You knocked it home kevin. I was 12 years old at the Champaign mall and saw star wars. I saw it forty times in that theater. I was known in sixth grade as the 'star wars kid'. Star Wars changed my life. I had open heart surgery two years ago, and the only reason I am still here is because I wanted to see this movie. Now that I have seen it, with my dear old friends, I can die happy. Would love to see the rest of the new ones coming out, but I got what I wanted from this planet. Thank you Kevin Smith, you are an upright cool guy, and you give this old man hope for humanitys future.
The part that kills me every time with Chewie is the relationship he MUST have had with Ben. He was probably uncle chewie. He was there when his best friend's child was born. Watched him grow up, probably protected him like he was his own. But the SECOND Ben killed Han he was in SO much pain, he didn't see the kid he'd known. He just knew the man who'd taken his friend from him and pulled the trigger.
That comic strip of that scene should be canon. After Kylo kills Han. Chewie has a killshot but he remembers Ben Solo as a baby and a kid. Playing, caring...then he couldn't bring himself to kill Ben so he shoots him in the hip.
+Ben Grieve there should be romantic comedy with Chewy's family. . . like the first few minutes of the holiday special, but 2 hours long. . . and of course without subtitles.
+Corey Eacret i think from all the years of podcasting hes done now he literally can't help himself. it's essentially a nervous tick at this point. I wonder if he says it in conversation even when hes not talking about a movie.
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SPOILERS: Hey, Kev, as much as the bloody handprint adds to the dramatic atmosphere of the Stormtrooper scenes, I think a more important part is that it visually distinguishes Finn from the other Stormtroopers. Without it, you have a bunch of identical looking troopers, and your audience keeps having to think about whether the trooper they are watching is the traitor or someone else.
+Vincent Sontohartono i think he got that...they honestly could have did multiple things to make him distinguishable from the rest...but that visual in particular was beautiful...with how art works, the flow, contrast, compliments and the over all story telling...the story telling on a few different levels...like many other scenes in this movie it was a stunning shot.
+Vincent Sontohartono For me him having no neck make him easily distinguishable, lol... he stood out for me right away. Loved the movie and Fin, but he looked goofy in the trooper armor.
I love kevin he seems almost afraid of talking about the film. Really reminds me of the beginning of "The Gladiator" where Marcus Aurelius talks about the future of Rome ;-) you can almost just take the word "Rome" and switch it with Star Wars. "There was once a dream that was Rome. You could only whisper it. Anything more than a whisper and it would vanish... it was so fragile. And I fear that it will not survive the winter."
+Kasper Mygenfordt I avoided all images, posters, trailers, toys, and rumors about the film before release. After I saw it, day 1, it still was second nature to me to look away from any Star Wars content that I saw. It's a hard habit to break, after so long.
A small but very important detail in the ray kylo fight is how enraged ray looks in her face as she is overpowering him. Ppl dont like how she beat him, but how many times have sith talked about hate and anger giving power. And thats EXACTLY what she was tapping into. And maybe thats why the ground splits them apart before she kills him.
Im talking about common themes found throughout star wars being integrated into the actors performances in a specific scene of the movie...?.... Did I ever say Kylo is a sith? Or that Ray is? I was making an observation, spaz.
+DuesX187 Stuff like that doesn't get put into the movie by accident. If it was wrong it would get cut out. And JJ had a advisor with him the whole time, a complete Star Wars geek who knew all these little details. I think you've found a major plot point for the next movie.
+DuesX187 Yes, I saw her get a sneer on her face as she butt-whooped him & I sat up & took notice. She looked like Luke in a rage when he clobbered his Pop. That's when the Emperor said: 'your anger's made you powerful'. Rey will be tempted by the Darkside; Kylo will be tempted by the Light. They will tempt each other. By Episode IX, Kylo will convert or she will kill him if he doesn't (if Chewie doesn't kill him 1st).
+DuesX187 It also seems like Kylo wears the mask not only because he looks to Vader for inspiration, but more importantly it's probably to hide the likely common signs of personal inner conflict apparent in much of his character to begin with, that would undoubtedly be all over his face, as it often is without the mask.
i really cant be the only one who realized it was a rehash of the first movie. not an homage, not a spiritual successor, just a fraternal twin to a new hope. why was that necessary? or at the very least, why didnt they make it less obvious? visually it was nice and most of the acting was good, but storywise they could have been more creative and less predictable. it was good but not nearly as good as people are giving credit for.
dued27 yea, that's him. A few days ago on Twitter he said his fantasy is to see Chewy hunt Kylo Ren down with a badass scottish claymore, lightsaber.. lol
I think Rey is a clone created from Luke Skywalkers arm. Whoever found the blue lightsaber also found Luke Skywalkers arm. C3PO said R2D2 is basically dead and needs Luke Skywalker present in order to come back to life. The moment Rey walks into the Resistance base camp, R2D2 comes back to life and wakes up to complete the map. That should explain why the lightsaber is calling out to her at the cantina 2.0. Maybe to a certain extent, the blue lightsaber thinks it's Luke Skywalker. That should also explain why she didn't need formal Jedi training to pull off some of the stuff she did (handling of the lightsaber, almost defeating Ren, Jedi mind trick w/ stormtrooper).
+shinzu4001 ....the very first scene of the "flashback" is Rey in a laboratory hallway and Yoda's voice in the background. I have no idea how to explain that 🙈🙃👊
+Hime Najarro That hallway is actually Cloud City circa The Empire Strikes Back. That scene is definitely strange, but I think the point is that Rey is having a premonition in which she sees past, present, and future.
Makes sense you married a beautiful brunette. I wanted to marry Princess Leia when I was kid too . . . particularly Slave Leia because marriage is all about slavery. :/
Excellent movie. The only thing that kinda bugged me was that there were no Y-wings, A-wings, B-wings, TIE interceptors, bombers, defenders, advanced, etc. It was just...TIE fighters v. X-wings.
It's a good point, but its one of those things where it never seemed like there was an intricate enough battle to need them. Bear with me here. compared to the destruction of the two death stars this one seemed kind of simple, maybe they just didn't need the extra firepower? Just a thought
Lord Tesram I agree with you regarding the aerial rescue during the assault on Maz's "Mos Eisley"...X-wings were enough and A-wings would have been a nice addition but not required. However, the assault on the star killer base had to have Y-wings and B-wings... I mean it was a bombing mission.
Kevin, you are my hero. I could go into a thousand different tales of dark places and even darker thoughts, where everything was brightened by your movies or your Q&A's, but I won't. Instead I'll simply say thanks for being a beacon of positivity as well as hope. You are a great man sir, thank you very much for being you.
One scene I was hoping Kevin would mention is when Kylo seems to be punching his Bowcaster wound in pain to gain more rage while fighting against Rey and Finn. Seeing the blood splatter in the snow as he is doing it. Star Wars is back!!
+Filip Matevski this scene is the scene that clenched the "Rey is Lukes Daughter" theory for me. I've watched it 2x now...going for a 3rd on saturday...and look at Kylo and Rey's faces when "the lightsaber chooses". Kylo is shocked...and so is Rey. Both of them are standing there with "What the hell just happened" looks on their faces. Earlier when Kylo is digging in her head he says "you've been dreaming about the ocean...i see the island" then we find out Luke is on an Island in the middle of an ocean. In the Cantina...the lightsaber calls out to her and then the lightsaber chooses her.
+Don Naughton Well the lightsaber was Anakin's originally, it's the blue one not the green one Luke made. Kenpbi disarmed Anakin to take the blue saber so it may be possible that Rey is a Kenobi.
The one prophesied to bring balance to the force wasn't Anakin or Luke,........ it was J.J. Abrams. This movie brought back memories of standing in line outside the walk-in in 1977 to see Star Wars. I was 12, there were vendors there hawking Star Wars stuff to people in line, my Mom bought me a Hilderbrandt Star Wars movie poster that I had on my wall for years. I agree with Kevin 100% about this movie. It's the real deal.
Kylo Ren being "torn apart" and "in pain" (his words) by his internal battle between the light side and the dark side is EXTREMELY interesting. I love a villain that isn't in complete control and is conflicted, makes for a great character and arc. I'm a softy so it's hard for me to say I like it more than Anakin's fall (going to the dark side out of love), but I do think it's more interesting! Kylo Ren is awesome.
Agreed, Kylo ain't no Darth Vader. At least not yet. And maybe Han trying too hard to bring him back to the light actually helped him fall. But you can really tell, at least for a moment, Kylo is genuinely torn in his choice...a part of him wants Han to take the lightsaber...but in the end the Dark Side, wins out. Here we get to see Kylo's darkest moment, and even then he later seems to shows some compassion to Rey. Definitely fitting for a character who identifies so much with Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker, who ended up redeeming himself at the end.
+TheEmeraldSword Yeah, it does seem like it. But I really hope there's something more to it. I mean, that's the first thing that comes to mind, right? I'd like them to surprise us. like they did with Kylo! And c'mon, there's a certain amount of reveals involving family lineage that I can take seriously before I start questioning how big this galaxy far far away actually is...
+TheEmeraldSword Does anyone else think Rey could STILL be Han and Leia's daughter? The way Han looked at her and reacted to her seemed very fatherly...maybe he was terrified of telling her about her lineage given what happened to Ben. Still don't 100% buy that Rey is Luke's kid. The setup and parallels between Rey and Kylo seemed much more brother/sister than cousins. ALTHOUGH the way that Maz said that the lightsaber used to be Vader's, and then Luke's, and is now her's, nearly confirms that she's Skywalker's daughter.
Kevin Smith's reactions were so much fun to watch! Lol, this movie seemed to heavily impact a lot of people who watched the first 'Star Wars' in 1977. I won't blame them since it was seriously something that no one has ever seen before until that movie came out.
Just want to say Thanks to BOTH marc and kevin for providing the awesome fat-man on batman, I have enjoyed listening to passionate people talk about passionate things for the geeks to enjoy. come to florida please
[SPOILERS] I disagree about Rey. Let's compare her to Luke from A New Hope: Luke loses his family, his home and a mentor and destroys the Death Star to become a hero of the rebellion; Rey loses nothing because she starts from nothing, and spontaneously becomes a Jedi who saves a lightsaber. Finn and Poe are a better representation of Luke's arc from A New Hope split into two characters. Rey's character is overpowered. _Oh, did we forget to put a Jedi in for the obligatory lightsaber duel? We'll just give it to Rey. She's saved our characters from all their other problems._ Luke was an inexperienced young man. He was a bit whiny, young people are whiny. It gave him room to grow. Finn and Kylo Ren are the most satisfying characters in the movie because they struggle and change as characters, which makes them relatable. Rey doesn't change as a character. She has spontaneous Jedi powers, but how does it change her character? She was already badass, now she's more badass. Did you see her fly the Millennium Falcon? That was badass. She's capable from the beginning to the end. She's has the attitude of Leia + Han Solo with the power of the force comin' out the wahzoo. She's almost certainly Ren's sister.
Wow I am kinda shocked you had to sit front row? I would have thought you could have seen it a better way? a preview? I am guessing tickets were sold out?
+HappyConsoleGamer Oh. Right. I should also say that according to Twitter, he got an invite to the premeir but he had a comedy show to go do, so he had to see it like the rabble.
+the7thlevl I actually thought that Sanitation wasn't about being a janitor but his unit was in charge of "Sanitizing" villages and enemies of the First Order. How many janitors get training with blasters? It also explains why he is so scared of the First Order, and doesn't hesitate to blast his former squadmates.
+the7thlevl I think sanitation was just being a janitor BUT all Trooper are trained to kill regardless of their domestic duties or assignments on base.
You didn't talk about the *SPOILERS* amazing part where Kylo Ren is trying to use the force to get into Rey's head and she fights back and she never heard of Darth Vader but she tells Kylo Ren so clearly "you're afraid you'll never be as strong as Darth Vader" that part gave me major chills and I think it's pretty awesome how Kylo Ren is the opposite and is fighting the light to be Dark JJ did amazing in this movie sadly I hear he's not directing the episode 8
+Stephanie Avila JJ has said that he did not want to move to London and be away from his kids for 10 years. This way he sets the tone and Executive Produces the universe from LA.
That reveal of Poe coming in and taking out like 6 tie fight and a couple stormtoopers then Finn yelling "That's one hell of a pilot!" gives me goosebumps every time. Even typing about it.
Chewie shooting Kylo Ren is even more powerful when you think that Ben grew up with Chewie in his life. He probably held him up on his shoulders as a kid and shit. That's so powerful to think.
What is wrong with so many people on this feed - I've seen the movie four times with multiple different people of all ages and it's just tremendous - a wonderful, fun, blast of a ride with great acting and some nostalgia and the STAT WARS I've been waiting for since I was a kid. Lighten up / this movie was tremendous and the trilogy will be amazing.
+Curt Leng Just my perceptions, I saw it yesterday and was absolutely thrilled and touched to the core.. to me it was amazing , epic and fueling the sense of wonder again!
Why is everyone raving about Abrahms work? Honestly the movie was good, but not great. It was safe, it took a similar story arc to a New Hope, and kylo is a hipster looking cry baby who should of kept his mask on, Phasma was a joke, and the fact that both Finn and Rey can use a lightsaber with no training and take on Kylo who is suppose to be a trained Dark Force user who can cleary stop a blaster shot in mid air, but can't defeat a untrained force sensitive Rey? Makes no sense! Also after how many years the best thing they can come up with is a bigger death star called star killer!? Very original..... Honestly! and wait, it gets blown up by finding a weakness with X wings! We have seen this before in new hope and Return of the Jedi, and now here. Think of some new shit! There is no need to recycle old shit. I hope that the next two are better cause this one wan't anything special if you really cut it deep with a knife. I love Star wars but this just didn't do it for me
+RossardJames Finn when he faces the Stormtrooper and first uses the Lightsaber as a weapon he seemed too comfortable at times with technique etc like he has used one before. He even knew how to turn it on. It would of been better in my opinion if some how he was panicking to turn it on and at the last min as the storm trooper comes and goes in for the attack he manages to accidentally turn in on killing the trooper. He ran in balls to wall with that thing. Even though Rey is Force Sensitive and strong with the force like Luke and Anakin, she became too comfortable to quickly in using it with absolutely "NO" training. Luke and Anakin both needed training from Obi wan and Yoda to control their powers and she finds out the force is real and goes hmmm I'm a give it a shot and see what happens and over powers a stormtrooper and Kylo in retrieving it? Also why didn't Kylo stop Chewys cross bow blast like be did before in the movie? Kylo was pre-occupied at that point too :)
+B DON Not only that, but Kylo paralyzed Rey with the force when he captured her. Did he suddenly forget how to do that when he fights her and Finn at the end of the movie?
This review is a 40 minute extension of the joy of seeing the movie. Nobody else could have brought this to life like you did here. I teared up watching your review as much as I did watching the movie. Anyone who sees the movie should follow it up by watching this. Absolutely frikkin' AWESOME. May the Force be with you!
+jacobcook7 No, but it's become so much the cool thing to do to hate on them that few people probably even bother to express the opinion anymore. As to this review, yes the movie gets the old feel of SW, but not much more in my opinion. It's very shallow in terms of showing anything really new and I've had no interest in seeing it more than once. But I saw Phantom Menace several times when it came out. TFA feels more like a reboot/introduction to me now for the hopefully more interesting movies to come.
No, you're not the only one who loves 1,2,3. I think it's funny how Kevin Smith says here that he's not back peddling and enjoyed them when they initially came out..but then back peddles by saying he recently rewatched them, grimaces and says "Yipes." lol
Nah, you're not the only one. But as far as recapturing the feel of the original trilogy? The prequels managed this feat MAYBE a few times across all three movies. But Force Awakens did this with just one film. It's all opinion of course, but to me, the prequels really didn't matter. We already knew how they would end, and what we got seemed like 90% phoned in money-grabbing crap (thanks Lucas) with 10% left for an actual interesting story. Now Star Wars is going into completely new territory, and for a lot of us that's exciting...for others I suppose it's scary.
Great flick. For those who feel Rey is "too perfect" now, keep in mind she also has all the Luke issues from Empire that Snoke can exploit - too old, a strong emotional connection with Finn already that Snoke could *easily* manipulate to get her to do something stupid, & when she finds out Han was her either uncle or dad who was murdered right in front of her the dark side anger should rise. She's the chess piece Snoke is gonna want; Luke has his work cut out to keep her centered.
+Aditya C - in a sense he kind of is. He's chosen this Dark Side path for some reason, and his whole deal is that at some level he hasn't entirely come to terms with that. He's desperate to prove to himself and to Snook that he's this force of pure evil, because deep down he knows that he's not. I think even killing Solo isn't going to do it for him. It's gonna be one of those things where he thought doing this thing was finally gonna seal the deal, make him the man he wanted to be. But even that can't change who he _is_. If anything, he's probably gonna be feeling guilty about it, it's gonna be staring him in the face reminding him every day that he's not the guy he wants to be.
These are all interesting points, which I hadn't considered. I guess we should all wait anyway to see where they take this character, in 2017, with Episode VIII.
"[Rey]'s not whiney!" Were we watching the same movie, Kevin Smith? She ran away from a vision. Luke didn't listen to people, and he abandoned his training at a few points, but he did it to save people. Even when he was being selfish, he was being a hero. Rey just ran the fuck off into the woods. And why? They could have done the whole imperial sequence without that. She could have stayed in the bar, and gotten separated during the assault, and then all the rest of the scenes could have remained the same. Instead she got scared and ran, serving no purpose except to satisfy the conditions of the Hero's Journey.
+joffrecordan Seems like Rey can't win with some people. Some say she's a Mary Sue and others complain she rejects the call to action for selfish reasons. She has a character arc and doesn't have to be super heroic for 100% of her first film, and to point out the obvious: running away from something is not whining. She never whined once in fact, she showed genuine fear of that vision (understandably so, it was pretty upsetting and replayed a very painful memory for her as well as showing a massacre by the guy she will be face to face with very soon). She is a different take on the hero archetype which Luke also fits into but isn't she just isn't Luke.
The movie was fantastic. Ignore the haters...they complain it was too similar to Episode IV, yet they also complain the Prequels were too different! Good Lord, some people just can't be pleased at all
I liked the prequels more than this film. I thought this film was incredibly lazy and rushed. The prequels would have been much better films, had they casted someone else for Anakin, gotten rid of the Gungans, and had diminished the Anakin-Padme relationship and removed all the stupid dialogue. To fix this movie, I would just suggest rewriting the whole plot.
One thing I noticed in this film was the deepness in the characters. For example, I felt like I knew Han Solo way better only on this movie than on all the other 3 movies with it. Just simple things, simple dialog lines, but masterfully written, that made all the difference in knowing the characters. Rey and Ren are excelent characters! Really complex and misterious. Finn was also very well accomplished, being the first 5 minutes enough to know about its personality. Overall, that's what I loved the most in this film. Of course, the acting was top notch, which helped a lot in what I mentioned before.
I am very surprised at the amount of negative reviews I've seen for Force Awakens. I'm glad Kevin Smith you agree with me that it was awesome. And even though I didn't see Star Wars until it was rereleased in 1997; it (VII) made me feel like a kid (I was 9 back then) again. And the more I read about it (and seeing it a second time), the more I loved it. I want to see it a third time!
Ive watched it twice by now. Cant wait for the third time! :) And ive been thinking. Just as a standalone movie, i think it can be viewed by anyone that havent seen star wars before. I just think though, because i have seen all SW prior. What you guys think? Can you show this to someone that doesnt know SW? And it will do well? I believe so. Its so well done. The atmosphere, the music, the timing, the acting.... all of it.
Loved the Stormtoopers in the beginning being transported to the surface. Sort of reminded me of what Stormtoopers would be in a Starship Troopers dropship scene, or the Marines going to the surface in the Aliens movie except with a Star Wars feel. Probably more like Starship Troopers.
I swear Mr. Smith. You and I feel exactly the same way about everything especially this new movie. You review it exactly like I talk about the movie. lol
And you obviously cringed when Han gets it like I did the first time. The second time I watched The Force Awakens I didn't look away and it was gruesome watching Han Solo impaled. I missed that and a touching little touch on Kylo Rens face. Ahh the feeling He must have felt knowing his son just killed him. I couldnt imagine. This movie probably gave me every emotion possible you can feel. Even non star wars fans say it made them feel like kids again. love it
+Noah Cocke I had a hard time processing the rest of the movie after that. I did manage to focus right there at the end. A co-worker of my friend came with our group and that guy was crying. We got up at the end and i was like man, i missed a good five minutes or so of it because it pissed me off so bad. He was like, yeah i don't know how to take all of this, and then he just left. Poor fella.
Finally someone giving a positive review, I feel the same way about it that you do. These movies will never be 100% what we want so we just have to get stoked on the parts we love about it.
Brian Alvarez It's what makes the most sense. My buddy who is another big Star Wars nut said that Ewan McGregor's voice can be heard in the flashback sequence during Force Awakens. Idk if that's true, but imo Obi-Wan makes the most sense. We know that Luke had been training a new generation of Jedi after Vader was destroyed and we all know that the Jedi code forbids love and relationships as we learned from the prequels. And since Luke was such a die-hard Jedi would've likely followed the code in order to focus training the Jedi. Obi-wan living so long by himself on Tattooine he might've had a relationship despite being a Jedi himself but his circumstance being so different from Luke's might've deviated from the Jedi code to pursue a relationship. Obi-Wan makes more sense than Luke. Besides, after we find out Luke and Leia are brother and sister it would be kind of lame to find out that Kylo Ren and Rey are also siblings. Learning more about Obi-wan's past on Tattooine to reveal that he had a kid would make more sense and be better for the story.
+zamardii12 I feel the same way. Rey is Kenobi's granddaughter. The reason Han acts the way he does is she is spot on just like Padme/Leia. She reminds him of his lost love.
Louisville UAV JJ Abrams in an interview even said that they used Alec Guinness's voice and Ewan McGregor's voice on top of each other during the flashback sequence when they say "Rey, this is the first step." Cements my theory.
I'm 47, I saw the original Star Wars in the theatre at like 9 years old, perfect timing, original fan. I liked it. I recognize they had some familiar things like, how many familiar things were in the Fast And Furious films ? They're taking you back to a familiar place, some things need to be familiar. Too much, too little, whatever. Not important. I like the new movie. It was fun and it felt gritty like the first three. Okay the first two lol thumbs up for force awakens from an OG fan. Looking forward to what's next ✌️
Funny, I felt like Chewbacca's reaction to the death of Han was too mild. He seemed to scream louder on Hoth when the base doors closed and fought harder when he was about to be frozen in carbonite. It was a really good movie, not as good as any of the original trilogy but better than any of the prequels. And it was nice to see a new Star Wars movie that was not just all "green screen" overload like the prequels.
It's not fair to a movie goer or the movie to automatically compare it to the OT. I hold the OT in high regard, as well. But mainly because it blew my mind I watched them from the ages of 4-10 and never looked for plot holes and flaws (although the OT is full of them) in movies. I had nothing to compare those movies to as a kid, because they were the only SW movies that existed. Now, they're like old friends of the family I've know for 38 years. Now they just introduced a pretty cool member of their family that I think just met, but I haven't known that family member as long, so of course I'd be closer to the the older friends. Doesn't negate the fact that that new friend is still pretty cool. Plus, as a kid, I didn't nitpick. I just had a blast watching fun amazing SW movies. Going into this, I pre-set my brain to that mindset and came out of the theater ready to get back in line for TFA again and can't wait for the next one.
+Eric Ruby Yeah, this is what I keep saying. You can't really compare this movie to the old ones when there's 38 years of nostalgia build-up, or simply from when you were a kid at any point in time. I first saw the original trilogy when I was 3-4 years old, back in 94-95. TFA just can't measure up to that. Even so, I freaking loved this movie, and the generation that's been introduced to SW via TFA might love it as much as the fans of the originals love them.
Kev, Please PLEASE erase the word "spoilers" from your vocabulary. People watching the video in the first place are not going to care about spoilers. So you dont need to say it 50 times.
THIS WAS THE WROSE STAR WARS MOVIE EVER. A KID WITH NO PARENTS(LUKE/REY) LIVING ON A DESSERT PLANET, AND IS GIVEN A LIGHT SABER BY A WISE OLD PERSON, HAS A FIGHT AT A BAR, AND ESCAPES WITH HAN AND CHEWIE WITH A DROID WITH TOP SECRET PLANS. VADER/KYLO KILLS OBIE/HAN(MASTER/FATHER), WHILE ESCAPING WITH A GIRL LEIA/REY, AS A GROUP OF X-WINGS DESTROYS THE EMPIRES SUPERWEAPON BY FLYING DOWN A TRENCH TO ATTACK A WEAK POINT. AT THE END, LUKE/REY GOES TO TRAIN WITH YODA/LUKE. IF YOUR A MORON THAT HAS NEVER SEEN "A NEW HOPE" THEN U WILL LOVE THIS REVAMPED VERSION. THE SPEICAL EFFECTS ARE GREAT BUT ITS THE SAME STORY....HOW HORRIBLE!!!!! HOW PATHETIC ARE YOU THAT YOU CAN'T COME UP WITH ANYTHING NEW!!!
+jettesjettes Fanboys are never objective. Don't let it get to you. People freaked out about how great The Dark Knight Rises was too until they thought about it for a while and realized how un-Batman it really was. Same thing will happen here once the "new" wears off.
I feel like star wars is doomoed cuz all we have to look forward to are re-writes of the olds stories and jar-jars. This new star wars should be canned-canned. How can the combined powers of Lucas and JJ not create a new story??? there is no hope for star wars,. Darth Jar-Jar has taken control
+jettesjettes Even though they straight copied ANH, they couldn't even build the characters like ANH did. VII was so rushed. Pew pew pew, nah I'm outta here yo. Pew pew pew I think I feel something tingly inside me. Pew pew pew Nooooooooooooo. Pew pew pew oh look Luke Skywalker.
I'm a Star Wars nerd and I'm glad they didn't use the eu. There was too much complicated stupid stuff in it. I can still read my Eu stuff that I like whenever I want, but I'd rather be surprised and not know what's going to happen.
Kevin what are you talking about? Luke and Rey are complete opposites. No that I want to get into the Mary Sue thing, but in terms of good character development and getting us to see a person grow, Rey goes through ZERO arc as a person.
Ummmm what? She goes from being a spectator and waiting for her family to realizing that if she wants her life to change then she has to do it herself- and the "family she is looking for is not behind her, it's ahead"
As someone who is new to the Star Wars universe, I absolutely enjoyed everything about this movie. The prequels didn't have as big of a negative impact on me because I knew this one was coming, but wow, this movie blew me away. And I never realized how badly I want Chewy to fuck up Kylo Ren until you mentioned it. Oh please let that happen.
I really like kylo, but he's not anikan. to put it in as needy terms as possible, kylo is chaotic evil, very emotional and unpredictable; vader is lawful evil, very cold calculating and cruel. young anikan needs a different origin than the terribly acted one he got, but he should be more frank underwood than kylo ren
He's no sith, he beat up the storm trooper, and he fought both of them after taking a bowcaster shot to the gut. Bear in mind he's the only thing in the movie that survived being shot by that thing.
Here's some Deep Cuts for you. Lucas used to talk about "Hero with 1000 Faces" and the Heroes Journey outline that comes from it being a huge inspiration in his early work; The Dark Night Of The Soul portion of the Journey mentions metaphorically going into a dark cave to face the thing - usually fear - that holds the hero back. Lucas took this literally in "Empire..." when he had Luke face the Degobah Vader in the cave while Spirit Obi and not-dead-yet Yoda chit-chatted. "...Journey" talks about how characters will often kill their progenitor (dad's for sons and mom's for daughters, usually) in order to surpass them and move forward in their journey. Oedipus is one of the better known classical examples of this. Kylo Ren *has* to kill Solo in order to make the next stage of his journey, as suggest by "Hero With 1000 Faces", one of the core inspirations for the entire Star Wars Universe. Deep Cuts, bro.
I don't buy how Rey is so gifted in the force before she has any real knowledge of the nature of the force. I liked the part where she pulls the Jedi mind trick from a purely visceral level but again how does she even know about the concept of the Jedi mind trick before she has received any training? She only knew the force as a vague myth but she manages to summon advanced methods of the force through only intuition. Even Luke had to be trained before he could really do anything special with the force. Kylo while not yet a Sith had received extensive training from Luke and later Snoke yet this chick with no prior knowledge of the force defeats him by using the force. Perhaps this will be explained later but for now it makes no sense that she has such knowledge of the force itself. I did really like the movie though and I liked the Rey character but its not above a critique at this point.
I mostly agree with you, but i will point out that Luke summoned his lightsaber in Empire without any real idea that it was possible or even an example to go by. He needed to do it and so the force was with him.
+mercuryman67 Luke at least had some training from Obi. He struggled to get the sabe to move a couple of feet. Rey just instantly grabs it from miles away. Kylo was forcing everything, he was no hack. He made Rey pass out, threw her in to a tree, froze her standing ... Then suddenly she grabs the light saber - pre-wig out. what? then Kylo forgets to use the force to kick her ass. Then, she wigs out mide fight and becomes a jedi. Why find the map/luke when she does not need any training. Rendered the whole story pointless
+mercuryman67 Luke had training Rey just figured out the force is a thing from a non force user. It's like becoming a pro baseball player from a minute conversation with a guy who coaches mini league it makes no sense.
She didn't know of the mind trick. What I noticed was that Kylo Ren was pushing as hard as he can to break her will, and she in turn was resisting as hard as she could. Think of two energy beams colliding and bouncing back and forth trying to overpower the other. Eventually Kylo Ren proved to be weaker willed(although the novelization explains that while searching her mind for the image of the map he stumbled upon a huge secret, which was implied to be the key to her identity and it distracted him) and Rey's exertion overpowered him for a split second and she got inside his mind, hence the Darth Vader comment. And Rey was just as shocked at what she did, but she probably thought if she concentrated enough maybe she could do it again to someone weaker and overpower their mind, hence the storm trooper
+Bernie Lomax Hey man, not trying to insult you or anything but there's actually very good reasoning behind the Obi Wan father theory. I can link it to you if you want.
+The Wierzbicki More than 30 years has passed since Obi Wan died. Rey is obviously early 20s tops, so the timelines don't match up at all. So where does it make sense that Obi Wan force ghosted some woman's pussy and had a kid? A grandkid, maybe, but no way he is the father (at least where it makes any damn sense).
MARA JADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maaaarrraaaa JAAAAAADEEE!!! Just imagine if they introduced her and Kylo Ben Ren kills her at the Jedi Academy in a flash back.
ToroidalVortexLove So is the "han solo's son becomes a sith" thing but you see they clearly swiped a few ideas from the old EU already. JJ is heavily leaning on the EU to cover a lot of the Resistance backstory and the fact the film really glazes over the First Order destroying the New Republic Capital.
***** Oh don't worry I never read them much either I just peruse the Wookiepedia every now and then. I think I read Shadows of the Empire, the first Darth Maul book, the book that explains why the trade federation attack naboo better, and the one immediately after RotS about Vader. starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Caedus
Great video guys ,very nice to see a review that doesn't rely on flashy CGI effects ,Just A person talking into a camera, and speaking with passion and honestly, knowledge and skill, thank you.
+Skipper Tripper no because the movie was amazing yes it had the same basic plot as the original but so what. The originals didn't have amazing acting or an amazing story and the plot holes present in the originals are in the TFA. The acting in TFA was amazing and the humour actually hits home. If you go into any movie expecting a master piece you will be disappointed. If you think you could do better make a Kickstarter and see how fast it fails
George Lucas himself said it was a "safe move" and that "there wasn't anything new" in TFA. I'm a true fan, I grew up with the original trilogy and second one was bad, but this one its just for MONEY, a very well done copy-paste.
Kevin smith I don't watch or like most of your movies except die hard one you was in, but as a big Star Wars fan and collector your one amazing fan and lover of these empire of a movie dynasty brother you rock!!!
Did Kevin watch the same movie that I did? While Daisy Ridely was absolutely amazing in her role ,how is it that (SPOILER) Rei was able to use the force while being completely untrained? Luke went through THREE movies before he was able to best Vader. Yet Rei, dare I say it, was "entitled" to the force?? She beats a weakened Kylo Ren who literally stopped a laser blast in min air?? Must I go on? Gimme a break...
TFA sucks! Horribly written. No Focus. Bad Bad Bad! A total ripoff of the orginal film. Plot holes aplenty. Written by a committee rather than a single person with a VISION!
+fuckgoogle+ Hmm...lets see...*SPOILERS* An orphan who lives on a sand planet discovers a droid that has secret information hidden inside. The orphan becomes a protege of an older guy who has ties to the events of the past. Theres a cantina scene. Later, the older guy is slain by a dude in black with a red lightsaber while the orphan watches helplessly. Meanwhile, the "resistance" tries to destroy the enemy's new superweapon that is able to destroy entire planets. Yep that took a lot of thought.
this is the first mention i've seen anyone make about Kylo Ren stopping the blaster bolt. it was THE moment for me that solidified Kylo Ren as the badass he is. everytime i see it i have to pick my jaw up off the floor.
It's one thing to make nods towards Episode 4, but these writers straight up ripped off A New Hope. So lame, used an entire episode that could have shown us life after Vader and all we basically get is more of the same thing. Say what you will about the prequels, but at least they opened up the universe and made it feel less claustrophobic.
+SuperStig 7 I disagree. I thought the prequel trilogy "opening up" made the saga feel more cluttered. I like the small, focused story of the original trilogy far more. And while The Force Awakens has some similar story beats to A New Hope, I felt that the overall story was new.
The movie for me was just ok. The movie felt rushed. More emphasis on action and movement of the plot and less investment on character development and time required to even give a crap about them. More time taken to introduce characters and explain some of the plot lines would have been a huge benefit to the film.
+BC M Hes not supposed to be intimidating that is the point. Hes a poser trying to be like Darth Vader that is why he wheres the mask, but he isn't anywhere near as powerful as Vader.
I don't understand why people don't understand his casting. He is supposed to be spoiled misguided kid who idolizes the wrong relative. He hasn't fought any real Jedi, he was strong with the force so didn't have to work for the strength he has. Plus the first order treats him like their golden boy lol he even throws temper tantrums like a child so why would you expect anything less when he took his helm off
+Casey Moore He through a couple of little temper tantrums like a 7 year old girl. Plus he almost got punked by a janitor stormtrooper. Kylo Ren was just as annoying as Anakin in the prequels. That "you need a teacher" line? Fucking laughable dialogue and acting.
+Bernie Lomax I actually liked that dualism. Most of the time he appears to be a smoothie Mr evil, but he's fragile, tortured...emotionally unstable. So keen to do some Kylo cosplay...
She is related to Obi Wan somehow. They both have english accents as the only ones, they are strong with the force, especially mind control of storm troopers, both old and young kenobi yell to her during the flick, and a bunch of other stuff
She could be Palpatine's grandchild, they have the same stabby fighting style. And it could be the hook to recruit her to the Dark Side - 'Luke killed your Dark Side parents' or sth...
I would be so disapointed if Kylo Ren isn't redeemed because its like Han dies for nothing it would be better if he was like a matyr for his son so that he could come back to the light
What if it was Kylo's plan to take down Snoke from the beginning and had to sacrifice his father to gain trust from Snoke so he could see him in person and kill him. Remember, he wants to finish what Vader started, AKA killing Sith like Vader killed Palpatine.
+Evgeni Brosvik I thought it a lot. When they used torches in the village. The end red black and standing before their army. I'm sure there was more but it just seemed like a history reenactment.
+Jpstudmuffin93 not as obvious though. Even fin was a bit hmm FB hmm even what's he called paused before naming him. Like black and FB a little close to the line don't you think.
+experiment54 well it was talked about in the extras from the original trilogy that the empire was supposed to mirror the nazi regime. I would suppose the first order would follow closely.
I thought it was little more than the most expensive TV Pilot ever made. But I'm in the minority LOL I did really like John Boyega, Daisy Ridley, and the guy who played Poe. Those three actors and their characters, I really loved. But everything else reminded me of something a TV Development Executive would create by writing story beats on note cards and rearranging them, until he figures out wtf his story is. Having said that, I'm very happy that most people seem to really enjoy it. And I hope the kids really like it.
+Cory Weston They could be siblings, Han and Leia's son turning to the dark side was taken from the EU, maybe their other child becoming a Jedi is as well. Not to mention, it seemed like the film established a connection between between her and Han and Leia, she had Han's piloting and engineering ability and Leia's force sensitivity. There was also the bit where Kylo read her mind and saw that she thought of Han as the father she never had, then there's the scene at the end where she and Leia seem to share an emotional bond. My money's on her being Kylo's sibling.
Also, a great point was made. The locations and costumes were 100% on point. Nothing got to flashy or "new", yet the story was COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. That was the key. The second tril, imo, was relying on the ethos.
You knocked it home kevin. I was 12 years old at the Champaign mall and saw star wars. I saw it forty times in that theater. I was known in sixth grade as the 'star wars kid'. Star Wars changed my life. I had open heart surgery two years ago, and the only reason I am still here is because I wanted to see this movie. Now that I have seen it, with my dear old friends, I can die happy. Would love to see the rest of the new ones coming out, but I got what I wanted from this planet. Thank you Kevin Smith, you are an upright cool guy, and you give this old man hope for humanitys future.
The part that kills me every time with Chewie is the relationship he MUST have had with Ben. He was probably uncle chewie. He was there when his best friend's child was born. Watched him grow up, probably protected him like he was his own. But the SECOND Ben killed Han he was in SO much pain, he didn't see the kid he'd known. He just knew the man who'd taken his friend from him and pulled the trigger.
DG101 damn
That comic strip of that scene should be canon. After Kylo kills Han. Chewie has a killshot but he remembers Ben Solo as a baby and a kid. Playing, caring...then he couldn't bring himself to kill Ben so he shoots him in the hip.
Can you imagine Chewbacca being the main character of an entire 2hr+ film?
Funny thing is that I honestly liked him more than all of the other characters in Episode 7
Fuck yes!
+Ben Grieve there should be romantic comedy with Chewy's family. . . like the first few minutes of the holiday special, but 2 hours long. . . and of course without subtitles.
+Ben Grieve It would be like the Christmas Special
+Ben Grieve A lot of subtitles in that film
Drinking game: take a shot every time you hear the word "spoilers"....
seriously. say it once and put it in the title. people will get it
+Corey Eacret Uh, I'm less than halfway through and nearly ready to pass out... So... many.... "spoilers"....
+Corey Eacret i think from all the years of podcasting hes done now he literally can't help himself. it's essentially a nervous tick at this point. I wonder if he says it in conversation even when hes not talking about a movie.
+Corey Eacret An unsurvivable game, unless you can afford your own paramedic with medical transfusion apparatus.
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SPOILERS: Hey, Kev, as much as the bloody handprint adds to the dramatic atmosphere of the Stormtrooper scenes, I think a more important part is that it visually distinguishes Finn from the other Stormtroopers. Without it, you have a bunch of identical looking troopers, and your audience keeps having to think about whether the trooper they are watching is the traitor or someone else.
+Vincent Sontohartono yeah, he's black. so what?
+MisterDevos Wearing a helmet in full gear....
***** oh my, you're smart! FYI i was joking -.-
+Vincent Sontohartono i think he got that...they honestly could have did multiple things to make him distinguishable from the rest...but that visual in particular was beautiful...with how art works, the flow, contrast, compliments and the over all story telling...the story telling on a few different levels...like many other scenes in this movie it was a stunning shot.
+Vincent Sontohartono For me him having no neck make him easily distinguishable, lol... he stood out for me right away. Loved the movie and Fin, but he looked goofy in the trooper armor.
Fun tidbit: The stormtrooper that Rey mind tricks is played by DANIEL CRAIG! in the credits his stormtrooper name is JB-007.
I love kevin he seems almost afraid of talking about the film. Really reminds me of the beginning of "The Gladiator" where Marcus Aurelius talks about the future of Rome ;-) you can almost just take the word "Rome" and switch it with Star Wars.
"There was once a dream that was Rome. You could only whisper it. Anything more than a whisper and it would vanish... it was so fragile. And I fear that it will not survive the winter."
Deep pull
+Kasper Mygenfordt I avoided all images, posters, trailers, toys, and rumors about the film before release. After I saw it, day 1, it still was second nature to me to look away from any Star Wars content that I saw. It's a hard habit to break, after so long.
+Kasper Mygenfordt damn it.. going to go watch gladiator now.
A small but very important detail in the ray kylo fight is how enraged ray looks in her face as she is overpowering him. Ppl dont like how she beat him, but how many times have sith talked about hate and anger giving power. And thats EXACTLY what she was tapping into. And maybe thats why the ground splits them apart before she kills him.
What the shit are you talking about? Kylo Ren isn't even a Sith and Rey is most definitely not a Sith, let alone a Jedi.
Im talking about common themes found throughout star wars being integrated into the actors performances in a specific scene of the movie...?.... Did I ever say Kylo is a sith? Or that Ray is? I was making an observation, spaz.
+DuesX187 Stuff like that doesn't get put into the movie by accident. If it was wrong it would get cut out. And JJ had a advisor with him the whole time, a complete Star Wars geek who knew all these little details.
I think you've found a major plot point for the next movie.
+DuesX187 Yes, I saw her get a sneer on her face as she butt-whooped him & I sat up & took notice. She looked like Luke in a rage when he clobbered his Pop. That's when the Emperor said: 'your anger's made you powerful'. Rey will be tempted by the Darkside; Kylo will be tempted by the Light. They will tempt each other. By Episode IX, Kylo will convert or she will kill him if he doesn't (if Chewie doesn't kill him 1st).
+DuesX187 It also seems like Kylo wears the mask not only because he looks to Vader for inspiration, but more importantly it's probably to hide the likely common signs of personal inner conflict apparent in much of his character to begin with, that would undoubtedly be all over his face, as it often is without the mask.
i really cant be the only one who realized it was a rehash of the first movie. not an homage, not a spiritual successor, just a fraternal twin to a new hope. why was that necessary? or at the very least, why didnt they make it less obvious? visually it was nice and most of the acting was good, but storywise they could have been more creative and less predictable. it was good but not nearly as good as people are giving credit for.
No, you're not.
Chewie should rip Kylo's arms off.
+dued27 Wookies are known to do that.
Nino Brown Exactly!
+dued27 did u hear what patton oswald said he wantd chewie to do?
Don L Is he the guy from King of Queens?
dued27 yea, that's him. A few days ago on Twitter he said his fantasy is to see Chewy hunt Kylo Ren down with a badass scottish claymore, lightsaber.. lol
I think Rey is a clone created from Luke Skywalkers arm. Whoever found the blue lightsaber also found Luke Skywalkers arm. C3PO said R2D2 is basically dead and needs Luke Skywalker present in order to come back to life. The moment Rey walks into the Resistance base camp, R2D2 comes back to life and wakes up to complete the map. That should explain why the lightsaber is calling out to her at the cantina 2.0. Maybe to a certain extent, the blue lightsaber thinks it's Luke Skywalker. That should also explain why she didn't need formal Jedi training to pull off some of the stuff she did (handling of the lightsaber, almost defeating Ren, Jedi mind trick w/ stormtrooper).
+Hime Najarro I don't know if going the clone route will be the way it will play out, but I give you kudos for this theory.
+shinzu4001 ....the very first scene of the "flashback" is Rey in a laboratory hallway and Yoda's voice in the background. I have no idea how to explain that 🙈🙃👊
+Hime Najarro Holy shitballz that's awesome
+Hime Najarro That hallway is actually Cloud City circa The Empire Strikes Back. That scene is definitely strange, but I think the point is that Rey is having a premonition in which she sees past, present, and future.
+Anti Gaming ....nice catch! 👍👍👍
"Hey did you see that stormtrooper get hit by a rock? I threw that rock." hahahaha
Makes sense you married a beautiful brunette. I wanted to marry Princess Leia when I was kid too . . . particularly Slave Leia because marriage is all about slavery. :/
+ShartimusPrime hahah fancy seeing your page here. i subscribed to you a while back lol
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+ShartimusPrime HELLA WHACKIN' IT!
+ShartimusPrime Word.
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Excellent movie. The only thing that kinda bugged me was that there were no Y-wings, A-wings, B-wings, TIE interceptors, bombers, defenders, advanced, etc. It was just...TIE fighters v. X-wings.
totally agree
Max Landis?
+John Colon I was thinking this before I heard Max Landis bring it up, but I'm glad he did. I wish he would have elaborated on that point further.
It's a good point, but its one of those things where it never seemed like there was an intricate enough battle to need them. Bear with me here. compared to the destruction of the two death stars this one seemed kind of simple, maybe they just didn't need the extra firepower? Just a thought
Lord Tesram I agree with you regarding the aerial rescue during the assault on Maz's "Mos Eisley"...X-wings were enough and A-wings would have been a nice addition but not required. However, the assault on the star killer base had to have Y-wings and B-wings... I mean it was a bombing mission.
Kevin, you are my hero. I could go into a thousand different tales of dark places and even darker thoughts, where everything was brightened by your movies or your Q&A's, but I won't. Instead I'll simply say thanks for being a beacon of positivity as well as hope. You are a great man sir, thank you very much for being you.
One scene I was hoping Kevin would mention is when Kylo seems to be punching his Bowcaster wound in pain to gain more rage while fighting against Rey and Finn. Seeing the blood splatter in the snow as he is doing it. Star Wars is back!!
+Hotshy420 and ray force pulling the saber from him..gave me chills
+Filip Matevski this scene is the scene that clenched the "Rey is Lukes Daughter" theory for me. I've watched it 2x now...going for a 3rd on saturday...and look at Kylo and Rey's faces when "the lightsaber chooses". Kylo is shocked...and so is Rey. Both of them are standing there with "What the hell just happened" looks on their faces.
Earlier when Kylo is digging in her head he says "you've been dreaming about the ocean...i see the island" then we find out Luke is on an Island in the middle of an ocean. In the Cantina...the lightsaber calls out to her and then the lightsaber chooses her.
+Don Naughton Well the lightsaber was Anakin's originally, it's the blue one not the green one Luke made. Kenpbi disarmed Anakin to take the blue saber so it may be possible that Rey is a Kenobi.
+Filip Matevski
Rey pulling the saber from Ren gave me gas.
The one prophesied to bring balance to the force wasn't Anakin or Luke,........ it was J.J. Abrams.
This movie brought back memories of standing in line outside the walk-in in 1977 to see Star Wars. I was 12, there were vendors there hawking Star Wars stuff to people in line, my Mom bought me a Hilderbrandt Star Wars movie poster that I had on my wall for years.
I agree with Kevin 100% about this movie. It's the real deal.
Kylo Ren being "torn apart" and "in pain" (his words) by his internal battle between the light side and the dark side is EXTREMELY interesting.
I love a villain that isn't in complete control and is conflicted, makes for a great character and arc.
I'm a softy so it's hard for me to say I like it more than Anakin's fall (going to the dark side out of love), but I do think it's more interesting!
Kylo Ren is awesome.
Agreed, Kylo ain't no Darth Vader. At least not yet. And maybe Han trying too hard to bring him back to the light actually helped him fall. But you can really tell, at least for a moment, Kylo is genuinely torn in his choice...a part of him wants Han to take the lightsaber...but in the end the Dark Side, wins out. Here we get to see Kylo's darkest moment, and even then he later seems to shows some compassion to Rey. Definitely fitting for a character who identifies so much with Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker, who ended up redeeming himself at the end.
It wasn't exactly confirmed that Luke is Rey's father, but it does seem like it.
+TheEmeraldSword That's true, it's never said in the film or anything, but yeah the way it ends, it certainly seems like it.
+TheEmeraldSword Yeah, it does seem like it. But I really hope there's something more to it. I mean, that's the first thing that comes to mind, right? I'd like them to surprise us. like they did with Kylo! And c'mon, there's a certain amount of reveals involving family lineage that I can take seriously before I start questioning how big this galaxy far far away actually is...
+TheEmeraldSword After watching this film 4 times.. Im almost sure she is Lukes daughter.
+TheEmeraldSword
Does anyone else think Rey could STILL be Han and Leia's daughter? The way Han looked at her and reacted to her seemed very fatherly...maybe he was terrified of telling her about her lineage given what happened to Ben.
Still don't 100% buy that Rey is Luke's kid. The setup and parallels between Rey and Kylo seemed much more brother/sister than cousins.
ALTHOUGH the way that Maz said that the lightsaber used to be Vader's, and then Luke's, and is now her's, nearly confirms that she's Skywalker's daughter.
+keefriff99 plus the vision she had shows Luke, and then Rey getting dropped at Jakku. Its obvious. Especially after watching it 4 times.
the true question is: Why I didn't know this channel existed? daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam son I have to catch up
Kevin Smith's reactions were so much fun to watch! Lol, this movie seemed to heavily impact a lot of people who watched the first 'Star Wars' in 1977. I won't blame them since it was seriously something that no one has ever seen before until that movie came out.
Just want to say Thanks to BOTH marc and kevin for providing the awesome fat-man on batman, I have enjoyed listening to passionate people talk about passionate things for the geeks to enjoy. come to florida please
[SPOILERS] I disagree about Rey. Let's compare her to Luke from A New Hope: Luke loses his family, his home and a mentor and destroys the Death Star to become a hero of the rebellion; Rey loses nothing because she starts from nothing, and spontaneously becomes a Jedi who saves a lightsaber. Finn and Poe are a better representation of Luke's arc from A New Hope split into two characters. Rey's character is overpowered. _Oh, did we forget to put a Jedi in for the obligatory lightsaber duel? We'll just give it to Rey. She's saved our characters from all their other problems._ Luke was an inexperienced young man. He was a bit whiny, young people are whiny. It gave him room to grow. Finn and Kylo Ren are the most satisfying characters in the movie because they struggle and change as characters, which makes them relatable. Rey doesn't change as a character. She has spontaneous Jedi powers, but how does it change her character? She was already badass, now she's more badass. Did you see her fly the Millennium Falcon? That was badass. She's capable from the beginning to the end. She's has the attitude of Leia + Han Solo with the power of the force comin' out the wahzoo. She's almost certainly Ren's sister.
Wow I am kinda shocked you had to sit front row? I would have thought you could have seen it a better way? a preview?
I am guessing tickets were sold out?
+HappyConsoleGamer Johnny! Wierd seeing you here.
+HappyConsoleGamer Oh. Right. I should also say that according to Twitter, he got an invite to the premeir but he had a comedy show to go do, so he had to see it like the rabble.
JazGalaxy Ahhhh okay! That makes sense!
+JazGalaxy Not really "comedy show to go to". He had a show TO DO.
Anybody remember dude promised kev he'd put a reference to clerks in star wars on a podcast?
The first line of the film was, "This will begin to set things right again." If that isn't a middle finger to the prequels, I don 't know what is.
The prequels are awesome, the final 20 minutes of 'Revenge of the Sith' still punch me in the gut.
Honestly I thought the sanitation line was a reference to Space Quest, that old Sierra PC game.
+the7thlevl Yup, when Finn said "sanitation," I immediately thought of good ole Roger Wilco!
"Scarface"
+ParadoX DestinY 1972??
+the7thlevl I actually thought that Sanitation wasn't about being a janitor but his unit was in charge of "Sanitizing" villages and enemies of the First Order. How many janitors get training with blasters? It also explains why he is so scared of the First Order, and doesn't hesitate to blast his former squadmates.
+the7thlevl I think sanitation was just being a janitor BUT all Trooper are trained to kill regardless of their domestic duties or assignments on base.
You didn't talk about the *SPOILERS* amazing part where Kylo Ren is trying to use the force to get into Rey's head and she fights back and she never heard of Darth Vader but she tells Kylo Ren so clearly "you're afraid you'll never be as strong as Darth Vader" that part gave me major chills and I think it's pretty awesome how Kylo Ren is the opposite and is fighting the light to be Dark JJ did amazing in this movie sadly I hear he's not directing the episode 8
4killerCurtis yea that's what gets me so nervous about episode 8 I don't understand why they didn't just let JJ finish up 8 and 9
+Stephanie Avila wait, disney isnt LETTING JJ or JJ doesnt want to return?
+Stephanie Avila JJ has said that he did not want to move to London and be away from his kids for 10 years. This way he sets the tone and Executive Produces the universe from LA.
+Stephanie Avila right..Kilo Ren is essentially reverse Vader
Hes directing quite a bit of tv shows too i think especially Breaking Bad such as The Fly and Ozmandias episode. The OT had different directors too.
That reveal of Poe coming in and taking out like 6 tie fight and a couple stormtoopers then Finn yelling "That's one hell of a pilot!" gives me goosebumps every time. Even typing about it.
Chewie shooting Kylo Ren is even more powerful when you think that Ben grew up with Chewie in his life. He probably held him up on his shoulders as a kid and shit. That's so powerful to think.
When Han gives his son the last look confirming I still love you Whewwwww heartbreaking! @kevinsmith
What is wrong with so many people on this feed - I've seen the movie four times with multiple different people of all ages and it's just tremendous - a wonderful, fun, blast of a ride with great acting and some nostalgia and the STAT WARS I've been waiting for since I was a kid. Lighten up / this movie was tremendous and the trilogy will be amazing.
Give it a mark out of ten now and remember it as time goes on.
+Curt Leng I just saw it for the fourth time myself this past weekend. A really wonderful film and I love it more and more each time.
+boxing fan Maybe you should take a step back and see how much artistic heart and imagination put into it.
+Curt Leng Just my perceptions, I saw it yesterday and was absolutely thrilled and touched to the core.. to me it was amazing , epic and fueling the sense of wonder again!
+username8756 Thinks he could write, direct, or act in a movie. Talk shit once you've actually accomplished or produced something
Kevin god dammit do you own any shirts that aren't jersey's?
+DarkDisturbedDex Kind of looks like he's been losing weight recently.
+Lord Tesram Sweater. ;-)
+Lord Tesram I'm willing to bet he has a trench coat.
+Lord Tesram well it's either that or tents
+Lord Tesram At least it's not that same Fatman jersey he lived in for years.
I always laugh when Kevin says spoilers at different points of talking about spoilers
Why is everyone raving about Abrahms work? Honestly the movie was good, but not great. It was safe, it took a similar story arc to a New Hope, and kylo is a hipster looking cry baby who should of kept his mask on, Phasma was a joke, and the fact that both Finn and Rey can use a lightsaber with no training and take on Kylo who is suppose to be a trained Dark Force user who can cleary stop a blaster shot in mid air, but can't defeat a untrained force sensitive Rey? Makes no sense! Also after how many years the best thing they can come up with is a bigger death star called star killer!? Very original..... Honestly! and wait, it gets blown up by finding a weakness with X wings! We have seen this before in new hope and Return of the Jedi, and now here. Think of some new shit! There is no need to recycle old shit. I hope that the next two are better cause this one wan't anything special if you really cut it deep with a knife. I love Star wars but this just didn't do it for me
+B DON Bang on!!
To be fair about the light saber fights, Finn gets his ass kicked and while Rey seemingly wins, Kylo was likely injured from Chewy blasting him.
+RossardJames Finn when he faces the Stormtrooper and first uses the Lightsaber as a weapon he seemed too comfortable at times with technique etc like he has used one before. He even knew how to turn it on. It would of been better in my opinion if some how he was panicking to turn it on and at the last min as the storm trooper comes and goes in for the attack he manages to accidentally turn in on killing the trooper. He ran in balls to wall with that thing. Even though Rey is Force Sensitive and strong with the force like Luke and Anakin, she became too comfortable to quickly in using it with absolutely "NO" training. Luke and Anakin both needed training from Obi wan and Yoda to control their powers and she finds out the force is real and goes hmmm I'm a give it a shot and see what happens and over powers a stormtrooper and Kylo in retrieving it? Also why didn't Kylo stop Chewys cross bow blast like be did before in the movie? Kylo was pre-occupied at that point too :)
+B DON Not only that, but Kylo paralyzed Rey with the force when he captured her. Did he suddenly forget how to do that when he fights her and Finn at the end of the movie?
+ClockworkSlave lol
Did ANYONE notice that Luke was standing in front of a grave looking down at the tomb stone when Rey finds him?!?! It has to be Rey's mother.
+clovis2012 i saw that stone....was it a grave?
+clovis2012 I wondered about this too. I've seen it twice now and still couldn't quite make out if it was indeed a grave or not.
+clovis2012 He was actually pissing off the cliff. That's why it takes him a while to turn.
+clovis2012 Just saw the movie again. . . It's most definitely not a grave lol... it's a stone... And Rey is not a Skywalker.
+P t'd be stupid if she isn't
Fin is Lando Calrissian's long lost son.
Face it, Lando's gonna have A LOT of kids across the Star Wars universe.
nope thats po
For me, the biggest mistake in this last trilogy was that Luke and Han never met. Such a lost opportunity!
This review is a 40 minute extension of the joy of seeing the movie. Nobody else could have brought this to life like you did here. I teared up watching your review as much as I did watching the movie. Anyone who sees the movie should follow it up by watching this.
Absolutely frikkin' AWESOME. May the Force be with you!
"A real star wars film for the first time in 30 years". Holy fuck, am I the only person on earth who loved the prequels?
+jacobcook7 Force Awakens was worse than the prequels, and I hated the prequels.
+jacobcook7 Yup!
+jacobcook7 No, but it's become so much the cool thing to do to hate on them that few people probably even bother to express the opinion anymore.
As to this review, yes the movie gets the old feel of SW, but not much more in my opinion. It's very shallow in terms of showing anything really new and I've had no interest in seeing it more than once. But I saw Phantom Menace several times when it came out. TFA feels more like a reboot/introduction to me now for the hopefully more interesting movies to come.
No, you're not the only one who loves 1,2,3.
I think it's funny how Kevin Smith says here that he's not back peddling and enjoyed them when they initially came out..but then back peddles by saying he recently rewatched them, grimaces and says "Yipes."
lol
Nah, you're not the only one. But as far as recapturing the feel of the original trilogy? The prequels managed this feat MAYBE a few times across all three movies. But Force Awakens did this with just one film. It's all opinion of course, but to me, the prequels really didn't matter. We already knew how they would end, and what we got seemed like 90% phoned in money-grabbing crap (thanks Lucas) with 10% left for an actual interesting story. Now Star Wars is going into completely new territory, and for a lot of us that's exciting...for others I suppose it's scary.
+Kevin Smith 29:11 the moment you re-opened my Han moment & made me cry all over. That entire scene tore me apart.
These guys deserve so many more subscribers, they're so much fun.
Great flick. For those who feel Rey is "too perfect" now, keep in mind she also has all the Luke issues from Empire that Snoke can exploit - too old, a strong emotional connection with Finn already that Snoke could *easily* manipulate to get her to do something stupid, & when she finds out Han was her either uncle or dad who was murdered right in front of her the dark side anger should rise. She's the chess piece Snoke is gonna want; Luke has his work cut out to keep her centered.
Love your analogy of JJ as BB-8! So right on!
I thought the temper tantrum was just hilarious and kinda took away from his being a badass... it made him seem like a child.
+Aditya C That was the point....to make him a 3 dimensional character and not simply a cool bad guy.
+Aditya C - in a sense he kind of is. He's chosen this Dark Side path for some reason, and his whole deal is that at some level he hasn't entirely come to terms with that. He's desperate to prove to himself and to Snook that he's this force of pure evil, because deep down he knows that he's not.
I think even killing Solo isn't going to do it for him. It's gonna be one of those things where he thought doing this thing was finally gonna seal the deal, make him the man he wanted to be. But even that can't change who he _is_. If anything, he's probably gonna be feeling guilty about it, it's gonna be staring him in the face reminding him every day that he's not the guy he wants to be.
Ya Kylo Ren is an interesting character. I dug _that_ . Agree with the Fatass Man on that at least.
These are all interesting points, which I hadn't considered. I guess we should all wait anyway to see where they take this character, in 2017, with Episode VIII.
+2legit2sh!t No.. it's to make him identifiable to the new all important market. Whiny, emo angsty teenagers.
"[Rey]'s not whiney!"
Were we watching the same movie, Kevin Smith? She ran away from a vision. Luke didn't listen to people, and he abandoned his training at a few points, but he did it to save people. Even when he was being selfish, he was being a hero. Rey just ran the fuck off into the woods. And why? They could have done the whole imperial sequence without that. She could have stayed in the bar, and gotten separated during the assault, and then all the rest of the scenes could have remained the same. Instead she got scared and ran, serving no purpose except to satisfy the conditions of the Hero's Journey.
+joffrecordan Her only weakness seems to be in discovering who she really is. Other than that, she's perfect.
+joffrecordan Yet, if JJ hadn't had her do that, folks would crucify her as being perfect even more than they already do.
+joffrecordan Seems like Rey can't win with some people. Some say she's a Mary Sue and others complain she rejects the call to action for selfish reasons. She has a character arc and doesn't have to be super heroic for 100% of her first film, and to point out the obvious: running away from something is not whining. She never whined once in fact, she showed genuine fear of that vision (understandably so, it was pretty upsetting and replayed a very painful memory for her as well as showing a massacre by the guy she will be face to face with very soon). She is a different take on the hero archetype which Luke also fits into but isn't she just isn't Luke.
"I trust JJ Abrahms with my life!" I LOL'd XD
The movie was fantastic. Ignore the haters...they complain it was too similar to Episode IV, yet they also complain the Prequels were too different!
Good Lord, some people just can't be pleased at all
I liked the prequels more than this film. I thought this film was incredibly lazy and rushed. The prequels would have been much better films, had they casted someone else for Anakin, gotten rid of the Gungans, and had diminished the Anakin-Padme relationship and removed all the stupid dialogue.
To fix this movie, I would just suggest rewriting the whole plot.
Torre Florim your actually stupid. First, this film had 3 years in the making. Second it tried to play safe. Third it was fantastic
Am I the only one who thought it wasn't very good?
No dude it sucked
One thing I noticed in this film was the deepness in the characters.
For example, I felt like I knew Han Solo way better only on this movie than on all the other 3 movies with it. Just simple things, simple dialog lines, but masterfully written, that made all the difference in knowing the characters. Rey and Ren are excelent characters! Really complex and misterious. Finn was also very well accomplished, being the first 5 minutes enough to know about its personality.
Overall, that's what I loved the most in this film. Of course, the acting was top notch, which helped a lot in what I mentioned before.
I am very surprised at the amount of negative reviews I've seen for Force Awakens. I'm glad Kevin Smith you agree with me that it was awesome. And even though I didn't see Star Wars until it was rereleased in 1997; it (VII) made me feel like a kid (I was 9 back then) again. And the more I read about it (and seeing it a second time), the more I loved it. I want to see it a third time!
Ive watched it twice by now. Cant wait for the third time! :)
And ive been thinking. Just as a standalone movie, i think it can be viewed by anyone that havent seen star wars before.
I just think though, because i have seen all SW prior.
What you guys think?
Can you show this to someone that doesnt know SW? And it will do well? I believe so.
Its so well done. The atmosphere, the music, the timing, the acting.... all of it.
I hate this movie.
Loved the Stormtoopers in the beginning being transported to the surface. Sort of reminded me of what Stormtoopers would be in a Starship Troopers dropship scene, or the Marines going to the surface in the Aliens movie except with a Star Wars feel. Probably more like Starship Troopers.
I f*****g love you, Kevin! You're the man!
I swear Mr. Smith. You and I feel exactly the same way about everything especially this new movie. You review it exactly like I talk about the movie. lol
And you obviously cringed when Han gets it like I did the first time. The second time I watched The Force Awakens I didn't look away and it was gruesome watching Han Solo impaled. I missed that and a touching little touch on Kylo Rens face. Ahh the feeling He must have felt knowing his son just killed him. I couldnt imagine. This movie probably gave me every emotion possible you can feel. Even non star wars fans say it made them feel like kids again. love it
+Noah Cocke I had a hard time processing the rest of the movie after that. I did manage to focus right there at the end. A co-worker of my friend came with our group and that guy was crying. We got up at the end and i was like man, i missed a good five minutes or so of it because it pissed me off so bad. He was like, yeah i don't know how to take all of this, and then he just left. Poor fella.
The John Travolta version..right?
Finally someone giving a positive review, I feel the same way about it that you do. These movies will never be 100% what we want so we just have to get stoked on the parts we love about it.
Rey is Obi-Wan's kin. Maybe not direct kid.
if this is true...first off, you are beautiful human being for thinking of this. also, how bleeping awesome would that be?
Brian Alvarez It's what makes the most sense. My buddy who is another big Star Wars nut said that Ewan McGregor's voice can be heard in the flashback sequence during Force Awakens. Idk if that's true, but imo Obi-Wan makes the most sense. We know that Luke had been training a new generation of Jedi after Vader was destroyed and we all know that the Jedi code forbids love and relationships as we learned from the prequels. And since Luke was such a die-hard Jedi would've likely followed the code in order to focus training the Jedi. Obi-wan living so long by himself on Tattooine he might've had a relationship despite being a Jedi himself but his circumstance being so different from Luke's might've deviated from the Jedi code to pursue a relationship. Obi-Wan makes more sense than Luke. Besides, after we find out Luke and Leia are brother and sister it would be kind of lame to find out that Kylo Ren and Rey are also siblings. Learning more about Obi-wan's past on Tattooine to reveal that he had a kid would make more sense and be better for the story.
+zamardii12 I feel the same way. Rey is Kenobi's granddaughter.
The reason Han acts the way he does is she is spot on just like Padme/Leia. She reminds him of his lost love.
Louisville UAV JJ Abrams in an interview even said that they used Alec Guinness's voice and Ewan McGregor's voice on top of each other during the flashback sequence when they say "Rey, this is the first step." Cements my theory.
+zamardii12 I think Obi Wan died a virgin. Like Jedi should.
I'm going to see it for a third time this week. Best star wars movie yet.
do you think we'll find out anything about rey's parents in the next movie
+113089Drummerboy Yes but, If not, she will just be a person born into the force like Anakin was
After watching it for a 4th time I couldn't agree with you more
stop being a cringey hipster. so fucking cringey
Cegesh get the fuck outta here
I'm 47, I saw the original Star Wars in the theatre at like 9 years old, perfect timing, original fan. I liked it. I recognize they had some familiar things like, how many familiar things were in the Fast And Furious films ? They're taking you back to a familiar place, some things need to be familiar. Too much, too little, whatever. Not important. I like the new movie. It was fun and it felt gritty like the first three. Okay the first two lol thumbs up for force awakens from an OG fan. Looking forward to what's next ✌️
Funny, I felt like Chewbacca's reaction to the death of Han was too mild. He seemed to scream louder on Hoth when the base doors closed and fought harder when he was about to be frozen in carbonite. It was a really good movie, not as good as any of the original trilogy but better than any of the prequels. And it was nice to see a new Star Wars movie that was not just all "green screen" overload like the prequels.
It's not fair to a movie goer or the movie to automatically compare it to the OT. I hold the OT in high regard, as well. But mainly because it blew my mind I watched them from the ages of 4-10 and never looked for plot holes and flaws (although the OT is full of them) in movies. I had nothing to compare those movies to as a kid, because they were the only SW movies that existed. Now, they're like old friends of the family I've know for 38 years. Now they just introduced a pretty cool member of their family that I think just met, but I haven't known that family member as long, so of course I'd be closer to the the older friends. Doesn't negate the fact that that new friend is still pretty cool. Plus, as a kid, I didn't nitpick. I just had a blast watching fun amazing SW movies. Going into this, I pre-set my brain to that mindset and came out of the theater ready to get back in line for TFA again and can't wait for the next one.
+Eric Ruby Yeah, this is what I keep saying. You can't really compare this movie to the old ones when there's 38 years of nostalgia build-up, or simply from when you were a kid at any point in time. I first saw the original trilogy when I was 3-4 years old, back in 94-95. TFA just can't measure up to that. Even so, I freaking loved this movie, and the generation that's been introduced to SW via TFA might love it as much as the fans of the originals love them.
+The Uncanny Mike Chewie is a old man. Give him a break. :)
Kev, Please PLEASE erase the word "spoilers" from your vocabulary. People watching the video in the first place are not going to care about spoilers. So you dont need to say it 50 times.
RESPECT FOR YOU KEVIN SMITH
THIS WAS THE WROSE STAR WARS MOVIE EVER. A KID WITH NO PARENTS(LUKE/REY) LIVING ON A DESSERT PLANET, AND IS GIVEN A LIGHT SABER BY A WISE OLD PERSON, HAS A FIGHT AT A BAR, AND ESCAPES WITH HAN AND CHEWIE WITH A DROID WITH TOP SECRET PLANS. VADER/KYLO KILLS OBIE/HAN(MASTER/FATHER), WHILE ESCAPING WITH A GIRL LEIA/REY, AS A GROUP OF X-WINGS DESTROYS THE EMPIRES SUPERWEAPON BY FLYING DOWN A TRENCH TO ATTACK A WEAK POINT. AT THE END, LUKE/REY GOES TO TRAIN WITH YODA/LUKE. IF YOUR A MORON THAT HAS NEVER SEEN "A NEW HOPE" THEN U WILL LOVE THIS REVAMPED VERSION. THE SPEICAL EFFECTS ARE GREAT BUT ITS THE SAME STORY....HOW HORRIBLE!!!!! HOW PATHETIC ARE YOU THAT YOU CAN'T COME UP WITH ANYTHING NEW!!!
+jettesjettes Fanboys are never objective. Don't let it get to you. People freaked out about how great The Dark Knight Rises was too until they thought about it for a while and realized how un-Batman it really was. Same thing will happen here once the "new" wears off.
I feel like star wars is doomoed cuz all we have to look forward to are re-writes of the olds stories and jar-jars. This new star wars should be canned-canned. How can the combined powers of Lucas and JJ not create a new story??? there is no hope for star wars,. Darth Jar-Jar has taken control
+jettesjettes Even though they straight copied ANH, they couldn't even build the characters like ANH did. VII was so rushed. Pew pew pew, nah I'm outta here yo. Pew pew pew I think I feel something tingly inside me. Pew pew pew Nooooooooooooo. Pew pew pew oh look Luke Skywalker.
Rogue One really kicked its ass.
HAHA, loved listening to Kevin Smith's review of SW:TFA - it was so funny listening to his description of scenes. Brilliant!
Sooo this movie was to please Movie fans and Casual star wars fans who know nothing of the EU and neglect EU fans and nerds of starwars?
I'm a Star Wars nerd and I'm glad they didn't use the eu. There was too much complicated stupid stuff in it. I can still read my Eu stuff that I like whenever I want, but I'd rather be surprised and not know what's going to happen.
+darthmon26 Disney announced like a year before Force Awakens released that the EU isn't canon.
Disney said way before this movie was released that they were ignoring most of the EU....read up before you post.
Kevin what are you talking about? Luke and Rey are complete opposites. No that I want to get into the Mary Sue thing, but in terms of good character development and getting us to see a person grow, Rey goes through ZERO arc as a person.
+Demitri Salloum She trains Luke in the next one.
I hate this excuse but this is part of a trilogy.....
Gabe O'Reilly even part of a trilogy a movie needs to stand on it's own as well, or else charge me half price if it's just a prologue.
Ummmm what? She goes from being a spectator and waiting for her family to realizing that if she wants her life to change then she has to do it herself- and the "family she is looking for is not behind her, it's ahead"
As someone who is new to the Star Wars universe, I absolutely enjoyed everything about this movie. The prequels didn't have as big of a negative impact on me because I knew this one was coming, but wow, this movie blew me away. And I never realized how badly I want Chewy to fuck up Kylo Ren until you mentioned it. Oh please let that happen.
I realize I'm a few months late on this, but I love Kylo too. He's the Anakin we deserved in the prequels.
How dare you even say that
I really like kylo, but he's not anikan. to put it in as needy terms as possible, kylo is chaotic evil, very emotional and unpredictable; vader is lawful evil, very cold calculating and cruel. young anikan needs a different origin than the terribly acted one he got, but he should be more frank underwood than kylo ren
+S.R. Yeah I'm not into my sith lords crying and getting beat up by storm troopers and little girls.
He's no sith, he beat up the storm trooper, and he fought both of them after taking a bowcaster shot to the gut. Bear in mind he's the only thing in the movie that survived being shot by that thing.
for the record i loved the lazer bowcaster back in ps2 battlefront
Here's some Deep Cuts for you.
Lucas used to talk about "Hero with 1000 Faces" and the Heroes Journey outline that comes from it being a huge inspiration in his early work; The Dark Night Of The Soul portion of the Journey mentions metaphorically going into a dark cave to face the thing - usually fear - that holds the hero back. Lucas took this literally in "Empire..." when he had Luke face the Degobah Vader in the cave while Spirit Obi and not-dead-yet Yoda chit-chatted.
"...Journey" talks about how characters will often kill their progenitor (dad's for sons and mom's for daughters, usually) in order to surpass them and move forward in their journey. Oedipus is one of the better known classical examples of this.
Kylo Ren *has* to kill Solo in order to make the next stage of his journey, as suggest by "Hero With 1000 Faces", one of the core inspirations for the entire Star Wars Universe.
Deep Cuts, bro.
I don't buy how Rey is so gifted in the force before she has any real knowledge of the nature of the force. I liked the part where she pulls the Jedi mind trick from a purely visceral level but again how does she even know about the concept of the Jedi mind trick before she has received any training? She only knew the force as a vague myth but she manages to summon advanced methods of the force through only intuition. Even Luke had to be trained before he could really do anything special with the force. Kylo while not yet a Sith had received extensive training from Luke and later Snoke yet this chick with no prior knowledge of the force defeats him by using the force. Perhaps this will be explained later but for now it makes no sense that she has such knowledge of the force itself. I did really like the movie though and I liked the Rey character but its not above a critique at this point.
I mostly agree with you, but i will point out that Luke summoned his lightsaber in Empire without any real idea that it was possible or even an example to go by. He needed to do it and so the force was with him.
+mercuryman67 Luke at least had some training from Obi. He struggled to get the sabe to move a couple of feet. Rey just instantly grabs it from miles away. Kylo was forcing everything, he was no hack. He made Rey pass out, threw her in to a tree, froze her standing ... Then suddenly she grabs the light saber - pre-wig out. what? then Kylo forgets to use the force to kick her ass. Then, she wigs out mide fight and becomes a jedi.
Why find the map/luke when she does not need any training. Rendered the whole story pointless
+mercuryman67 Luke had training Rey just figured out the force is a thing from a non force user. It's like becoming a pro baseball player from a minute conversation with a guy who coaches mini league it makes no sense.
they will probably explain that in the next film. there are theories that she was memory wiped and she actual was trained with the force
She didn't know of the mind trick. What I noticed was that Kylo Ren was pushing as hard as he can to break her will, and she in turn was resisting as hard as she could. Think of two energy beams colliding and bouncing back and forth trying to overpower the other. Eventually Kylo Ren proved to be weaker willed(although the novelization explains that while searching her mind for the image of the map he stumbled upon a huge secret, which was implied to be the key to her identity and it distracted him) and Rey's exertion overpowered him for a split second and she got inside his mind, hence the Darth Vader comment. And Rey was just as shocked at what she did, but she probably thought if she concentrated enough maybe she could do it again to someone weaker and overpower their mind, hence the storm trooper
Smith's review/opinion means about as much as my cat's litter box when I get back from vacation.
So does yours.
In retrospect- this was Disney launching the sequels with zero plan for the story arc, a soulless cash grab
Palpatine for Rey's father. That's my out there claim.
Either him or Obi Wan Kenobi.
Both of these theories are stupid as fuck.
+Bernie Lomax Hey man, not trying to insult you or anything but there's actually very good reasoning behind the Obi Wan father theory. I can link it to you if you want.
+The Wierzbicki More than 30 years has passed since Obi Wan died. Rey is obviously early 20s tops, so the timelines don't match up at all. So where does it make sense that Obi Wan force ghosted some woman's pussy and had a kid? A grandkid, maybe, but no way he is the father (at least where it makes any damn sense).
She most be a experiment of all the greatest jedi DNA after all the stupid impossible shit she did
MARA JADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maaaarrraaaa JAAAAAADEEE!!! Just imagine if they introduced her and Kylo Ben Ren kills her at the Jedi Academy in a flash back.
+Ewan Lim I know right?! It fixes why Rey is so strong in the Force as well if she Is Mara and Luke's daughter.
+Ewan Lim Isn't that Expanded Universe / Star Wars Legends now?
ToroidalVortexLove So is the "han solo's son becomes a sith" thing but you see they clearly swiped a few ideas from the old EU already. JJ is heavily leaning on the EU to cover a lot of the Resistance backstory and the fact the film really glazes over the First Order destroying the New Republic Capital.
***** Darth Caedus
***** Oh don't worry I never read them much either I just peruse the Wookiepedia every now and then. I think I read Shadows of the Empire, the first Darth Maul book, the book that explains why the trade federation attack naboo better, and the one immediately after RotS about Vader.
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Caedus
Great video guys ,very nice to see a review that doesn't rely on flashy CGI effects ,Just A person talking into a camera, and speaking with passion and honestly, knowledge and skill, thank you.
I loved The Force Awakens.
Awesome movie!!!!!!
+Skipper Tripper ???
+Skipper Tripper No were you?
+Skipper Tripper no because the movie was amazing yes it had the same basic plot as the original but so what. The originals didn't have amazing acting or an amazing story and the plot holes present in the originals are in the TFA.
The acting in TFA was amazing and the humour actually hits home.
If you go into any movie expecting a master piece you will be disappointed. If you think you could do better make a Kickstarter and see how fast it fails
Don't feed the trolls, bro.
+Skipper Tripper every movie has plot holes -_- the only reason you are going on hell bent rage about is because it is Star Wars
'The Force Awakens' and 'A New Hope' are the same film
You are extremely narrow minded if you honestly think that
blaze vigil
exactly the same plot.
Agustín Martinez Nope
blaze vigil
Watch "Harmy's reaction to Chris Stuckman's TFA review"
George Lucas himself said it was a "safe move" and that "there wasn't anything new" in TFA. I'm a true fan, I grew up with the original trilogy and second one was bad, but this one its just for MONEY, a very well done copy-paste.
Kevin smith I don't watch or like most of your movies except die hard one you was in, but as a big Star Wars fan and collector your one amazing fan and lover of these empire of a movie dynasty brother you rock!!!
Did Kevin watch the same movie that I did? While Daisy Ridely was absolutely amazing in her role ,how is it that (SPOILER) Rei was able to use the force while being completely untrained? Luke went through THREE movies before he was able to best Vader. Yet Rei, dare I say it, was "entitled" to the force?? She beats a weakened Kylo Ren who literally stopped a laser blast in min air?? Must I go on? Gimme a break...
TFA sucks! Horribly written. No Focus. Bad Bad Bad! A total ripoff of the orginal film. Plot holes aplenty. Written by a committee rather than a single person with a VISION!
You must have seen a different movie :P
+Videohound very well written movie
+fuckgoogle+ Hmm...lets see...*SPOILERS* An orphan who lives on a sand planet discovers a droid that has secret information hidden inside. The orphan becomes a protege of an older guy who has ties to the events of the past. Theres a cantina scene. Later, the older guy is slain by a dude in black with a red lightsaber while the orphan watches helplessly. Meanwhile, the "resistance" tries to destroy the enemy's new superweapon that is able to destroy entire planets. Yep that took a lot of thought.
Videohound what was the point of describing the story to me? i said it is well written, which is a fact, what has this got to do with the story
+fuckgoogle+ because that is the same plot as ANew Hope you idiot
this is the first mention i've seen anyone make about Kylo Ren stopping the blaster bolt. it was THE moment for me that solidified Kylo Ren as the badass he is. everytime i see it i have to pick my jaw up off the floor.
It's one thing to make nods towards Episode 4, but these writers straight up ripped off A New Hope. So lame, used an entire episode that could have shown us life after Vader and all we basically get is more of the same thing. Say what you will about the prequels, but at least they opened up the universe and made it feel less claustrophobic.
+SuperStig 7 I disagree. I thought the prequel trilogy "opening up" made the saga feel more cluttered. I like the small, focused story of the original trilogy far more. And while The Force Awakens has some similar story beats to A New Hope, I felt that the overall story was new.
You must have not felt correct, i am afraid
+twmcgraw303 Ok u are allowed to have your opinion and all but this plot was a 100% lazy rip off
SuperStig 7 is it not a little bit of every movie from the original trilogy packed into one?
The movie for me was just ok. The movie felt rushed. More emphasis on action and movement of the plot and less investment on character development and time required to even give a crap about them. More time taken to introduce characters and explain some of the plot lines would have been a huge benefit to the film.
Hahaha, "I liked his performance so much, I was like "maybe I should be watching girls" lol, that was exactly my reaction. like damn, dude can ACT.
Snoke... Who's played by...
Gollum.
Lollum.
Terrible casting of Kylo Ren. Could they find a less intimidating actor? I suppose thats JJ projecting
+BC M Hes not supposed to be intimidating that is the point. Hes a poser trying to be like Darth Vader that is why he wheres the mask, but he isn't anywhere near as powerful as Vader.
Exactly. Literally nobody understands kylo ren.
I don't understand why people don't understand his casting. He is supposed to be spoiled misguided kid who idolizes the wrong relative. He hasn't fought any real Jedi, he was strong with the force so didn't have to work for the strength he has. Plus the first order treats him like their golden boy lol he even throws temper tantrums like a child so why would you expect anything less when he took his helm off
+Austin Madore He was a huge puss, worst thing about the movie by far, what a whiny little bitch.
+Casey Moore He through a couple of little temper tantrums like a 7 year old girl. Plus he almost got punked by a janitor stormtrooper. Kylo Ren was just as annoying as Anakin in the prequels. That "you need a teacher" line? Fucking laughable dialogue and acting.
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lol
When was Kylo Ren smooth? On two separate occasions he throws a huge tantrum.
+Bernie Lomax I actually liked that dualism. Most of the time he appears to be a smoothie Mr evil, but he's fragile, tortured...emotionally unstable. So keen to do some Kylo cosplay...
The beginning and middle skirmishes. He was pretty in control sorta compared to the end.
We still haven't seen a chewbacca tear arms off anyone. I wan't to see Chewy tear Kylo's arms off. That would be an ultimate uber tie.
Rey is not Luke's daughter.
so does that mean rey is han solos sons sister?
+Mythical Munch No.I don't believe she's not related to any of the original characters.
She is related to Obi Wan somehow. They both have english accents as the only ones, they are strong with the force, especially mind control of storm troopers, both old and young kenobi yell to her during the flick, and a bunch of other stuff
+Tikten Toft
Her powers was just awakening, that's all.
She could be Palpatine's grandchild, they have the same stabby fighting style. And it could be the hook to recruit her to the Dark Side - 'Luke killed your Dark Side parents' or sth...
I would be so disapointed if Kylo Ren isn't redeemed because its like Han dies for nothing it would be better if he was like a matyr for his son so that he could come back to the light
I feel that theres really no turning back and especially if you have seen the set pics of episode 8
I'm not saying he's going to come back to the light in episode eight. Vader didn't get redeemed until the last movie the same might go for Kylo Ren.
What if it was Kylo's plan to take down Snoke from the beginning and had to sacrifice his father to gain trust from Snoke so he could see him in person and kill him. Remember, he wants to finish what Vader started, AKA killing Sith like Vader killed Palpatine.
*Snoke's voice* we shall see, we shall see... *fades to black*
**Maz Kanda drags Snoke out of the shadows by the ear**
I, too, loved Chewie's reaction to the Han scene.
first order seemed a lot like the nazis to me. Even wondered if this was a deliberate effort.
During his speech on the Starkiller base, i thought Hux was missing a tiny little mustache.
+Evgeni Brosvik I thought it a lot. When they used torches in the village. The end red black and standing before their army. I'm sure there was more but it just seemed like a history reenactment.
+Jpstudmuffin93 not as obvious though. Even fin was a bit hmm FB hmm even what's he called paused before naming him. Like black and FB a little close to the line don't you think.
+experiment54 well it was talked about in the extras from the original trilogy that the empire was supposed to mirror the nazi regime. I would suppose the first order would follow closely.
+experiment54 yes.. that's why therye flame troopers. they exterminate villages.
Review for force awakens...... it was utter garbage from start to finish. The end
I thought it was little more than the most expensive TV Pilot ever made. But I'm in the minority LOL
I did really like John Boyega, Daisy Ridley, and the guy who played Poe. Those three actors and their characters, I really loved. But everything else reminded me of something a TV Development Executive would create by writing story beats on note cards and rearranging them, until he figures out wtf his story is. Having said that, I'm very happy that most people seem to really enjoy it. And I hope the kids really like it.
is it established that Rey is Luke's kid?
+11kingsmash just common sense
Not yet. But it is pretty obvious
+G. Whistler "FACE ME COUSIN"-----KYLO REN
+Cory Weston They could be siblings, Han and Leia's son turning to the dark side was taken from the EU, maybe their other child becoming a Jedi is as well. Not to mention, it seemed like the film established a connection between between her and Han and Leia, she had Han's piloting and engineering ability and Leia's force sensitivity. There was also the bit where Kylo read her mind and saw that she thought of Han as the father she never had, then there's the scene at the end where she and Leia seem to share an emotional bond. My money's on her being Kylo's sibling.
TheRhinehart86 yeah a connection that could easily be Uncle Aunt and niece. My money is still on her being Luke's daughter that he hid away.
TRAITOR!
Also, a great point was made. The locations and costumes were 100% on point. Nothing got to flashy or "new", yet the story was COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. That was the key. The second tril, imo, was relying on the ethos.