⁴ᴷ⁶⁰ R179s being Transferred to Concourse Yard for Storage
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- Due to a recently-identified issue with the new Bombardier-built R179 cars, the entire fleet of R179s is out of service. This smart and prudent action taken by MTA NYCT will ensure that these cars go through the required checks to make sure that they are safe and reliable. In the interim, several trains of R179s have been transferred over the D Line to Concourse Yard for long-term storage. Enjoy!
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Taken on June 16th, 2020.
R179: Has more break downs than in service
R42: Hold my beer, I'm coming back!
R42 aren't coming back tho. R32 did return tho but I really don't know if they are running since I don't live near the J line to see if they are running. I am not on trips right now because of Covid
Nah, they ain't coming back. We'll be alright
@@chaddavis26 It is just a joke. I know they are long gone.
@@nyctransitrailfan With the entire fleet of R179s being shelved and the subway returning to normal about next week, the R42s will need to come back. The "J' can't borrow R143s from the the "L" forever.
The 179s running more milage out of service than in service 🤣🤣🤣
Bruh
Bruh
Bruh
Bruh
🅱️ruh
For a second I thought the video was the R179’s going to Concourse for B/D service.
Had me scared for a min.
I'll feel bad for B and D train riders if they actually get to recieve R179. But in this case, it will just go to the concourse yard
@bruhest Hopefully the R211 trains will be way more efficient than these new R179 trains.
@@nyctransitrailfan Hopefully the new R211 cars will be more efficient than the R179 trains.
They're going to long term storage, sounds eerie
One time when I was done railfanning on the C, I was waiting for J to take me home at Broadway Junction, and just to be clear about this, when I was waiting for the J, a PA announcement was heard that the R179 J train coming into the middle track was going out service as it was supposed to terminate at Broadway junction on the middle track. However, because the T/O couldn’t stop at the marking and had to pull the emergency brakes as he overran the station as the front end passed the station by a few inches, and lots of passengers were confused if it was still going to Jamaica center. Luckily I guided them to know when the next Jamaica center bound J train was coming and waited till it came. But as for the T/O, it was a pain for him because those lemons are so messed up when it comes to the braking. Man I am glad they took it out of service early this month cause it’s a heavy one when it comes operating these lemons. BTW, this was back in mid-March when this happened, before we were in lockdown mode.
Dang, lemons braking sucks then..
I remember this day. Hearing the T/O on the radio, he definitely has some explaining to do on his G2. lol
No one:
Absolutely No one:
Foamers: Yeaaaaaaa!!! R179 B AND D TRAINS!!!!
Lol, they are heading to the yard for storage but the foamers misread it so they thought r179 (B) (D) lol
This also might mean r68 (A), (C), (J) and (Z) trains
@@TBF_1J I hope that the new R211 trains are more efficient than the R179 trains.
Lmao. I really thought it was a setup but this is just for storage.
@@JacquamillafiousJBH not on the J and Z trains considering that 75 foot cars are not capable to run on the J, L, M, and Z trains
Ooof my how the tables turned lol now they go to long term storage
Good that means r32s get to stay longer
R179s been gone for 2 weeks and no sign of the 32s other than sitting at ENY
@@r62aguy85 yeah I saw a r42 at ENY too in the background on an R143 (J) Train when I saw the r32 in ENY, also there are some r32 and r42 in CI Yard right?
JaeTheRailfanner I don’t think so
@@r62aguy85 thats why their TRASH in the First place
Heck yeah, let them go to a yard for storage, we don't need them! All other NTT and OTT rules :D
@JaeTheRailfanner Bombardier needs to start doing a better job building their trains.
@@Hotters9060 Fortunately, we won't be making deals with them anymore. More competent companies like Kawasaki will prevail.
Its a shame for me as a german i life not far away from one of there companies and yeah even here in Germany we have problems with bombardier trains
Hey cut it out there are repairing solutions everybody needs to knock it off there are just checking on safe issues and the are coming back in 2 months that's what MTA's says.
Hotters 7060 Whatever, MTA had forbidden Bombardier from building their future cats
When will these trains ever run normally? I bet this makes the R46 look very VERY reliable.
The R46 cars aren’t that reliable, compared to the R160, R179, and R188 cars. The R46 mean fail distance is 59,141 miles before failure, while the R179 has a mean fail distance 2.5 times that.
Anthony Zelevinsky That is true, though the R160 is the best of the B division fleet in terms of mean fail. I do have trust that the cars will improve
Anthony Zelevinsky how about the R38s and R40s in their final days?
Chafano Nash They were repeatedly taken out of service due to maintenance issues, and the R32, R40, and R42s were even pulled from service on the Queens Blvd line to improve reliability.
Isaac M NYCTransit&vlog 75 foot long cars are usually heavier than shorter trains.
Can't wait for all of the 12 years olds to say "R179s ArE jUnK aNd ThEy ShOuLd StAy OoS aNd KeEp ThE R32s"
Sorry, it doesn't work that way, the acela had issues as well, and they didn't say "well lets just keep the metroliners." No, they fixed them. The R32s are old, and it's time for them to go.
I know. I don’t understand the logic of it (though 110 R32s were supposed to be kept in service alongside all R179s as spares).
@@TheRailLeaguer nostalgia, you know how old people say things were better in the day
Mashed Tomato It’s not really a legitimate reason to keep the R32s instead of the R179s, though that does sound like a reason to keep the R32s for movie trains and for museums.
@@mashedtomato2079 The R179 has hope to be changed better, R32 are old and can break down anytime. Even if R179's keep breaking down, they may still get fixed to replace those R32.
@@TheRailLeaguer My idea was that the MTA should test the R179 more often. Who knows in the near future, the R179 may have a derailment or some failure at anytime. The MTA should test the Wheels and motors on this trains so they don't cause service disruption in the near future.
I'm not sure if this can be possible, but I can think of another rolling stock manufacturer that can potentially replace Bombardier for future bids. These manufacturers include: Siemens, Alstom, Stadler Rail, Kinki-Sharyo, Hyundai-Rotem, and Hitachi Rail.
Kawasaki is building the upcoming R211s. They have a plant in Yonkers.
Isaac M NYCTransit&vlog Kawasaki and Alstom were contenders in the R179 contract, since they already have factories in Yonkers and Hornell respectively. They protested the award and were denied.
The MTA just has to steer away from having the same NTT design and maybe we could one day have a different subway design. This is more than an unbiased opinion but I would like Stadler to get an order. Or maybe from the LIRR or Metro North.
Makes sense. There isn't enough room at 207 St and Pitkin yards since they are using R160s; Pitkin yard is home to the A, and Rockaway Parkway Shuttle, and the 207 St yard is home to the C line.
And A*
Ya'll are lightning quick with the comments!😁
@@theplushydogo3295 Hopefully the new R211 cars that will come to New York City will be better than the R179 trains.
San Francisco just had a similar problems with our new BART trains a couple days ago. The 10 car train was at a station when one of the couplings came loose. They said that the trains would still be in service but operators have to visually inspect the couplings. Funny how both the R179 and new BART trains are made by Bombardier with the same issue.
I catcher one of the trains and it was really like no people on there!
Meanwhile the MTA have R32 trains that are well over 50 years old operating in place of the R179 trains which entered service last year.
You will also be saying that 60 years later when new cars suffer similar problems, especially since EVERY SINGLE NEW CAR GOES THROUGH TEETHING PROBLEMS. EVEN THE R32s HAD PROBLEMS.
They’ll be back within a matter of weeks, avoiding to the MTA Chief Mechanical Officer.
Imagine if their is A R179 B or D
@JIAXUAN SU That would be a disaster for the (A), (B), and (D) line.
God help us all!!!😁
Hotters 7060 also the C
Imagine the R179 on the D line 😂
You wish
its like the walk (or roll) of shame every station they go by
Just to let some Foamers know that the r179s are not going to run on the B or D lines. That's all. Other than that enjoy the video.
Like you made the vid.
@@daniant3294 Woah there! Let's not get smart here. I'm just saying for some people not to get there hopes up. I never said that I made the video at all. Don't take my speech out of context!
Watch how the R179s are going to go out of service again, just watch.
This time i bet by faulty electronic system/ electronic strip maps and LED on the side and front. What do you think?
@@TBF_1J I think a un expected malfunction, blowing up the train. Or maybe a derailment.
The new problem from this train can be even dangerous then the coupler dispacthing. MTA should test R179 more offten and to check in the wheels and motors for any problems so that they don't cause disruption of service in the future.
JaeTheRailfanner That isn’t a such major incident. The R142A has malfunction signs all the time, it still in service.
@@Bombardier2199 yeah but the R179s are way beyond the worst trains ever built in MTA, besides the R142As are fine now and days. And didn't the R142s had problems as well?
I miss them I was planning on riding them a few days before that happened.
Awesome! Hope to see these trains running soon
Foamer!!!
Dj Hammers you complete me! You found out that r179 by bombardier can set up a ten-car B and D trains. I hope they don't get uncoupled just like what they did on the A Express train was uncoupled back then but let's hope disaster doesn't struck again, OK?
That means I can't go anywhere using the subway and now I just want to go home! Oh! *sobs quietly*
Signed, Riff from K9.5.
Here's a question No Body is asking why did all these incidents happen on the A and Not the J These cars been longer on the J then the A after that 40 Days test they been running without severe Problems
Some incidents came on the C line too
I’d be willing to bet money the 179s will be the shortest-lived subway car model in NYC history. If/when they’re put back in service, I’d give it maybe 10-20 years before they start having major structural problems and have to be retired.
I think some of us said that about the R68s, but here we are 30 years later, and they’re doing fine.
I hope with what the MTA means by long term storage that they can clearly inspect the R179s meticulously. Should take advantage while the ridership does not peak back up again. (still low but gradually on a uprise)
R179s. Proof they don't make 'em like they used to.
Nice report about the government acting safely and reasonably to protect us!! BRAVO DC Ham., and BRAVO New York!!
R16: Major Problems. R46: Extreme Problems. R179: DEMON PROBLEMS!!!
Time for the R-32s and 42s to come back!
Only the R32s. With the F train not short turning at Kings Hwy, there’s plenty of R160s to go on the A. This in turn moves the R32s to the J, while the R42s stay in storage.
Guys the MTA is planning to finally put R179s back in service. I think it's by fall.
At this point it would be wise to make an investment in making long-term refurbishments to the R32s and possibly the R42s so that they can serve as very reliable backups at least until the R211s are fit for everyday service.
110 of the R32s were planned to stay around but Albany wanted them to go. However, they should keep around 80-120 cars for service needs, while the rest go into storage, work train service, or into a reserve for movie producers.
Plus the R42s won’t be needed. Due to switch work at Kings Hwy, F trains are unable to short turn anywhere on the line, so service has been reduced. (This work, related to the Culver CBTC, is scheduled to end in the fall). This means that a good amount of R160 cars have been freed up for the A route, which in turn released some R46 cars to the C route. This also allows for the R32s to be moved to the J for service. It also helps that the L is still operating a reduced schedule as well, freeing up train cars from the L to the J and M, all without needing the R42s, which have had a mean fail rate of ~25,000 miles and have also been repeatedly taken out of service due to issues. However, as of now, the R32s, which have a mean fail rate of 30,000 miles before going into the shop, have not entered service, though this can change on Monday.
It’s also worth noting that as long at the COVID-19 pandemic is still going on, the unions may not want them to enter service due to the need to constantly have to move from car to car to operate the doors at different stations, which is a health risk to a workforce that has lost 100 of its own to the virus.
If the MTA is concerned about the cars uncoupling while in motion, why would they have them travel from eastern Brooklyn all the way to the north Bronx just to store them? That's a lot of track miles where a mishap could occur.
Lack of storage at any other yard in the system (hell, even Coney Island has to Store a few extra trains here and there). Concourse is there only yard with room.
I doubt that it'll happen but if they was to put them on the 6th ave line they would probably run them on the B due to it's limited service(weekdays and evenings) to cut down on it's usage but more than likely they'll stick them back on the A when they put them back in service just to watch them break down again.
Well B Line cars are only stored at Concourse. All B trains are maintained out of Coney Island. Concourse just stores them.
@Anthony Zelevinsky they have enough R46s and the R160s. No need to put R68s on the A.
Come on now Bombardier. The R179s should really be pulled to Bombardier train factory where they will learn their lesson and be more careful to make sure every traincar is functional to be safely put back into passenger service
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@Daniel1pp2-roblox The comments are sure flooding on this channel.
6:39 is that normal?
Yes it is very common in NYC Subways
No that’s not common that’s why these trains are lemons all the other trains just to a flash of electricity but these it’s a lot more noticeable
Matthew Adonis No, it is very common. The R179 being a lemon is no such reason for why the third rail sparks.
Hopefully and thank God none of them decouple while on their way to Concourse Yard lol
Oh be quiet, there was a linkbar missing for god sake. It won’t uncouple!
Anthony Zelevinsky Or, there was a linkbar missing.
Are the r179s going to be lemons like the r46s were back in the day?
Just make sure they don’t uncouple during the transfer
Oh shut it, there was a missing linkbar
Stop Justifying these lemons it’s more than obvious they are not reliable and are a risk to the public at any given moment
R62A Guy Correction: you are not reliable. You are a risk to the public at any given moment.
JeremiahC99 That was uncalled for.
R62A Guy Of course I’m gonna justify for the R179s because they’re amazing cars. They have their issues, but they still contribute to us getting where we need to go. That’s all that matters.
These trains should have loud, blaring hons on them same as the locomotives above ground and lean on them all the time going through stations :-)
R179 will be scaped on 2058 due to fire damage
How long long will the R179 be laid up? Any idea ? Anyone??? Thanks!
What's the issue now?
Link bar separated between the 6th and 7th car of a 10 car A train.
On Wednesday, June 3rd, 2020, correct! It was a Manhattan Inwood-207 St bound A train; it was approaching Chambers Street station at around 1:00/1:15 AM when this incident happened.
Therefore, they will most likely be out of service for a while now until they get this situation under control for GOOD.
Wow, I can't believe it. The MTA better fix these trains.
Also I'm excited for the R211, but with all these issues on an R179, I don't even know.
@@fortnitechump982 I feel like since they r262 are gonna replace the r62 cars they should make the r262 different colors instead of blue
Ex: they should make the r262 for the 1 line red since the 1 is red
First time r179s in the Bronx
It’s sad that the R179 fleet has had so many problems. We need them in the system if they’re deemed safe. We can’t have the R32’s running forever.
Anthony Zelevinsky Didn’t the R46’s and R62’s have a lot of problems as well when they entered service?
Koby Schechter Every train car has problems when new. The R32s had clearance issues and the R42s had brake problems as well.
Koby Schechter every car has to retire at some point ☹️
NO... YOU DON’T MEAN...
5:09
R179 at 179 Street (see exit sign).
R179:Has More Break Down More Than In Service🚋🚋🚋🚋🚋
R40 Slant:Hold My Beer🍺 Im Coming To Replace This R179
The R40 slants won’t come back (except the occasional train of many metals).
R179 are truly lemons.
Cool video
Does this mean the R179s will run into the D?
NO!!!!!!
No. It’s just storage due to 207, Pitkin, and RP full bf of R160s.
JeremiahC99 Stop yelling at people! They don’t need such BLUNT responses.
R32_R38 Productions Yeah man. Stop yelling at people. They don’t need such BLUNT responses.
The “ Lemons” are being put in storage
long term storage thats not a good sign that means it could be months if ever there in service again
HOW THE TABLES HAVE TURNED
I guess whenever they return, the B and D will start having them.
NO!!!
If that happens, then the r160 and/or r68/a will be transferred to the A and C lines.
Unlikely. Concourse just has the extra space.
Anthony Zelevinsky it’s actually unlikely according to the MTA officials
I live around the concourse so I gonna see it
How long will the R179s be stored?
Few weeks or so.
Why are u doing this to the r179 :( they just came give it a chance pls :(((((
Whats wrong with the R179s? I mainly ride the B&D lines so I honestly wouldn’t know 😅
A bunch of isolated incidents due to the subcontractors parts has resulted in quite a spectacle for the cars.
Oof Nice Catch!
🤔 should the E gets some R179s?
Hopefully the R179 will be fixed with new stuff, the R179 was rushed smh...
Let's hope so. It probably needs some better tools to make everything better than ever. But it would really be something if they do put them on the B and D lines. half of the R68's could end up on the A line.
The quality of the R179 is bad.
It wasn’t. It was delayed.
R179s on the B and D? R160s finally removed from Coney Island Yard?
R179s WILL NOT BE GOING ON THE B AND D. They will be at concourse for LONG TERM STORAGE!!!!
JeremiahC99 and even if it did it would unreliability on the subway system
The Ice Ninja Nation 2 In all actuality, discounting the issues, the R179s have a mean fail rate of 150,000 miles. It’s not really going to bring down subway reliability.
Hope they don't replace the R68s on the D or B Lines.
They’re not.
JeremiahC99 lol
Matthew Adonis Yep. jared J is so funny.
If they are, It won't fully take over, also, this probably means the r160s on the N, Q , and W lines will finally be transferred off the line, and taken into service on the A line.
@@aqua2poweros699 And for what reason? The R179s are only being sent to Concourse for storage purposes, as there are extra R160s in the normal A/C yards. Additionally, it is predicted that the N, Q, and W being the last bearers of SMEE cars, as every other main B Division line has at least one section planned for CBTC.
No surprise you guys are having issues with Bombardier like we are. They need to stick to making planes.
Hopefully those planes are better than the Boeing 737 Max.
JeremiahC99 😭 you saying the CS’ series gonna have a missing hydraulic pipe?
LF_SA Huh?
Nice
This is the second time the r179 is having problem. The door issues and now link bar.
Anthony Zelevinsky that meant two train cars separated from each other, which is like really really BAD
I have a feeling that those R179s can get on fire if they return to service again. If this ever happens, the MTA is going to feel in the obligation to retire the entire fleet of R179s from passenger service. It will be really scary if an R179 gets on fire with passengers inside the train. In my personal opinion, these trains are not safe. If the MTA returns the R179s back in passenger service, they will continue to give more problems. I say that the MTA retires the R179s when the R211s arrive.
You do realize that the trains are still under warranty, right?
Anthony Zelevinsky The R142 fire was due to possible arson, not a subway car defect.
let's just hope another decoupling incident doesn't happen again during the transfer
Is it normal to see bird poop on the R179 every time?
Long term storage...... i hope it isnt too long for them to be gone....
MTA: R179 has broken down for the second time
Everyone:.....
Mainstream media: R179 will be out of service until further notice
*R160 has entered the chat to A and C train* *R179 has left the chat*
*Dancing Coffin Plays* R179
Well there are more R46s on the A than the C. If I'm not mistaken, only 24 ENY cars are on the C. They're trying to preserve ENY sets and use the R32s only as a contingency.
R179 NIS is on D Line!
NO ITS NOT!!!!!
I been seeing alot of R179s in the yard.
These cars had problems from Day 1. It is an outrageous example of garbage design and workmanship. The MTA has to force Bombardier to fix these cars once and for all. If it takes a suit and court decree, so be it. Every cent spent on finding out what's wrong and then fixing the problems must be borne by Bombardier.
Or we can give them to Alstom for a fix up, since that’s who they’re selling the Bombardier rail division is going too.
Bombardier might want to call in Kawasaki to help them fix the R179s
I think they should just retire them by this point.Because those things could cause a serious accident if left unchecked like how they are.They should look at them more like the R46s,or retire them.
You do realize that the trains are still under warranty, right?
What are the kids at 1:56 doing?
They're not used to seeing NTTS on that line lol
Foaming
The D needs R179s, so the R68s can go to the A & C
Why?
JeremiahC99 sounds like you hate the B & D lines cuz they’re not new
Matthew Adonis Correction: sounds like YOU hate the B and D lines because they’re not new.
JeremiahC99 Why are you attacking everyone? Are you okay?
R32_R38 Productions Yeah man. Why are you attacking everyone? Are you okay?
Guess they scrapped up enough bubble gum, rubber bands and Scotch tape to get them there....
@Anthony Zelevinsky no, the lemon 179s. The R32s should be collecting social security, but instead they still work😲 (and stick together😒😒😒)
Dear R179
Stop breaking down everytime when the R42 or R32 retires have some motherfucking balls!
Thanks- RSD
Why do they hiss air so much?
R142s do that too... I guess it’s a Bombardier thing?
It's just the propulsion and HVAC..
I hope these trash cars don’t take up too much space at Concourse Yard. We need them for the B, D and 4.
#LimesAreBetterThanLemons
This means R143s are better than R179s.
Edit: The R143s are older than most of the Fortnite community.
R143’s have some outdated stuff so don’t consider them better.
nice
I just realized the R179 is more fat than the R143 and the R160
The R179....aka the Boeing 737 MAX of Trains
More like the Grumman 870s of trains...
LMAOOOOOOOO
Ok why did mta awarded the contract to bombardier???? Awarded that to Kawasaki or Alsthom maybe Siemens
Kawasaki and Alstom protested the awarding of the R179s to Bombardier, but this was overruled. Since then, Kawasaki has be awarded the R211 order.
I hope they didn't detach again in the tunnel 😅
I want the r 179's back but in safer conditions the display boards are brighter and overall trains nicer and widee.
These trains will be back in service in no time. MTA spend too much money on them to just throw them away.
These should be retired Period I knew from day one that these are problematic and MTA needs to Send R46 sets 5846 - 5878 back to Pitkin Yard
That joke is getting too old.
We won’t be seeing these lemons for a while *𝗵𝗮𝗽𝗽𝘆 𝗻𝗼𝗶𝘀𝗲𝘀*
For sure right!
nome
R179 Fix It To LED.
This comment section is going to be filled with formers soon
Concourse yard disliked the video lol because they only like r68s and r68as
bruhest They do not maintain A division trains. Trains on the 4 and 5 are maintained at Jerome Yard, East 180th Street, or 239th Street Yards, with 207th Street Yard for overhaul purposes.
JeremiahC99 R142s and R142As occasionally use like, 3 or 4 tracks of Concourse Yard.
@bruhest That's Jerome IRT; different division.
@@TheRailLeaguer Just because they are maintained at a specific yard doesn't mean they aren't stored at a different yard. For example, Concourse stores the B, but Coney Island maintains them. Same is true for Concourse for the 4.
History has it that Bombardier’s last success was the R142s.
R160: Am I a joke to you?
V.I.P: Racecar 001 Bombardier did not make the R160. Rather, R160s 8313-8712, 9233-9802, and 9943-9974 were built by Alstom, while cars 8713-9232 and 9803-9942 were built by Kawasaki. The entire feet has since become one of the two most reliable cars in the whole fleet (the other being the R188, another Kawasaki product).
R143?
ThatFruitPunchVyonder / Devon Collington They are also Kawasaki products, but these days, when it comes to reliability, it’s usually the R160 and R188 getting the spotlight on that.
So now R160 Will be Permanent in A C And E
Maybe,he just said for "long-term storage."Not Retirement.
No. The E, yes permanently, but the A and C, no.