How Does a DAW Control Surface or Controller Work | The Best Reasons to Get One
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- The Best Daw Control Surface is the one on your desk. Also known as a DAW Controller, you can add a hands-on mixer to your home studio. Check out this video to see how they work and why you should get one for your Home Studio.
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Home studios are popping up all over the place. All you need is a computer, interface, speakers and some software and you're good to go. But shouldn't a studio have some sort of mixer on the desk? And What is a DAW controller anyway? Check out the video to find out.
Have you been wondering how a Daw Control Surface works? Why do you need a DAW controller with motorized faders? I demonstrate what they are and how they work with my Icon Pro Audio QCon Pro G2 with EX G2 Extender with motorized faders. See how they can impact your mix and music production.
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"Turn the monitor off" What an awesome statement. You are the first person I've heard say that when demonstrating using a DAW controller. Thank you!!!
My pleasure! that was a total off the top of my head moment. I even surprised myself ;-)
@@LonelyRocker You’re a natural teacher 🥰. I strive to be every day and I know the feeling when a simplistic concretion just clicks haha.
Oohh...! I got an idea! May' I'm not the first who has this idea!You able to send the master channel out of a channel strip outboard And there you have it! An analog mixer console basiclly!
Just watched the 1st half of the video and you explained that very well and i think it makes sense...
Awesome. Thank you. Wait til you see the second half.. 😜
What a great video, you have a great way of explaining, straight to the point and straight talking , top job
Thank you so much! I very much appreciate your thoughts!
" Thank-You Sir ! You are a Natural Guide: That is Key. Well Done !
My pleasure! And thank YOU for your kind words....
Thank you so much! This is excellent perspective! I've always been able to walk up to any mixer and instinctively, and by using my ears, dial in a mix. I've been away from recording and engineering for a couple of decades but have put together a home production studio I intend to spend most of my time in when I retire (very soon!) Over the last few years I've had to get my head around vst's and virtual instruments but I'm definitely going to be adding a Daw controller to my set up now!
Thank you and my pleasure!! So glad this was helpful. Good luck getting your studio together. It's your time now to enjoy it. Have fun!
organic mixing process! i really felt that!
Something like that 😅😅
That's a great introduction to DAW controllers. Just what I was looking for. Thanks!
Awesome! So glad it helped. Did you see my DAW Controller Pros and Cons video?
So clear on your presentation and some excellent points. Really well done x
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it.
Searched for "using control surface DAW".
This is first in the list.
Thank you and have a good one.
Thanks for the report. Glad you found me!
I've found this video really helpful in helping me decide on buying a control surface. Definitely yes! Thanks for the realistic and informative demo without any ego :)
Glad it was helpful! And I really appreciate your feedback. Cheers!!
@@LonelyRocker Brilliant man.
This was very helpful. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful! And my pleasure!
Great walkthrough! Thank you ! Just loved your philosophy on whats most important. Using your ears and not your eyes!
Glad ypu enjoyed the video! Appreciate your feedback. Cheers!
Thanks for the video.
My pleasure!
Thanks for telling me i bought this and waiting for it to arrive cant wait
Enjoy it!!
First time.. subscribed. Your explanations were clear and understandable. Too many of the other guys jump around and speak too fast and stumble through their words. It's great to see someone who can actually speak. Thanks. I'm thinking of these ICOM products. They seem pretty straight forward.
Welcome aboard!! Glad you are here to share my journey. Icon makes some great gear. I'm having lots of fun with mine....
This us a godsend for using vcs's at final mix. Great video cheers.
Great to hear! Glad you found this helpful!
Lonely rocker am setting up my recording studio and believe me I just learn something new by watching ur video I’m subscribing to ur channel from now on you ROCK bro
Thanks so much!! Glad to have you here!!!
Really enjoy the content man!!
Thanks so much! Glad you discovered it!
Very useful info. Thanks Sir.
Thank you for your thoughts.
Great vid man! Just picked up a Pro X myself so I'm super stoked to get into it
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. Have fun with the Pro X! I just got that and an XS myself. Will be doing a comparison video with the G2 soon...
i just got my ICON QConproX and am having issues getting it setup to work with REAPER. I was starting to get really down and regretful thinking I had just wasted $1000(Australian). But thankfully your video really put things in perspective and reminded me of the main reasons why i wanted this controller in the first place. Thank you!!
Awesome! I'm so glad. I really noticed a trend of people thinking these devices are super devices that do everything. But once you harness the power of these things you realize how great they are. Enjoy it and thanks for sharing your experience!
Great content! Very helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you, it was a very good introduction. I liked it !
My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it!
This is excellent. Back in the day, Mixdown was a PERFORMANCE based on intimate understanding of the song. The fader moves were planned and the first take executed in real time. The stereo master was then played back and studied. New/different fader moves were memorised.....and a second take captured to the stereo master machine. The result could be very exciting, dynamic mixes. This 'Art' has been lost. It is not easy to do. Mix Engineers tend to replace the PERFORMANCE with leveling compression. The result is unexciting mixes. Today; the use of a fader surface gives Mix Engineers the chance to practice REAL mixing without wasting reels of mastering tape. Great video, thank you. 😊😊😊
Much appreciated! And thanks for your own insight!
Another great vid! Good work!
Let me know if you buy one 😂😂😂
Great motivational video. Makes me feel so much better about getting my QCon Pro G2. It does the basics with Reaper so happy to just be able to mix with the faders.
Glad you enjoyed the video and happy to share some encouragement. Enjoy it!!
@@LonelyRocker I have really grown to love my icon. It brings so much more creativity to my music. Thinking of getting the extender but it would be tight for space. I suppose I could just get away with banking across but my tracks are growing! Does it connect to the main controller or just sit next to it ?
@@Ian-gw2vx That’s awesome. So glad you found your flow. Check my channel. I did a video on the extender. It connects directly to your computer via USB but is connected to the main controller in the DAW setup.
Another brilliant video 👏👏 Nicely explained and demonstrated👍 Natural ability at teaching 👊 Thank you🙏
Wow. Thank you so much. I blush!!!
merci! Très bien fait!
Avec plaisir!
Very informative, thank you! 👌✨
Absolutely my pleasure :)
Exactly everybody ask that question what's better hardware or software but what people don't realize is hardware and software been together for a long time a control surface will make the biggest difference on how you mix great content thank you 👊💯
Thank you very much for your thoughts! I appreciate your perspective on this. Thank you...
I still use an old Mackie Universal Pro. And it is beautiful to look at too !
It's such a home studio guy thing to look back at the gear with a smile...I do it all the time 😂😂😂
Helpful video.. Thank you
My pleasure! Thnx for watching :)
Wow,love your channel...Subscribed!!!!
Thank you so much!! Glad to have you here....
Excellent video. I have 45 years experience as a live sound engineer with minimal recording studio experience. I have been recording in a home studio for over a year now and yes the connection between your ears and your fingertips is lost. I looked at this same control surface. I think it might be the one!
Thank you so much. With your experience that means a lot. I'm glad to be able to share this resource and wish you luck on your home studio journey. If you really put it into perspective it's a great controller for the money. Have fun!!
Cool, thanks for sharing. 🇨🇦
My pleasure! Happy Holidays!
@@LonelyRocker Merry Christmas to you and your family also.
thanks!!
really good vid LR you got me on the Icon tip!!
Thnx as always my friend :)
Hey! Planning to buy Icon Platform M+...
Any thoughts on it, please?
I like the minimal factor, size and not so many buttons is a plus, to me.
Help?
Nice job! Thanks for posting, from a newbie! Subscribed. 👍😎
Awesome. Thnx so much! And welcome aboard 😀
great video
Thanks! I’m thinking about buying a controller for Reaper and your layout looks great!
Thanks! Good luck getting yours!
Very well explained, I used QCon units and more recently the newer SSL UF8 fader and the EQ/comp controller unit, after several months I still default to trackball with controller’s secondarily in my mixing process. I find a two-screen Logic set up to not be ideal integration but I am slowly retraining myself way towards mixing whilst using controllers far more. You now have a new subscriber from London 🇬🇧 UK CHEERS ✊️😊
Thank you so much and I really appreciate the Sub! I'm a hybrid user. Some things are just better with a mouse. But for pure mixing, I love putting my hands on the faders. Depends on my mood too ;) Cheers from Canada!!
Right to the point. Earned a sub.
Thanks so much!
Ok I just saw this video for the first time popped up on a recommended watch list watched it in the first minute I subscribed
Awesome. Thank you so much. Thrilled to have you here :-)
Love the way you explain things. Very thorough and your voice is super smooth. Very pleasant to listen to.
you should do podcasts or Radio shows if you dont already!!! Happy NYE 2022.
Wow, thank you! Really appreciate that! Best wishes to you in 2022!!
Just came across your channel, loved your video. Subscribed!
Thank you so much! Look forward to hearing from you again anytime!!
As an editor for a video company, your video editing is nuts. Love it man.
Much appreciated! Thank you! Coming from another pro that really means something :-)
@@LonelyRocker No prob man, keep this up.
@@joemurgolo4917 Doin' my best! Lots more coming. Stay tuned :)
Thank you for this great demonstrating and explaining video. Another great advantage of getting a DAW controller is that blind and visually impaired composers, including myself, can create an accessible workflow. Screenreaders and Braille displays of course help a lot in an accessible DAW but some sections in plugins are still a struggle without a controller where you don't need eyes for.
My pleasure! Wow, I never considered that for these. that's awesome these can help the visually impaired. Sadly, these might not be great for plugins regardless of sight or not but definitely for hands on the basic functions of mixing. Awesome!
@@LonelyRocker What do you mean by saying it doesn't work with plugins? When you program your macros well and have a controller which can control plugins too, everything should work pretty well. For VST plugins for example, everything can be controlled hands on with NI's Komplete Kontrol keyboards. Although I must say that I can't provide experience reports for every plugin, because I don't need a lot of mixing and mastering plugins in orchestral productions. Could be that my methods/workflow gets more difficult in other genres depending on the processes in post production. But all in all I'm sure that there's always a way when you look for it. Then everything can be made accessible.
the 70’s rush bobble heads though 👏
Good eye!!! And...OF COURSE!! :)
Great video. Didn't stumble on your channel before. Subscribed.
Awesome. Thank you so much. And welcome!
very nice video and well explained🤝
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it.
Thankyou Sir, it was really helpful as im just getting to know the daw controller part in my music making journey, This is Silas from India.
My pleasure! I'm happy to provide you with information you find helpful. Hope to hear from you again on other videos!
You are a Sir!
Explaining everything so nicely and with so much kindness.
Exactly how I was feeling, now that I am planning to buy my first DAW controller of this kind.
How did I live with a mouse, all these years...???
How are people doing themselves so much unfairness.
Thanks for your kind words! I'm glad you enjoyed the video :)
@@LonelyRocker Thank you for your reply!
May I ask an opinion on the little brother, the Icon Platform M+?
Whatever crosses your mind :)
I use Cubase, and years ago I picked up a Houston controller for peanuts. Steinberg stopped support for it so I need to use midi cables rather than USB. The last couple of upgrades have threatened to stop running it altogether but the updates have got it working again.
And guess what. I've never actually got around to using it as I have a CC121 and a Nob controller.
But after watching this video, I'm going to have a real try at using it properly. So thank you. 😀
That's great! Happy I inspired your way back to your trusty controller. Hope it all goes smooth!
great video, just subscribed. this one looks super nice, im debating on this or a presonus faderport 16 - or maybe a behringer x-touch... ah they all look very nice. u made some great points. this classic style of mixing helps creativity, not just efficiency and thats important. cheers!
Thanks for coming aboard! And thanks for your thoughts. You MAY just be seeing a video with different DAW controllers in one video...coming soon...MAYBE! ;-)
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Yep, button hit and I’m along for the ride. Very well produced video and on-camera manner is appreciated. Clearly you spent some years getting good at all this before you hit UA-cam to tell everyone else how to do it. Cheers.
Thank you so much for your very kind words. Funny, being on camera was not something I ever wanted to do. My earliest videos here I was only in voiceover. And then I moved to on-screen but was quite stiff. I've worked on it and feel a lot more natural doing it today. Like everything else we do, it takes practise. Really glad you joined and look forward to hearing from you again soon.
@@LonelyRocker yes, you have settled into your new role very nicely. I’ve watched a few of your videos now and can def see the steady progress as you get more comfortable with it. As many have commented you have a very accessible presence and great teaching style so looks like you’ve found your niche. Since the lockdowns I’ve just returned to my music after many years away and am gradually building up a small studio and as I’m ‘old school’ engineering I wanted something tactile to work with in companion with the digital workstation so looking seriously at the surface controller you’ve featured. Thanks for such a thorough reveal of this surface - thinking it may be the right choice for me as well.
That's awesome. Enjoy your return. It's a ton of fun. That's the main reason I made the channel. I wanted to share my home studio journey and perhaps save viewers some money by sharing some of my mistakes AND positive experiences. Thanks for taking the time to watch some of my videos. I really appreciate your thoughts and you wish you luck and fun along your own home studio journey :)
You get a like simply for having Alex, Neil and Geddy sitting on the desk watching over you :-)
Ha. That’s awesome. They are the biggest inspiration for everything I do. Glad you noticed 🤘🏽😄
@@LonelyRocker They wrote the sound track to my life... and great video by the way, thanks! You, in turn, have inspired me to get a Qcon :-)
Haha...then I did my job. Glad to have a fellow Rush faithful around here. Happy to hear from you anytime :)
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The button-overlays on the controller shabbily curling up over time is totes realness.
That is one thing I'd like to see improved but a very small criticism for what overall is great value for the money.
This is a great video for this sole purpose, I use my mackie controller as a mouse like crazy
Glad you enjoyed it!
I bought a Icon Platform M+ and got it today and I'm a Cubase user.
I was so eager to get it and to get into the box and the simplicity of having a mixer at my fingertips. I've been doing "studio" for 15+ years and im working in a studio on my dayjob. (we dont have physical mixers) I was happy to see the faders going up and down at the start of loading a project. I couldnt scroll past channel nine though and i have no clue why, so i started adding audio channels and i managed to get the bank function to select the next step, never to the last though. Just keep adding audio channels and it will eventually give in. then they stopped working since i uploaded a user define preset (where all i changed was the mixer midi button to f Sharp (since i saw it on a tut vid). I switched it back to the default, and now nothing responded in a motorized function. Faders didn't correspond to what was set in cubase before i touched the knob on the hardware, then it would go back to the state in witch the fader was at the physical mixer- so if it was set at 0 it would go there, and if it was set to +6 db it would snap there. So don't you dare try anything.
I'm sad to say that i will return it today.
The prime reason being that i tried to search for specific
#"I added a DELAY to complete the effect"
Don't give up so easy. It's hard to know where the issue is. Often it's not the controller but just a simple setting or setup tweak. I know a few Cubase users using Icon products and they are very happy. Check in with Icon support. There is aldo a QCon Pro group on Facebook. A rep from Icon is often there. Platform M is similar so you could probably get some answers there. But get it working and you will be happy! facebook.com/groups/1330257203667322/?multi_permalinks=4369609949732017¬if_id=1612290113808580¬if_t=group_activity&ref=notif
I have discovered that the Icon Nano Platform Nano Air with Logic Pro 10.7.1 only allows access to one insert ONLY one from the controller and it works awesome … I just wish I could do the same with the rest of the inserts on the channel.
As I answered in your other comment. Some things are just easier with a mouse. The time and effort trying to figure it out may not pay dividends. Comes back to those "expectations"I discussed.
Presonus Studiolive mixer with Studio One is life for me! The best change I ever made and I'm never going back!
That's a nice setup.
@@LonelyRocker thanks, yes. It cost me a fortune but its been well worth it, especially as I use the mixer live with my band as well.
How can you put a price on pure joy! 😂😂
Lonely Rocker exactly right, lol!
Aren't they two different things? The ICON is a DAW controller and Studiolive is a hybrid Mixer and Audio Interface. I am new to this so please help me understand
great overall viewpoint i feel in time i will feel to need to be more hands on with the faders right now im use to and ok with the faders being on a screen having a bigger size screen helped and i tend to need my hands on a keyboard or an instrument but i feel as i get more into the mixing process id want something like this or a acutal mixer
Thank you. Of course we all have different needs. A real mixer in a home studio really doesn't make much sense these days unless you have. big audio interface. And really it would just be for tracking, you couldn't mix with it. Though if the console had really nice preamps you could sum your mixes on the way out...
@@LonelyRocker most of us wont be making anything that would need this application .. id prob jus hire a big studio for a few hours when i would need to get a mix master done but one day would be fun to have a mixer sat in front of me ijust know from personal ill buy it and let it collect dust
Looks is half the sound 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Right, cause there's a difference between engineering and mixing. Engineering is technical stuff like setting the parameters of the plugins and correcting problems but mixing is using the mixing board as an instrument, riding the faders, muting and soloing, going in and out with reverb an delays, etc,
That’s true. Lines have been blurred as more and more goes digital but there is no substitution for the knowledge of a true engineer.
wow
I'm really itching to get one now, and at leas one extension.
Go for it!!!
I think its important to mention if you by a CS, make sure its uses at least MCU.
As the HUI protocol (8bit) only allows 256 steps due to the midi standards... Where the MCU protocol allows 1024 steps, due to 10 bit.
I'm sure any CS released today will do this, but always best to research , just in case.
Its a big difference for precision.
It depends on the controller. Icon’s is universal so it will support HUI and Mackie. But how you connect is specific to what your DAW Provides....
Well explained....
What Amp/IR/Cab sim (or combination) did you use to get the over driven guitar solo? I like the sound....Nice.
Phil
NYC Area
Thanks! Actually that track is my Marshall and REAL Marshall cabs....that's the genuine sh@t right there!!! :)))
Can you show how to control plugins with the g2?
I think you might be seeing videos like that published soon on Icon's channel.
Can you go deeper with automation and assign other stuff besides volume? Say, in latch mode, if I wanted to tweak different frequency bells at the same time in my EQ, is that possible using faders/knobs? Thanks for the vid!
My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it. That's a good question. I assume you can write anything your DAW allows as it's all assignable. But I've never tried to automate more than one function at a time...that would require some testing. Wish I had an immediate answer for you...
Can you control sends faders with this one? Or every send must be created as a track?
That’s a question many ask. As a controller, there is no value in having dedicated sends because you can whip around so quickly. So you get the benefit of tracks and sends for all faders. And BTW, that’s more a function of the DAW and not the controller. So you will be hard pressed to find dedicated sends in any universal controller.
Great video man! I just ordered a Behringer Xtouch One to get started with. I plan on eventually getting the iCon system you have. I do a lot of film score work, and mouse mixing is killing me. I noticed you also have the Platform Nano to your left. What are you using it to do?
Thank you. Appreciate your thoughts. Enjoy it. You'll love getting your hands on the faders. That thing hiding in the back is actually a wireless Nano. I'm beta testing it for Icon. It's great to have because I can move around the studio and have easy access to transport controls and other functions.
Hey! Planning to buy Icon Platform M+...
Any thoughts on it, please?
I like the minimal factor, size and not so many buttons is a plus, to me.
Help?
My i ask why you have a platform nano on top of the Pro G2 you already have? Just curious. Thanks for the video.
My pleasure. That Nano will make n appearance on my channel soon. then it will all make sense. Stay tuned!! :)
i do believe this very controller works well with Fl studio .. so far seems like might be the best one for that if anyone knows any other that are as good as or better any input would be great
This controller is hard to beat for the money.
How to use the fader and pan in plugin mode? Is it simple tweaking?
You can use the pan controls or click flip and use the faders to tweak parameters of plugins, yes...
I bought a Behringer Xtouch One, one fader DAW control surface to work with Logic Pro but it has a lot of trouble controlling the volume with aux tracks. It'll get confused and send the commands to more than one track. So something unintentionally gets turned up or down elsewhere in the mix. Does the QCon Pro G2 have any issues like this?
If a device is not configured right it can do things like that. In Mackie mode everything is a track. So tracks and busses. For more complex routing you may have issues but to be honest I never go that deep.
Hello everyone, I just bought my faderport v2 and I would like to know how to configure it in a simple and clear way to avoid confusing my mind because no instructions.
I use both cubase pro 10.5 and protools. please help
So it's possible that what I'm looking for doesn't exist, but I think it does. I'm looking for a mixer and DAW together, so I can live mix all my tracks for practice/jam sessions (just so things sound good for us) and I would think with USB it would be able to split that into however many tracks "virtually" for the software. But then when I'm going through tracks editing, I still have those same physical faders to adjust and fine tune things to my liking. Closest thing I think I've seen is the old PreSonus StudioLive 16.0.2. But then I don't have motorized faders and I'm sure the hardware itself is a bit dated at this point. Is there anything (semi-affordable) that can do both? I'm pretty new to your channel and even though this is an old video I enjoy what Ive been seeing. Keep up the good work!
Hey thanks so much! I think Presonus is still king of the hill when it comes to hybrid mixer/controllers. Tascam still makes some integrate mixers/recorders so you don’t need a computer. But most of the industry has gone DAW. You need to be careful with older devices because support will be limited in some cases. Icon’s original QCon had an optional audio interface that plugged right into the controller. That was an interesting concept but it was discontinued.
@@LonelyRocker Hey thanks for the like and response! So in your opinion, should I go for a used Qcon Pro with a Umix 1008 or should I go with something newer? I feel the Presonus units are out of my budget because you still have to buy the interface units too, right? Those looked to be as much or more than the controller itself. Or would you just recommend two devices, mixer and DAW/controller? The downside there being everything played would be recorded as a single track without setting up some sort of audio interface with pass thru. Or maybe I'm way overthinking things lol
Great video man! I’m real close to pulling the trigger on this set up. How has your experience been with it, as far as reliability, support (if needed,) etc.
Thank you! I love them. No issues at all. Been rock solid for me. As long as you keep it in perspective like I mentioned in the video. Don’t know what DAW you’re using but there can be differences. Good luck!
@@LonelyRocker I mainly use Logic Pro X, although I've been dipping my toes in the Luna waters recently. :). Thanks again!
@@BenjaminFranceMusic With Logic X you are golden with the G2. Baked in Logic Pro mode. My pleasure!
Hello. I wanna get a controller surface broad. I found a Mackie D8B and I want to know if it will work with Logic Pro. I also have the new Mac studio running the latest OS. I wanna know before I make the purchase. Please help
I would NOT buy that. It's a VERY old controller/mixer and will give you nothing but problems. Many good affordable, modern options out there...
So im looking on buying this particular control you are using. I can only get 1 right now which is the main one. Can I use that control for a session that has over 8 tracks and still mix with that one board?
Absolutely. Regardless if you have an extender or not you can bank left and right buy 8 tracks or by single tracks. I mention that in the video. Enjoy it
11. You'll have fun with it...
Can you récord a live set while saving all the tracks in the daw with all the mute part you selected during the session?
Keep in mind this is not a mixer. It controls the DAW. No sound passes through it. But any moves you save in the DAW will be recalled by the DAW and the controller will follow. But you could ride faders on the controller and set the DAW to record automation in real time. Would be an interesting test...
Sir, can we use any controller to any DAW. For example, can we use presonus controller in pro tools
Generally yes. As long as the controller supports a protocol supported by your DAW like Mackie, HUI etc. Just check the support for each. But Presonus does work in other DAWs for sure.
Great, but how does your fancy chair work? Do you sit well in it?
😂It served its function well but has since been replaced. So has this studio. Everything is new now 😂
If you automate a reverb to a vocal, so the fader moves extremely fast, can the console handle that?
It can move pretty fast but even it it lagged it would have no effect on the mix as it follows the DAW on playback not the other way round...
I wonder what is the difference between Icon QCon Pro X and Icon QCon Pro G2 ?
I talk about that in a more recent video on my channel.
How well does this work with 3rd party plugins? I have a lot of Waves, Izotope, Plugin Boutique and am curious how this c can possibly improve my work flow. Definitely want to get my hands on the right controller and I'm leaning this direction, however it's a lot of cash if it doesn't work right. No one has done a video on this yet that I can find.
As I said in the video, plugins are a stretch for ANY controller. They are all so widely different. I used a Waves plugin as an example in this video. Don't buy a controller if you are hoping for efficient plugin control. You will be frustrated 100% for sure. For mixing, panning, automation and transport controls...total satisfaction :)
Great video man as always. What's the difference between this one and the Q Con Pro X ? Cheers Man
Thnx my friend. They are similar but the Pro X has a few more features. Most notably the big meter bridge and the 2 scribble strip displays...
The only thing I saw was Qcon x have meters on every track.
@@laylowmajor4363 So does the G2. They are on the unit beside the faders. With the Pro X you get the meter bridge and they are easier to see.
So which one works better
They both work the same. Just a few extra features on the X.
Can you switch on an icon controller from cc controls to daw controls ?
There is a user-defined mode that you can customize however you want and you can switch between that and standard DAW modes easily...
@@LonelyRocker Thx but dont you need on an M+ to shutdown the unit and restart it ?
Just got mine and came across your video on UA-cam. I have loads of questions but I’ll save those for after I’ve had a chance to truly tinker and figure it out.
But I will ask this? How do you get the moving faders effect??
Enjoy it!! Ahhh the secret keys that do magic things...it's a deep dark secret. Or just look up the diagnostic modes for the G2 ;)
@@LonelyRocker ahhh thanks my friend! Also really enjoyed the video… I watched your others ones on this unit as well. Great music too btw.
You got a new subscriber!
The more I dive into abelton and music making the more I understand the need for all the little things that people spend so much money on when it comes to gear.
That's the disease taking hold of you. More is better!!! Just be carefull :)))))
@@LonelyRocker I know haha, I just make sure that for my studio anyone that works with me has the tools they need to be at their best! Something like this is actually really helpful for anyone of the OGs who are new to DAWs and mostly worked on Analog machines. And for me, it helps me understand the fundamentals of a daw and helps me for when I eventually get to go dawless 😎
Great video! I'm almost ready to hit the buy button. Has the G2 been reliable for the period of time that you have used it for?
Thank you! Yes, it still works as well as the day I got it. Take good care of it and it should serve you well for a long time.
@@LonelyRocker You've earned Icon another sale! If all goes well with the main unit then I will purchase an extender or maybe two 😁
Enjoy it! Wish I made commissions but I don’t! Let me know how it goes!
I watch your videos before buying these gear. They are very informative. This is not your fault but I bought this product and after using three weeks my display started giving problems. Flickering and dead segments. Icon offered to open box repair it where I wanted a exchange for a another one. They refused. So I packed it and threw it in my storage room. That's my solution. Considering a Xtouch! Hope you'd do a video on that in future.
So sorry to hear you are having issues. I have had various Icon controllers here for over 3 years and have never had that issue. Where did you buy the controller? If you only had it for 3 weeks can't you return or exchange it? I'm surprised because Icon has always been very supportive as far as I have experienced. Maybe there is a communication issue?
@@LonelyRocker Thanks for your reply. Sadly no any communication error, Chris (apparently titled CEO) sent the distributor from whom I bought the unit saying that it has to be a open box repair. I am in Sri Lanka, so customer service in electronic items are not up to the standard. Distributor doesn't have anymore G2 units and manufacturer only suggest open box repair, and me who is the customer ultimately became cheated. I used lot of Apple products once similar incident happened and Apple Singapore sent me a replacement.
I guess it's a supply issue where you are. Not fair for you but if there is a supply chain issue then it becomes very expensive for them to repair. It's possible the store you bought it from is not an official retailer which could be part of the problem. Sorry you had trouble. Normally their gear works great. Unfortunately you got a problem unit...
@@LonelyRocker I got a reply email from Icon which was sent by the local supplier addressing my problem. The email said they are not exchanging with a new one and "REPAIRing" is their solution. You think it's fair solution? for a brand new product become faulty in 3 weeks? Anyhow thats the end of my trust and using any of that brand.
@@izziOnBass Honestly, you paid good money for your controller. "Repair" likely means replacing the component that's not working. It will be a new part. They are all PCBs. It is an easy fix. Let them do it so you can enjoy your controller. If you were in a country with full supply maybe support would be different. I think best to get it fixed and see for yourself...
12:30 He Finally gets to the point.
Thnx for sticking around that long 😝😝😝😝😝
I new to the whole daw thing. Do you think daw controllers are a better option than the faders on my midi keyboard controller?
If they have motorized faders i do. The faders follow the fader positions in your DAW so they always match. Your midi controller can’t do that if it doesn’t have motorized faders. That’s the biggest difference.
My keyboard is E243, where can I get a standalone mod wheel or pitch bend
Yamaha E243
You can program any midid controller to handle these tasks...as for an actual standalone pitch controller I have no idea...I'm a guitar player :)
I'm between the Beheringer X-touch and the Icon Qcon Pro G2 for Pro Tools ... Are you happy with the Icon? Good video!
Thank you. Yes. I’m very happy with G2. Solid unit. I like the profile and it’s just been working well for me. Check my channel. I did an extensive 2 part review on it.
Hey! Planning to buy Icon Platform M+...
Saw the Behringer X-Touch One and Presonus Faderport V2 (only one fader) and the 8 Track version (but, man... such a huge board...).
BUT, I like the small factor of the Icon Platform M+.
Can some of you gentlemen help me decide?
Are 1 fader mixers a “solution”?
Any thoughts on it, please?
I like the minimal factor, size and not so many buttons is a plus, to me.
Help?
Hi, I have a big problem with my Icon QconPro first series. (recently purchased, naturally used)
I use Logic Pro x ver. 10.7.2 with a MacBook air M1 (OS: Monterey 12.3.1)
I can't get it to work well, it gives me many problems of all kinds, from the shaking of the faders to problems with the movement of the banks etc ...
in practice it is not possible to use it.
I tried everything, I updated the firmware, I adjusted the sensitivity of the faders (here I think I have solved it) but ...
there is always something that makes him like going crazy.
what can I do? I thought about buying the new G2 model, but I'm afraid that too may malfunction due to the new Monterey OS ... I think that's the problem ... or not?
can you help me please? thank you!!
Sorry you are having issues. It's so hard for me to diagnose issues through comments. All I can say is I have 4 Icon Controllers connected to my new Mac Studio running Monterey 12.3 and they are ALL functioning normally without any firmware updates. Sometimes, doing a full reset by deleting the setups in Logic and resetting everything. Also, is your controller plugged directly into a USB port on your computer? Unless you use a proper Hub, these controllers work best plugged straight into the computer. Other than that, open a ticket with Icon. They are better qualified to help. Good luck!
Thank you !!!!
My friend convinced me to get an Akai Midimix but it just sits there and i have yet to find any use for it.
Your friend should buy it from you for full price. That’s a toy 😂😂😂
Just checked these out. $700 is not a bad price.
It's definitely a lot of controller for the money...without a doubt....