize Ki, keep it from being used outside the body and prevent it from being used inside the body to enhance the user then yeah anyone who didn't know about humanity being able to do this would be in for a very rude awakening
3:20 Imagine if Vomi found out about Commander Red's wish to become taller with the Dragon Balls and realized that the death of her son is the shortstack's fault.
He would age like a Viltrumite if he was a android, and his potential would be insane. I can’t wait for this to get more parts. Frieza might be more interested in studying Goku over killing him. As blood thirsty of frieza is, he’s more interesting in what could benefit him, and his empire. Do not get me wrong Frieza would still want to kill Goku if he ended up beating Frieza, but it’s more likely he will take the same approach as he did with Broly, and will try to control him over killing him. If he still try to kill Goku it would be in away that will keep his body intact so he can copy the android technology, and give himself the same perks, and maybe some of his henchmen.
@@diablo.the.cheater and it’s just his face nothing to look at really that’s why salad sayian good at explains thing more in depth rather than just he beat him
This What if remake seems pretty interesting, I like how Gero has taken a somewhat father and son bound with Goku and how vomi is also included in the story!
3:50 Goku always going with the flow and I am surprised Gero didn't use the opportunity to psychologically torture him to madness or guilt trip him for murdering his son Gebo.
If there is a part 4 coming out soon... All I have to say is... he should be able to unlock SSJ with ease. knowing Vomi is actually the researcher in comparison to Gero.
2:22 I see that Smugstick used the tidbit from Team Four Star where Gero's son was one of the casualties suffered during the Red Ribbon Army destruction and his death was the reason why Gero created the Androids (and Cell) with the purpose of killing Goku.
It's canon. The new DBS Superhero movie also confirms this. Gero's son was called Gebo, who died when Goku launched his one man crusade on the Red Ribbon Army. Vami(Android 21's actual name, yes she's canon now as well) probably died before all that happened. In grief, Gero created Android 16 in memory of his son.
I've always loved the concept. My only issue is that I feel like Goku is bound to get so OP that some arcs wont happen. Energy absorption or infinite energy are broken in early DB/DBZ. I'm excited to see what you do with it though. Keep up the great work!
I think that would be better if goku just landed in red ribbon as a baby, would make better sense, also i think Gero's Wife died way before Gebo because she was really young compared to Gero.
I really enjoy this what if, because of Vomi/Android 21 is involved in this what if, i'm so glad that you're giving Vomi/Android 21 a lot of love and attention she deserves smugstick! i really enjoy Vomi/21's actual character so much since she's my #1 favorite female dragon ball character with 18 😊
Great video I want more, make him remember and slowly make Gero a little bit less evil but mostly the same, I also wish to see Goku studying under Kami and becoming earths protector / god along Kami creating a watcher + defender combo between the two and thus in some way carrying oe Dr. Gero's dream but in a peaceful not dominant way In the Namek saga I wish he rescued as much saiyan tech as possible from Frieza's ship to give it to Bulma For the android saga I wish Goku could save the Dr. and convinced both him, 16, 17, 18, and 19 to become good and to become part of capsule corp to improve earth's tech
Honestly, I would've enjoyed it more had Goku been captured by the Red Ribbon Army before he could destroy it. But overall, it's not a bad what if ^^ Most what if's always seems to have the Red Ribbon Army already destroyed, leaving Doctor Gero and his androids to pick up the pieces. He's a DBZ favorite, so it doesn't come as much a surprise.
I like the story it’s a change from all the stuff that everyone’s doing on the hyperbolic time chamber but I’ve got cougars chart and just to nice change I have to admit
The rise of the Red Ribbon Saiyan it's something about is admired as an interesting concept whether it's Goku becoming Android ,him willingly joining the Red Ribbon Army by meeting some members before Bulma, or members of the Army joining the Z Fighters/ Capsule Corp. One thing for sure the Red Ribbon Army has been a long time Earth enemy that's been at War with the some family for generations now ( first it was Goku versus the original human Army, then it was Gohan versus the Androids and Perfect Cell, and now Pan in both GT and the Superhero movie)
17 and 18 still had emotions. witch would leave the possibility for super saiyan open. and given how 18 and 17 have families I'd say he's still saiyan too
I like this. I imagine Goku would be an absolute powerhouse but he'd struggle to work with others due to cruel experimentation and much isolation. He'd have incredible potential but instead of him basically using very draining forms and techniques, how about you use the Big Gete Star as a way for him to develop as an android? It'd be an interesting narrative, just saying.
Huh? 🤔 So redoing this idea huh neat I don't remember the first one so it's good for me to watch this part. At first I was thinking Dr. Gero was going to change his way in this series, but as soon as you mentioned Gero erasing almost all of Goku's memory I went "Nevermind". Now I'm really hoping 21/Vomi can get Goku out of there. Anyways another really good start to this new series, and looking forward to the next part soon. What if suggestion: What if Future Gohan became an Android?
i dont know how i feel about this one, if android 21 saves goku and helps him restore his memories from before being captured bu gero then i would be happily surprised but rn its a bit early for a proper opinion
This is perfect imagine what a android goku is capable of infinite energy/stamina Energy absorbing nearly invulnerable Extremely powerful This is how many people want to see a part 2 keep up the great work 👇
Bloody hell, goku has that powerful influence, though too bad his sayian instinct came up to be influence by them. Well oddly find it unique compare total the others. I wonder if we would get gebo back with the dragonballs?
Part 2 is now out: ua-cam.com/video/PmHVUZoUc8A/v-deo.html
Pretty cool tbh!
Definitely an interesting idea, can’t wait for part 2 of Goten and trunks Beerus planet training coming out Thursday!
I loved the vid. Thanks! I posted some things I wish to see, if you like some of my ideas feel free to take as much as you want and adapt it to your story
You should seriously do what if Android 21 was canon smugstick 🙏
@@princejamerson1 Someone did that already.
This reminds me, there’s this one question I always had about Android 18 why did Dr Gero keep her ability to reproduce? Because that seems like a pointless thing to keep on a teenagers turned killing cyborg that you kidnapped. I used to think the reason he kept this(and I know this would have been too dark for Dragon ball standards) was to turn any potential child she would have into a Android
Thats a really scary thought. But knowing Gero, who turned his own wife into an Android, I could see it! I think he wanted to keep them as human as possible and just added the programming and powerup. That could be a cool plot for a story, one where Gero survived and kidnaps Marron to turn into an Android?
@@SmugStick wait Vomi was actually android 21? I thought 21 was a Android who simply had her appearance?
@@hattoripool1533 I think it's weird but most likely possibly her body at least is highly possible.
I think it's because and I always assumed that he's like upgrading their skin and body and that rather than completely robotosizing them because Android 16 is kind of the full robot and he's different than the other Androids as well as they can grow more powerful so I assume they are like massively upgraded humans so he doesn't even need to think of removing that.
@@SmugStick no? Wasn't 21 her own person? I thought gero made her look like vomi as a memento just like 16.
Here's an idea for a what if:
What if Humans figured out how to make anti-ki weapons and equipment, around the aftermath of the Buu saga.
I'm talking bullets that pierce through Ki barriers, exo armor that absorbs ki and vents excess out, swords that can actually disable healing properties, etc.
It'd make normal Humans able to stand up against the gods in the way we've always done it: enginuity and guns.
Plus the concept of Frieza getting capped by some thug with a Glock 'cause Frieza said "monkey" a few too many times makes me chortle.
The humans still have to train because even early master roshi was able to catch bullets and was faster than the human eye can see. How are you going to shot someone that is faster than light? And Ki absorption armour is useless because they punch without Ki and the force of the punch would kill them.
@@technine967 Here comes SSB Goku getting shot through his heart because he was caught off guard, it's definitely possible
chortle 💀
Humans are still weak and waaaay slower then even master roshi. Even with a gun like an ultimate nullifier from marvel or a Z sword, you'd still have to perceive fast enough and react fast enough (impossible for a regular human) to even catch the god and that blow wouldn't even be fatal enough maybe as to just give them a wound but they would still take your head off. It wouldn't make a difference in other words
If this tech only extends to weapons and the occasional EXO armor then humanity would probably be an amusing thing to some of the higher level fighters, now if they had something that could destabilize Ki, keep it from being used outside the body and prevent it from being used inside the body to enhance the user then yeah anyone who didn't know about humanity being able to do this would be in for a very rude awakening
3:20 Imagine if Vomi found out about Commander Red's wish to become taller with the Dragon Balls and realized that the death of her son is the shortstack's fault.
She would probably be violently pissed.
She would revive him only to murder him again, but by her own hands
smugstick isn't just one of the best DB what if youtubers, he's the BEST of them all.
he's my favorite
I hope that you enjoyed the video and thank you!!! :)
Facts I can’t wait for part 2 I’m really enjoying this what if I love it
Callmearj
I like how Gero has softened in this story and isn’t an absolute evil force anymore
He would age like a Viltrumite if he was a android, and his potential would be insane. I can’t wait for this to get more parts. Frieza might be more interested in studying Goku over killing him. As blood thirsty of frieza is, he’s more interesting in what could benefit him, and his empire.
Do not get me wrong Frieza would still want to kill Goku if he ended up beating Frieza, but it’s more likely he will take the same approach as he did with Broly, and will try to control him over killing him. If he still try to kill Goku it would be in away that will keep his body intact so he can copy the android technology, and give himself the same perks, and maybe some of his henchmen.
I really thought we weren't going to get another part of this. I'm really happy you're remastering this!
I hope you enjoy! This one is different but there is more of a chance for future parts!
@@SmugStick I would love to see more parts
Jesus this is why Smugstick is the best story teller in the community- good ideas and excellent storytelling
i think the amagi is one of the best what if teller they are very unike other peoples
You watched callmearg
I'd say he's on par with Masako X as i feel like smugstick takes alot of inspiration from the what if's Masako has already done.
@@robomarston8253 the problem with masako is that masako voice acting is kind of cringy, while smug voiceacting is quite good.
@@diablo.the.cheater and it’s just his face nothing to look at really that’s why salad sayian good at explains thing more in depth rather than just he beat him
This What if remake seems pretty interesting, I like how Gero has taken a somewhat father and son bound with Goku and how vomi is also included in the story!
3:50 Goku always going with the flow and I am surprised Gero didn't use the opportunity to psychologically torture him to madness or guilt trip him for murdering his son Gebo.
If there is a part 4 coming out soon... All I have to say is... he should be able to unlock SSJ with ease. knowing Vomi is actually the researcher in comparison to Gero.
2:22 I see that Smugstick used the tidbit from Team Four Star where Gero's son was one of the casualties suffered during the Red Ribbon Army destruction and his death was the reason why Gero created the Androids (and Cell) with the purpose of killing Goku.
I'm almost certain that this is Canon, team four star just produced a scene for 16.
It's canon. The new DBS Superhero movie also confirms this.
Gero's son was called Gebo, who died when Goku launched his one man crusade on the Red Ribbon Army. Vami(Android 21's actual name, yes she's canon now as well) probably died before all that happened. In grief, Gero created Android 16 in memory of his son.
No, he died of gunshot, not Goku's rampage. Gero made it clear he hates Goku for destroying the army, not his son.
@@MinhLe19303 Aye, Goku really screwed the pooch there by being the reason why Gero lost his son.
I've always loved the concept. My only issue is that I feel like Goku is bound to get so OP that some arcs wont happen. Energy absorption or infinite energy are broken in early DB/DBZ. I'm excited to see what you do with it though. Keep up the great work!
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I like when they get op
@@Muslim16572 You either get BS on how the arcs still happens or boringness,pick.
Goku only tires from damage and ki usage. With the second out the window, god knows how op Goku will be
@@Muslim16572 No
What if the Bardock and Gine and Bardock's crew members, Paragus and Broly survived and went to earth with Goku?
Wonder what 21 is staring at in the thumbnail
I think that would be better if goku just landed in red ribbon as a baby, would make better sense, also i think Gero's Wife died way before Gebo because she was really young compared to Gero.
I really enjoy this what if, because of Vomi/Android 21 is involved in this what if, i'm so glad that you're giving Vomi/Android 21 a lot of love and attention she deserves smugstick! i really enjoy Vomi/21's actual character so much since she's my #1 favorite female dragon ball character with 18 😊
Masaco X made this one and it was very short and to the point. So I look forward to this new approach as well.
i’ve been waiting for someone to do this one
Great video I want more, make him remember and slowly make Gero a little bit less evil but mostly the same, I also wish to see Goku studying under Kami and becoming earths protector / god along Kami creating a watcher + defender combo between the two and thus in some way carrying oe Dr. Gero's dream but in a peaceful not dominant way
In the Namek saga I wish he rescued as much saiyan tech as possible from Frieza's ship to give it to Bulma
For the android saga I wish Goku could save the Dr. and convinced both him, 16, 17, 18, and 19 to become good and to become part of capsule corp to improve earth's tech
Seeing as Goku would be made a cyborg after Eighter, would this technically make him 009?
Honestly, I would've enjoyed it more had Goku been captured by the Red Ribbon Army before he could destroy it. But overall, it's not a bad what if ^^
Most what if's always seems to have the Red Ribbon Army already destroyed, leaving Doctor Gero and his androids to pick up the pieces. He's a DBZ favorite, so it doesn't come as much a surprise.
Definitely need to see more of this one , fantastic job you never disappoint!!!!
I like the story it’s a change from all the stuff that everyone’s doing on the hyperbolic time chamber but I’ve got cougars chart and just to nice change I have to admit
Oh you need to make this a series. I actually enjoyed this story
We need part 2
The rise of the Red Ribbon Saiyan it's something about is admired as an interesting concept whether it's Goku becoming Android ,him willingly joining the Red Ribbon Army by meeting some members before Bulma, or members of the Army joining the Z Fighters/ Capsule Corp. One thing for sure the Red Ribbon Army has been a long time Earth enemy that's been at War with the some family for generations now ( first it was Goku versus the original human Army, then it was Gohan versus the Androids and Perfect Cell, and now Pan in both GT and the Superhero movie)
I like this. Like is goku gonna be evil ish? Can he still transform? IS HE STILL A SAIYAN?! So many questions
17 and 18 still had emotions. witch would leave the possibility for super saiyan open. and given how 18 and 17 have families I'd say he's still saiyan too
@@lewismartin3430 then that only will make this what if even more interesting
I like this. I imagine Goku would be an absolute powerhouse but he'd struggle to work with others due to cruel experimentation and much isolation.
He'd have incredible potential but instead of him basically using very draining forms and techniques, how about you use the Big Gete Star as a way for him to develop as an android? It'd be an interesting narrative, just saying.
Saiyan potential plus the addition of android techniques is going to make this a good story
5:25 Red Ribbon Goku has a nice design, Smugstick
I like this version/story. Keep up the good work. I’m curious to see what happens with the saiyans
Yo was wasupp smugstick 👋🏽
Next should be What If Raditz was turned into an Android. Maybe even a replacement for Cell Max.
To be honest this is a great idea it's awesome it's one of the best what ifs I have ever seen of though of I can't wait to see how far it goes
I knew I remembered this one, last one didn't go too well, let's hope with more subscribers people will like it 👍
Scrolling down, UA-cam, suggested videos, then seeing the thumbnail for this and going “WTF”……”NEVER EEVN THOUGHT OF THIS…..sweeeert”
This looks good. I hope you post the one you teased on patreon soon. “What if goku and vegeta escaped with their families.”
Im happy you had a cloth on Goku in the thumbnail
You should have definitely done a version where Goku was just treated like a slave because I feel like that would be pretty accurate
I've been waiting for something like this!!
Goku got them ABS
I would love to see more of this! This is great so far!
Also I hope this somehow leads to the humans staying more relevant power and story wise
This dude started one of the biggest what if series on UA-cam
SMUGSTICK! YOU BETTER KEEP THIS STORY GOING!
This could easily become a redemption story for gero. All you need to do is revive gebo and bada bing bada boom. Good doctor gero
Oh shit there's a bot in the replies.
Edit: I'm referring to the one above me.
@@sabersroommate8293 look at this clown above ya. Beep boop lookin ahhh
Huh? 🤔 So redoing this idea huh neat I don't remember the first one so it's good for me to watch this part. At first I was thinking Dr. Gero was going to change his way in this series, but as soon as you mentioned Gero erasing almost all of Goku's memory I went "Nevermind". Now I'm really hoping 21/Vomi can get Goku out of there. Anyways another really good start to this new series, and looking forward to the next part soon.
What if suggestion:
What if Future Gohan became an Android?
This story is better than the og one
Thank you!! I’m glad that I decided to go back and redo it because I’m happier with how this one turned out
@@SmugStick I agree with you it's filled with more details then I remember
Is this going to be a 1 episode thing? I hope we get a part 2 keep up the great work!
I always love to watch your videos because you work so hard on them
This series bout to be lit🔥🔥🥵
Great what if idea👍🏽👍🏽
Nice video
In that thumbnail android 21 was probably looking at that Saiyan shmeat
just noticed this was posted less than an hour ago dang it i cant wait for next part
Awesome video android goku that's cool
I like these videos
i dont know how i feel about this one, if android 21 saves goku and helps him restore his memories from before being captured bu gero then i would be happily surprised but rn its a bit early for a proper opinion
This is pretty cool! Can u please make another part? I would REALLY love it.
Pls give us part 2 the story is rly interesting tbh
Great what if, however now I understand why MasakoX changed Vomies name for his what if xD
I really wanna see more from this what if.
This is perfect imagine what a android goku is capable of
infinite energy/stamina
Energy absorbing
nearly invulnerable
Extremely powerful
This is how many people want to see a part 2 keep up the great work
👇
Can he still transform or gain UI?
@@Fugitive685 every mortal can achieve ui even androids
Not me thinking this was a part2 and being hyped for 3 days
goku could not sense ki at that time he only learned that after kamis training
I would like to see if Goku would marry Android 18 in this story
I hope King Piccolo's body, is turned into an android.
I definitely wanna see more of this
Wooooo that’s what I’m talkin about baby woooo
Please can you make part 2 and thanks for your video and keep up the good work and good luck in the future video 👍 👏👏👏🙏
You betcha! Thanks for watching as well :)
dahm that was interesting .. kinda wanna know what's next coming!
Smug stick: Dr gero said this............ Subtitle: dr dero deez nuts
yeah I like this concept, its new
I Wanna See More.
Really good video one of my favorite what ifs goku will be overpowered ngl
I am ready for the next one!
Please give us a part 2!
I wonder how different this will be from Sacred Saiyan's.
Kid Goku looks so cute in this
This is a great story I would like to see more of this story
In this scenario Dr. Gero made him forget his friends and family. 😢
The fact he be talking like the dbz narrator the start of every what if
Android 21 in the thumbnail looks like: CHECK THIS GUY OUT
i love your what if videos they are good
Bloody hell, goku has that powerful influence, though too bad his sayian instinct came up to be influence by them. Well oddly find it unique compare total the others. I wonder if we would get gebo back with the dragonballs?
Should've taken Piccolo's egg with back to Gero's.
Very interesting
Yo this is pretty dope.
Keep this one going very interesting twist in a long time
*thumbnail*
Imagine the package Android Goku has underneath the blanket with Android 21/Vomi checking out.
When you realise Android 21 is like 10 years old. (Unless you mean Vomi)
goku would be half android half saiyan and that sounds too op
very intresting
how tf did you comment 4 days ago
@@jeddy2925 idk
what the
@@jeddy2925 could have had some sort of early access to the video
@@Unfunny_08 but there's only early access for patreon
I feel like android 21 would touch him inappropriately
Yo who's the shoddy Mic VA for Vomi? I don't see the links in the description to her.
It was really amasing
Wai-..Didn't He Already Do This What-If..?
This..Video Seems Familiar
Very intresting series!
I have a idea for the next what if. What gohan actually did die in the majin buu saga
Lit I always wonder about a Saiyan android 🔥🔥🔥
Nice