Does it help or hurt to wipe the oil off your ball each shot? Very interesting
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I completely agree. I think the oil absorbing rate on these balls are so high you don't need to wipe the oil back onto the ball
I’ve often bought about this myself. Think about the amount of FLARE on the ball and consistency….think about it…
less track=less oil being “picked up” on each revolution.
MORE track=more oil being picked up because it’s rolling over a different part of the ball on each rev
I truly believe LESS track will lead to less oil being “picked up” and, ultimately, a more consistent roll and less moving left on the lane. More accuracy. Less movement and adjustments.
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You may very well be onto something here. I've experienced this myself as well. There's been so many nights in league where my shot is reacting differently down lane.
I wipe my ball off after every single throw. I honestly feel like I have to wipe it off after every shot. I feel like it would make more sense for me to bowl in my socks without
my bowling shoes on then it would be for me to go a few shots without wiping the oil off my ball. Long story short on nights where I'm struggling there's been several times
I end up getting frustrated. When I get frustrated I start to no longer care about my pre-shot routine. I suddenly won't care to wipe the oil off my ball, and I suddenly don't care
about my approach or backswing being perfect. I basically just pick up my ball and immediately start walking up the approach and throw my ball. Often times when I do this
I suddenly start striking over and over and over. Never sure why, I always assumed it was just because I was eliminating many of the mental aspects of the game. Instead of
worrying about my approach, my slide, my backswing, etc. I just throw the ball the way I know how and it does exactly what I want it to do. But perhaps it has nothing to do
with any of that, and it's actually just because I stopped wiping the oil off my ball during these times that I'm enraged. Well aw' be damned!
This makes total sense to me. I also think, what you wipe your ball with has an effect too . I was getting a better reaction when I was using a shop towel. I bought a balling ball shammy and now I'm bowling like I have no clue what i am doing.
Seems to make sense, but I would be hesitant due to the long term maintenance ramifications when all that oil soaks in. And as far as "not everybody has the luxury of drilling new balls", I would think that's about 99% of us.
Doesn’t make sense. Your ball sits in the rack until your next turn, with oil on it. You wipe it off, then roll it 15 seconds later and get oil on it again, then it sits until your next shot.
This exact thing you mentioned happened to me tonight in league.
I was using my Widow Purple Urethane. In warm up it was striking, but as players with resin broke it down in warm up my Purple started reading the lane so early I got trapped in over/under.
If I missed outside the ball died out instantly and never came back, but if I missed inside it never hooked. Totally extreme blocked house shot. I shot 148.
In Game 3 I decided to stop wiping the ball and let the oil build up on it. Now the ball cleared the fronts and was getting up the lane and driving hard. Shot 254!
I never wiped my ball off, I felt it read the lane better with the oil left on the ball, sort of thought like it meshed better with the lane itself. Watched other players wipe there ball off after every shot and didn't have as good of a reaction as I did, just my thought on it thanks for bringing that subject up appreciate it.
I don't wipe my ball when I am bowling on a short pattern or when there is an excessive amount of hook. In this case I keep the oil to help limit the reaction especially as the pattern breaks down. Other times I wipe my ball after every shot as many others do. I am going to try this next time I play. If I master it, I think it is a great tool to have with you for when you need to control the ball's reaction at the end of the pattern.
Thinking the same thing, but my only question I ask my self is.. If it starts to hook to much, do I consider wiping it or change balls?
Will try it today in a local league torunament... Believe this can make the difference for U/O reaction. Update: played my best line ever (277), no cleaning the ball at all! This is a huge paradigm shift for me; Thanks for the tip!!!
He just let the cat out the bag. Nice
This is a thought I’ve had as a pretty inexperienced bowler, but someone who approaches things more analytically. I noticed some throws weren’t nearly the same after wiping my ball and eventually it just looked like oil was where my ball didn’t roll at all down the lane, so I just thought I smeared it but I still do it sometimes to try to change
Wiping the ball off with a shammy after each shot has, more than anything else, simply become a ritual in my preshot routine. Whether it really makes a difference in ball reaction? Really don't know?
Absolutely noticed the same over/under (particularly with the Reality) reaction and I wipe every shot. This is definitely a thing!
JR, you’re not talking crazy because I noticed the exact same thing with ball reactions, and for the most part I don’t wipe my equipment off until I’m finished for the day.
I too experimented with wiping/not wiping and I found a lot more consistency in my ball reactions.
But credit where credit is due. Johnny Petraglia, Jr. once told me that he rarely, if ever, wipes the oil off. I didn’t pick up on it then, but I see why now.
This timing of this discussion is perfect. Last Friday afternoon, I'm bowling my regular league. I've found my Black Widow Urethane is far more consistent than my reactive balls in this particular house compared to my other balls. The way the Urethane is laid out, the oil rings have some decent spacing so they aren't on top of each other. For whatever reason, this week, I didn't wipe off my ball for the entire three-game series. It was the first week, we were establishing averages, so I thought I'd try something different. What I did notice is that I didn't have to change my shot until the middle of the third game. The breakpoint was holding, and I was still getting the same kind of roll into the pin deck. In previous weeks, when I wiped my ball after every shot, I found myself having to move left or right at least three times during the series to find fresh oil. Based on what you're saying, because of my ball's flare and the oil that's still on the ball, the ball is reading earlier slower and the transition is degrading slower, if that makes any sense.
I really have to try out this theory with my Web and Cherry Vibe tonight. The Web has similar flare to the Urethane, but the Cherry Vibe doesn't. Food for thought, J.R. Thank you kindly...
I have used the 'wipe ball or not' system for years. Depending on the lane conditions, leave it on to go longer, wipe to go earlier. Looking forward to the 'science' of wiping vid.
I tried this on league this past Wednesday 6/22/22 and it really did make a diff. Not cleaning off the oil seemed to really help my scores. 221, 190, & 254. Thanks JR for the discussion.
Think it's situationally dependent. There are times where you want your ball to dig in and start hooking earlier, and any extra oil on your cover is going to hinder that, so wipe it down. On the other hand if you are fighting early hook and it is difficult to get it to the ideal downlane break point, then having some extra oil on your cover would help your ball go longer and make your shot easier. I think its a good thing to be conscious of.
That's how I bowl.
Wow I never thought of this. It makes total sense. I’m gonna test this out tomorrow night in league play
I like to roll my first few shots through the heavy oil and never clean it off. Less over hook and don't have to jump left.
Fascinating, trying this tonight in our 4 game doubles league, the lanes are always stripped/oiled about 20 mins before we start. I carry a big clean towel to every outing, and wipe before every strike shot. Mostly bowl with just two balls (!QTS / NP), don't have any urethane. Really intrigued to see if I notice any difference. Will report back if I do. =)
How'd you end up? Did u play without wiping the ball(s)?
Hi, it is funny I was at the bowling alley yesterday and just spraying some shots down without wiping the ball and I happen to notice a big difference for holding the line a lot better so I got a feeling you are right
I just started bowling and have a polyurethane ball. After a few shots the ball started slipping out of my hand and even just gliding without any spin. I started wiping the ball almost every time and could feel the difference in the grip. My shots were much better.
Haven't wiped my reactive balls since this video. It's made using them much more consistent
Honestly, I don't think you're crazy. I rarely wipe mine off during competition. I may wipe it off before matchplay or at the end of the night, but never during play. I think it's over hyped in my opinion. People say to do it for consistency or to "extend the life of the ball", but I think it's just as consistent, just with oil visibly on it and most bowlers don't use the same ball for more than a couple years anyways. Pete never wiped his ball down either.
to be fair, pete was known to drill a new ball every flight in important tournaments, so the dude isn't ever throwing anything but new equipment.
@@scottweiderman9286 You made my point, which I already said. Most bowlers, especially on the tour, drill new balls every year if not before each big tournament now days, which would make ball wiping useless pretty much. You can watch the Brad and Kyle channel and they and everyone else in the house are drilling balls all the time. Out with the old, in with the new.
@@nickwood2225 They do that because the PBA provides it to them for free.
If I could get free drilled balls every time I would do it too!
@@penknight8532 No shit, and most regular people drill and get a new ball every year or every other year anyways, so either way, it doesn't matter.
@@penknight8532 PBA doesn't provide it for free but generally their ball sponsors do.
If you wipe the ball, you are also wiping it into the flares that don't have oil on them taming the backend reaction vs not wiping the ball.
Does this include the big black smudges that seem like they come from machinery rather than the lane oil?
I typically wipe off the area that my hand is touching the ball to feel a secure skin contact to compliment my finger grip.
I thought it was just me! I totally agree! I rarely wipe my balls off while bowling and they seem to perform better for me. I never said anything about it because I thought sometimes maybe it was just in my head.
Its a solid line of thinking. I only throw reactive and I am don't readily clean/wipe my bowling balls. I definitely notice how they soak the oil. I did a tournament this past weekend and struggled mightily for my most aggressive ball to move. I didn't even try to grab another ball because I thought, if this doesn't move, none of mine will. Out of pure desperation on day 2 I grabbed the next one and it moved WAY more than the first. I couldn't believe it. Only thing I could figure is oil soak.
Got home really late last night so balls stayed in the car. Went to grab them and just from being in the trunk the ball was sweating massive amounts of oil, and its not even all that hot. Getting it baked out now, we'll see how it does tomorrow, and then Wednesday.
I'm glad you posted this. I'm a new bowler and have been bowling only for a year. People were saying I was changing my mechanics because my ball wasn't hooking any more. The guy at the pro shop said that the ball was probably oil soaked and he recommended 'de-oiling' the ball about every 50-75 games. I had already bowled over 100 games with that ball. Did extracting the oil out of your ball make a difference in it's performance.
@@exoressdelivers70 It absolutely did. I now watch my first ball out closely. I can usually tell when its time to bake it again. I gave up one league this year so it doesn't get used quite as often, but in general I bake it out every 2 months.
@brianm6117 I used a warm blow dryer on the ball just now, and it started seeping oil like crazy. No one ever told me that bowling balls actually absorb and keep oil like a sponge. I guess because it's hard like a rock, I didn't expect that to be possible. Surely, I will be taking it to the pro shop to get it baked this week. Thanks
I think the same thing. I don't understand why smearing oil all over the ball is good? Especially very dirty rags.
I agree i watch norm he never wipes his stuff off
That’s exactly what Pete Weber said years ago about why he doesn’t wipe his ball ever.
It makes sense to leave the oil on the ball if you're wanting it to hook less, but at the same time you're creating an inconsistent ball reaction that will continue to change the more oil you leave on the ball. Personally I'd rather incorporate wiping the ball into my routine and know my ball reaction will be consistent. If the ball hooks too much then I just need to move in a little.
I'm two-handed so wiping it off is important so I don't have slippery hands. I'm practicing tonight so I'm going to play around with where to wipe to see if my ball motion is affected.
As a two hander I have tried this before, and It is harder because when my non-bowling hand is on the ball it tends to slip off the ball during my backswing because the oil makes it so that i cant hold on to the ball properly. When I bowl now I wear a grip glove on my non-bowling hand so I can do this. I've also thought about this for a long time, and I agree 100% with you.
As an older player who is just coming back to the game after 30+ years away I’ve wondered about not wiping the reactive , back in the day when urethane was the only thing I would’ve never dreamed about not wiping my ball pre shot every time , but with todays covers your observation makes perfect sense , and I’m gonna implement it , now…. What to do pre shot instead of that ???
Most AMF centers have a ball wipe on the down sweep ramp by the machine, so it gets wiped without you knowing.
JR - you are absolutely right - you may be crazy. You seem to make sense and it all sounds very reasonable, especially the part about the "front" flare rings and the "back" flare rings. But - - - we've been wiping our balls forever, right? I'd be really interested to hear you and Ron Hickland discuss this.
I would like to hear this conversation too. Especially since Ron just released a new towel designed to get more oil off the ball instead of smearing it around.
I started bowling in 1974 when I was 10 and and have NEVER EVER wiped the oil off the ball. I have 17 sanctioned 300's and 11 800s with a 855 high series. I quit bowling in 2010 because of these new balls don't even make it a challenge anymore. I pushed in my town to have a plastic ball league to see who really had it. And I had no takers.
You don't need my validation but I do appreciate the thought you are putting behind these things. I have bowled for around 40 years. Over that time I have thought many things about wiping vs not wiping balls. Back in the urethane days. I never wiped my ball. Oil volumes and oil types weren't quite as durable causing much less carry down/ push than we see in the modern game. I felt that wiping the ball in those times was removing oil from play. Most of the time since it was "short oil" that was not a desirable thing to do. As the game moved to resin I continued to never wipe my balls for the same reasons. I found generally that it was similar in that I was still removing oil rather than seeing a consistency from wiping consistently. Now that we've progressed to more modern oil types as well as much more complex oil patterns and those patterns being truly designed mostly for the resin equipment. I found that I really needed to wipe urethane (and microcell) equipment to try to ensure consistent reaction/carry (entry angles) and to keep the reaction for the longest amount of time. I still do not wipe resin equipment unless it is just soaked and I can not get anything to wrinkle. I don't find it advantageous for me or to provide a 'consistent' reaction. So for me it is wipe urethane, microcell and plastic (yes I have used plastic to throw strikes for 300/800) leave resin alone unless in a flood. Just thought I'd add my 2 cents.
What about the New BAM pad textured microfiber, gets the oil off in one pass not smearing it.
But I agree with you, if you want more traction consistently wipe it off. If you want less traction early don’t wipe it off.
Some time I don’t clean my ball i take the oil to the next game just in case there’s no oil ! But you need oil for reattachen yes and more striking yes so don’t wipe!
you are absolutely positively NOT crazy! i've been seeing the same thing for years. if reactive balls take oil off the heads, and they do, then who who wants the heads to go away faster by having a wiped ball go down there every time???? so now it's a double whammy.....you have a wiped ball trying to get through ever-drying heads shot after shot. no wonder ball reaction changes so fast. leaving that residual oil on the ball is exactly what you need!! good stuff.
I use a bowling pad Ctd creating the difference bowling pad Ron hickland pad the bowling pad does wipe the oil off my Brunswick igniter soild 14 pound bowling ball reative medium hook bowling ball it makes the bowling ball hook more on. My bowling league Thursday night village lanes superior Wisconsin where I bowl at independentent bowling alley i bowling at the CTD creating the difference pad bowling and k wipe off the bowling ball radical the spy plastic 14 pound bowling ball too on the dry side polish side it's making the bowling ball hook more kinda in the dry lanes Jr Raymond
Interesting, you kinda touched on it, but another way to look at it is that, the ball is removing the oil from the lane, so wiping the ball will continually dry that same line on the lane, if you are throwing accurately. So if you don't wipe, then the oil from that line is still on the ball so it's still the "same" oil condition on every throw
Well JR I tested the no wipe theory and it definitely allows my ball to clear the front easy and seems to smooth the midlane reaction and the ball is more alive through the pins. My scores in pot games have been insane good. My shammy is living in my backpack now thanks
I agree, ive seen this so much with many of my kids I coach while in practice and in competition.. I don't go this way with MY OPINION as I'm not 100% sure.. I teach what I know...glad you are talking about this.. let's see the numbers🤣
If I don't wipe the ball off for 2 or 3 games won't the oil soak in the ball alot?
This helped me, I practiced wiping and couldn't string strikes, then I thought about what you said in this video and I didn't wipe on my last game and strung 7 together and went 240
today oil is not real oil like for wood lanes..today is mostly water base and drys out faster..here the patter is so short ..almost need to spray wd40 on ball since they do not oil lanes..so oil the ball
I'm a 180 avg. bowler on 42 ft. league house shot patterns (supposedly) and very rarely, if ever, wipe the ball off during the 3 games. I've always thought as the lanes break down during the 3 games, wouldn't it be better to leave a little oil on the ball? My biggest problem is consistently hitting a target once I've sort of figured out where I need to be playing the lane, and of course turning 200+ games into 170 games by missing spares in the 8th, 9th, or 10th. I'm a professional at that, LOL. And no, don't think you're crazy for thinking this way at all. Thanks for the vids.
I wipe the oil off my urethane ball, but I don't wipe it on my reactive ball. On my reactive ball, I bowl better when I don't wipe it off been doing that since a month now. So I stopped wipping my reactive ball since then.
JR you are not crazy. You do not need to wipe off your ball, especially in league, there is not enough oil anyway. The only thing all bowlers should be doing is cleaning them after league with Tac Up or Maxx Tac, and no I do not have anything to do with those products or companies. I have worked in a pro shop here in northern Utah since 2007 and those are the only 2 that will actually clean the ball. I have never wiped off a bowling ball during competition, and I believe my consistency is so much better, easier to read lanes and reaction. Just my thoughts.
Agree 💯, you're correct about sanding back half of rings, I did it, it worked !!! What you're saying about oil on first rings helping to get thru fronts also works. I don't wipe ball anymore, either, had same experience you had practicing then bowling competitive!!! ( They can't sell pads/ towels if people don't wipe!!!) Good video, you gave away a valuable tip !!
In before USBC requires players to clean their bowling balls between games...
This is interesting. I am OCD when it comes to wiping off my bowling ball. It has become part of my routine. Tomorrow in league as excruciating as it will become, I will abstain. Let's see how it rolls.
i couldn't agree more. i quit wiping my balls off 5 years ago because i too thought all i was doing was smearing the oil around. i went from a 200 average bowler to a 220 average bowler and the only change was not wiping my ball off between shots. so nice to hear your confirmation of what i believe also.
This is an interesting topic indeed one of my bowlers never cleans his during a match and he is consistently hitting 660 plus, i myself have noticed cleaning the ball during the game alters the reaction so last league match i did not clean it and bingo far better roll on the ball
I notice when I don't wipe the oil off my bowling ball, the backend of the lane gets "carry down" faster, and the backends are less snappy
Walter Ray never wipes his ball off at all.... or so I remember. You don't sound crazy at all. I agree with it 100%!
I certainly will not dismiss it and I can see some of what you are saying. But I always felt like the more oil you leave on the ball the more oil on it that is going to carry down. To be honest I always feel like I have the hardest time with consistence when bowling with a bunch of people that do not wipe down each throw as they cause carry more carry down. and mall ball hits their carry down. Especially if they are tossing urethane or even plastic like bowling against some of these people on league. Yes I do realize that all balls cause some carry down and resin balls are going to soak in a decent amount before you get back up to wipe it off. Especially if bowling with 5 people per lane. But that rag does take a lot off still yet. Then urethane it certainly would not make since to me at all to leave the oil on them. But thinking about spreading the oil on a reactive ball I can see that, But if you release the ball the same way repeatedly the ball roles the same path. So spreading the oil out is going to spread it to places the ball does not roll also and should no effect it any worse. Like I said I am trying to wrap my head around it as I am just getting serious for the first time in 25 years of bowling and just now this last year have ingrained that into my head to wipe my ball every time . I never use to wipe it before. But I changed a lot this year and seen a huge jump in what my average was when I stopped really bowling serious 10 or 15 years ago, A few weeks back I even had my first 300 too.
Now do you think it makes a difference in between a standard house shot verses say a short flat pattern? To do one or the other I mean. Also how often would you soak or bake you equipment if you choose to do this. I say that as my wife never wipes hers and I always do mine and hers always has so much more oil come out when I soak them or say the few times I left my bag in the heat of the car. I honestly try not to leave them in the car very often. I take better care of my bowling balls than my car. 😆 But hers has a lot more oil sweat out. Sorry to right a paragraph. I will experiment some. I mean our house does have some really good bowlers that never wipe their balls off too. So I will not right it off as you have been in my gummies. 😂🤣
This makes perfect sense to me. The ball track at the (dry) back end of the lane is not going to be oily until you smear oil into it using a towel, so I can see how this might cause the ball to hook in the front and labor on the back end. I am definitely going to try this on my weds league. Thanks for the tip!
I've noticed more over under since I started wiping my ball off never considered I could be effecting the motion by spreading the oil around and onto the flare
Yeah, I don't wipe my balls off either. And I have great ball reaction.
That’s been my very unscientific opinion for years. I was told years ago not to do that and so I’ve just to it. I watch everyone else wipe theirs down during league.
You also mentioned in your 'has league bowling ruined perception...' video about the blue oil helping to see what's going on to a degree. Well, watching Tommy Jones here recently using his Black Widow Ghost (which is basically a white ball for any that may not be familiar with that ball), you can really see where the ball has soaked up the blue oil. I think this is probably one of the best examples of track flare for the novice to know where the oil is going on the ball and how the ball tracks down the lane. Yes, the first few flare rings are really thick with oil and the last few are just a tinge blue, tapering off as the ball flares going down the lane. But what really amazes me is that the ball consistently flares over the exact same spots because as much as he's thrown that ball on blue oil, the flare rings have that distinct blue/white/blue/white/etc. pattern across the surface. I also notice that TJ doesn't wipe either.
I THINK YOU RIGHT . CAUSE WHEN I DONT WIPE MY REACTIVE BALL. IT SEEM TO HAVE A SMOOTH CONSTITENCE REACTION. IN EVERY SHOT, NOT MORE EXTEME REACTION IN THE BACK END.
Using an Alpha Crux in league tonight did as you suggested and did not wipe oil off the ball , shot 220 game 2 with an open in the 10th, Thanks JR for this great tip,
You’re not crazy. I was bowling league with a older storm Soniq by 5th frame ball was not reacting so I called my friend and he said don’t wipe the ball from the sixth frame it got back on track so you have to watch the reaction of your ball especially bowling strikes and it suddenly stops it drives you crazy. It also helps when you can FaceTime for help
I agree, but would it be better to use the automatic ball testing machine, as it throws the perfect release everytime?
Just a thought.
I can definitely say that your right. I bowl 3 games on Thursday mornings with my grandpa and shot 681 without wiping my ball down once. Then went home and resurfaced all of my equipment. Later that night I bowled league and used my Altered Reality since I bowled so well with it earlier that day. I changed the surface from a 2000 polished to 4k fast and noticed that my ball was really inconsistent. But as I kept throwing the ball it eventually started to smooth out and hook more where I wanted it to. And again, I went the whole night not wiping my equipment off. On the other hand though there have been times where I wiped my stuff down before I threw a ball and didn’t notice anything drastic. I guess wiping you ball down after every shot depends on what the lane conditions are like too?
oh wow good i found this video, i thought its only me. i dont wipe my ball coz if i do i get a different ball reaction everytime i wipe it
Interesting. Would love to see your results on that test.
It took me a long time to understand your reasoning and then it made me realize that you may be right
If you need to get the ball though the front of the lanes, when what you did makes perfect sense.
Something I have always been told, when bowling: if it works for you, do it! If not wiping your reactives off between shots works for you, that's not crazy, that's strategy.
In theory your idea makes sence. Because I need all the help I can get I'll give this a try.
I think this could be something everyone needs to try for themselves. I know my reasoning for doing the wiping has always been more of a concern for taking care of my equipment. Not drilling a 100 balls a year as do most professionals, this being said, I'm reminded of an incident between Belmo and Pete Weber where as Pete scolded Belmo for throwing his wiping pad on Pete's bowling ball and then Pete protested he doesn't wipe his ball. Maybe it is more critical than we think. Maybe Pete wasn't being just difficult. Perhaps a well kept to the vest secret. Just a thought. But as for me I'm going to give it a shot and not wipe the ball at least for a game. If good results come I will let you know. I appreciate what I glean, from your channel, So thanks
I have bowled forever and my preshot routine of wiping the ball comes from my urethane days. We are bowling on a 35 ft pattern this summer so I will definitely give this a try. I'll will continue to watch videos please update your success after your next tourney.
Hi JR Raymond, after reviewing your video clip, I decided to put your theory to practice. I usually clean my ball after every frame. Last night at league I played 3 games on a 41ft pattern with a Phase 4 without wiping the ball. I shot 234 220 and 248 I found that the ball motion down the lane into the pins was pretty consistent. However I did focus more on my rhythm and tempo, staying behind the ball and in the shot.
I have to agree it does sound weird. I have had the same experience and I am left handed. I have bowled better without wiping my equipment off every shot. My average is 215-220. This something that I have been thinking about for the last week.
Man!?!?i haven’t used my towel a few games and definitely noticed that and the way i approach my shot and I noticed when i did wipe. Trying it tonight at league 🤞🏾
I always thought it was nothing more than part of pre shot routine. Otherwise no benefits
I have never wiped my ball during league play. This was never for a reason. Just laziness. But I like the premise of not wiping the oil off for a consistent pattern.
I just seen this video today about a year after you recorded this video.. I would like to know if you are still not wiping your bowling ball off. If so are you having a more consistent reaction not doing so ?
im going to try this tonight at league, i just got a reactive ball and i was wiping it off after every shot. it would hook one shot, then be super light the next.
Great video J.r something to think 🤔
I think CTD did an active study on this...
Known this for ages,I never bother wiping balls that flare a lot... the point being I figure it is going to not really do more than taking oil off the lanes quicker
.. logically thinking the DRY part of the ball shouldn't ever touch the Oily part of the lane due to flare, same can be said for the Oily part of the ball, essentially only the Bowties where the ball flares around are hitting both oily and dry parts of the lanes.
Anyways I alway thought wiping didn't make a lot of sense, even with Flaring Urethane dating all the way back to the Brunswick Phantom :)
As a 2 hand bowler my flare lines end up resting where I place my thumb, to my surprise it really throws my shot off horribly..even if you don't have a thumb hole it's extremely important to have it on a proper spot for accuracy/speed
JR, I was wondering that myself when I was bowling in league. And now you say this it makes total sense to me. So if you’re crazy then I am also!!! LOL
Pete Weber never wipe of his ball.
I only wipe my ball off when the lanes are very wet. I'm not at a level to notice it but my mind thinks like yours was in this video so in dry conditions I try to leave as much oil on my ball as possible.
You are absolutely correct, I stop wiping the ball off after first game and now after watching this video I'm not wiping my stronger balls at all!!!
Regardless of if you sound crazy or not, it's definitely a factor that could influence ball reaction. Maybe it's something you do depending on what your ball is doing, and it could be another factor that allows you to change that ball reaction. Whatever the case may be, it seems worthwhile to test it out and see what happens.
I agree Folks. Many times, there isn’t any oil to wipe off. I agree with JR and some of the others. Prefer NOT to wipe ball off. Just another routine/variable that could limit normal routine. One less step to do before the striking begins….
While I have not bowled in 10 years, I stopped wiping my balls and improved by 10 pins in average. I figured wiping the ball only moves oil to other surfaces of the ball. keeping the ball wet means the ball can slide longer without drying your line as fast. Second reason is my ball flares, so I need a cleam part of my ball to react to the dry part of the lane. If I wipe my ball I have to change more often, and second lose backend reaction because I now have some oil on my cleam part of the ball
I found I bowl better when I don't wipe the ball as well, but just attributed it to pre-shot routine, but this is probably a huge part of it. Good thoughts here.
Interesting theory. Would be interesting to have it tested using the robot and spectro.
Billy and I could literally test this tomorrow!
I’m gonna try the not wiping reactive off too since it’s summer leagues nows the time to experiment.
Just tried this and bowled the best week I've ever bowled... Jury is still out but so far the trend has held for 3 games. Gonna keep trying cause I like being lazy!!!
It's an interesting theory. Will give it a shot. There are times that I wonder why the ball didn't do what was expected. weird question JR, but do you think certain brands of bowling balls suite certain types of bowlers better than others?