No more TRT for me (1 year later)
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In this video, Elliott discusses his year-long experience with testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and the changes he noticed after quitting. He highlights the decrease in muscle mass, increased recovery time, joint pain, and the need for more naps, while emphasizing the importance of understanding one's natural state and inviting viewers to share their own experiences with or without TRT.
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53. Recovering heroin addict. 12 years clean my levels were in the tank when I got sober. TRT has been golden for me.
Great job. How did you get clean?
Same here, brother. 56 years old. 9 1/2 years clean and sober. alcohol and crack l and opioids for me. Those were my drugs of choice. Basically anything that would get me high TRT for me
What's your protocol?
Awesome story.
Same here. Ex cocaine,meth and booze. Now gym and TRT. I also blasted test in my 20’s so I assume my levels are messed naturally anyway. I’m ok with TRT forever
54,weight trained for 20 years consistently, still do 5 days a week, train Brazilian jiu jitsu 3or 4 days a week. Never taken any type of hormone, never will. Get your mind right, eat right and learn to listen to your body. Some weeks it's a breeze, some weeks it's a grind but you learn when to push forward and when to ease back.
Beast bro. I’m 37 train weights 4 days a week and struggle to get 2 days of jitz. I work a physical job 6 days a week too.
Well what you do is start your UA-cam channel and show us. Maybe even put a picture for your profile
But what do you look like.
Just learned this myself and life is much more interesting
100% so much excuses to take drugs 😂 people are just lazy
52 natty Blue collar. Always laughed at the old heads complaining about pain. But the joints do be hurting. The struggle over 50 is real.
Turmeric & ginger tea gets rid of pain bro. I’m in my 50’s and pain is gone within 2 weeks. UA-cam search the recipe.
@@sfrealestatedealmaker6001 Natural remedies like this have ALWAYS helped me in my life. One time we took a cat to the vet and the bill was going to be like $3,000 which we could not afford, so we fed it freaking canned pumpkin and we still have that same cat 4 years later... Old ways were tradition for a reason. Because they worked. We've just lost touch with our old ways and now most of us rely on "Experts" that make money off of your illness.
It's all genetic, I normally never try to compare but since you are I have to say that your pain is probably very minor in comparison.
im a middled aged slob with man tits !
@@sfrealestatedealmaker6001 Omega3 is good for arthritis too and it's a very strong anti-inflammatory supplement.
I’m 42 and take no TRT, never have. I’ve never looked better. I eat well, get enough sleep, and workout 3 of every 5 days with weights. I do a lot of mobility work and warming up before workouts. Joints feel pretty good overall…occasional aches and pains but not bad. My levels are in the mid 400s.
39 years old. Been on it 15 months. It’s been amazing. Faster recovery increased sex drive. Added lots of strength and lost some fat. Donate blood every few months to keep hemacrit down. One shot a week
Your mentally weak and you’ll regret it later watch
is it allowed to donate blood when you're on roids?
39 on trt my test levels were at 40. My body wouldn't heal simple cuts. I was 378.8 lbs and no energy. I have been on it for almost a year. I feel 100 x better. I weighed in today at 255.8 lbs. For me, trt was a life changer.
Elliot, I will be 53 next week and am not on TRT. What I found to work is basically taking care of your health, eating well but not to excess (keep the body fat in check) get sleep and train hard but not excessive or huge amounts of volume. I guess just working smarter and emphasizing recovery as you age. 2-4 days per week max for the strength training. Praying and staying close to God helps me of course as well. Good luck!
Amen. Nobody needs trt or pre workout or any of that. I'm 44, natural and still workout at the same level as the 20 year olds at my gym.
@@stoneyj1a1I can tell you I need to be on trt to be optimal at least for now. I don’t have the luxury to proper sleep and rest. I definitely rely on caffeine but not in excess. Coming out of the military and jumping right into law enforcement my T levels were under 200 with all the stress of high risk operations and patrol life. Being on trt has rejuvenated me completely. I get random sleep 4-6 hours, but still workout 5-6 days a week with lifting, mobility training and grappling. So at least I get the recovery benefits rather than feeling shitty. I’m also a family man which I also don’t have the luxury to rest after work. It’s definitely a healthy option for first responders.
@@stoneyj1a1 amen to that!
I’m 45 , cut to the chase I used Test off and on (some get what I’m saying) from 38-40 years of age…….. Got wiser about the big picture , training, eating , no alcohol, no bad habits, proper rest . I feel good now as ever being off and pound for pound haven’t lost much strength. My levels are 588 so my natural production is still good. Creatine, BCAAs, and a light stimulant pre workout for me these days!
Calisthenics is key. Your body will never get broken down from its own weight. 38 turning 39 this year. High volume calisthenics is the holy grail. Pullups, pushups, and dips and all their variations. Restricting the calories keeps your body in line. Lithe and athletic is the name of the game as we age. Limited weights for legs like squats, leg extensions, and leg curls and leg press once, maybe twice a week
I think that bird is on trt, won't stfu
That bird is blasting Ostrich hormones.
lmao
That bird SPITTIN that 528hz
It's honestly music to my ears. Most of us are TOO used to absolute silence in our little boxes. We need to be more in tune with nature instead of being bothered by God's creations.
im on trt, some would call it cycle but i dont. appox 300mg/w for years.
Yo Elliott! I'm fit and over 50... i never have used TRT... The supplements I do use daily are: 1. Black seed oil 2. Turmeric-Curcumin 3. creatine 4. BCAAs... And I stay away from phytoestrogens... I don't microwave foods in plastic and don't eat things like tofu... my T levels are slightly high normal according to Cooper. Hope this info helps you man! Been watchin you for years and have learned a lot from you!
Awesome, thanks!
That is great man!
I have read that curcumin lowers dht though, which is more powerful than testosterone.
This is the only reason why I haven't used it yet.
Do you feel it helps you?
My main supplements: Citrulline 3g, Arginine 3g daily. Twice on workout days with Creatine HCL 750. CoQ10, Multi, D/K2, Niacin. Along with a few others.
No one cares
@@fujimi715 I do. You weren't the one that asked anyway. Elliott was.
Hello I’m 60 and from the UK. Just want to say I was on TRT for around about 18 months and Bern off it for about 4 months now. I’ve suffered with all of what you have just said, aches in my joints ( elbows, wrists and shoulders) and felt tired as well. And my muscle definition and size is not as good as it was, but I think my age is a factor in that department. I’ve trained since I was 16 yrs old and obviously wear and tear has took its toll. But I’ve just started back on it but I’m going to keep a regular check on my bloods and get blood withdrawals every so often to keep me safe. I’ve done research and spoken to ex champion bodybuilder Dorian Yates last year who gave me some good advice, so I’m hoping that this helps me out. Thank you for your video. Hope you’re well, and take care.
I am 52 train hard …naps huge ,,, recovery ice and sauna once a week …train 3 x week …ruck once a week kettlebells once a week and boardwalk pushups and pull ups once a week with air squats …discipline huge : fast twice a week …Jesus Christ is king and no alcohol no weed …love the show Elliot long time listener
I am 52 in a few weeks as well. I train super hard at gym 3 x a week and a fourth play day where I don’t go as hard. Recovery is always tough lol. I lift to nearly failure on every set and keep volume high. I see mostly increases in weights still but very slowly. I also do cold showers outside in winter and bush walk once a week.
Yes Jesus is Lord and Savior and my King is coming back! Lets gooo
How does Jesus Christ is king figure into your workout plan? Does he spot you? Do you eat him or something? What's the relevance? Do you pay taxes to him? Fight in his army? Does he pass legislation? Seen him lately?
@@tonytran7382 Coming back? So someone is writing a sequel?
@@folksurvival Yes God, He has been writing it in the Bible, you havent read?
Yo Elliot! I’m natty at 62 and still looking jacked and fit. I am frequently asked if I’m a personal trainer. Your observations are similar to mine; less volume and heavy weight, more rest and recovery plus an afternoon nap. And quitting alcohol is the best natural hack of all! I have always appreciated your OPENESS and HONESTY!!
Myself started TRT at age 42 due to having low Test levels naturally. Now 46 years old has been helping me with recovery, energy and better sleep. My total test level is at 900 ng/dl which is considered to be in the normal high range. At age 42 my natural test level was at 238 ng/dl which is below the normal range. I felt like crap back then. TRT does help guys in there 40s who have low Testosterone to begin with. If your 400 ng/dl or more then there's no need to go on TRT yet.
I'm 60. never used any extra genetic medication. I eat clean and train consistently for over 45 years. I'm 6' 3 215 LBS. I do however take herbal supplements. I do intense body weight training and martial arts. I haven't tested my T levels by my energy is through the roof. Wake up wooded every morning.
which herb supps? so u dont use any other basic sups like fish oil/cretine/protein shakes etc?
Chad genetics
I started TRT at 23 going into 24 I been on it for a year and couple months. My level started at 230 ngl and last blood work beginning of June 991ngl. It’s a game changer more confidence, more energy, higher sex drive, i see small strength gains. You gotta workout on TRT
Oh wow that's very young to be on TRT
@@allansmasterspowerlifting.390 I don’t regret being on it. It’s unfortunate situation. I personally believe that I have bad genetics, but I was diagnosed with a thyroid problem and hypogonadism
Did you have symptoms of low T. Did you attempt to increase your T naturally through diet/exercise/stress reduction/sleep etc?
@@rc198028Bad choice to start so soon
@@rc198028 no one gets levels of 200 from not sleeping enough, this person clearly has a pituitary tumor and needs an MRI. Nice victim shaming though, i bet you feel pretty superior right now, did you show your comment to your mom? did it make her proud of you for insulting the bad trt man?
I'm not taking TRT and power lift. I use to lift 4-5 times per week but drop it to 3. I have the same issue of stressed and achy joints and back problems with much longer recovery time. I cant run or jog as much anymore. So now i do more walking, especially trails and sands, and have been looking at getting into swimming. Sidewalks and concretes can be a challenge at times especially after a squat/leg day workout. I've also started up yoga for my off workout joint mobility days.
More than any other reason, I quit TRT after 6 months because of the same reason you mentioned. If SHTF, and it becomes unavailable, that could put a lot of men in a very vulnerable situation.
PCT?
@@survivaldirtbikesllc5710 what do you mean? SHTF? I’m 46 on TRT, 100 mg a/wk. my levels were 140 when I started a year ago, now 650 range, a lot of great benefits, sex drive, libido great, lost 40 lbs, by having more energy all the time, and depression is gone. So I don’t notice any bad side effects, only good stuff, I did change my diet to more keto/ low carbs, l
52 never used TRT levels are mid 300s. I was very athletic when I was in my teens and 20s. Became a dad and stopped training but now and then played sports. Now I picked up weight training again at 49 and I am stronger than I ever was. I am almost as athletic but my cardio is not at the same level. I look good but I'm not 10 percent Body fat. I am a consist 20 and it looks good on me. You can see my physique in a shirt and I don't look embarrassing with the shirt off. So yeah life is good. Pains here and there so I can't train like I did in my 20s or recover as quick but that's OK. I feel awesome.
Slower recovery, achy joints, and naps. Thanks for sharing your experience. I will know to expect this when I get older, regardless of taking test.
Plus lower libido probably. I'm mid 40's and the one thing I noticed are the more frequent naps, but also a bit lower libido.
The naps depends on if I get 7 or more hours of sleep though.
I'm 54 been natural all my life but trained very hard. Everything you're describing when you came off TRT sounds to me like the natural progression of aging. I had to change my routine definitely. I haven't programmed in a long time but I still maintain decently.
I used to do a lot of 4x6-8 straight sets heavy but now I pyramid. There was a time I could do Mon/Thur Tues/Fri Wed Leg Day split, now that's basically once a week per body part set spread over about a week and a half for recovery. I'm on the lighter side of weights but not super light. To be honest, I haven't tested since I took a few years break at 47/48.
In that time, I got into bike riding, then tabata/circuit training with weights, then bands and then came back to lifting in early 2023. It's definitely a different game when you're older but you can still get the work in. It's just slower and needs a different strategy.
Great to hear again from you man! I always respected your grind. When I was newly graduated HS. Your videos always stood apart as a reminder to dream, work hard, and see your accomplishments speak for themselves. ❤️🔥🏋️
I heard more benefits to be on trt than reasons to stop in this video.
Been on it for about 3-4 years. I had low T and really weird symptoms that TRT cured. I'm staying on indefinitely.
Yo Elliott you need to start making more content for the older guys since we all grown up now. Thanks bro. Good video!
I’m 45. Lifted most of my life. Never a steroid user. Really felt around 42 like my body just totally betrayed me. Had my doctor check and my levels were in the toilet. Been on TRT for 6 months and it’s totally changed my life for the better. No naps. My muscles and strength are back and I feel amazing. Also my day to day focus is much better, which I feel results in better moods.
Nothing wrong with that. Good job gonna enjoy what life you have.
What's your protocol, bro?
@@totallyraw1313 bloodwork every three months. 100mg once a week.
Im 38 workout every day .
Boxing 6x we ,luft heavy 2x,3x week ,3 big walks (2hours) week,3 cardio (bike, elíptic,stairs)week(25 min),and fisiotheraphy 3x week bands (full body.
My job evolve Animals and contention of then, Lil heavy sometimes.
I feel like a beast in strenght and power,and amazing cardio
But im celibacy for the l Last 13 year.
No pain, Just some laziness úntil get Warm kkk
Yo Elliot,
I am 40 years old today and have been working out at the gym for about 20 years. I have always been natty. What has helped me recently is the supplement Tongkat Ali and Turkesterone, as well as the classic creatine, and various vitamins. I still get a good pump at the gym and notice that recovery takes longer now, but I continue on the same path.
43, mostly train with barbell full body 2-3 times a week, cardio everyday for the most part. I don’t take anything at all besides a daily multivitamin. Not gonna lie sometimes it’s hard to do anything on my rest days and I just want to lay down, but overall I’m proud of being all natural, all I see people on ozempic losing a bunch of weight and other people on trt getting jacked but idk I just want to know deep down inside that my body does not rely on any substance to function. Just my own hard work and discipline to keep me working towards my goals.
41 here. Not in trt, I feel very well and usually train 6 days a week, and mma one day. I’m getting all kinds of dudes at the gym telling me how great it is, and how great they feel on it. I figure I feel great, everything works great, so why do it now if I’m doing good. Maybe one day when I need it. But as for now I’m resisting the temptation
In October I will be 60 years old. No TRT. My testosterone is on the low side. I used to compete as a powerlifter, speedskater, bicyclist. I've been lifting weights consistently since 1978. I still race bicycles. I'm probably the only person to take first place in the shot put, and place at bicycle time trials in the same year at the Senior Games . . . also competing at Senior Nationals. When I was younger I could incline press 85lb dumbbells for fourteen reps, and now maybe do that with 55lb dumbells. So the strength just goes down. I'm looking to compete in some bicycle races in the sixty year old category, and maybe do the Huntsman World Senior Games this year. I've had to quit doing some exercises because it just hurts in a bad way, but just stay at it. I work out maybe ten times a week with a full time job. Weights every weekday morning. Then after work I will do either cardio or weights three days a week, then on the weekend mornings go bicycling. If I feel tired, I will back off a bit.
I’am 47 and been training 30 years. No trt, train 6 days a week on a push pull legs and still go to failure plus I work as a mailman and walk anywhere from 20to 30 km a day. Energy is great but if my sleep is off than thing get tuff. I was on low carb diet for a couple of years and I think my test levels tanked because I had less libido less strength and crappy sleep. Reintroduced carbs to my diet and within a few months everything went back to normal. Good diet good sleep and I guess gods genetics keeps you young for a very long time
MY ADVICE TO ELLIOT IS TO TAKE COLLAGEN PEPTIDES AND 5 GRAMS OF CREATINE, FOR WORKOUT, MONDAY CHEST TRICEP ABS/TUESDAY- CALVES AND HAMS/WED-QUADS AND GLUTES/THURSDAY-BACK SHOULDERS BICEP..THIS WILL GIVE YOU PLENTY OF TIME TO RECOVER BETWEEN MUSCLES
I’m 74 with a level of 113. I still can gain muscle and strength believe it or not! I can’t do TRT due to a blood clotting disorder. My test is low due to radiation therapy of my groin secondary to cancer. But I still lift and at my age did 10 solid full reps of 225 on the bench while my body weight was 190
I'm natty now, I was on some stuff a few years back but I stopped it because the side effects were just too much to handle. I'm doing things a little different now and yeah, resting more, drinking better water more often has made a huge difference. Thanks for the vids.😊
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Age , pharmaceutical drugs,alcohol , overtraining and work stress all contribute to low Testosterone, I think the issue with TRT is people start too young , 45 is the earliest you should start. Many men have taken it for a decade and not had a single negative side effect. 100mg is enough sometimes guys say they’re on TRT but they’re taking 250mg which definitely isn’t sustainable long term.
50 years old. Been on TRT for 2 weeks. Levels were below 300 before. I haven't really noticed anything yet other than less joint pain than before. It also seems like I can lift more, but I'm trying to be careful because over 50, injuries are real.
You never lied i was on it about 6 months 1m 42 i quit i dont like being dependent on drugs. Im stronger now without trt.
Cold turkey?
52, completely natural since day 1. I train 6 days a week: 4 days what others call "metabolic conditioning" and I call "high intensity with weights", using lower weights for higher reps, very little rest.
I try very hard not to lose power, speed and agility. I need one day of yoga and one day of swimming to recover, plus regular appointments with the phys thetspist. I have a bi-phasic sleep pattern and do intermittent fasting at least four times a week.
I feel great and people think I'm much younger than my real age. But recovery is certainly getting harder.
I’ve worked out since I was 14. In 42 now. At about 39, I started noticing that even though I was working out 5-6 days a week, I was getting in worse shape. I started getting a “soft” look and losing definitions. I was also extremely anxious most of the time.
Went to the Dr to check test levels and I’mcnot sure what the numbers mean but the low end of normal on this scale was 250. Mine was 64.
So I got on TRT and it’s been a game changer not sure if I will ever come off of it, even though I like to think I could. I’m in a very low dose though. 50mg per week done in 2 done in 2 25 doses
so whats scary about that, is that at some point your body becomes dependent on an external substance (or rather, an additional external substance) you now have to take for the rest of your life. What happens if you lose your job when you are 50 and can't afford TRT anymore? Or what happens if - okay, things are different in USA - but in my country, the only legal TRT is no longer produced (company went under), and it is really hard to get any TRT anymore, even when doctor prescribes it? Are we sure TRT will be around for everyone in 20 years time? These are the things that bother me.
@@KingslayerSrb I guess I’ll deal with that issue when and if it happens. Not gonna worry about it today. Plus, it’s not crazy expensive. Even without insurance it’s like $120 for a bottle that lasts like 3 months. But my insurance covers it
Yeah. I couldn’t justify being dependent on this stuff to even function as a man. Not having testosterone is literally being castrated. I refuse to let myself be dependent like that.
@@KingslayerSrbit will always be around, you can even learn to make your own. You can get the raw powders you realise 🤦♂️ saying trt will go extinct is like saying every coffee shop in the world will shut down, there will always be test around you just need to know where to get it, it’s all online anyway.
problem is taking TRT is a shortcut. What is causing your actual T levels to be so low? 64 is NOT normal in any capacity at any age. You need to find what is causing the issue. Sounds like it could be stress/anxiety related. also try to eliminate exposure to chemicals and microestrogens. Good luck bro.
Exactly my thought! If the SHTF then the supply chain would vanish! I’m 57 and am 💯 natural. I train 4 days a week. I do need more naps which is fine. I am definitely not nearly as strong as I used to be. My joints feel amazing because I don’t eat any grains or sugar. My T level is at 390 which is normal for my age. I’m embarrassing it all. I think I look pretty jacked or so I’ve been told. 6’1” 208 33” waist. I’d never consider TRT.
56 same height and waist but up to 242 - Mass monster//lol Lunges are the key, never skip leg day!
@@Sam-dq7ws wow I don’t know anyone who has a 33 inch waste over 220lb…. Gold bless
Still natty brother, God has a higher plan and mission for us that’s for sure. It’s about the hard road man.🙏🔥💪
I’m 41. No TRT. Pretty jacked and happy with how I look. I cannot train as hard as I did before. Takes me days to recover. I also feel like shit after big stuff like deadlifts and legs. I am not gonna say this way is better. I just didn’t want to breathe heavy like most T guys I know. It doesn’t sound healthy.
I'm turning 40 soon.
Been on TRT for 3 years and stopped 6 months ago because I wanted to get my girlfriend pregnant. I was very nervous about coming off but it has been pretty easy. I had low sex drive for about 2 months and zero sperm count.
Now I feel completely fine and sperm count is 160 million. I need to sleep a bit more now. I had high blood pressure while on TRT but nothing when I'm off.
When you are on TRT (Testosterone Replacement Therapy), you typically have higher estradiol levels. Elevated estradiol can lead to increased water retention, which may result in higher blood pressure and a swollen appearance.
Your red face was probably high blood pressure.
After working out for 15 years, 12 years without any drugs, 3 years with. I have zero drive to workout now after I came off. It just feels boring and pointless.
I'm possibly going to be getting on Trt due to having no Libido and a 300 Total T level. Do I have to be on something else to keep my nuts alive, or do they come back alive normally after getting off trt?
@@doitordont6150 There are absolutely no guaranties that your nuts will come back online after TRT. I would highly recommend freezing some sperm beforehand, if you want to have children in the future. Most men get their sperm production back, but as I said - no guaranties. If I would have done it over, I would have frozen some sperm and been on HCG while on TRT to keep my nuts from going completely offline. I was lucky that everything came back to normal with a mild PCT after 6 weeks without test of 25mg tamoxifen every day for 5 weeks. I would have taken HCG if I was able to get my hands on it, but I wasn't at the time.
Why would you want to get someone pregnant if you don't even want to marry them?
If u don’t need trt then u do a 12 week cycle at higher doses, then pct, not a full year. It’s pointless with low doses if u don’t need it to begin with.
Elliot I'm 55 and I train 6 days a week in the gym. I feel not difference in recovery time from being younger. I do train Cardio hard 3 days really working my heart rate it helps with energy.
I'm 50. I've been on TRT for 15 months. I train MMA and can do well in sparring with guys who are my skill level in their primes (28-33). There's no way on earth I could do that without TRT. However, the idea of shit hitting the fan and not being able to get it does indeed worry me.
People talk about TRT like there is nothing bad that comes with it on the internet. Is crazy how kids are on gear not even fully developed. I can just imagine the horror they are going go through later in life. I want my sex drive to stay strong without assistants. I know about the slow recovery aches and pain and pains and pains but there is something rewarding about it being 100% just you. When I am working out I ending up zoning out and never want to stop. I always feel it later that day though and sometimes have to take 2-3 recovery.
TRT was the best thing ever for me. Late 40 and wanted to just die with depression. Now 54 killing it in work and gym most mornings at 06:30. Don’t do it unless you’re absolutely sure you need it. If you do take the minimum you need to get you back on track.
Same here I'm 47 contractor
Lost my motivation at work last yr and most days I feel depressed for really no good reason
My energy level is not what it was
Just got blood work last week and I think I'm going to get on it
My joints hurt when i drop down to just TRT, even worse when coming off fully. Small amount of deca (100mg a week) added to the TRT make the joints feel good. Same with a bit of GH
Been on it for 10yrs and it at has made and does make all the difference. I feel it when I don't take every 2 weeks in motivation, libido and concentration and over all mood. Low T contributes to depression and focus issues.. Down 110lbs in 10yrs. ( Id lose 10 or 20 and maintain it before losing more, didn't want to be skinny fat) It may not be for everybody but some of us its the key. I admittedly had a very poor life style once I open my practice , but was a trainer in college and after I got out of the Navy so I had the foundation of what to do. It wasn't just the T, its took a lifestyle overhaul for myself. Nice video Mr. Elliott, haven't seen you in a while
Just turned 30 and contemplating taking it. Same as you with the injuries, 3 Achilles repair, torn hamstring, chronic ankle sprains, a dozen back procedures, migraines, etc, and I was wondering if yet would help with the pain and recovery. Not willing to give up training 😅
I'm 36 and not on TRT. I do calisthenics, swing kettlebells, swim, run, and do Muay Thai.
Thanks for sharing Elliott.. enjoy your talks. 51, lifetime lifter, natural. Still lift heavy and train hard, but definitely need to prioritize sleep and overall recovery. 8 hours solid sleep per night. No drinking and cut out the snacks and bs. I never wanted to get on the chemistry set roller coaster, so just do the best with how God made me. It's all good, I'm in it for the long run.
Had a bad fall in the military, suffered a TBI and started showing hormone imbalance issues after. My test was at 305 and estrogen was 0 so I went on TRT. My depression disappeared and my whole life changed. I’m on only 120mg per week now but may come off if I can’t get my wife pregnant with HCG and enclomiphene
I'm 58, just started trt 6 weeks ago, but, my levels were low 238,, that was about a month after I stopped a dianabol prohormone cycle of 8 weeks, my blood work after 4 weeks on testosterone cypionate went from 238 to 631, unfortunately i have no idea what my free testosterone, shbg or estrogen levels are,, i changed doctor's and have an appointment in july for a complete blood panel, i feel much better, ive always been in good condition, retired army 101st airborne, karate ... that dianabol was a mistake for sure ,, im going to talk to my doctor about tongkat ali also, see what he thinks,, i know everyone is different, thanks for sharing brother
61 naturally @ 565 total & 75 free levels regularly. Steak & eggs & weights
Been a UPS Driver for about 30 years. TRT is the only thing that helped saved my joints and my back.
43, been training since I was 16, never took TRT. I'd say the only thing I notice that's different now as opposed to when I was 20 is the recovery time and the fact that I need to really warm up before workouts. There's some accumulated effect of the injuries I've had over the years, but mostly manageable. I get tennis elbow every once in a while from doing too many pull-ups and push-ups, so there's that. Other than that I'd say I'm almost as jacked as I've always been. Just limit stress, eat good food and make sure you get enough sleep I guess will work for most people.
Similar to me. I'm 44. Trained basically all my life in some way. 100% natural. Lifting since about 21/22. Just completed a triathlon so eased back on the lifting slightly the last couple of months but I am in as good of shape as ever. Full of energy and my cardiovascular fitness is better than ever.
I’m 46 and had 803 testosterone on last blood check 3 months ago. I raised it 126 points, naturally, in a year and 100% attribute it to lifestyle. I can email results and self photo for proof.
I truly think discipline is so very important in lifestyle and results can improve.
Thanks for the video, been watching, and acting on, your help for years.
I'm not old (30). For me, the sauna (5x 20 min a week) helps keep my T very high. Sauna can really help boost your T naturally.
51, aches all over...I'm a general contractor. Stopped working out couple years ago. Just didn't have the energy for it after working All day. Tried carnivore diet twice. Did it for like 4-5 weeks. Lost 25 lbs. Much more energy. Pains were alot less. Really wanna get back on permanently
49 and I went through the same thing last year working out like I was still in my 30,s and couldn’t recover my testosterone was around 300 I considered TRT but had the same fears so I decided to totally recalibrate everything went to working out 2 days a week and eating better and really paying attention to rest and recovery and I feel way better I’m having my numbers checked again next month but even if they haven’t changed I’m fine with it cause I’m still making gains and feel much after learning how to approach my fitness as I age
This post hit home. I have had weight issues all my life from developing an eating disorder at a young age. I was 175lbs in the 6th grade, hit puberty in the 9th grade and have been 6’1” since. Graduated HS @190lbs and never played sports. I was more of a skip school and smoke out kind of a guy. Then I went from 190lbs to 303lbs at 22 and took it upon myself to lose weight and got down to 212lbs in 9 months. The thing is I knew nothing about working out back then so I ran, ran, and ran some more. I barely lifted weights, but basically ate chicken, rice, and veggies everyday. Losing that weight was great but I got skinny-fat. At 23 I joined the Army in ‘03 as a skinny-fat weakling. I had weak connective tissues, but powered through 5yrs in the Army and got in great shape. After getting out at 28 my body already had a lot of arthritis, neck, c5-c-6 and those 5yrs in the Army caught up with me. I kept somewhat in shape for a few years, but well over a decade I have had high and low weight fluctuations. Then 2022 I got rear ended by some lady doing over 90mph while I was driving 55mph crossing the Gandy bridge back to Tampa. This threw off my back and hip, no surgery but physical therapy. During the past 2yrs I just fell into a depression and started eating like a pig getting up to 314lbs. As of this past May 2024, and on the eve of turning 44 in July, I decided to make a change and within 9 weeks I have lost 40lbs. I get my blood work done annually, so I will know my T levels in Sep. I have been natural all my life and have thought about TRT. Despite my body being in pain, arthritis/inflammation, I still feel like I have that Dog in me and can reach my goals naturally and for as long as I can stay natural. I mean once i’m collecting SS i’ll get on something, but until then I’ll keep fighting the good fight of youth. I’ll link you to my page if you are interested.
see Dr. Now deal with the fatties.
Yo E
Always appreciate the realness...man looks like your hair really came back compared to some vids I saw some months ago where it looked way thin.
Try doing some Qi Gong every morning gentle breathing & movement that always helps with the joint aches & pains
I’ve been on it for 6 months. Mine went from 598- 1800. I’ve cut it back some. I m doing it so I’m able to keep working. I’ve noticed my chronic neck pain go away and I hardly take any Tylenol anymore. I’m 51 years old went from 206- 230
56 and never take aspirin, tylenol, ect 242 pound mass monster
Hey bro, I'm 49 and like you I got on trt in 2022 and stopped around February this year so two years exactly. I too experienced side effects I didn't like.....larger head, facial hyperpigmentation and it made me look older. I'm pretty back to normal besides waiting for my skin to completely clear up. I would say I'm 85-90% I went back to using prohormones, trib, maca, tongkat ali and natural testosterone remedies like these. I don't have any issues with fatigue except when I'm sleep deprived. I strongly recommend glucosamine with condroitin and msm.....works wonders on your joints and joint pain.....be well 🤙Btw, I supp creatine too
43 I stay in the 215-220bw range . I’ve never done trt , or any kind of steroids . Still able to pull in the 600s . Your hit the nail on the head with the less volume and workout frequency. I train 3-4 times a week and they are quick workouts. Usually just 1 top set per excercise. Sometimes if I’m run down I’ll use tribulus or d aspartic acid . I know they are completely natural and don’t help a ton but they are better than nothing without any negative side effects other than the d aspartic acid can make your stomach a little upset when you first start taking it .
I’m 28 been watching E since I was 15. I don’t live the healthiest life (work night shift smoke pack of cigs a week) but my diet is decent. Stretching and breathing exercises are huge for me nowadays. Strength training usually causes an injury of some sort for me now. I use to be able to train like crazy. I feel old at 28 but kids and work are hard to balance with a healthy life. Yoga, qui gong, tai chi, basketball, shadow boxin, and free flow movements (ido portal type stuff) are my go to now. Stay limber and fluid is my advice guys. Calm mind helps relax the body and helps it recover
I have the same symptoms since 1 year. Never took TRT! Joints are in pain, slow recovery etc. 48 years old
I did TRT for one year. I workout constantly and watch everything I eat, yet all it did was make me fat.
Turning 44. Just started training powerlifting and lifetime natty. Hitting heavier lifts than I've ever hit before. Definitely couldn't beat my younger self in a sprint, but old man strength is real. Plus no more severe DOMS.
I'm 54 was on TRT for 15 years been off for 3 years and my T levels flutate between 550 and 700. I eat a very strict animal base diet. I'm doing things in the gym I wasnt doing in my 20s
I’m 41 now I’ve been on ur videos since 2012 ish.. I use to hit the weights pretty hard loves ur motivation videos with u and Chris going hard unorthodox style sessions.
Now we ve been doing a few long distance running events a year and minimised my gym sessions to two days a week .
With the running it is hard to recover from and workout 🏋️♀️ next day, but I’ve reduced my intensity/ weight kg to about 60-70% max with more focus on correct form and overall performance style exercises .
When I’m dieting right I’m still pretty toned and have a lot of shape in my body.
But it doesn’t take much for my stomach to bloat out of i indulge in sweets/foods.
I'm 68 and a recovering Catholic. Had very high T levels 28.6 nmol/L, I decided to try TRT just because I could.
Number one difference is total relief of nagging pain associated with age. Body fat is also melting off of me.
Midday tiredness is all but gone and just an overall sense or feeling if you will of wellness.
I've been on it for 2 months and do not plan on going off of it. I would say I'm feeling the way I did in my mid 30's.
Kind Regards
Darryl
Your a recovering Catholic ? Hugh?
@@danielmcclorey6606 Yeah, its taken me years to get over the brainwashing! :)
52, eat simple healthy food, limit carbs/sugar to about 10% of calories. Cod liver oil and electrolytes. Quite active, 2 days off between workouts- upper lower and lots of walking. Little bit achey and stiff in morning.
Search turmeric and ginger tea recipe, it’s amazing for pain.
Glad to see you're back! Make more videos!
Trt stopped my heart for 5 seconds, on record. My friend same thing but he had to get paddled back to life. It messed me up for life. Not worth it
combined with clot shot vaxx i bet
What do you mean ,that tour heart stops pounding ;
@@ironeagle9690 yep. I was hooked up to an ekg or eeg I forget what it’s called but it slowed down to stopping and it stopped for 4.9 seconds
I'm 45 and always been natural. I've never been huge, at my biggest I was 230. We definitely have to train smarter as we get older.
57 maintaining my 315x5 bench
275 5x5 solo lifts .
20% fat @265lbs above knee amputee on top of that still deadlifting 5x315 on leg day . Natty all my life.
5am at gym 7 days one body part per week for optimum recovery go like a beast when there . Pre-workout drink fasted then gym .
Good job///give mr mike o'hearn's a run for his money.
I’m 45 and natural; I’m still pretty jacked. I weigh around 230-240lbs. My body fat is around 15-20 percent. I’m not sure of my max squat or bench, but for bench I rep 275 15 time and 315 10 times For both squat and bench.
I'm early to mid 40's never done trt train twice a week now, strength train twice a week.. recovery is the thing as you say, takes so much longer but embrace the ache only a sign of continued hard work.
Maceball & calisthenics
No supplements
Fast most days 18 hours sometimes go 30 odd
Low carbs
High fat an natural proteins.
Started when I was 40 till 41 came off same symptoms sore training intensity different I’m 43 working construction as a laborer I take natural supplements to stimulate my natural hormones and feel better than on TRT except the achy joints. Now Lean / great libido/ and good pumps and natty 43 years young!
I'm not exactly sure how old you are but going on 47 and having been doing the TRT for about a year and a half the only side effects I've had are that sometimes the hormone levels become unbalanced and have had to adjust the dosage that I take. My testosterone ideally measures about 1200 to 1400. At one point during the blood work my testosterone came back at 2200+, so I had to lower the dosage that I was taking. Overall it has helped me thin down quite a bit because even though I've been bodybuilding for 30 years I had started gaining a lot of weight around the abdominal area despite the fact that I was training like I normally do and doing my cardio.
The other side effect of which I think was worse is that I started getting more acne in my shoulders and chest. But if you take something like a DIM and there is also a supplement formula that Amazon sells to regulate hormones, which is specifically made lower acne. That made my acne clear up about 95%.
Have you done a sleep study? I was on TRT and it increased my blood pressure, resting heart rate and gave me full blown apnea. Off now for 4 months. Less jacked that’s for sure.
I am 45, always been natural. I weight train 4 to 5 times a week and I do cardio 6 times a week. I also work 70 to 80 hours each week.
42 - Testosterone was 257. I didn't really feel bad but since being on TRT I have noticed some substantial improvements. My training and gains have been nice. The biggest improvements I have noticed is my anxiety and confidence are in a much different place. I just feel better about most things now. It has kind of changed my life.
Age 55 years old . I take creatine n super greens. Get sleep. Go to bed early as possible. I train every day.
Mostly CrossFit style training. I hike every Saturday 5 -8miles in the Angeles National Forest.
I am a Volunteer for San Bernardino Mountain Rescue. Retired Marine.
I do not take TRT.
37 lifetime natty. Lift 5x a week plus conditioning. Recovery has slowed down alittle and have to rotate off heavy days more frequently then before. I maintain alot of muscle at 6ft 279lbs, 14- 15% bf. Mostly hard for me mentally because i need more rest days for my own good but i dont wanna take them. I have to force them and its hard on my mind because i wanna workout. Other then thay fitness is improving overall. Last thing, fat loss feels slightly harder though 😢
I'll b 50 in Sept. I took test when I was 20. No idea what I was doing. Came off no problem. I had youth in my favor. But now I'm in as good a shape as I've ever been, in relation to my age. I eat mainly carnivore but with sweet potatoes. Energy is low late in the day. But I'm ok with that these days. I get 8 plus hrs a night and I'm not on any prescription meds. Whole foods only.
Nearly 62, life long natty but not against PED's. I train every other day doing only one major muscle group, mainly partials (full range of motion will ruin your joints AND is 100% the opposite of how our ancestors expended energy) so that gives me nine days of rest for each major muscle group. I try to eat a minimum of four Ribeyes per week for lunch and the rest of the days hamburger patties or some other form of high grade protein and fat. I also average about 25 whole eggs a week. I eat a heavy cream and butter and not too many carbs. No drinking or smoking. I float at around 18% bodyfat without counting one calorie and have 17" biceps at 5'-9". I've never had high testosterone (highest was 460 when I was 58) but was in the low 300's in my early 50's. My androgen receptors must be decent since I'm still able build strength and muscle over the last 4 years. Every man is different and you have to experiment to see what works for you whether it is diet, PED's, workouts, rest, etc. "Wellness & TRT Clinics" believe every man needs TRT but that is often not the case as Mr. Hulse explains.
65, train one muscle group per day 6 days a week, 10 sets of 12. Responsible test cyp use (125mg/wk.) No ego lifting.
That’s me … 47 yrs old 5 kids, laborer, lifetime Natty, competitive natural bodybuilder. Holding down a disabled child. Train six days a week, including six days fasted cardio. Still going strong have a show this Saturday.
If interested in my whole journey and my whole story, you could inbox me and I’ll get in depth
Are you below 15-20% body fat? At only 35 I started to get all kinds of joint problems, knee pain and had to nap all the time. It might not be testosterone. It could just be carrying too much weight. I Lost 35 pounds and now I feel amazing and have tons of energy and no pain.
I’m 62 bodybuilder never took anything because I was nervous regarding hair loss, full head of hair 82kg lean, 60% tear rotor cuff, partial tear left bicep still pumping 3 days a week but some discomfort in delt and both knees( lineman for 42 yrs hard on the joints) cheers from Dublin Ireland 🇮🇪
stem cell the shoulders mate
I take trt and i think alot has to do with diet.. intermittent fasting and cutting carbs and sugar kept extra weight off and the swollen look..also trt the most 375 mg a week and the least i think would be 100mg every 8 days. And imo never more than 6 months with out a 2 to 3 month pause
Thanks for sharing man! Was red and head bigger along with my hair starting to noticeably be thinner was the reason for me also not terribly low when I got on so hopefully it won’t be bad. Also high rbc went thru the roof.
I was on for like 10 years and then I went off for 2 and I felt fine except for joint pain, joint pain is actually why I went back on.
The joint pain will go away if you didn't have it before TRT. It may take time but it'll pass and very common from the water TRT makes you hold.