how to master finger control: the flamingo method
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- alternate title: how to meditate in osu
isolating a skill is the best way to improve it, so here's a mapset I made for drilling different length bursts! in the video, I explain how I use this mapset to train finger control with my off-finger. personally, I start patterns with my index finger, so I use this mapset to practice starting patterns with my middle finger. enjoy!!
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note: you can also replace the mp3 with a 220 BPM song, thanks darz for pointing this out
I like seeing people use practice methods that I recommend, so I encourage you to send me screenshots of your local scores / progress on this map if you'd like!! you can post them in my discord server @ / discord or dm me anywhere you can reach me :D
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THE FLAMINGO METHOD.
bruh you made the map
@@sohcahleed habib made it i only uploaded it!
thanks again for uploading LOL we are in this together
mango
@@honmi did you have koasty upload it just so your profile would remain at zero forum posts lol
i control my finger with my brain and thus i train my brain using brain trainer nintendo 3ds.
I HAD A BRAIN
@@smsyodas I HAD A
@@DTJump I HAD
@@qx1b681 I
@@nori6836
Missed the opportunity to call it the "Haitai Method"
I started playing osu at the very end of March 2021, and I've been using this mapset since the day I started; all I can say is that this song is so ingrained into my head that I've dreamt about it on multiple occasions...
Oh and I think that it might have helped me progress much faster finger-control wise, but I don't really have a before and after comparison lol.
oh what the heck, that's super cool LOL thanks for sharing!!
now we all can have shige finger control let's gooo
@Ao _ It's been 2 years. Are you closer to shige aim now
@@daiyas_3596 probably quit osu
@@axel3689quit w
@@axel3689 quit w?
How many shrimps do you have to eat?
before you make your skin turn pink
eat too much and you'll get sick
shrimps are pretty rich
DU-DU-DU-DU, DU, DU-DU, DU, DU, DU , DU
Nande aitsura wa pinku?
Doubutsu-en de omou to pinku
tabe mono de, sou nanda
sorry to break the chain but don't flamingos start off white or something?
this map finally cured my insomnia and now it puts me to sleep faster than any other method. thank you!
Playing this map is making my brain overload. It is so difficult to stay on a rhythm and keep my fingers moving how I want them to despite having a full alternating playstyle. I have a long road ahead of me...
How does it goes?
@@_Lp44_ I stopped playing for some time but I started back up again recently. I gave up on the flamingo method here because it was far too frustrating to play for me. I have made progress though.
@@crow3817 as long as you hit the first note perfectly on time you should be able to stick to the rythm until you run out of stamina
I wish I have a friend like Hypno
I wish I had friends
@@floppaosu trueeee
I wish i had osu friends :(
Hypno is everyone’s friend
FeelsStrongMan
@@floppaosu I HAD
I used to ignore low bpm maps and on top of that I singletapped them up to 280 bpm 1/2 or 140 bpm 1/4. Even after I started working on low bpm maps I always singletapped flamingo's bpm (220 1/2 or 110 1/4) because it was comfortable for me so when I discovered this map it was really tough for me to alt and I couldn't even comprehend the gaps between 110 bpm doubles tapping way too early as a result. The first session of playing it (a week ago) I got 46, 50 and 60% not even being able to fc it. At that point I thought "god why did you choose the bpm THIS low?" but I took it as a challenge. 4-5 sessions later I got my first B rank on it with ~85%. However I wasn't in the mood to play the game much so I can't say anything about any effects of this map yet as in how it helps with other maps. I assume it will improve my UR on patterns involving both fingers and will make me fingerlock less
Also I want to thank you for everything you do for the community. You're a godsend
yay! this was a really nice comment to read. thank you for always being active around here and sharing your stories, assistance, and kind words :D
It's been ages, I know, but here's some ancient musician lore. Playing slow is harder than playing fast. If you can master playing slowly, your ability to play precisely at higher tempos will improve dramatically.
@@totally_not_a_botthe guy that said if you can olay it slowly you can play it wuickly was onto something
This actually works ridiculously well. I played the 2 stack map for maybe 5 minutes then played a map that just happened to have 2 stacks and they were super easy.
Great video as always hypno!!! For the settings part you can just type "score" and both settings you mentioned will appear
Great video, I've been playing mania to practice finger control for osu standard.
Funny you say that, I played std for finger control in mania with trills lmao
this works too! I remember trying to play 4k mania with only my osu tapping hand (index-middle-ring-pinky) to train finger control/independence, but that was many years ago haha. might try it again and see how it can help
@@honmi yeah playing 4k one-handed is actually a thing but it's really hard yet a lot of fun. Since I like playing 7k I also play 4k one-handed (using thumb instead of pinky imitating 7k gameplay) and it definitely helps with both 7k and finger independence. to make things even more difficult you can try playing LN maps I believe they're probably the best for finger independence
I did the same thing but I almost surpassed my standard profile on pp
@@7kenjoyer dam I didn't think of that. I struggle with 7k so this might help thanks.
been looking for a training map like this for a while, thanks for this vid
omg ive been looking for a map like to practice for like forever . thank you so much for sharing the method
220 BPM also works for replacing the song
oh this is true, I should mention this in the description. ty!
yomi yori? in putris stagnum?
Tip: Don't play this map after your stamina training session, you will probably be too tired for this
When I do that I usually fall asleep
Nice profile picture
this is wild, I had this map set in one of the packs I got, played it, was a bit lost, started looking up more to do with bursts and streams, and BOOM this is literally the map that lead me here.
Thanks for that finger control map. I am starting to practice now by singletapping all back and forth.
Thanks a lot for this, i always played high bpm streams and couldnt control anything under 190bpm, this helped my control a lot and i can play both mid bpm and high bpm together a lot better now
That skillset is surely one of the most underlooked, nice video !
i cant even hit anything wtf
If you're really struggling with getting into this make the maps AR higher just to get the timing then lower it back and try again, worked really well for me, i got 25% the first time and then on my second my acc jumped to 67%
Amazing video and map! I guess it can also help with learning to full alt on triples and bursts because it is much easier to learn on a map with only them
Idk if this is gonna work but for people who don't like plain straight forward practice maps try doing DT on 3-4 star maps- or doing DT on maps that have 2 note stacks. Some maps at 3-4 star involve the stream type of section ig. Idk if it works but for me i did see an improvement even if it's little but it's worth a shot atleast. Everyone improves in different ways after all and it's not just one particular way.
Do note tho: DT'ing other maps can go above 200bpm so i wouldn't exactly recommend doing this if you haven't experienced some high bpm maps first. Might burn your fingers straight off.
Edit: the reason why i would think this work is kinda bc some maps really just Forces you to alternate at perfect intervals that's why i thought it would work. It prob. Isn't practically and if you really haven't experienced high BPM i wouldn't recommend doing it. Ik it's not practical pls don't attack me for it it's just my version of doing finger control. Idk if it can apply to other people.
I played dt on hard maps for fun and the improvement in my acc was massive. I was getting 95% on above od 9 before but now I can easily set 98% acc score.
thank you for this. this is exactly what i needed.
I let my brain go autopilot when playing osu
It feels weird when I can't feel myself
You get used to it soon
i play osu while being half asleep
yeah me too but i rarely get good acc when i use auto pilot my best acc is hitorigoto hd dt 10 miss
new aspect of the osu! Iceberg:
we dont play it, we just watch as we improve on autopilot most of the timd
God tier content, thanks for the upload!
Thank you, I been wanting this kind of how to video recently
this is making me train 7k and i always wanted to be able to play 7k, thanks.
i've been playing this mapset a bit since last week and while i'm slowly getting the hang of doubles, i can't get a hang of the triples even though i feel like i'm decent at triples in normal maps. i know it's hard to give advice without seeing actual gameplay but is there anything obvious i could be missing in regard to playing triples?
Great set and great video btw!!!
@BestOfAnime idk about that. I feel like that would give you better rhythm sense but idk if it would actually help you in real maps. There's not a lot of scenarios in a real map where you can put all of your focus into the rhythm of a map. You always have to read and aim along with it. If someone has really poor rhythm sense this could help them out but if you're even a little competent in following the rhythm you should probably practice like Hypno described
Try tapping consecutive triples in notepad at the speed you're comfortable with. It will help you to get the hang of it
pay close attention to the inconsistencies in your taps on the hit error graph. each triple has 3 circles, so each triple creates 3 lines on the graph. pay attention to what order those lines appear in. watching your own replay can help you with this, because it's sometimes hard to see these things while also playing.
anyway, for example, if the 2nd hit of every triple tends to be early every time compared to your 1st and 3rd hits, that could tell you that you need to be more deliberate in the movement of your "other finger" when doing the second tap, rather than just kinda .. pressing it down "at some point" between the 1st and 3rd taps".
hopefully that sort of makes sense as to how you can go about analyzing your own hit error graph / tapping inconsistencies, and of course, as you mentioned, if you'd like to send a replay and/or talk to me about this more, feel free to dm me or catch me on stream :D
@@honmi Thanks so much for the thorough response!!! I'll try it out and get back to you, thanks again for everything you do x_x
omg thank you i didn't know i was so bad with my non dominant finger
Now i was wondering why he was playing this map for like hours on stream 😂🤣
Redbirdgames
Redbirdgames
I've started playing with my ring finger instead of my middle finger and i was almost instantly way more accurate, especially with streams after struggling with that for a while. I recommend it!
same
My ring finger is the numbest finger I have lmao I cant do nothing with it
Thx for the video, now i can pass the first part on Dum Surfer with hidden
i don't know what demoniac powers did you put in this map but its driving me insane (i have 2 tries)
don't give up!!
me: mom i want flamingo by yonezu kenshi
mom: we already have flamingo at home
flamingo at home: I EAT SHRIMP
You can also master finger control by playing mania mod. It also give you an idea just how accurate your tapping and rhythm sense is. The only con is that it doesn't train your stamina very well since you'll be using both hands to play
Some people may have a trouble to adapt with this technique tho so keep that in mind
2k mania time
I play both gamemodes and i kinda feel like it didnt really help
I literally cannot even play this godamn flamingo map, literally just cannot fathom it
@@UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal how long have you been playing?
@@user-mc2lg4iw9e I started playing mania on like april of 2020 and im only rank 60k, i dont play much osu or mania anymore so that might be the reason
Oh also i just changed the AR to get the timings right, lowered it right back and managed to get a 65% on the first diff, i really just couldnt get the timing of notes before doing that
thanks man this is really helpful
Learning to full alternate is also a good way to master finger control since it requires a lot more finger control than single tapping alone. You are also training both of your fingers to adapt to tapping no matter what happens. Jumps, bursts, streams, basically everything. You use both of those fingers for that.
yes this is true, but the way I see it, if your ability to start with finger 1 is way better than your ability to start with finger 2, you'll need to bring finger 2 up to speed first before continuing with full alt (or at least you'll want to)
is it bad that I can only full alt? I never singletapped from the moment I learnt that you need to use the keyboard for osu, and I was told alternating is good so I have always done so-
today people tell me it's bad that i alternate low-ish bpm jumps especially 1-2 jumps, however I see no problem with it so far lol
@@potato4687 It's actually good. His recent videos (in the lets play series) tells you that you can start with both fingers comfortably. Single tappers will usually have a harder time starting with their other finger, so it will be a lot harder to tap awkward patterns.
@@potato4687 Not to say singletapping is bad though. Some people who singletap can hit awkward patterns just fine.
time to mcosu this to 360bpm so i can ss everything will freeze
Thanks for helping me help myself!
My brain would stop working and proceed to singletap it.
just saying, that 11 stacks method had an optical illusion effect on my eyes. when i exited the map everything looked like it was being sucked in
aa LOL yeah that's why I say to use hidden
Playing muse dash with your osu! Fingers works really well aswell
secretly he's training us on ar4hd so we all sucking at low ar too
luv the alternate title1
Why am I getting 100's on literally every tap, I hear the click perfectly on tempo with the song and it just feels like it should be a 300 but constant 100's and I don't know why.
Awesome video! Do you think you could make a video on reading and rhythm. I find myself able to aim every note of a map but end up missing tons of times everywhere randomly cause I just tapped way too early, cursor goes over the circle, tap and nothing happens and I just miss. Also tons of note lock too because of that
sure! I'll note the idea down. thank you for the suggestion!!
@@honmi Sweet, thanks :)
i havent even cracked into the higher difficulties in the set but now when i play easier songs my error rate is so low the blue bar starts looking white, gotta verify the flamingo method works!
Now this song stuck in my head
this makes me hallucinate like the optical illusions
my eyes after playing this beatmap
The flamingo method is very effective. Try doing a few sessions and I think I get better little by little. But, I had a hard time figuring out the beat. What should I do?
Edit: I can figure out the beat now and my tapping is better than before. Thank you for your method : )
how did you find the beat , if you still remember.
Thanks, so much you are the best.
that hepled so much.
yesss i love practice mapsets WE NEED MORE EGG PAIN
Me who cannot play Hidden: Well, fuck
gonna play this for next week, my UR usually around 350-450 so yeah, hope it will go down drastically(THe sad thing is that i have 160 hrs already but still really bad at streams and low bpm stuff usually i spam it or singletap)
It's been a week, it was really fun(pure suffering) but feels like i'm getting better overtime with this kind of training, firstly i started to feel more comfortably with stacks of 2 and 3 on maps(before i just spammed shit out of them XD), and low bpm stream. It felt like i'm actually controlling what i'm doing, unique experience i would say,Secondly UR lowered a bit but still far from what i would like to have(before: 4 star maps UR ~350, After: UR 190~ at easy 4 star maps, 220-280 at hard 4 star maps). Also, it's really hard to go against the way you always played, the amount of frustration i got at the beggining was immense, but i was able to get over it.
I got 600 hours and i cant fc 4 stars ;-;
@@threetos4882 wow, kinda strange, since when did you start playing osu?
@@threetos4882 genetics maybe, play more
your videos are like gems
HOW TO EVEN PLAY THIS
what about adding dt for higher BPM? and hr for more realistic ar's? you could do it on osu!lazer and keep the CS at 2.
Nice another training drill 👍🏼
i literaly can touch only the first note lol, i just dont understand the rythm to tap it. Any tip ?
check the map in the editor to see the rhythm, and maybe also watch the map with Auto mod
@@honmi oh will try it out thank you !
also when u miss a note how can i do to go back again cause rn if i miss a note on the map its over i cant touch a note anymore ( i managed to hit more than a note lol but still 123 is quite a lot i think xd)
@@flayhender7914 the notes are slightly separated, you can move your cursor to the next burst you want to hit when you're trying to get back on. but if you start mashing, it won't work
@@honmi yeah i figured waiting a bit and start hitting again was the only thing i can do for now
"couldn't tolerate the song"
"changed it to flamingo"
based
After I play the map everything is moving
Hi there, Habib. Personally i start bursts/streams with my middle finger and it feels more natural to me cause i just can't start them with my index after jump sections. Do you think it is a problem for me and i need to learn how to start bursts/streams with my index? I'd say i want to become speed player, so your opinion could help. Thx in advance, great vid and map!
yeah i have the same technique
im currently working on starting doubles/triples with my index so that in case i encounter a difficult pattern (especially when youre singletapping and suddenly encounter a triple but you cant stop yourself from starting the 1st note with your index) i am probably more likely to hit it
I am not a high ranking player therefore you should take this opinion with a grain of salt but practicing different methods of tapping might help you in the long run
yes, it would help your finger control a lot if you're able to start bursts/streams with your index finger as well, especially for improving speed
@@honmi thank you very much!
@@honmi damn it is hard tho :D head messes with fingers "with which finger should i start this burst" , just blocks them completely. It is fine tho, just gotta play more i think and it'll come naturally
when i finish warming up with this everything is moving
use hidden
i played the last diff without hd and tried looking around everything was wavy and my vision was fucked and now i feel nauseous pretty cool optical illusion map
What are you talking about and what is finger control?
watch osu phd
Just to confirm, is this supposed to train like alternating tapping between your two fingers? or is it like singletapping for each?
i think i am beat deaf
staring at the stack:11 map for too long made my walls look like they were closing in on me
:p that's why you use hidden!
Here before 1million
Epic video
This is Pog
The map is tripping me out bro XD
if you dont use hidden and play the flamingo maps it makes ur vision go all weird
are you meant to alternate between single-tapping once on both fingers or alternate with a quick double-tap on both of them. I'm still a bit confused. I'll def keep practicing the map as i feel is the best way. I just really want to know is all. :)
use both fingers consecutively, don't singletap the bursts. you should play them like slow bursts (like doubles, triples, etc.), not fast bursts of singletapping. like ZX ZX ZX / XZ XZ XZ for doubles or ZXZ ZXZ / XZX XZX / ZXZ XZX etc. for triples. hope that helps
i see. That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for letting me know. :)
while doing this is it okay to move your hand between the two taps(like single tapping)?; or otherwise.
Yooo wtf play this map with nomod and if you stare long enough at the patterns you get this weird hallucinations. Anyone else having this?
Im a decent player but i struggle with burst streams
if u get very good at the map set do u think it would be a good idea to use osu trainer to speed it up and start training finger control at speed, same with DT but osu trainer is obviously a lot better for gradual improvement?
no. it defeats the purpose of the map. he intentionally chose a 110 bpm song (as in bpm this low) because of how much finger control it requires
if you get "very good" at the mapset then sure, nothing is stopping you. but it would likely be better to just start training other tapping methods at the same bpm instead. for example, if you get very good at this mapset while starting everything with your index finger, try also getting good at it while starting everything with your middle finger, or perfectly alternating, or switching your fingers randomly. that'll keep you developing your fundamental finger control even more than if you were to just speed it up a bit
damn. nice vid dude +1 sub
this is exactly what i nead :)
I need this, definitely (same reason as you)
THIS SHIT IS GODLY! thank u so much bro on god.
@honmi I was a 7 digit when I made this comment. after a year and some months I'm now sitting at rank 32k. I just wanna say thank you since you definitely played a nice chunk in helping me. stay blessed bro.
I dont get that map tbh Im trying it but am I supposed to feel the rhtythm? Like Im paying attention to the bar at the bottom but Im mostly missing all of the notes ?
thanks
My brain taps to a rhythm so my music goes to 0%
Hey Habib! Jafeto here and I hope this Flamingo Method really helps me out. As an inconsistent time-gaming player I can say it's been frustrating going from e.g 220bpm 80UR to *smashing* on 170bpm 200UR and I've shown no results of improving at all for around a month or longer. Gonna be posting some screenshots on this comment and see what the result is o/
Day 0: Before even watching the vid
i.imgur.com/QYXlzsT.jpg
I think I have a very similar problem to yours
I thought you'd post your scores on flamingo over time but it's something else. What are your first plays on flamingo doubles?
Yeah I will post flamingo but just wanted to show a "rough" status of my current skill
1st play is basically this one: i.imgur.com/0UJBDl9.jpg
I wanted to get used to the timing of 110bpm as the "normal" flamingo (mapped by Nerova) is more like 220bpm jumps and bursts.
I'd singletap everything that's under ~130bpm so trying to alternate actual 110bpm is somewhat weird for me
@@jafetabal4222 yeah my comment says something very similar. I've never alted this bpm so I had big double getting used to flamingo but it's much better now. For further challenge you can try doing triples diff with another dominant finger once you get comfortable alting them with your main finger
Good luck on recovery!
Day 1: After messing around in some maps this was the result
i.imgur.com/WTydtcx.jpg
And this is how I finished the 2 stacks
i.imgur.com/FwrDmcg.jpg
Tried triples but had some fingerlocks (main middle finger wouldn't hit the 3rd note)
i.imgur.com/HsX3gji.jpg
*Couldn't hit anything beyond the triples
-Side note: Used osu! trainer to increase the bpm up to 175bpm and felt the strain at around 2/3 of the map
i.imgur.com/vaUN5iU.jpg
Can't find the rhythm for this, feels really off even if I try to lower/increase offset. just feels weird to play even if I really want to practice on it or maybe I'm just really bad at ar4
maybe watch it through with auto to get a sense for what it should sound like if you're playing it right. the point is not to look at the circles but the UR bar at the bottom, so the AR shouldn't matter at all
@@honmi tried on a 220bpm map, and moved the circles further away from each other but still in a square and worked way better, but I guess that kinda ruins the point of not moving the cursor or looking at the circles but managed to at least do 2 stacks this way but still hitting most things really early. so pretty sure its just StackLeniency or noteblock that fked things up for me ? Im a full alt player so don't think im clicking things wrong at least ?
edit: well managed to play the normal 2stack a bit now, but still lose the rhythm so easy on the flamingo song
@@Nekololizu exact same problem here!feels so off that i cannot play it, weird enough is better for me without hidden at least i have some reference. T_T after a year did u get better?
@@ashura_amane8499 i had some better results on it, but prefer just playing random maps instead
only second to the "clock technique"
what in the world is the clock technique LOL
@@honmi LMAO its a reference to the show Sex Education on Netflix.
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im new to osu, how did u get the 2 stacks right, I cant time it right its so hard
i have a question so when do you know that's the right time to press is?
what do you base it off of?
the approach circle?
the timing of the song?
the feeilng that it is the right time to press it?
the approach circles in no mod are just there as reference to help u know when to time it, but never use it as a direct indication. u should get used to it based off of the music which is why hidden is such a praised mod for helping u actually get used to the thought of "playing to the beat" rather than to the approach circles. once u are good with that and ur accuracy is always good, then naturally you would have a great sense of what feels right, since what feels right will be based off the song. as for me, I don't even actually look at the approach circles directly without HD, I just see an approach circle, know the speed and listen to the song, and already look at the upcoming circles to click
@@patootie3529 thank you so much!
i always got confused that cleared my mind
I dont even know how to get into the rythm at the start. low Ar is unplayable
Could you clarify what you mentioned about muscle memory? What should we be doing to ensure we're building good muscle memory?
XD
I assume he meant making sure your fingers move in a smooth motion one after another and making sure their movement is as consistent as possible instead of kinda mashing especially when it comes to streams. One of the bad habits is galloping with your fingers which is more like doing doubles even on streams rather than streaming
by muscle memory I meant that over time, you'll get more and more used to that certain motion of your fingers, and it'll start feeling more natural. if you're talking about how I said to leave your aim hand where it usually is, well.. if you try putting your aim hand somewhere else, you might see what I mean. it just feels different. it's a similar difference to moving your mouse with your other hand on your lap vs. moving your mouse with your other hand on wasd / qwer
I am a full alternator player, this will be useful to me as well?
PS: I already test and the last dificulty is the only the serves for me but cause a effect on my brain and its like i'm very high wtf kkk, I will use hidden.
it can be useful to you even if you fully alternate, watch osu phd (finger control section) for more info
I am a player that never single taps and only alternates. My dominant finger when it comes to starting streams and double is my middle finger. How should I use this training when it comes to "the dominant finger?" Do I split each pass between each finger? Or do I practice, lets say for a month, until I feel comfortable with one finger and then switch to focusing on the other? Or do I change the dominant finger in the middle of the map? I know I shouldn't focus on just one finger, so how do I effectively split the training between both my fingers?
I'd say to start with the finger you're least comfortable with, so in your case, your index finger. in short, you should just be doing whatever you're least comfortable with so you can bring that style up to speed with everything else. once you start feeling equally / more comfortable with your index finger than your middle finger, you can start going back and forth, or even doing other weird, random combinations of movements with your fingers. hopefully that helps!! thanks for the comment
appreciate it man :)
i alternate so idk if this will help me much but its still good, thank you
Yeah I pure alternate as well and it was pretty hard to do :/