Why Doesn't Moff Gideon Have a Star Destroyer?

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  • @terran6686
    @terran6686 3 роки тому +1782

    Pre Empire ship.
    Post Empire prices.

    • @Mr.Ekshin
      @Mr.Ekshin 3 роки тому +62

      Well sure. imagine going to a shipyard and asking them to build you a huge ship... and then trying to pay them with imperial credits? Something tells me they don't have the finances to do all this stuff when they aren't the ones printing the money anymore.

    • @batteredwarrior
      @batteredwarrior 3 роки тому +4

      It's an Imperial light cruiser... Not "Pre Empire" at all.

    • @notoriousblt1038
      @notoriousblt1038 3 роки тому +4

      @@batteredwarrior actually the light cruisers first showed up in the clone wars

    • @batteredwarrior
      @batteredwarrior 3 роки тому +4

      @@notoriousblt1038 actually, the Imperial Light Cruiser is NOT the same. It's developed from the Republic one, but is much more up to date.

    • @notoriousblt1038
      @notoriousblt1038 3 роки тому +3

      @@batteredwarrior It’s pretty much the same design

  • @akumaking1
    @akumaking1 3 роки тому +353

    I've had a thought for a really good Star Wars story:
    A Venator-class Star Destroyer is utilized as a mobile museum by the Empire, but after the Battle of Endor the ship becomes a mercenary repair hub targeted by all sides because of relics (ie Droidekas, "classic" Clone Wars ships, clone armor, etc)

    • @Obiwan7100
      @Obiwan7100 3 роки тому +45

      A Mandator-II class star dreadnought turned into a museum would be better, because it would have more space to store things from clone wars

    • @dylanwight5764
      @dylanwight5764 3 роки тому +30

      How about a Jupiter-class Battlestar? Wait...

    • @jaqdraco
      @jaqdraco 3 роки тому +3

      @@dylanwight5764 I was just about to post the same lol

    • @dylanwight5764
      @dylanwight5764 3 роки тому +5

      @@jaqdraco Don't get me wrong, I still would buy that story if it was on shelves. Love a good space chase story!

    • @jaqdraco
      @jaqdraco 3 роки тому +1

      @@dylanwight5764 agreed, a scaled up version, maybe even live action version, of the Rebels series would be great. Resistance tried to scale it up, but it's not really hitting the mark as well as Resistance being more aid at a younger audience.

  • @timezerohour8864
    @timezerohour8864 3 роки тому +494

    Well Gideon is Gus Fring and he runs an efficient setup. Why use the bloated Star Destroyer when there are better alternatives.

    • @topkat2134
      @topkat2134 3 роки тому +47

      Yea. Why run a big drug cartel when you could just hide it underneath a small chain of fast food restaurants.

    • @aggieoc3993
      @aggieoc3993 3 роки тому +10

      @@topkat2134 haha nice reference.

    • @burce8591
      @burce8591 3 роки тому +16

      *uses space food truck*

    • @angelwashere8864
      @angelwashere8864 3 роки тому +6

      @@burce8591 food poisoning the most dangerous weapon

    • @matthewcaughey8898
      @matthewcaughey8898 3 роки тому +1

      ISD screams Moff to be defeated and arrested. A cruiser says minor imperial officer that’s not worth the effort to try to bring down

  • @sandojones5903
    @sandojones5903 3 роки тому +2315

    He can't afford a star destroyer! All his money is tied up in his Chicken restaurants and his "side business"!

    • @DetectiveLance
      @DetectiveLance 3 роки тому +55

      Hey, gotta fund those operations SOMEHOW.

    • @BryantVonMiller
      @BryantVonMiller 3 роки тому +31

      Imagine the prices of ewok fur and meat after the fall of the empire. People gotta get their ewok furred coats to show off!

    • @staceylamont4129
      @staceylamont4129 3 роки тому +5

      Watch your words !!! Words can deep as any lightsaber.

    • @Mr.Ekshin
      @Mr.Ekshin 3 роки тому +19

      I thought he ran a giant superhero/pharmaceutical corporation.

    • @tuanvandersluis4433
      @tuanvandersluis4433 3 роки тому

      ok.

  • @BrickDevilTributes
    @BrickDevilTributes 3 роки тому +110

    In the 3rd episode, Gideon mentions "the fleet" when talking with Titus Welliver's Imperial character, so I imagine he has a couple in reserve along with a few other light cruisers. It's smart to not use ISDs as you mentioned, given that they're huge targets for both the New Republic and pirates.

  • @calenoch8813
    @calenoch8813 3 роки тому +631

    If he has one in reserve he would keep it hidden for all the reasons you pointed out

    • @official_pol2198
      @official_pol2198 3 роки тому +37

      I agree, Why would he need to be going around a huge star destroyer it wouldn't be practical.

    • @bladedninja8853
      @bladedninja8853 3 роки тому +23

      Would be difficult to conceal an entire capital ship under the New Republic's eyes

    • @nicomartinez9951
      @nicomartinez9951 3 роки тому +10

      @@bladedninja8853 that's probably it a smaller ship so it will be less noticed

    • @TheFortniteStorm
      @TheFortniteStorm 3 роки тому +12

      @@bladedninja8853 well the emperor hid thousands on exegol

    • @MacerXGP
      @MacerXGP 3 роки тому +6

      @@TheFortniteStorm Isnt that super deep core though

  • @dolfin5613
    @dolfin5613 3 роки тому +485

    they used too much of the budget on actors so they had to result to a light cruiser

    • @fathersink8837
      @fathersink8837 3 роки тому +62

      It can't be that, they have Disney money, which we all know doesn't run out

    • @GenerationTech
      @GenerationTech  3 роки тому +143

      lol i feel like jon faverau is just calling his buddies to come be in the show

    • @-skinner-6542
      @-skinner-6542 3 роки тому +21

      Filoni and Favreau probably just didn't want to use ISD again.

    • @jdkoz98
      @jdkoz98 3 роки тому +8

      @@-skinner-6542 favreau can do whatever he wants lmao

    • @plaguemaster308
      @plaguemaster308 3 роки тому +10

      @@fathersink8837 well disney did just lose 9 billion dollars in the last month and is bleeding every month

  • @Dale_The_Space_Wizard
    @Dale_The_Space_Wizard 3 роки тому +1599

    Perhaps he is not a real Moff and gave himself the promotion some time after the death of Palpatine.

    • @joeharvey4930
      @joeharvey4930 3 роки тому +118

      Isn't he just an ISB agent?

    • @marrqi7wini54
      @marrqi7wini54 3 роки тому +314

      @@joeharvey4930
      Even ISB agents like Callous had command of an ISD. He probably has one or more but he followed a simple rule.
      "Don't take what you can't afford to lose."

    • @shoeman6966
      @shoeman6966 3 роки тому +152

      @@marrqi7wini54 kallus didn’t have command of an ISD full time. He was given the resources needed to fulfill his mission. That’s why sometimes we see him in a destroyer, sometimes we see him in a light cruiser, and sometimes we see him commanding no ship. There is no evidence that Gideon was an ISB agent. We do know that he was an ISB officer. He faked his death, and most people thought he was executed for war crimes. Given this, he was likely more important and high ranking within the ISB than kallus was.

    • @plaguemaster308
      @plaguemaster308 3 роки тому +13

      Even if that he should have had an isd 2 or 3 ranks before moff

    • @whatarenames
      @whatarenames 3 роки тому +50

      @JosiexJosie My personal theory is that he's working for Thrawn, and Thrawn has him use the Imperial Arquitens for that very reason. An ISD is impractical, and resources are scarce at the current moment.

  • @cryptosporidium1375
    @cryptosporidium1375 3 роки тому +1579

    Because being smol has its advantages. It’s why he is somewhat respectful to Grogu.

    • @TheLiamster
      @TheLiamster 3 роки тому +13

      You mean small not “smol”.

    • @oakenfort6547
      @oakenfort6547 3 роки тому +165

      @@TheLiamster smol

    • @DefinitelyNotEmma
      @DefinitelyNotEmma 3 роки тому +77

      I can indeed confirm that being smol is good

    • @Jonathan-du8fs
      @Jonathan-du8fs 3 роки тому +10

      He was not respectful to grogu

    • @ed-te1fp
      @ed-te1fp 3 роки тому +12

      Getting tasered and put in handcuffs isn't that respectful....

  • @stephen2501
    @stephen2501 3 роки тому +303

    Answer is: we don’t know that he doesn’t have one.... an imperial light cruise is faster to deploy for quick stealth missions like kidnapping Grogu

    • @Will-ef7cx
      @Will-ef7cx 3 роки тому +2

      He doesn’t have one

  • @themalibumessiah4596
    @themalibumessiah4596 3 роки тому +452

    He probably has one just has it in hiding why would he show the enemy his cards if he's currently in hiding

    • @Mr.Ekshin
      @Mr.Ekshin 3 роки тому +23

      He realized that Rian Johnson made star destroyers and other huge capital platforms obsolete. I mean, why would you build huge ships like that when any old garbage scow with a hyperdrive and a grudge can take you out in an instant?

    • @DimaEgorovRU
      @DimaEgorovRU 3 роки тому +25

      Nah he’s only a scout enforcer for a really bad boss, the boss that will emerge at his defeat or death will be Grand Admiral Thrawn who is the real brains behind remaining empire. I’m confident that his actual star destroyer is actually hidden... yes! But I feel it’s with a fleet. The seventh fleet “THRAWNS FLEET”

    • @jamilbarbee6169
      @jamilbarbee6169 3 роки тому +3

      @@Mr.Ekshin honestly all this falls on George Lucas I've always had the question of what happens if something going ftl or light speed crashes if George Lucas would've created concrete rules an laws in starwars it would be much harder for people to mess it up or misinterpret

    • @Mr.Ekshin
      @Mr.Ekshin 3 роки тому +12

      @@jamilbarbee6169 - Nothing with MASS can move faster than light. To move from one place to another faster than light can get there, you have to bend space which has no mass.
      This means that when you engage a hyperdrive, your ship never moves any faster than it was going before you engaged the drive. When you emerge from hyperspace, your ship is traveling at the same speed it was going before.
      Try to engage a hyperdrive and bend occupied space (ie: space with another ship in it), and I suspect your hyperdrive would shred itself or otherwise fail.
      In Lucas era, hyperdrives were only engaged once a ship was in space. Suddenly Disney has them doing it in planetary atmospheres, inside hangar decks, and also ramming things.
      It's obvious that Disney never stopped long enough to consider the ramifications of what they were doing to the previous plots. They only saw an opportunity for a cool special effect, and an all too convenient plot point.

    • @jacksmrt8551
      @jacksmrt8551 3 роки тому

      yeah if I remember correctly weren’t there secret remnant fleets and such (I believe I heard this in legends). if that’s the case he or at least some other remnant has a destroyer out there

  • @aaronford4159
    @aaronford4159 3 роки тому +181

    Moff Gideon doesn’t need a star destroyer he is simply built different

    • @nicomartinez9951
      @nicomartinez9951 3 роки тому +5

      Notice they are in new Republic space so it's best to use quick ships then bulky ISDs

    • @jigolocana7492
      @jigolocana7492 3 роки тому +2

      And also their resources are limited so a star destroyer is a waste of resources

    • @kenneth9452
      @kenneth9452 3 роки тому

      @@jigolocana7492 The New Republic were hunting them down to build their StarHawks

    • @NaqrSeranvis
      @NaqrSeranvis 3 роки тому +2

      Exactly. Moff Gideon is Star Wars' evil version of Commander Shepard, so he needs a -stealth frigate- light cruiser, not a battleship

  • @harryrichards2114
    @harryrichards2114 3 роки тому +160

    i always thought he was under the command of Thrawn after ashoka was asking about him during season 2, maybe Thrawn only allowed him to have a light cruiser as he knows that a ISD isnt suitable for what was supposed to be a retrieval job, maybe he'll get one eventually when the remnants realises a larger force is needed

    • @JimmyPunkWrestling
      @JimmyPunkWrestling 3 роки тому +8

      That'd make hell of a lot of sense. Although we must not forget that Palpatine it's still pulling the strings from the shadows. Maybe Thrawn's just a puppet of Palpatine without even he being aware of it, as Snoke is too. Nevertheless, Palpatine is still building ships (The Rise of Skywalker), but the time's not right yet to show them.

    • @nicomartinez9951
      @nicomartinez9951 3 роки тому +10

      @@JimmyPunkWrestling Thrawn is no pawn

    • @JimmyPunkWrestling
      @JimmyPunkWrestling 3 роки тому +1

      @@nicomartinez9951 I said maybe. Anyway, Palpatine was Darth Sidious, so insidious that he used people as puppets and pulled strings from the shadows and not even the puppets were aware that they were Darth Sidious puppets. Remember that name not just Sheev Palpatine, not just The Emperor, but the Sith Lord Darth Sidious.

    • @logancaudill2457
      @logancaudill2457 3 роки тому +3

      @@JimmyPunkWrestling Thrawn would still be no puppet of palpatine

    • @JimmyPunkWrestling
      @JimmyPunkWrestling 3 роки тому

      @@logancaudill2457 How do you know?

  • @lamario295
    @lamario295 3 роки тому +796

    I'd lose my shit if an SSD showed up

    • @bryonmontgomery6199
      @bryonmontgomery6199 3 роки тому +136

      I'm going to lose my shit when the Chimera drops out of hyperspace over Tython at the end of Friday's episode.

    • @DefinitelyNotEmma
      @DefinitelyNotEmma 3 роки тому +56

      I want the Eclipse to be Canon ;~;

    • @rooke1489
      @rooke1489 3 роки тому +32

      SSD? Do you mean ISD? Or do you mean super star destroyer?

    • @DefinitelyNotEmma
      @DefinitelyNotEmma 3 роки тому +60

      @@rooke1489 he means the Super Star Destroyers of the Executor Class

    • @srivatsanprabu6211
      @srivatsanprabu6211 3 роки тому +31

      @@bryonmontgomery6199 I whould love for thrawn to show up

  • @happyexiled
    @happyexiled 3 роки тому +47

    Moff Gideon left his Star Destroyer back at the Los Pollos Hermanos parking lot

  • @generalgrievous2782
    @generalgrievous2782 3 роки тому +80

    I took it and added it to my collection.

  • @dylanwight5764
    @dylanwight5764 3 роки тому +197

    Don't worry, Gideon has a whole Arc Hammer in his trousers.

  • @mud7941
    @mud7941 3 роки тому +4

    I know no one will care, but I really want to thank the entire team behind Generation Tech for all the work they do. I just wrapped the first season of my Star Wars Audio Drama (12 episodes, 47 cast members, 10+ hours of run time) and relied on your videos for a lot of research. Thank you guys for all that you do. Your hard work is very appreciated.
    (It's called Mud79 by the way, and is a story told from the Imperial perspective 3 years after the clone wars if anyone was interested.)

  • @ceTarnity
    @ceTarnity 3 роки тому +276

    I find it hard to believe a man with dark troopers is struggling to run smaller operations.

    • @fate3071
      @fate3071 3 роки тому +29

      Unless he spent the majority of his funding and resources to construct them.
      They even said in the episode that the darktroopers have to sit in standby mode because they use too much power.

    • @ynyrjohnson3861
      @ynyrjohnson3861 3 роки тому +7

      @@fate3071 probably the case. He could probably only either afford an ISD or the darktroopers

    • @fate3071
      @fate3071 3 роки тому +9

      @@ynyrjohnson3861 that and finding a shipyard capable of building an ISD that wouldn't immediately be rooted out by the new republiv

    • @ynyrjohnson3861
      @ynyrjohnson3861 3 роки тому +2

      @@fate3071 true again, as those kinds of installations only existed in or next to large concentrations of old empire military forces, and so the new Republic probably knew of them and would have siezed all of them already

    • @alphariusfuze8089
      @alphariusfuze8089 3 роки тому

      @@ynyrjohnson3861 Even the New Republic knows about, as long as it doesn't threaten the core world they just won't care.

  • @cooperlevinson8149
    @cooperlevinson8149 3 роки тому +228

    Also what is Moff Gideon the moff of? Is it Mandlore because that would explain a lot of things.

    • @euansolaru5247
      @euansolaru5247 3 роки тому +95

      Probably the sector around mandalorian yeah

    • @theforgotten9288
      @theforgotten9288 3 роки тому +17

      I think mandalore was destroyed. If it wasnt, why wouldn't the mandolorian have taken grogu there when trying to find one of his kind? Or why would his guild be put into hiding like we saw in the first few episodes? And it just seems like it's gone from the way the characters talk about it

    • @ryancarrell3186
      @ryancarrell3186 3 роки тому +64

      @@theforgotten9288 the Empire has total control of it. if it was destroyed, Bo Katan wouldn't be trying to retake a pile of rocks. besides, he considers it a lost cause and doesnt think any mandalorians even live there anymore.

    • @cooperlevinson8149
      @cooperlevinson8149 3 роки тому +5

      I think they used the duchess from star wars rebels in the Great purge

    • @nazgul4014
      @nazgul4014 3 роки тому +22

      The Forgotten as shown in earlier episodes of the season. Mando is from a splinter faction of Mandalorians... so he believes Mandalore is gone, and his way is “the way”

  • @PaulJWells-ud2eq
    @PaulJWells-ud2eq 3 роки тому +34

    Logistics is the ONLY topic to discuss concerning warfare. Remember, an army travels on it's stomach.

  • @readhistory2023
    @readhistory2023 3 роки тому +14

    Moff has a sticker on the bumper of his ship that say..."My other ship is a Star Destroyer"

  • @NiraSader
    @NiraSader 3 роки тому +27

    Pretty sure we just haven’t seen his ISDs yet, there wasn’t a reason to deploy such a vessel for missions like that on Tython

  • @AntonymicallyCorrect
    @AntonymicallyCorrect 3 роки тому +458

    I can't wait for this video to age badly when a small fleet of Star Destroyers shows up to rescue Moff Gideon on Friday

    • @GenerationTech
      @GenerationTech  3 роки тому +129

      Lol maybe

    • @caedes4367
      @caedes4367 3 роки тому +28

      That would be funny

    • @sabo4055
      @sabo4055 3 роки тому +10

      I was going to comment that this is a risky upload since every thing can change Friday

    • @nicomartinez9951
      @nicomartinez9951 3 роки тому +4

      Or a ssd

    • @bocahdongo7769
      @bocahdongo7769 3 роки тому +11

      I mean, it is still relevant since the ISDs only show in the urgent situation whereas the daily driver is still the Light Cruiser.
      It is pretty much like "Why you don't daily drive an M1A2 Abrams"

  • @maxmustermann-zx9yq
    @maxmustermann-zx9yq 3 роки тому +19

    "we grant you the rank of moff but you wont get a star destroyer"

    • @slavicity
      @slavicity 3 роки тому +1

      "We grant you a position on the council, but not the rank of Master."

    • @isaackim7675
      @isaackim7675 3 роки тому +2

      GM Tarkin, “Take a seat, Moff Gideon.”

  • @Valkaiden
    @Valkaiden 3 роки тому +168

    Or he does have one. Only a fool shows their whole hand in the first round.

    • @mohammadkhan3230
      @mohammadkhan3230 3 роки тому +27

      Similarly, he could have one and just not be using it as his personal transport ship. You don't pull your battleship off the front lines just because you're gonna go pickup a baby somewhere.

    • @alphacentauri3069
      @alphacentauri3069 3 роки тому +1

      You do if you’re holding a royal flush my friend

    • @Mr.Ekshin
      @Mr.Ekshin 3 роки тому +20

      Only a fool builds huge superweapons in the Disney era. They've already shown us that any hyperdrive equipped ship can split those megaships in two like they were made of warm butter. Thanks again Rian Johnson, for ruining the universe.

    • @Kjf365
      @Kjf365 3 роки тому +2

      @@Mr.Ekshin That was literally a capital ship. ISD sized. And it didn't even make a clean split in the SSD. It broke apart on impact. I don't like the movie, but that's not a valid criticism.

    • @Mr.Ekshin
      @Mr.Ekshin 3 роки тому +8

      @@Kjf365 - Holdo's ship was about 1/12,000 the size and displacement of the Supremacy. That's like a large housefly ramming into you and ripping you in two.

  • @canvey6758
    @canvey6758 3 роки тому +77

    He ain’t got enough rydomium to fuel a star destroyer

    • @evanveres7483
      @evanveres7483 3 роки тому +8

      I wonder why..,,😀

    • @samsav2866
      @samsav2866 3 роки тому +3

      Wait until you see the big mine I’m the unknown regions

    • @canvey6758
      @canvey6758 3 роки тому +2

      @@evanveres7483 erm idk maybe because the empire turned into an insurgency after the battle of endor
      Edit: I’m joking ik it’s because mayfeld blew up their only rydonium cache 😂

    • @evanveres7483
      @evanveres7483 3 роки тому

      @@canvey6758 lmao I know

    • @canvey6758
      @canvey6758 3 роки тому

      @@evanveres7483 ik I just didn’t wanna come of like an asshole or something

  • @dinejoker99
    @dinejoker99 3 роки тому

    honestly the way u view differnt topics and break it down to its basic level is why i love and follow this channel. i always walk away with new knowlege

  • @jaredbanister369
    @jaredbanister369 3 роки тому +8

    The emperor should have listened to thrawn he was right about the need for small Fighters that could inflict massive damage. When thrawn went missing the emperor and tarkin decided to agree with krennic death star which was a revised design of what the geonosians made. Vader continued on believing similarly to thrawn not thinking as arrogantly as the emperor.

  • @fyodorvoloshin568
    @fyodorvoloshin568 3 роки тому +1

    Makes perfect sense from a tactical standpoint. He is highly mobile and able to conduct special operations with his Dark Troopers. And let's not forget that for a poorly defended world even an Arquitens cruiser is a threat. This model does have turbolasers, lasers and missiles.

  • @Obiwan7100
    @Obiwan7100 3 роки тому +23

    with each generation the Mon Calamari Star Cruiser are getting more and more massive, do you believe that the next generation of cruises will be able to transport more than 200 starfighters?

    • @Obiwan7100
      @Obiwan7100 3 роки тому +1

      @MeNames PoshOpossum9484 do you believe that the next generation of Starfighter from the successor government of the new republic will be more expensive than the previous one?

    • @Obiwan7100
      @Obiwan7100 3 роки тому +3

      @MeNames PoshOpossum9484 The T-85 X-Wings of the new republic cost 220,000 credits, The T-65 X-Wing of the rebel alliance costs 140,000 credits. in these 30 years, starfighter prices have risen sharply. A B-Wing from the rebel alliance costs 220,000 credits, a resistance B-Wing may cost 260,000 or 300,000 credits. taking into account that the price of starfighters is increasing at least currently the price of starfighters has increased, do you believe that it keeps increasing?

    • @TrveBlackMetal1
      @TrveBlackMetal1 3 роки тому

      @@Obiwan7100 30 years passed, maybe we're just talking normal inflation here

    • @Obiwan7100
      @Obiwan7100 3 роки тому

      @@TrveBlackMetal1 I think the starfighters got more expensive, because now the heroes control the government of the galaxy, maybe they have a budget to buy more expensive starfighters, remembering that the rebellion used scraps.

    • @kirkdavis2881
      @kirkdavis2881 3 роки тому

      Hello there

  • @steampunker7
    @steampunker7 3 роки тому +3

    A good break down and reasonable explanation. Star Destroyers, though impressive and powerful, really only work if you've got the resources to stock them and clear, defined targets to throw them at. During the reign of the Emperor they were as much symbols as they were machines of war. Their appearance an unspoken but very clear message that whatever the situation was the Empire was taking a direct interest and wasn't screwing around. That alone was enough to frighten entire worlds into submission as not only could just one of those beasts take on entire fleets of less of lesser ships and bombard a planet back to the stone age, but if you challenged it more would most likely be on the way.
    With the Imperial government and chain of command fractured and resource chains now uncertain such juggernauts would become both impractical and expensive to field save to re-enforce already controlled assets. And as proud and arrogant as some Moffs, admirals and warlords were only the very foolish among them would risk the crown jewels of their fleets and powerbases by haughtily flying around in one.
    But in Gideon's case I think there's a psychological factor as well. My read of him is that he's something of a...collector of curiosities so to speak. From the Dark Saber to his folding wing TIE fighter, from his use of Dark Troopers to his hunt for Grogu, he seems to have an appreciation for the unconventional or exotic. Things that look innocuous or seem mundane yet carry great value or have surprising potency. Thus him using an Arquitens light cruiser for his personal command ship makes a level of sense as it's still in service but by then antiquated design would suit his aesthetic tastes. Yet it was also unassuming and would not tip off potential enemies as to exactly what they were dealing with.
    It's actually quite telling that such a high ranking Imperial official would use one speaks a great deal to his personality and mindset. After all, any ambitious brute can come stomping in riding a Star Destroyer. The one who sneaks in on a light cruiser is playing a much more subtle and higher staked game.

  • @haroldearlgray5629
    @haroldearlgray5629 3 роки тому +23

    Next episode he pulls up with a super star destroyer

    • @jurassickaijuking6761
      @jurassickaijuking6761 3 роки тому +3

      Then in Season 3 he pulls up with the Sith Eternal, than in Season 4 he has Starkiller Base, then in Season 5 he gets the Sun Crusher

    • @alphabilly5478
      @alphabilly5478 3 роки тому +1

      Then in season 6 he gets the star forge

    • @unknownalsounknown4238
      @unknownalsounknown4238 3 роки тому +2

      Season7 he gets a galaxy sized ship

  • @crazyeyez1502
    @crazyeyez1502 3 роки тому +5

    It would make sense to keep any ISDs he has hidden. He could have one has a main base, and use the smaller ship to run errands.

  • @christophernemeth421
    @christophernemeth421 3 роки тому +6

    Allen you have Moffs and Grand Moffs confused.
    There were thousands of Moff's as each controlled a sector.
    A Grand Moff ruled over Many several sectors and had Moffs under their command, usually sectors where problems occurred.. There were only a small

  • @mikecobalt7005
    @mikecobalt7005 2 роки тому +1

    As you mentioned and in the X-Wing novel series from years ago, after the death of Palpetine and the 2nd Death Star the imperial fleets increasinly fragmented as the fleets were hunted relentlessly. Showing an ISD in this era of Star Wars was a guaranteed way to attract *Everybody that dislikes you. If he does have one (Likely considering todays producers moto "Every show bigger, edgier and flashier then last time" it/they'll show when the studio wants to generate alot of Hype.

  • @edwarddorsey7723
    @edwarddorsey7723 3 роки тому +12

    Logistics: the key to Victory In war

  • @Titanelephantbird
    @Titanelephantbird Рік тому +1

    Imperial remnant forces in The Mandalorian
    *-* 1 | 546 class cruiser
    *-* 1 | Gozanti class cruiser

  • @taticaldroid9288
    @taticaldroid9288 3 роки тому +7

    I believe grand admiral Thrawn still have some star destroyers in this period like his Legends counterpart.

  • @scottbraun2457
    @scottbraun2457 3 роки тому

    Once again, I think you've nailed it. Even if, he has one, it's unlikely he has the budget, to fully mobilize it, and most likely, uses it, as an operational in title only, STATIONARY base of operations. As it is, it may turn out to be, what you see, is actually what he's got...piddley. His apparent command ship, is exactly that, his main, indeed primary base, and source of "IMPERIAL POWER".
    "He can't afford a bigger boat..much less, a boathouse, to put it in".

  • @imperiumcommentingnetwork4677
    @imperiumcommentingnetwork4677 3 роки тому +6

    The empire should've kept the Venator, but modified for an escort role.

  • @tobi841
    @tobi841 3 роки тому +2

    In episode 3 of season 2 of the Mandalorian Gideon talked about there being a fleet when Bo Katan was stealing the ship

  • @shaneedwards596
    @shaneedwards596 3 роки тому +5

    smaller ship, smaller signature.... faster to deploy, easier to hide, and perfect for clandestine natures of missions Moff Gideon needs....
    a star destroyer was the epitome of the empire saying "LOOK at me, fear me, for I have a bigger gun!"
    Gideon's ship using less resources and making less of an impact can navigate unhindered and also operate throughout the galaxy without drawing too much focus to their presence, and if noticed can alter its' signature ID to that of a repurposed or captured Imperial ship by smugglers or merchants...
    and would be a lot easier to hide in asteroid fields and such even near/behind moons in order to remain undetected....

  • @BretekV
    @BretekV 3 роки тому +1

    I think an alternate theory for why Palpatine wanted the imperial remnant to self destruct is to consider that maybe he wanted the republic to achieve victory as quickly as possible so that they would be more likely to become complacent quickly so that when the first order strikes they aren't able to respond. Of course, this requires considering the 3 Disney movies as canon which I know is somewhat painful.

  • @isaackim7675
    @isaackim7675 3 роки тому +5

    I think that a high-ranking Imperial has a right to choose his/her flagship. If I were an Imperial, I would choose a Quasar light carrier

    • @euansolaru5247
      @euansolaru5247 3 роки тому +1

      Incredible ship

    • @euansolaru5247
      @euansolaru5247 3 роки тому +1

      I’d choose an isd 1 for the throwbacks

    • @thinkwithportals5018
      @thinkwithportals5018 3 роки тому

      Wait... why the Dorito and not the Ton-Falk? Ton-Falk holds more starfighters and has better armor and point defense... Personally, I'd choose a Venator, you know, actually swarm the enemy with 100s of Ties...

    • @JohnDoe-vm2di
      @JohnDoe-vm2di 3 роки тому +1

      I’d choose a Venator as my flagship. Venators used properly can run circles around an ISD simply because of the sheer amount of fighters that a Venator can carry. Also, Venators require MUCH LESS crew compliment to run and are cheaper. An ISD may have stronger firepower capabilities and would blister a venator in a broadside, but if you can play keep away from the ISD, its 200+ fighter compliant would make short work of an ISD.
      The biggest mistake the empire made was discontinuing the venators and replacing them with a ship thats extremely resource heavy to run and can carry a fraction of the fighter capacity.

  • @pozgaming4665
    @pozgaming4665 3 роки тому +1

    A lot of people have already pointed this out, but it's quite possible that Gideon does indeed have a Star Destroyer, or maybe even a handful, but either has them in reserve due to strained supply lines or is simply holding them back as a trump card in case he really needs them. On that note, this would be an excellent place to fully bring the Victory-class Star Destroyer back into the mainstream. It's a smaller, less crew-intensive, less fuel-straining, less notable, but still powerful Star Destroyer that would make perfect sense for Gideon to have in his back pocket.

  • @Gothberg3765
    @Gothberg3765 3 роки тому +3

    The first order formed from the empire in wild space which is east of the outer rim, not in the unknown regions.

  • @howlingdin9332
    @howlingdin9332 3 роки тому +1

    Short answer: ISDs eat up a ton of resources and manpower to operate. Even if Gideon has one he's not going to use it if he doesn't have to.
    His light cruiser has worked fine in situations where an ISD would have been overkill. He's fighting small bands of mercs, not going to war with the New Republic.

  • @svijj_
    @svijj_ 3 роки тому +7

    Moff Gideon is full of suprises. My reactions to some of his appearances were always like this:
    "Ah, shit, his TIE has folding wings"
    "Ah, shit, he has Deathtroopers now"
    "Oh come on, he has THE DARKSABER?!"
    "Oh great, he has an Arquitens now"
    I wouldn't honestly be suprised even if he would have an entire fleet of Super Star Destroyers

    • @JimmyPunkWrestling
      @JimmyPunkWrestling 3 роки тому

      He's like trying to top off Darth Vader without being a Powerful Sith and has replicated most of Darth Vader's imperial accomplishments. My guess is that his interest in Grogu's midichlorian count is because he wants to become a force user too so he can even replicate Darth Vader's force abilities and be the Next Darth Vader.

  • @NEVERMAKESVIDEOS3V3R
    @NEVERMAKESVIDEOS3V3R 3 роки тому +1

    I think he likely has a few ISDs hidden away somewhere, but uses his Arquitens exclusively for travel and transport of small missions. An ubiquitous light cruiser that has been around since the Clone Wars is a lot easier to ignore than an ISD.

  • @almostunliketea
    @almostunliketea 3 роки тому +8

    Honestly i would watch a battlestar galatica type show where a lone star destroyer has to survive as it flees to the unknown region of soace

    • @neniAAinen
      @neniAAinen 3 роки тому +2

      any imperial show will do.
      Rebelsrebelsrebelsrebelsandmore rebs is becoming annoying.
      Less annoying than jedi-jedi, but annoying nevertheless

    • @flaviomonteiro1414
      @flaviomonteiro1414 3 роки тому

      Maybe a Venator

    • @maximusy8311
      @maximusy8311 3 роки тому

      Yes, of course, the all mighty *soace*

  • @vonneely1977
    @vonneely1977 3 роки тому +1

    Same reason that US state governors don't have their own aircraft carriers. "Moff" is actually a civilian job - the military title just to keep consistent with Imperial government rules of placing military ranks above civilian ones. They can only express their desires to actual military officers (admirals, generals) whom draw up plans to make it happen. Taking direct command is not their job.

  • @chrisaguilera1564
    @chrisaguilera1564 3 роки тому +6

    With a crew of 37,000 required for each ISD maybe he lacks the resources to secure one. The imperial remnant are comprised of the most die hard of imperials and I imagine most would have defected.

    • @ExecutiveSonda
      @ExecutiveSonda 3 роки тому

      That number is honestly really retarded.

    • @OrDuneStudios
      @OrDuneStudios 3 роки тому

      37000 to run a full watch routine. You coukd stretch it out with probably half as a skeleton crew

  • @Angry_Squirrel555
    @Angry_Squirrel555 3 роки тому +1

    Moff Gideon is just a chess piece for Thrawn. He’s good for an end and when his usefulness runs out he’ll be sacrificed for the greater end. Have no doubt that Thrawn is still alive. I’m sure that we’ll see him in the Ahsoka series, but most likely as a cameo in The Mandalorian to not only help the story along but to give a tease for (again) the Ahsoka series.

  • @troublefollows9986
    @troublefollows9986 3 роки тому +5

    Moff Gideon has a destroyer .....it's just in the shop now.

  • @SwitchStryke
    @SwitchStryke 3 роки тому +1

    well, this might be a spoiler to most people but Ahsoka did mention something about Thrawn. Plus, in this era that the mandalorian takes place in. A big star destroyer would look out of place and since they are pretty slow. X-wings could take it out pretty easy and we don't really know how many tie-fighters are still around and how much Moff Gideon could get a hold of. Plus, Star destroyers need a large crew to keep them running. like you said so. This just not the best thing right now. Im sure Thrawn still has his somewhere.

  • @chronicles3028
    @chronicles3028 3 роки тому +10

    Its so sad how 25,000 ISD's were just crushed in legit 1 movie

  • @STARKILLER0925
    @STARKILLER0925 3 роки тому +2

    Becuase he’s not a real moff, all the moffs died on the first Death Star 9 years (I think) previously. He promoted himself to moff after the fall of the empire. He probably was just a admiral or commander who had the cruiser.

  • @godzillakaijuboy
    @godzillakaijuboy 3 роки тому +30

    short answer: Its too expensive
    Long answer: Its too expensive and there are better alternatives

    • @Death-bd1tl
      @Death-bd1tl 3 роки тому +1

      One doesnt draw their trump card in the first round

    • @Kjf365
      @Kjf365 3 роки тому

      Short answer: he probably does have one
      Long answer: he probably does have one but chose the Arquetins because it better suited the mission.

  • @Engine33Truck
    @Engine33Truck 3 роки тому

    I like your assessment. Since first seeing his ship, I figured his reasoning, while he would certainly have the pull to get an Imperial class or even a surviving Executor class, is that he wanted something small, fast, easy to hide yet big enough to accomplish his goals.

  • @Spartan120
    @Spartan120 3 роки тому +9

    None of it will matter as long as Mando gets an old man with a thermal detonator next to Gideon.

    • @Vulturefist
      @Vulturefist 3 роки тому

      Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, BOOOOOOOOOOOM! 😁

  • @aviatorengineer3491
    @aviatorengineer3491 3 роки тому +1

    I doubt it'll happen but I think it would be really cool to see Gideon's forces eventually turn out to actually have a larger, older ship like a Venator or something under their command - less brute force than an ISD but far more flexible, smaller crew, and still has enough mass and presence to be a big message saying "don't fuck with us".
    There's still the matter of Thrawn, too - with the way he's been treated in the story of The Mandalorian so far as the mysterious leader of this Imperial faction, I think he's bound to have something up his sleeves.

  • @Melkerliden
    @Melkerliden 3 роки тому +20

    He might have some clone wars ships like an Aclemator or Venator. Like in the old ledgends

    • @Melkerliden
      @Melkerliden 3 роки тому

      Have

    • @caedes4367
      @caedes4367 3 роки тому +3

      @@Melkerliden u can edit comments

    • @Melkerliden
      @Melkerliden 3 роки тому

      @@caedes4367 thanks for the info werry nice of you

    • @gadget19k76
      @gadget19k76 3 роки тому +2

      Or he could have some Victory class SDs smaller and generally more versatile ships but not as tough of intimidating.

    • @Melkerliden
      @Melkerliden 3 роки тому +1

      @@gadget19k76 thats a valid point

  • @Lyze
    @Lyze 3 роки тому

    Light Cruiser was more than enough ship for the mission. It can handle anything that it's likely to run across in the outer rim, presumably it's speedy and relatively low key. And it's not like the Moff is going into space combat, he's running around doing a fetch quest essentially.

  • @ertymexx
    @ertymexx 3 роки тому +10

    How DARE you pick on poor ISD!! *hugs and comforts poor starship from bullies*

  • @murderouskitten2577
    @murderouskitten2577 3 роки тому +1

    0:39
    I think Alan is mistaking Moffs for Grand Moffs :D
    There is a big diference :)

  • @KimekaKuroyukiCH2nd
    @KimekaKuroyukiCH2nd 3 роки тому +3

    Well if y’all are wondering what is moff Gideon the moff of, he actually wasn’t a moff. He was a high ranking ISB officer, not even agent. After EP’s death he granted himself the rank of moff. That’s all we know of at least.

    • @ddpzzp553
      @ddpzzp553 3 роки тому

      where is this said

    • @KimekaKuroyukiCH2nd
      @KimekaKuroyukiCH2nd 3 роки тому +1

      @@ddpzzp553 tell me why you disagree with a widely known FACT said by hundreds of youtubers and commenters? You can’t? Ok, now go and complain to somebody who cares about your ridiculous question.

  • @uhsund
    @uhsund 3 роки тому +1

    Would be nice if we some Remnant (either Gideon or Thrawn) have a small fleet of the more obscene and less popular imperial star destroyer, frigates, and cruisers, the Empire had some small unique ships that would look great on screen.

  • @soupxv213
    @soupxv213 3 роки тому +13

    Damn last time I was this early my wife had my friend over for a surprise hang out

    • @Metallic-Sun
      @Metallic-Sun 3 роки тому

      I read the last two words as hangover. Lol 🙃

  • @RobertSela
    @RobertSela 3 роки тому

    The Arquitens was his base of operations for finding the child. He may very well have Star Destroyers in hiding, keeping them operational but not active. In A New Hope we never saw anything beyond single ISDs and the Death Star, while the actual Imperial Fleet was revealed in the films to follow. Similarily, in the Mando S3 pilot, there could be a scene where the Moff returns to his actual fleet kept in the background. There are a lot of parallels from Gideon to Vader, who as we all know was commanding a normal ISD for day-to-day stuff and kept his real fleet and flagship in reserve.

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion 3 роки тому +3

    To make things work for the Third Republic and to satisfy Mon Mothma's anti-war policy, the demilitarization be limited to just half of the Republic military only. Because there will always be other half to response in case a threat like the First Order emerged.

  • @tatemiller9603
    @tatemiller9603 3 роки тому +1

    well he was a isb officer which is possibly why he had a small amount of ships. or he has could not get his hands on a ISD because the remaining "moffs" were now warlords and took claim on the main fleets. i am 100% sure that pre death of the emperor he had a fleet or at the least he had 1 ISD.

  • @rhett5058
    @rhett5058 3 роки тому +14

    He didn’t spec into major manufacturing or high enough scavenging

  • @Nova0827
    @Nova0827 3 роки тому

    I always assumed it was to stay as hidden as possible but still have fire power to do his covert ops. Arquitens(or However it’s spelled) are pre empire, can land on planets, are much easier to hide, very well armed for their size, and cheaper to run while rebuilding. It just always made sense that even if he had one he wouldn’t use it at least not yet

  • @QurikyBark32919
    @QurikyBark32919 3 роки тому +6

    I bet he does, but we haven’t seen it yet

  • @blocky_luke
    @blocky_luke 2 роки тому +1

    Moff Gideon's light cruiser is actually 2x bigger than a regular one.

  • @ralsei66
    @ralsei66 3 роки тому +11

    military faction in mandalorian: *exist*
    Generation tech: you know the rules and so do i. Making videos lets start

  • @thebighurt2495
    @thebighurt2495 2 роки тому

    I think in Legends they said it took the GDP of an entire Medium-sized system to pay for one ISD. It also doesn't help that the RA/NR's primary capital ship was the MC80, which habitually carried a substantial strike craft contingent. 1v1, my money would be on the MC80. All they had to do was engage the ISD at extreme range (which wasn't hard considering the MC80's speed) and rely on it's strike craft and ludicrous amount of shielding to take out the ISD through attrition.

  • @fatzlebowski1549
    @fatzlebowski1549 3 роки тому +4

    This Jobber reminds me of the Asian guy in "Better Off Dead" who learned to speak English by listening to Howard Cosell

    • @fate3071
      @fate3071 3 роки тому

      What are you on about?

  • @kenle2
    @kenle2 3 роки тому

    I always thought there were hundreds, if not thousands of Moffs.
    We see huge numbers of Senators in the Republic/Imperial senate and each Moff is a "Sector Governor", representing (according to some Legends material) 50 or more inhabited worlds.
    What was new was the Idea of GRAND Moff's, whose authority covered multiple sectors. Something Tarkin suggested to Palpatine to deal with cross-sector insurgencies.

  • @ionutmerauta4007
    @ionutmerauta4007 3 роки тому +8

    I think that he didn't have enough resources to have an ISD

  • @sdmurphy315
    @sdmurphy315 3 роки тому

    Moff Gideon seems to favor a small yet mobile group to get his objectives completed very similar to the Rebels. He seems to have learned from the failure of the Tarkin Doctrine and a switched gears to the dark trooper program teamed with small strike groups.

  • @Armann_
    @Armann_ 3 роки тому +5

    Likely under Admiral Thrawn's grasp.
    *Edit:* Excuse me. Grand Admiral Thrawn.
    Thrawn's fleet is hiding, but it constitutes as a tactical fleet. That includes at least (6) Star Destroyers, First-Class. Beware of this threat, if Thrawn is doing something; it's very calculated.

  • @hohuamcarthy369
    @hohuamcarthy369 3 роки тому

    There were way more than just twelve moffs in the empire. There were actually about 20 grand moffs, one for each imperial over-sector. These twenty large areas of space were divided into a total of roughly a thousand or so smaller sectors. These sectors were led by regular moffs and sector governors (the two roles were similar). All of these individuals answered to the grand moff that ruled their over-sector.

  • @warriorwolf77
    @warriorwolf77 3 роки тому +4

    He moffballed it

  • @admiralboot
    @admiralboot 3 роки тому

    I'm calling it this way:
    He's trying to stay hidden, quiet. Hell he might have one stashed somewhere else, but the Arquitens is his go-to for small ventures like this.
    Imagine how the NR would react if an ISD showed up.

  • @shanenolan8252
    @shanenolan8252 3 роки тому +4

    There is supposed to be 5 thousand ISD in the unknown regions ( empires end novel)

    • @lomiification
      @lomiification 3 роки тому +1

      All on that one planet with Palpatine, and who knows where he got the resources for then

    • @shanenolan8252
      @shanenolan8252 3 роки тому

      @@lomiification yes . I read some of the books and visual dictionarys , they claimed he had agents in the major corporations like sienar and kuat who transported material to factories and shipyards for assembly. Which is ridiculous and pointless as palpatine already controlled the first order fleet and controlled most of the galaxy. Rey in last jedi said they would control every major world in week . Who were they planning to fight everyone surrendered

    • @unknownalsounknown4238
      @unknownalsounknown4238 3 роки тому

      @@lomiification no not5000 but 1k xyston star destroyers

  • @tomcat124us
    @tomcat124us 3 роки тому +2

    As Booster Terrik found out running ISD Errant Venture it takes to much money and people to keep an ISD running purply.

  • @grandsome1
    @grandsome1 3 роки тому +4

    He's on a budget, you wouldn't use your Ferrari to do the groceries when you're also on a budget.

  • @pduidesign
    @pduidesign 3 роки тому

    The Arquients cruiser doesn’t really look like an Arquients cruiser in the Mandalorian. It is similar in shape (but the bottom is much bigger) and it’s about 6 - 8x larger than the Arquients specs. The shot of the Dark Troopers exiting it in “The Tragedy” shows the massive size of the ship and an Imperial Shuttle could never land INSIDE an Arquients because it wouldn’t be able to fit. For that matter the cruiser didn’t have a hanger deck of tie fighters and a seperate hanger that could fit an x-wing. In the animated shows the shuttles and TIE fighters would dock outside. This is a seriously beefed up version or a new ship altogether.

  • @Dragonfire-tn2jg
    @Dragonfire-tn2jg 3 роки тому +11

    Why would he, in the star wars universe a single fighter can destroy one.

    • @fate3071
      @fate3071 3 роки тому

      Only after having the shields knocked out and getting past the turbo lasers and other point defense systems

  • @Straswa
    @Straswa 3 роки тому

    Great vid Gen Tech! I like that Moff Gideon doesn't have an ISD and uses an Arquitens.

  • @jeffreyhunnewell1652
    @jeffreyhunnewell1652 3 роки тому +5

    Well, millions of imperial personnel were killed, so mass promotions for everyone!

    • @lowlifeangler
      @lowlifeangler 3 роки тому

      Covid-19,. Alot of ship builders got laid off

  • @AndorRadnai
    @AndorRadnai 3 роки тому

    Fuel consumption, general size, speed maybe, crew size, supplying said crew…
    Just a few more reasons to add…
    It’s all in all a very Good video on an interesting topic..!

  • @admiralhydra519
    @admiralhydra519 3 роки тому +5

    My theory is he just chooses to use his heavily modded Arquitens because of how bad ash it is. Its everything he needs in a ship smaller and more maneuverable than an isd but larger and much more powerful than a stock Arquitens

    • @admiralhydra519
      @admiralhydra519 3 роки тому +3

      Also a cruiser is much smaller than an isd and won't draw mutch attention because of its smaller size

    • @admiralhydra519
      @admiralhydra519 3 роки тому +2

      @Xtream Gamer55 nah...
      Supremecy

  • @darrenklein6742
    @darrenklein6742 3 роки тому

    Could you do a breakdown of Gideon's cruiser. It seems larger than a normal Arquitens. It has a hanger bay that can land a Lambda shuttle, that was never something we have seen in the Clone Wars or the Rebels. It probably has heavy modification but still the hanger space is pretty large, so the light cruiser has to at least have been enlarged a little. That is just what i have noticed, though a breakdown would be interesting to listen to.

  • @masonruhlen
    @masonruhlen 3 роки тому +9

    Woah less then a minute. Never been this early before

  • @Riceball01
    @Riceball01 3 роки тому

    Regardless of why Moff Gideon might not have an ISD, I like that we finally get to see something that's not an ISD in a live action Star Wars production. I thought that it was really cool when they first showed a Gozanti on this show and got even more excited when they showed an Arquitens, two of my favorite Imperial ships.

  • @tombassett
    @tombassett 3 роки тому +3

    Hi

  • @The_Cookie_Crumbles
    @The_Cookie_Crumbles 3 роки тому +1

    I'm just glad we saw a live action Arquitens Cruiser.