I've been doing Wado Ryu Karate for going on two years, and you pretty much went over my game plan for sparring in this video. By the way, I've watched your videos for a couple of months and I've started incorporating some of your Dutch Kickboxing techniques from other vids. I've seen a lot of improvement in sparring. People back up a lot more haha. I appreciate it.
I hope I am not giving away all your secrets then ha ha. Seriously though, I am really made up to hear you have both been enjoying the vids and found them of such great use in your own training. That is exactly why I put all the effort in with this channel, in the hope that the content is of use to people! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment, I hope you continue to enjoy all the videos going forward!!
Great video! Coming from a taekwondo background I use back kicks, jumping back kicks and attacks from the front leg to counter leg kicks. It is all about timing.
Michael Venom Page, Raymond Daniels, and Stephen Thompson are experts at this but use them all differently. Page is typically very low-volume and waits for the KO counter, Daniels is much more ready to throw crazy far range techniques, and Thompson uses combinations.
Great to hear, as I said in this video, I do tend to put labels on things at times (I am a list kind of person) in order to try and help people understand concepts etc more. Kickboxing is kickboxing but just like music, there are different rhythms, aspects etc which can be really good to cross train between!!
Great stuff. In free style there are basically two main stances. Forward stance for "blitz", which is a fast hand attack. It is forward to allow both hands to be used and also to being able to block the possible side kick counter. The second stance is a side ways stance presented in this video, that is being used for long range kicks. A good point fighter combines these two stances seamlessly. When distance closes in he changes to "blitz" and when the distance is longer he changes to side-ways. A classic combo would be a side kick from the side-ways stance, return leg to forward stance and continue with hands.
For sure, what you suggest is definitely the typical approach for a freestyle fighter who comes from the semi contact mat arena. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment, really cool to hear you enjoyed it!
Great stuff... here, there & everywhere (on this channel). Good, spot on explanation/demonstration on whatever the subject matter. One of my Top UA-cam discoveries in 2016! Keep up the great work!! Thank You!!!
I just found out that my style is freestyle kickboxing, I always felt more elusive/defensive than Muay Thai and more long ranged that Dutch Kickboxing; even that I don't knew that this style existed until yesterday that I stumble upon a Venom Page interview. As a right handed southpaw I have a very good jab and a very good lead kick, so this style is perfect for me, as I can gain some power on my rear (weak) hand/kick with the spinning motions. Is true, I have difficult time figthing in the pocket, and my response to that is going to clinch and throw some knees (and body shoots), until I can sweep down my opponent or push him to regain my posture/distance. Anyways, thank you so much for this tutorial, you don't know how much this reassure me as a fighter.
I am not sure if it is a real term to be honest, it is just something I call this particular style of kickboxing. It is definitely not a bad thing per se though and is well utilised by a increasingly large number of fighters from across a number of different combat sport platforms. What interview were you reading? Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment, I am really glad you enjoyed it!!
Stuart Tomlinson here, this was the interview (is kinda old), but I just found it. www.mmafighting.com/2014/11/2/7147183/technique-talk-michael-venom-page-goes-from-freestyle-to-six30
Top shelf, man. Thanks for this excellent tutorial. I can't wait to incorporate these into my practice. Please keep up the good work. It is not widely available and very much appreciated. Cheers.
Not a problem, really glad you enjoyed it! There are some really excellent instructors on this channel so I do think a lot of it would not get seen without being put on here, hence why I put the work in.
Great tutorial, don't see many freestyle lessons on here. I have been training freestyle kickboxing for several years. I look forward to seeing the video on hand techniques .
Great tutorial. It's hard to find good advice on adapting this for the ring. Transfering to low kick/k1 and holding on to some of your read and butter techniques isn't easy
Thanks, that is exactly why I put the tutorial together, Just to show how it can be adapted. I tend to mix my sparring between this, Dutch style kickboxing and more traditional Muay Thai. All are styles I enjoy in the right contexts!!
Point Karate for the win!!! ✊ Lol Raymond Daniels is an inspirational fighter I wish we could see him in MMA. Is it possible to show a good way a Karate-ka or point fighter could add elements from boxing, kickboxing etc. to improve their game as well?? Awesome content Mate!
Awesome to hear, I am really glad you enjoyed this. I do think that there are obvious cons to utilising this kind of a stance/approach when low kicks or clinch is allowed BUT, there are times where it can certainly pay off in a big way! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!
Great video mate very knowledgeable too,seen as I train sport karate all moves I know but believe me not tippy tappy kicks if got power kick lead side can be very devastating,and better for spin kicks and counter cross punch,but definitely weak things in side stance is leg kicks,but if train Muay Thai to can deal with that problem,it's very good for sidekick to knee stomp to
Thanks, appreciate the kind comment! I have been training in Martial Arts for over 20 years now and my main styles have always been Karate, Kickboxing and Muay Thai. Although I have done a fair amount of grappling and wrestling as well, I would consider striking to be more my forte so to speak!
Nuh Abdulaahi what i do is i turn my upper body so that i am open for boxing. And still am able to lean back whenever kicks come high or i have to dodge punches with different type of headmovement for example. Hope this helps you man
It is a good question but in my opinion, this and true Muay Thai are nearly pretty much polar opposites with regards to the stance. Because of the nature of Thai, you have to keep a shorter, more forward based stance due to the knees and clinch aspect of the rule set. Being able to switch between the two is often what causes people problems. K1 or Dutch Style kickboxing is as close a time as you will see a hybrid, where you see low kicks and knees alongside the side kicks. They will however have to transition their stance regularly in order to do this, no one single stance can effectively utilise all the different attacks effectively. Hope this helps!
Darren Till is a good example of someone who was really good at Muay Thai and adopted a more bladed stance. I'd say shifting between the two stances for different situations would work. Do what works for you
David Ryger Personally I like standing more bladed because I like fighting on the outside at a distance and also I feel like I can move in and out a lot faster. Ever since I started training that's been how I was taught to stand though. I started in boxing in 2000 and it was a bladed stance that they taught me. I feel like I have more range of motion for head movement also. A lot of lefties do tend to stand bladed honestly I couldn't tell you why lol. I'd guess it's something to do with the angles for you guys. I'm orthodox myself but find this stance most comfortable. A lot of people get weirded out I use this stance and style but I'm a HW lol
David Ryger training with point style karate or even TKD guys would definitely help you out. If you can find a good boxing gym that teaches from a more bladed stance that would work wonders for your hands and head movement as well. Good luck and keep training!
i definitely enjoy this sytle since im more of a kicker. it is very much tae kwon do or karate. im trying to use a hybrid between this and muay thai when i train sanda. can you please do some sanda/sanshou tutorials
Hello Stuart I luv your channel the warrior collective its awesome bro PS you look a little bit like The k1 legend Andy Hug.....no disrespect. Your channel is awesome keep it going I look forward to more stuff from you through out 2018 PEACE stay blessed
I agree with you, in some styles this is more of a turning side kick as opposed to a traditional back kick. You say Tomato I say Tomato ha ha. I am glad you enjoyed the video irrespective of any faux pas with the names ;-)
but i do agree its more powerful and useful than general back kick in kick boxing or mma but I am in taekwondo and that kick hard to connect in tkd . cung le is my favorite he also does it this way
Different styles call it different things. A back kick.. a short back kick. Spinning side kick. Reverse side kick.. like he says tomato tomarto. Same thing with 360 turning kick. Tornado. Wirl wind. Still the same. Mantu. You practice tkd. . The back kick is one of the most successful kicks in tkd. Up close or distance. It works...
I've been doing Wado Ryu Karate for going on two years, and you pretty much went over my game plan for sparring in this video. By the way, I've watched your videos for a couple of months and I've started incorporating some of your Dutch Kickboxing techniques from other vids. I've seen a lot of improvement in sparring. People back up a lot more haha. I appreciate it.
I hope I am not giving away all your secrets then ha ha. Seriously though, I am really made up to hear you have both been enjoying the vids and found them of such great use in your own training. That is exactly why I put all the effort in with this channel, in the hope that the content is of use to people! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment, I hope you continue to enjoy all the videos going forward!!
Great examples of an art that a lot of people have forgotten about. Speed kills!
Great video! Coming from a taekwondo background I use back kicks, jumping back kicks and attacks from the front leg to counter leg kicks. It is all about timing.
Michael Venom Page, Raymond Daniels, and Stephen Thompson are experts at this but use them all differently. Page is typically very low-volume and waits for the KO counter, Daniels is much more ready to throw crazy far range techniques, and Thompson uses combinations.
Great video!
Love these kickboxing tutorials, especially the ones focusing on Dutch kickboxing!
Great to hear, as I said in this video, I do tend to put labels on things at times (I am a list kind of person) in order to try and help people understand concepts etc more. Kickboxing is kickboxing but just like music, there are different rhythms, aspects etc which can be really good to cross train between!!
Great stuff. In free style there are basically two main stances. Forward stance for "blitz", which is a fast hand attack. It is forward to allow both hands to be used and also to being able to block the possible side kick counter. The second stance is a side ways stance presented in this video, that is being used for long range kicks. A good point fighter combines these two stances seamlessly. When distance closes in he changes to "blitz" and when the distance is longer he changes to side-ways. A classic combo would be a side kick from the side-ways stance, return leg to forward stance and continue with hands.
For sure, what you suggest is definitely the typical approach for a freestyle fighter who comes from the semi contact mat arena. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment, really cool to hear you enjoyed it!
Stuart your skills are just awesome bro :) Great tutorial as always
I like! Beautiful stance & technique i'm gonna practice this a lot
Great stuff... here, there & everywhere (on this channel). Good, spot on explanation/demonstration on whatever the subject matter. One of my Top UA-cam discoveries in 2016! Keep up the great work!!
Thank You!!!
I just found out that my style is freestyle kickboxing, I always felt more elusive/defensive than Muay Thai and more long ranged that Dutch Kickboxing; even that I don't knew that this style existed until yesterday that I stumble upon a Venom Page interview.
As a right handed southpaw I have a very good jab and a very good lead kick, so this style is perfect for me, as I can gain some power on my rear (weak) hand/kick with the spinning motions.
Is true, I have difficult time figthing in the pocket, and my response to that is going to clinch and throw some knees (and body shoots), until I can sweep down my opponent or push him to regain my posture/distance.
Anyways, thank you so much for this tutorial, you don't know how much this reassure me as a fighter.
I am not sure if it is a real term to be honest, it is just something I call this particular style of kickboxing. It is definitely not a bad thing per se though and is well utilised by a increasingly large number of fighters from across a number of different combat sport platforms. What interview were you reading? Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment, I am really glad you enjoyed it!!
Stuart Tomlinson here, this was the interview (is kinda old), but I just found it.
www.mmafighting.com/2014/11/2/7147183/technique-talk-michael-venom-page-goes-from-freestyle-to-six30
Excellent, thank for that!
Thank your brother, I'm going to watch all your videos now.
Top shelf, man. Thanks for this excellent tutorial. I can't wait to incorporate these into my practice. Please keep up the good work. It is not widely available and very much appreciated. Cheers.
Not a problem, really glad you enjoyed it! There are some really excellent instructors on this channel so I do think a lot of it would not get seen without being put on here, hence why I put the work in.
That was brilliant, thanks alot, from a greater Manchester british military martial arts freestyle karate Club member.
Grate tutorial. I'd like to see more of this tag kickboxing.
Great tutorial, don't see many freestyle lessons on here. I have been training freestyle kickboxing for several years. I look forward to seeing the video on hand techniques .
love the side kicks!
Thanks, they are not for everyone but I have always loved using them!
Great tutorial. It's hard to find good advice on adapting this for the ring. Transfering to low kick/k1 and holding on to some of your read and butter techniques isn't easy
Thanks, that is exactly why I put the tutorial together, Just to show how it can be adapted. I tend to mix my sparring between this, Dutch style kickboxing and more traditional Muay Thai. All are styles I enjoy in the right contexts!!
Love your videos mate
Point Karate for the win!!! ✊ Lol Raymond Daniels is an inspirational fighter I wish we could see him in MMA. Is it possible to show a good way a Karate-ka or point fighter could add elements from boxing, kickboxing etc. to improve their game as well?? Awesome content Mate!
Fantastic tutorial. I hope I can use these during my next sparring match!
Very nice technique!! :D Thanks!!!!
Great vid, thanks. love incorporating more traditionally tai Kwon doe techniques wth my muy thai
Awesome to hear, I am really glad you enjoyed this. I do think that there are obvious cons to utilising this kind of a stance/approach when low kicks or clinch is allowed BUT, there are times where it can certainly pay off in a big way! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!
Great vid
Great video
Thanks, that is great to hear you enjoyed it!
Thank's a lot .very nice and technical.
Great video mate very knowledgeable too,seen as I train sport karate all moves I know but believe me not tippy tappy kicks if got power kick lead side can be very devastating,and better for spin kicks and counter cross punch,but definitely weak things in side stance is leg kicks,but if train Muay Thai to can deal with that problem,it's very good for sidekick to knee stomp to
Very nice explanations, what's your martial arts background Stuart?
Thanks, appreciate the kind comment! I have been training in Martial Arts for over 20 years now and my main styles have always been Karate, Kickboxing and Muay Thai. Although I have done a fair amount of grappling and wrestling as well, I would consider striking to be more my forte so to speak!
is there like a "hybird" stance that combines the side stance with Muay Thai stance
Nuh Abdulaahi what i do is i turn my upper body so that i am open for boxing. And still am able to lean back whenever kicks come high or i have to dodge punches with different type of headmovement for example. Hope this helps you man
It is a good question but in my opinion, this and true Muay Thai are nearly pretty much polar opposites with regards to the stance. Because of the nature of Thai, you have to keep a shorter, more forward based stance due to the knees and clinch aspect of the rule set. Being able to switch between the two is often what causes people problems. K1 or Dutch Style kickboxing is as close a time as you will see a hybrid, where you see low kicks and knees alongside the side kicks. They will however have to transition their stance regularly in order to do this, no one single stance can effectively utilise all the different attacks effectively. Hope this helps!
Darren Till is a good example of someone who was really good at Muay Thai and adopted a more bladed stance. I'd say shifting between the two stances for different situations would work. Do what works for you
David Ryger Personally I like standing more bladed because I like fighting on the outside at a distance and also I feel like I can move in and out a lot faster. Ever since I started training that's been how I was taught to stand though. I started in boxing in 2000 and it was a bladed stance that they taught me. I feel like I have more range of motion for head movement also. A lot of lefties do tend to stand bladed honestly I couldn't tell you why lol. I'd guess it's something to do with the angles for you guys. I'm orthodox myself but find this stance most comfortable. A lot of people get weirded out I use this stance and style but I'm a HW lol
David Ryger training with point style karate or even TKD guys would definitely help you out. If you can find a good boxing gym that teaches from a more bladed stance that would work wonders for your hands and head movement as well. Good luck and keep training!
Very informative and thank you:)
i definitely enjoy this sytle since im more of a kicker. it is very much tae kwon do or karate. im trying to use a hybrid between this and muay thai when i train sanda. can you please do some sanda/sanshou tutorials
Where's the video of hand techniques for this stance?
Hello Stuart I luv your channel the warrior collective its awesome bro PS you look a little bit like The k1 legend Andy Hug.....no disrespect. Your channel is awesome keep it going I look forward to more stuff from you through out 2018 PEACE stay blessed
For the side kick, do you step then chamber your kick, or chamber youe kick 1st then push the other leg to step in?
Can you post a new video on shadowboxing
could you do an analysis video on andy hug's fights ?
I have actually never done an analysis video (may well have a try of one at some point) but if I did, Andy would definitely be a worthy subject!!
Stuart Tomlinson yeah it would be awesome to see analysis on andy if you want to make one... thanks for your response.
Old school style of kickboxing derived from karate is different than muay thai especially low kicks, knees, elbowz and clinch
Every style has its weakness, this stance isnt any worse than other stances, seen as a whole.
what is freestyle kickboxing
great tutorial but thats not a back kick its a turning side kick
I agree with you, in some styles this is more of a turning side kick as opposed to a traditional back kick. You say Tomato I say Tomato ha ha. I am glad you enjoyed the video irrespective of any faux pas with the names ;-)
but i do agree its more powerful and useful than general back kick in kick boxing or mma but I am in taekwondo and that kick hard to connect in tkd . cung le is my favorite he also does it this way
Different styles call it different things.
A back kick.. a short back kick. Spinning side kick. Reverse side kick.. like he says tomato tomarto.
Same thing with 360 turning kick. Tornado. Wirl wind. Still the same.
Mantu. You practice tkd. . The back kick is one of the most successful kicks in tkd. Up close or distance. It works...
why dislike
"until he trains with Tong Po" i think you mean fight.
Never heard of freestyle kickboxing...
сколько пустого разговора!!! я не хочу рассказов, покажите много раз с разных ракурсов, а это дерьмо смотрите сами