My dad told me a story, when he was growing up in a village in Ukraine, when “people were people”, this is how a house would be built: the whole village got together, people helped how the could, some carried the materials, some did construction, men worked shoulder to shoulder in the hot sun, women helped cook, and at the end of the day everyone ate together. No one asked to be paid. That’s part of what a brotherhood is.
My mom was always reading books about Quakers and other religious groups that would have this sort of camaraderie. The trade off is having less privacy and autonomy. But I live in a tight knit community currently and I do prefer it.
Well said. I've long held that the widespread acceptance of homosexuality has poisoned the ability of men to form intimate relationships with one another. The attacks come at every angle.
I don’t think this is the issue. I think that feminism has beaten men down to the point of not caring about anything. Also, technology addiction has caused men to prefer gaming, binge watching stupid movies or empty entertainment at the expense of a social life. I am 48 and I have good friendships with several men and we talk about life, struggles, etc. Find your tribe. Make a tribe. Bring people together
Exactly, every time men show any sort of friendly interaction others are quick to call them homos or their actions homoerotic in nature. This sexual perversion has infected the brains of so many.
@@indo4954 Disagree. The Romanians will push back against America's corrupt secularist government. America can only go about the world angering so many.
A lot of retired nfl players say that they don’t really miss the playing part but what they really miss is the brotherhood and comraderie they have in the locker-room
I'm from a small rural town in Ireland. Some years ago, to help address the problem of male loneliness they set up a "Men's Shed" movement, where men come together and work on carpentry, metalwork, mechanical projects and suchlike.
After getting sober, cutting ties with every one I once knew to get sober, getting married, having kids, and then joining the Church, the only thing missing in my life is brotherhood. It’s a struggle to make new friends when you start completely over essentially. I have no close friends. My parish is starting a men’s group though, so that’s a gift. So if you feel alone in feeling alone, you’re not alone in that 😂 May God forgive me, save us all, and bring stronger orthodox brotherhoods around the world.
@@salicrew2504 You are telling me. It’s actually really easy to sense guilt for wanting more in life, when I’ve been gifted so much. Probably an ego thing. The thought train is “ how could you even complain that you have no friends, how pathetic. You don’t deserve anything” It is important to be connected with brothers though.
@LadderOfDescent if you aren't already, I really encourage you to go join an mma gym. It's one of the easiest ways to go through physical struggle together, which is where real meaningful bonds between men are made.
We don't even have stable family's anymore, let alone people valuing a marriage. The Problems of modern culture is way deeper than not being part of a brotherhood.
Brotherhood is arguably more essential, since it was the monastery that built Christianity into a culture. The monastery started with baptist John and has been the pillar of the Church since the beginning. So brotherhood is what allows families to flourish, nations to grow, and salvation to occur.
@@h1mynameisdav3 What? The first humans were a man and a woman, so no. Marriage came way before bortherhood and monasticism in Christianity with Christian marriage predating monasticism by thousands of years.
@@siegeheavenly3601 no, actually, marriage was declining into degeneracy in those days. Birthrates were so low the Romans died out and were replaced by Christians who had stable marriages. Before Christ, marriages were highly unstable and short. Rich men had many wives and ordinary men often went without.
Brotherhood doesn't exist because ultimately no one is willing to be a brother when it isn't convenient for them. Everyone is happy to be around when no one depends on them, when no one needs help, or when the problems are small. But when you're down bad, you can't count on anyone to help. Anything you might get is a tremendous blessing, but more often than not, you can't expect it. Even among the Orthodox. I'm glad your parish is different, but I think it's the exception and not the rule.
That's a great way to vet both male friends & a woman's loyalty. You're right, when you're up big everyone and their neighbor wants a slice of that but when you're struggling & need help, that's when you find out who is really on your side and willing to suffer alongside you
Yep, sums up the men of modern society who were raised on fragility and "being in touch of emotion is okay despite dystopian society enforcing mental health deterioration through frequent use of modern technology and social media"
One thing I will say from personal experience is that its tough tone there through the hard times, because when I have in the past. The guys become like clingy woman, and wont fight for themselves anymore. Being there for them is important of after I pick them up, they grab their weapons and keep up the fight. But its not ok when I help pick them up, and they're and cower behind me expecting me to fight their battles for them. This is feminine. And if guys get picked up and get right back in the front line shoulder to shoulder with me, i'll be more inclined to help. But our culture lacks that badly rn. Idk if this helps, but that's been my experience.
@nobodyreally9580 You would laugh at who’s helping me with my romantic life and the conditions I’m in. The people who should be helping me, who are my brothers in Christ, are not helping me. But those who are not my brothers in Christ are helping me. Then they wonder why things are not going according to their plans. Brotherhood is about helping people when it’s inconvenient lol.
Brotherhood is self sacrifice. No one is willing to sacrifice anything for anyone. Not brothers. Certainly not God. These are troubled times. I’m in the Serbian Church. The old country Serbs here still live this way. As an American born (lost) Serb. This was…amazing to see. Heartbreaking my job that champions ‘brotherhood’ really has none. God bless ☦️
I‘m protestant too. But I leave protestantism now and join the Orthodox Church. You should do the same. Protestantism bears bad fruits and Jesus says “you shall know them by their fruit”.
@@fliegendeskrokodil4369 look friend if it’s not based on Christ it’s not true fellowship. It’s in all churches they have this problem in Orthodox as well. I am orthodox and there is a lack of true fellowship here as well. Even the priest here is stating otherwise. At my church there is lack of depth of fellowship. Or the fellowship that they would consider would be intellectual talk. But it’s not based on Christ, keeping it real.
there are brotherhoods wdym ??!?!?! that's what people do at a bar . Now the bar was just an excuse to see eachother until they got addicted to drinking
Amen brother. As a Roman Catholic, it warms my heart to hear a brother in Orthodoxy talking about TRUE masculinity and how it is formed in and amongst men. The Catholics would do well to learn from a perspective like this and I do my best to bring that same form of masculinity and strength to my community and parish as well. God bless you brother.
To anyone who can experience this,.... this brotherhood that Father Moses is talking about, please value it and contribute to it as much as you can. Keep the fire going. Our eastern orthodox community in India are small. we are not many. And most of the men are scattered throughout the country. And we don't even have a local parish in my city. Our meetings are only weekly that too through group calls. Desperately I desire to see my brethren. If you have this please please please value it.
It's funny, because I've been watching a lot of videos from your channel these days, being a simple agnostic Spaniard coming out of depression who grew up without a father figure. But man, the lack of values of current Western culture is SO great and deep that only in this type of channels do I find common sense and the basic teachings that every man should learn from his parents and community to live in peace and happiness with itself. Thanks all of you
Listening to this guy talk is like getting an oil change or something. He talks so much sense it feels almost cleansing. We need to hear more of this kinda stuff, and to follow the advice.
Bless Fr. I'm 66, and I was born into evangelical Protestantism. Late in life I walked away, was received into the Orthodox Church, and never looked back. My little Antiochian parish has been growing exponentially, with young families, but particularly with men, especially young men. The Holy Spirit is working. We have a men's group that meets once a month for breakfast and fellowship + discuss fund raising, OCMC missions support, our finances, etc. Our Syrian priest is adamant in the men being involved in the men's ministry, and living the sacramental life of the church ☦️.
It's on us to start out own groups, our ancestors in the USA dropped the ball in the name of materialism and keeping up with the Jones'. Cozy started hiking group in region, we met in Church. We now go shooting, bushcraft training, and have days where we buy a bison and break it down as a unit. We halp each other when in need, and without alcohol speak candidly with each other about challenges. God knows many in this nation have challenges there days. No exist in vet community, no exist in big cities. Drinking together is no cozy and no fix problems. Father Moses this is great vidya it's cozy to see men Cozy respects calling this out. Bonus point for also naming muh sportsball and how shallow it is.
Wow thank you father Moses I am a Protestant pastor that has hit a brick wall.. I have discovered the orthodox faith and I can’t leave it alone I have spoken with our local priest here where I live and I have so many questions but I am finding myself just resting in the process where God is leading me. You are right there is 0% of real brotherhood in the Protestant community.. I am just tired to be honest of fighting with it Thank you for your post God bless you
thanks for this nuance. our parish has a brotherhood, but it is lacking a lot of what you say here. it is definitely an american individualistic problem.
Nailed it ❤ Although, in reality I’ve seen many men group activities within various protestant groups, for men who regularly study the Bible and pray together etc. in Orthodox world all I’ve seen so far is talk and idealistic visions. In practice, churches are mostly filled with old women, there is virtually no catechism or even attention to newcomers. 😢
You and your brothers in Christ are soldiers, fighting the same spiritual war. Iron sharpens iron, and in that communion, you will find fulfillment and a sense of purpose as a soldier of God. You are called to die for the Kingdom of Heaven, besides your brothers who you love dearly . There is no greater joy and sense of honor than in that. Stay strong in the faith brothers. Amen.
Sometimes the burdens of life can be overwhelming for us men. I pray God grants me the strength and the faith to walk in confidence in God. Pray for me Fr. Thank you for this message.
The challenge is undoing what our sick culture has done to us psychologically. Western men have been conditioned over several generations to act effeminately and in isolation. Part of being "transformed by the renewing of your mind" is tearing down these mental structures and seeing things very differently. Really hard for most Western guys to break free of (less of a problem for guys coming from Eastern Europe or the Middle East).
Amen to that. Last night my friend and I chatted over drinks with a guy we just met at after a long run, he was going through a divorce. I could tell he really needed some bro time to unload his pain. Felt great being there for him. I couldn’t help but notice how weak and broken men have become though. It is really sad. It’s inspiring me to maybe start a men’s rite of passage and brotherhood retreat center…
Ive always detested the way men think getting together to watch sportsball and getting drunk on a beautiful Sunday afteroon at 1 in the afternoon is a fun way to spend time together. What we all need is discipline and something we can struggle through together. Training together in a gym is one of the ways we can keep each other accountable and challenge ourselves and each other physically and mentally.
This was needed. I was highly discouraged by your video about men not being friends with their wives. It wasn’t because I disagreed with you, but because it’s nearly impossible to have intimate meaningful conversations with other men. I had thought that maybe if I get married one day I would have someone to talk to. Theology aside the number one draw for me to Orthodoxy is the prioritization spiritual development through brotherhood and mentorship. I’ve never had a relationship anywhere remotely close to something like that. In my experience in Protestant churches it doesn’t exist simply because I feel like the pastors have to carry this burden alone in addition to everything else they do and they don’t have any help from the congregation. Spiritual growth is like the most important thing and men aren’t stepping up. It’s like the pastor is the only person fully bought into it and everyone else just uses him when they are in need. There aren’t strong fraternal bonds. I’m not anyone special but I want to try to be the brother in Christ that I wish I had had. I have some issues and circumstances which are painful for me and I never talked to anyone about. At the same time I think I carry so small of a burden compared to others and have been incredibly blessed in other ways. Since I have felt like I have gotten in the way of my own walk with Christ due to what is likely minor for other people my heart truly breaks for most people who likely have a lot more to carry. It has been a continual disappointment to me to feel like either the fullest implications of the faith aren’t taken seriously or that young men who want to dedicate their lives to Christ have no direction on how to. The monastic traditions in the west were in desperate need of reform not abolition. It’s hard to ignore the destructive effects on men who want to serve Christ their king. If we are soldiers like Paul talks about we are an under equipped, chaotic, and underwhelming volunteer militia. It’s hard to convince men to give their lives for something when there is nobody to help encourage, discipline, develop, or support you.
This man is rock solid correct. I agree the social reality, he describes, is very bad. Feminization of society & even men has been a problem for some time. The orthodox church is very appealing.
Youre very right about how men bond through action, and not simply by the action of bonding itself. I definitely see it in my life, I had other conclusions but still wondered why work friends always drifted away once you left the job, it was the cameraderie all along. Wise words, thanks for sharing.
Amen Father Moses, this is a wonderful video that many men need. There are too many men that don't have any male role models in life and as a result they are lost and confused. I was in that position myself until I joined an online men's group 3 years ago. I would not be where I'm at without them. Men need that brotherhood of God fearing men who will show love and support but also fire and correction when necessary. Of course if you can do it in person then even better! Thankfully at my parish we also have that as well.
The modern life isolates us. Brotherhood and community is the only way to break the chains of modern life. I feel that the church offers both of those. Ft. Moses, you are right. There is no better feeling than doing bench press with my brother.
That’s been my criticism about “men’s night” at my local parish. They have dinner and talk. Honestly, I haven’t gone to a single one in years, because I want to do something constructive. So I go to the monastery instead where they give me plenty of work. Then in our down time? That’s when I talk about issues.
I am catholic 25 and finding friends (brotherhood) is very difficult since there are very few men in my age present in church; all my friends are actually non-believers. They mostly used to go to church but abandoned it later in life...
Another very important topic no one, not even fathers talk about with young men. Thank you for being the one who gives guidance. Please give more of these talks, i think they are very needed.
The problem is brotherhood does exist just in all the wrong places especially in crime. I learnt from my mistakes when i was younger but to admit i felt more connected to the people around me in that world then i have ever been in my life which is sad but true.
The only man I feel is my brother is my literal brother, I have male friends but none are like him. I love him so dearly and I speak to him truly and I feel the same is reciprocated. I say this not to flex but to notice the difference and imagine what it would be like if I didn’t have such a brother and only had what is offered in our culture. This is speaking as a guy with good male friends who are awesome men. I hope to cultivate even more brotherhoods of a similar nature obviously over my life, no one will replace my flesh and blood brother, but be inspired to seek that kind of genuine and real friendship with my fellow men.
In poland i have noticed that its impossible to get anyone to do anything even as simole as having fun. Cheap dopamine from phones etc.seems to be the way to go.
I'm not Orthodox, I'm a Roman Catholic, living in Brazil, in a place where one cannot find any Orthodox Church. But I watch Father Moses's messages here at youtube. Something that would probably be condemned by any Roman Catholic. But I see a lot of wisdom and Father Moses' messages resonates with everything I think. The message contained in this video is not an exception. I feel there is too much effeminate bounding amongst men in church these days and I crave for having a brotherhood, which is just impossible to find these days.
Father Moses ! I’m an Anglican youth minister and seminary student from Houston , TX. I’ve introduced my friends to your videos and we thoroughly enjoy them . All your topics are relevant and much needed in our culture ! Thank you for your insight
Hey Allan - should you be interested, there is a Western Rite Orthodox parish in Katy, Texas… You may find it very familiar - yet it is Orthodox. I haven’t been to that parish yet - but, if it is anything like Saint Patrick Orthodox Church, in Bealton VA - it should be cool. Most WR parishes were once high Anglican or Anglo-Catholic… and you might find some of the ancient hymns you might be familiar with if you stream Saint Patrick Orthodox Church Choir… Be encouraged - Lovingly, Cuthbert.
Had an argument recently with my brother, he only messages me when he wants something, he has moved to dubai and is a multi millionaire now and he wants to fly me there to make money with him. He cannot comprehend that money is not my priority in life, and ends up calling me an idiot. Work for God, honest work to provide for my partner, and living in nature is what has meaning to me. Being a man of God has it's consequences when it comes to friendships and family, Jesus made that clear.
I have been Orthodox 37 years and I find most of the men are chickens they don't want deep authentic conversations but sometimes I find that amongst women but I keep my distance I don't trust them so I live alone I'm retired now I travel the world visiting Orthodox churches and communities and have been content to be alone.
I was always alone until I met my girlfriend and will be I naturally opposed the ideas of my freidns and they cut me out because of my conservative ideas im okay to be a lone wolf some people work better that way
@@Cobruh_Commander you don’t call no priest Father! Matthew 23:9 says „And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.“
Father Moses, God really is using you this is wonderful!!! It really is something to see when God is using someone vs when He is not.. I’ve been to churches where God was not the pastors main concern and that’s the reason most of us don’t even believe in God just because the satan controlled church has tried to do everything to keep the Holy Spirit out of church and in the parking lot screaming that this is not the truth..
thank God I have a few very solid male friends who are brothers to me, always there for me and I for them. loyal to each other and dependable through thick and thin. as i get older i realize what a treasure that is!
Thank you Father Moses, it is easy to think that I'm the only one who thinks this or that there is no one else like us. Got to overcome modern social anxiety.
Hi, I would suggest turning off HDR in settings if you shoot on a phone. Sometimes it damages the video (contrast and overexposure). Praise be to Lord. Thank you for speaking what needs to be said.
My friends and I have gone through hell and back, and we have stayed together through it all. We all are figuring out life (20 year olds) and this is the bond and common objective that forms our brotherhood
i went to a catholic highschool (i'm not catholic) and everyone there was pretty much just keeping up appearances for the rest of the congregation. those catholics i knew many were selfish people, God bless the ones who were good.
This is the modern day, Christian version of the fight club scene. Amen, currently building a brotherhood of men, we wake up at 5am and go on runs, bike rides, swimming and lifting. Be the change fellas. Let’s gooo👊🏽✝️
Hello Father, Thank you for all your great advice. A few of my guy friends and I are starting a Bible study group. I was curious if you had any sort of guides or recommend any. Thank you and God Bless.
That's really what I noticed when I moved on from the Roman Catholics to the Orthodox Church where I reside now. There are so many layers within the church community that I just didn't find in RCC; there's the familial element, the priest, the spiritual father guiding us all personally and intimately, the yiayias caring for those younger than them, the young couples, caring for one another's kids, and then there is the brotherhood. The brotherhood was so sorely lacking in the previous churches I'd been a part of; the man to man guidance and support, the ones who urge us onwards to engage in spiritual warfare against ourselves
Where I live in the US (Michigan) and in my Orthodox Church men are self isolating. They get together for shared projects but after that..... They know each other on a surface level but really don't want to go beyond that. Men just don't have the time with family's and so on.
Brotherhood is lost. Some cultures still have it, like a lot of muslim communities. But for western men these days it's all about competing with eachother over money, women etc. Can't build trust that way.
I Recently found this channel. The insight presented has been a positive and needed influence in my life as a man and as a disciple of Christ. Thank you for providing this content.
My dad told me a story, when he was growing up in a village in Ukraine, when “people were people”, this is how a house would be built: the whole village got together, people helped how the could, some carried the materials, some did construction, men worked shoulder to shoulder in the hot sun, women helped cook, and at the end of the day everyone ate together. No one asked to be paid. That’s part of what a brotherhood is.
Beautiful.
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@@graceyenne4497Truly!
My mom was always reading books about Quakers and other religious groups that would have this sort of camaraderie. The trade off is having less privacy and autonomy. But I live in a tight knit community currently and I do prefer it.
Same thing in Serbia. We call it "moba".
Joined an mma gym and found brotherhood stay hard men
Well said.
I've long held that the widespread acceptance of homosexuality has poisoned the ability of men to form intimate relationships with one another.
The attacks come at every angle.
Agreed, Satan knows his time coming to an end so he’s doing what he can to keep all us from coming together.
elaborate on this
Either way, us gays lose.
I don’t think this is the issue. I think that feminism has beaten men down to the point of not caring about anything.
Also, technology addiction has caused men to prefer gaming, binge watching stupid movies or empty entertainment at the expense of a social life.
I am 48 and I have good friendships with several men and we talk about life, struggles, etc.
Find your tribe. Make a tribe. Bring people together
Exactly, every time men show any sort of friendly interaction others are quick to call them homos or their actions homoerotic in nature. This sexual perversion has infected the brains of so many.
God bless. So glad Orthodoxy is the main religion in Romania.
not if America has a say about it after they're done with Ukraine
@@indo4954 Disagree. The Romanians will push back against America's corrupt secularist government. America can only go about the world angering so many.
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A lot of retired nfl players say that they don’t really miss the playing part but what they really miss is the brotherhood and comraderie they have in the locker-room
I'm from a small rural town in Ireland. Some years ago, to help address the problem of male loneliness they set up a "Men's Shed" movement, where men come together and work on carpentry, metalwork, mechanical projects and suchlike.
After getting sober, cutting ties with every one I once knew to get sober, getting married, having kids, and then joining the Church, the only thing missing in my life is brotherhood.
It’s a struggle to make new friends when you start completely over essentially. I have no close friends. My parish is starting a men’s group though, so that’s a gift. So if you feel alone in feeling alone, you’re not alone in that 😂
May God forgive me, save us all, and bring stronger orthodox brotherhoods around the world.
You were blessed beyond your comprehension, if you need anything I will be pleased to help!✝️☦️
@@LadderOfDescent be the brother that you want others to be!
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@@salicrew2504 You are telling me. It’s actually really easy to sense guilt for wanting more in life, when I’ve been gifted so much. Probably an ego thing.
The thought train is “ how could you even complain that you have no friends, how pathetic. You don’t deserve anything”
It is important to be connected with brothers though.
@LadderOfDescent if you aren't already, I really encourage you to go join an mma gym. It's one of the easiest ways to go through physical struggle together, which is where real meaningful bonds between men are made.
We don't even have stable family's anymore, let alone people valuing a marriage.
The Problems of modern culture is way deeper than not being part of a brotherhood.
Agreed
Brotherhood is arguably more essential, since it was the monastery that built Christianity into a culture. The monastery started with baptist John and has been the pillar of the Church since the beginning.
So brotherhood is what allows families to flourish, nations to grow, and salvation to occur.
@@h1mynameisdav3 What? The first humans were a man and a woman, so no. Marriage came way before bortherhood and monasticism in Christianity with Christian marriage predating monasticism by thousands of years.
@@siegeheavenly3601 no, actually, marriage was declining into degeneracy in those days. Birthrates were so low the Romans died out and were replaced by Christians who had stable marriages.
Before Christ, marriages were highly unstable and short. Rich men had many wives and ordinary men often went without.
@@oreo4819 feeling free to watch some of my other videos addressing marital relations.
Brotherhood doesn't exist because ultimately no one is willing to be a brother when it isn't convenient for them. Everyone is happy to be around when no one depends on them, when no one needs help, or when the problems are small. But when you're down bad, you can't count on anyone to help. Anything you might get is a tremendous blessing, but more often than not, you can't expect it. Even among the Orthodox. I'm glad your parish is different, but I think it's the exception and not the rule.
That's a great way to vet both male friends & a woman's loyalty. You're right, when you're up big everyone and their neighbor wants a slice of that but when you're struggling & need help, that's when you find out who is really on your side and willing to suffer alongside you
So true!
Yep, sums up the men of modern society who were raised on fragility and "being in touch of emotion is okay despite dystopian society enforcing mental health deterioration through frequent use of modern technology and social media"
One thing I will say from personal experience is that its tough tone there through the hard times, because when I have in the past. The guys become like clingy woman, and wont fight for themselves anymore.
Being there for them is important of after I pick them up, they grab their weapons and keep up the fight. But its not ok when I help pick them up, and they're and cower behind me expecting me to fight their battles for them.
This is feminine. And if guys get picked up and get right back in the front line shoulder to shoulder with me, i'll be more inclined to help. But our culture lacks that badly rn.
Idk if this helps, but that's been my experience.
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You would laugh at who’s helping me with my romantic life and the conditions I’m in. The people who should be helping me, who are my brothers in Christ, are not helping me. But those who are not my brothers in Christ are helping me. Then they wonder why things are not going according to their plans. Brotherhood is about helping people when it’s inconvenient lol.
Brotherhood is self sacrifice. No one is willing to sacrifice anything for anyone. Not brothers. Certainly not God. These are troubled times.
I’m in the Serbian Church. The old country Serbs here still live this way. As an American born (lost) Serb. This was…amazing to see.
Heartbreaking my job that champions ‘brotherhood’ really has none. God bless ☦️
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Very real. I'm a protestant, and you are very right about the lack of brotherhood and the need for true brotherhood.
I‘m protestant too. But I leave protestantism now and join the Orthodox Church. You should do the same. Protestantism bears bad fruits and Jesus says “you shall know them by their fruit”.
@@fliegendeskrokodil4369 i would agree with you with regards to most evangelical protestant churches. However there are some that bear good fruit.
@@fliegendeskrokodil4369 look friend if it’s not based on Christ it’s not true fellowship. It’s in all churches they have this problem in Orthodox as well. I am orthodox and there is a lack of true fellowship here as well. Even the priest here is stating otherwise. At my church there is lack of depth of fellowship. Or the fellowship that they would consider would be intellectual talk. But it’s not based on Christ, keeping it real.
Father Moses is on the moneyyyyyy !!! that's what this country need a brotherhood
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there are brotherhoods wdym ??!?!?! that's what people do at a bar . Now the bar was just an excuse to see eachother until they got addicted to drinking
@@fathermosesmcpherson but did not Christ say that there is no greater love than to give your life for your friends?
@@mihneabulzan432 bars are just face to face talking, no tasks outside of drinking and gossip are done there
Amen brother. As a Roman Catholic, it warms my heart to hear a brother in Orthodoxy talking about TRUE masculinity and how it is formed in and amongst men. The Catholics would do well to learn from a perspective like this and I do my best to bring that same form of masculinity and strength to my community and parish as well. God bless you brother.
To anyone who can experience this,.... this brotherhood that Father Moses is talking about, please value it and contribute to it as much as you can. Keep the fire going. Our eastern orthodox community in India are small. we are not many. And most of the men are scattered throughout the country. And we don't even have a local parish in my city. Our meetings are only weekly that too through group calls. Desperately I desire to see my brethren. If you have this please please please value it.
It's funny, because I've been watching a lot of videos from your channel these days, being a simple agnostic Spaniard coming out of depression who grew up without a father figure. But man, the lack of values of current Western culture is SO great and deep that only in this type of channels do I find common sense and the basic teachings that every man should learn from his parents and community to live in peace and happiness with itself. Thanks all of you
Listening to this guy talk is like getting an oil change or something. He talks so much sense it feels almost cleansing. We need to hear more of this kinda stuff, and to follow the advice.
Yes he is so wise
Bless Fr.
I'm 66, and I was born into evangelical Protestantism. Late in life I walked away, was received into the Orthodox Church, and never looked back. My little Antiochian parish has been growing exponentially, with young families, but particularly with men, especially young men. The Holy Spirit is working.
We have a men's group that meets once a month for breakfast and fellowship + discuss fund raising, OCMC missions support, our finances, etc.
Our Syrian priest is adamant in the men being involved in the men's ministry, and living the sacramental life of the church ☦️.
It's on us to start out own groups, our ancestors in the USA dropped the ball in the name of materialism and keeping up with the Jones'.
Cozy started hiking group in region, we met in Church. We now go shooting, bushcraft training, and have days where we buy a bison and break it down as a unit. We halp each other when in need, and without alcohol speak candidly with each other about challenges. God knows many in this nation have challenges there days.
No exist in vet community, no exist in big cities. Drinking together is no cozy and no fix problems.
Father Moses this is great vidya it's cozy to see men Cozy respects calling this out.
Bonus point for also naming muh sportsball and how shallow it is.
You are so correct
I really enjoy your channel rather
Love from a Syriac orthodox sister ❤
Wow thank you father Moses
I am a Protestant pastor that has hit a brick wall.. I have discovered the orthodox faith and I can’t leave it alone
I have spoken with our local priest here where I live and I have so many questions but I am finding myself just resting in the process where God is leading me.
You are right there is 0% of real brotherhood in the Protestant community.. I am just tired to be honest of fighting with it
Thank you for your post
God bless you
thanks for this nuance. our parish has a brotherhood, but it is lacking a lot of what you say here. it is definitely an american individualistic problem.
Set the tempo big dog! “Get holy or die trying!” -St. Joseph the Hesychast
Thanks Fr. Moses. Blessings to your family and parrish
Beautiful message. I wish social media and dating apps were never invented.
Father Moses speaking sense 👍💪
Nailed it ❤
Although, in reality I’ve seen many men group activities within various protestant groups, for men who regularly study the Bible and pray together etc. in Orthodox world all I’ve seen so far is talk and idealistic visions. In practice, churches are mostly filled with old women, there is virtually no catechism or even attention to newcomers. 😢
Father Moses, as a young man struggling to find his way, I cherish your advice greatly.
You and your brothers in Christ are soldiers, fighting the same spiritual war.
Iron sharpens iron, and in that communion, you will find fulfillment and a sense of purpose as a soldier of God.
You are called to die for the Kingdom of Heaven, besides your brothers who you love dearly . There is no greater joy and sense of honor than in that.
Stay strong in the faith brothers.
Amen.
Message has been received. Thank you brother
Sometimes the burdens of life can be overwhelming for us men. I pray God grants me the strength and the faith to walk in confidence in God. Pray for me Fr. Thank you for this message.
I’m a college kid who’s catholic and I really like your videos. They really open up to what young men need to hear. Thankyou father
Thank God for my Orthadox parish. I agree the brotherhood that develops in the coffee hour is critical for Life! (Secondary to the chalice of course)
Father, that was one of the best, truest broadcast I've heard in months. Thank you!
The challenge is undoing what our sick culture has done to us psychologically. Western men have been conditioned over several generations to act effeminately and in isolation. Part of being "transformed by the renewing of your mind" is tearing down these mental structures and seeing things very differently. Really hard for most Western guys to break free of (less of a problem for guys coming from Eastern Europe or the Middle East).
Amen to that. Last night my friend and I chatted over drinks with a guy we just met at after a long run, he was going through a divorce. I could tell he really needed some bro time to unload his pain. Felt great being there for him. I couldn’t help but notice how weak and broken men have become though. It is really sad. It’s inspiring me to maybe start a men’s rite of passage and brotherhood retreat center…
Ive always detested the way men think getting together to watch sportsball and getting drunk on a beautiful Sunday afteroon at 1 in the afternoon is a fun way to spend time together.
What we all need is discipline and something we can struggle through together. Training together in a gym is one of the ways we can keep each other accountable and challenge ourselves and each other physically and mentally.
This was needed. I was highly discouraged by your video about men not being friends with their wives. It wasn’t because I disagreed with you, but because it’s nearly impossible to have intimate meaningful conversations with other men. I had thought that maybe if I get married one day I would have someone to talk to. Theology aside the number one draw for me to Orthodoxy is the prioritization spiritual development through brotherhood and mentorship. I’ve never had a relationship anywhere remotely close to something like that. In my experience in Protestant churches it doesn’t exist simply because I feel like the pastors have to carry this burden alone in addition to everything else they do and they don’t have any help from the congregation. Spiritual growth is like the most important thing and men aren’t stepping up. It’s like the pastor is the only person fully bought into it and everyone else just uses him when they are in need. There aren’t strong fraternal bonds. I’m not anyone special but I want to try to be the brother in Christ that I wish I had had. I have some issues and circumstances which are painful for me and I never talked to anyone about. At the same time I think I carry so small of a burden compared to others and have been incredibly blessed in other ways. Since I have felt like I have gotten in the way of my own walk with Christ due to what is likely minor for other people my heart truly breaks for most people who likely have a lot more to carry. It has been a continual disappointment to me to feel like either the fullest implications of the faith aren’t taken seriously or that young men who want to dedicate their lives to Christ have no direction on how to. The monastic traditions in the west were in desperate need of reform not abolition. It’s hard to ignore the destructive effects on men who want to serve Christ their king. If we are soldiers like Paul talks about we are an under equipped, chaotic, and underwhelming volunteer militia. It’s hard to convince men to give their lives for something when there is nobody to help encourage, discipline, develop, or support you.
you are a boss man,
you're reminding me of childhood and my old friends,
thanks
love from orthodox romania
This man is rock solid correct. I agree the social reality, he describes, is very bad. Feminization of society & even men has been a problem for some time. The orthodox church is very appealing.
Wise words, very much needed in the west. We need and long for a strong brotherhood.
The world needs more advocates for men.
Youre very right about how men bond through action, and not simply by the action of bonding itself. I definitely see it in my life, I had other conclusions but still wondered why work friends always drifted away once you left the job, it was the cameraderie all along. Wise words, thanks for sharing.
Amen Father Moses, this is a wonderful video that many men need. There are too many men that don't have any male role models in life and as a result they are lost and confused. I was in that position myself until I joined an online men's group 3 years ago. I would not be where I'm at without them. Men need that brotherhood of God fearing men who will show love and support but also fire and correction when necessary. Of course if you can do it in person then even better! Thankfully at my parish we also have that as well.
The modern life isolates us. Brotherhood and community is the only way to break the chains of modern life. I feel that the church offers both of those. Ft. Moses, you are right. There is no better feeling than doing bench press with my brother.
That’s been my criticism about “men’s night” at my local parish. They have dinner and talk. Honestly, I haven’t gone to a single one in years, because I want to do something constructive. So I go to the monastery instead where they give me plenty of work. Then in our down time? That’s when I talk about issues.
I hear you Father ..... I always wanted a Brotherhood.
(Catholic from Ireland)
I am catholic 25 and finding friends (brotherhood) is very difficult since there are very few men in my age present in church; all my friends are actually non-believers. They mostly used to go to church but abandoned it later in life...
I'm glad to be in recovery because there are men's groups and every year I go to men's retreat and it's amazing experience every year
Another very important topic no one, not even fathers talk about with young men. Thank you for being the one who gives guidance. Please give more of these talks, i think they are very needed.
The problem is brotherhood does exist just in all the wrong places especially in crime. I learnt from my mistakes when i was younger but to admit i felt more connected to the people around me in that world then i have ever been in my life which is sad but true.
Great video, thanks so much for the amazing content! Greetings from Australia 🙏
The only man I feel is my brother is my literal brother, I have male friends but none are like him. I love him so dearly and I speak to him truly and I feel the same is reciprocated. I say this not to flex but to notice the difference and imagine what it would be like if I didn’t have such a brother and only had what is offered in our culture. This is speaking as a guy with good male friends who are awesome men. I hope to cultivate even more brotherhoods of a similar nature obviously over my life, no one will replace my flesh and blood brother, but be inspired to seek that kind of genuine and real friendship with my fellow men.
We need this thank you very much father
In poland i have noticed that its impossible to get anyone to do anything even as simole as having fun. Cheap dopamine from phones etc.seems to be the way to go.
Thankyou Father this was helpful and insightful.
Needed this, thank you.
I'm not Orthodox, I'm a Roman Catholic, living in Brazil, in a place where one cannot find any Orthodox Church. But I watch Father Moses's messages here at youtube. Something that would probably be condemned by any Roman Catholic. But I see a lot of wisdom and Father Moses' messages resonates with everything I think. The message contained in this video is not an exception. I feel there is too much effeminate bounding amongst men in church these days and I crave for having a brotherhood, which is just impossible to find these days.
This makes me think of that book Bowling Alone
I have no clue how I came upon this... greetings from Argentina.
May God give the west it's faith back, all willingly🙏🏻
Thanks Father. Spot on mate.
Father Moses ! I’m an Anglican youth minister and seminary student from Houston , TX. I’ve introduced my friends to your videos and we thoroughly enjoy them . All your topics are relevant and much needed in our culture ! Thank you for your insight
Become Orthodox!
@@byzantinephilosophertempting !
Hey Allan - should you be interested, there is a Western Rite Orthodox parish in Katy, Texas… You may find it very familiar - yet it is Orthodox. I haven’t been to that parish yet - but, if it is anything like Saint Patrick Orthodox Church, in Bealton VA - it should be cool. Most WR parishes were once high Anglican or Anglo-Catholic… and you might find some of the ancient hymns you might be familiar with if you stream Saint Patrick Orthodox Church Choir…
Be encouraged - Lovingly, Cuthbert.
God bless Padre 🙏 Amen
Had an argument recently with my brother, he only messages me when he wants something, he has moved to dubai and is a multi millionaire now and he wants to fly me there to make money with him. He cannot comprehend that money is not my priority in life, and ends up calling me an idiot. Work for God, honest work to provide for my partner, and living in nature is what has meaning to me.
Being a man of God has it's consequences when it comes to friendships and family, Jesus made that clear.
I have been Orthodox 37 years and I find most of the men are chickens they don't want deep authentic conversations but sometimes I find that amongst women but I keep my distance I don't trust them so I live alone I'm retired now I travel the world visiting Orthodox churches and communities and have been content to be alone.
I was always alone until I met my girlfriend and will be I naturally opposed the ideas of my freidns and they cut me out because of my conservative ideas im okay to be a lone wolf some people work better that way
Preach it brother Moses! On point as always
*Father
@@Cobruh_Commander you don’t call no priest Father! Matthew 23:9 says „And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.“
Wow, you are great Orthodox priest! You pick always really great points...
You always have wisdom to give, keep making these videos
Father Moses, God really is using you this is wonderful!!! It really is something to see when God is using someone vs when He is not.. I’ve been to churches where God was not the pastors main concern and that’s the reason most of us don’t even believe in God just because the satan controlled church has tried to do everything to keep the Holy Spirit out of church and in the parking lot screaming that this is not the truth..
Working at my parish has made me appreciate this video for how spot on it is, God bless.
That hit me in the feels
Glad I found your channel! Your videos are on point!
Love these videos that you've been pushing out, always filled with valuable wisdom. Would love to see more!
thank God I have a few very solid male friends who are brothers to me, always there for me and I for them. loyal to each other and dependable through thick and thin. as i get older i realize what a treasure that is!
Thank you Father Moses, it is easy to think that I'm the only one who thinks this or that there is no one else like us. Got to overcome modern social anxiety.
This is amazing advice. Thank you for your wisdom!
Hi, I would suggest turning off HDR in settings if you shoot on a phone. Sometimes it damages the video (contrast and overexposure).
Praise be to Lord. Thank you for speaking what needs to be said.
Thank you for this edification.
Keep the content coming brother, I see you reaching all corners of the world for many ears to hear "Deus Vult" God Bless you
I appreciate these videos father thank you ❤
There’s an awesome Orthodox biker club out of Michigan called the Dead Orthodox 💀
My friends and I have gone through hell and back, and we have stayed together through it all. We all are figuring out life (20 year olds) and this is the bond and common objective that forms our brotherhood
Universal, timeless truth. Respect, Father Moses and praise be to God and Lord Jesus.
Thank you 🙏🏻
God bless you, Father Moses! ✝️
Thank you, Father.
i went to a catholic highschool (i'm not catholic) and everyone there was pretty much just keeping up appearances for the rest of the congregation. those catholics i knew many were selfish people, God bless the ones who were good.
This is the modern day, Christian version of the fight club scene. Amen, currently building a brotherhood of men, we wake up at 5am and go on runs, bike rides, swimming and lifting. Be the change fellas. Let’s gooo👊🏽✝️
“And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.”
Matthew 23:9 KJV
Just pretend it’s father day and you don’t speak Greek. 🤣
teamwork outside the work place is key to build a community
Hello Father, Thank you for all your great advice. A few of my guy friends and I are starting a Bible study group. I was curious if you had any sort of guides or recommend any. Thank you and God Bless.
That's really what I noticed when I moved on from the Roman Catholics to the Orthodox Church where I reside now. There are so many layers within the church community that I just didn't find in RCC; there's the familial element, the priest, the spiritual father guiding us all personally and intimately, the yiayias caring for those younger than them, the young couples, caring for one another's kids, and then there is the brotherhood. The brotherhood was so sorely lacking in the previous churches I'd been a part of; the man to man guidance and support, the ones who urge us onwards to engage in spiritual warfare against ourselves
Where I live in the US (Michigan) and in my Orthodox Church men are self isolating. They get together for shared projects but after that..... They know each other on a surface level but really don't want to go beyond that. Men just don't have the time with family's and so on.
God bless you father.
Brotherhood is lost. Some cultures still have it, like a lot of muslim communities. But for western men these days it's all about competing with eachother over money, women etc. Can't build trust that way.
Thank God for the internet, - although in person connections are obviously greater, i've had a brotherhood for up to 3 years now.
Thank you, Father.
Thank you, Father.
Thank you father god bless
That last thing you said really hit me. I’m going to a Catholic church so they can bear my burdens onto Christ.
Tell Nicholas I said hi, huge fan! ☦️ I heard y’all had in and out burger and it was good.
I Recently found this channel. The insight presented has been a positive and needed influence in my life as a man and as a disciple of Christ. Thank you for providing this content.