Are you sure you want to snowbike?
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- Опубліковано 14 гру 2019
- We ventured too deep, got completely separated in steep and thick trees, and we were stuck all day - by ourselves. All and all, not too shabby!
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I’m 61, been riding/racing dirt bikes for 45+ years. 1 ride 5 years ago and I was hooked. Most fun I’ve ever had on a bike. Never did the snowmobiles. Found a clean 98 cr500 for 2k & put an ARO 120 on it. 8k total. Snow much fun!😎
Right on Lance. Rip it up! :)
CR 500 you put the kit on, is it a four or two stroke? Does it matter which one you choose?
The tree at 9:50 will ensure that your bike will NOT tip over. Perfect fit 😆
Smart idea having the saw !
HOLY HELL!!! Hats off to you and the crew for keeping it positive and pushing through. There were several moments I was uncontrollably cringing and trying to downshift or break at my office desk...LOL!!! Great video showing reality of hardcore tree-riding in some of the most unforgiving country. Best from PURTREK!!!
Jumped on a snowbike for the first time yesterday and I totally feel your pain. Thanks for sharing all of the digging out. I love the trees so my future is clearly laid out before me.
Lol I feel ya.
WOW this looks like an exhausting and fantastic day!!! Deep snow, fun and digging for days! I really enjoy your videos. Get me through the days while waiting for the snow here 🤪 keep them coming!!!!
This is amazing! It’s my dream to get one for my bike and your enthusiasm with riding makes me want to get one right now!
This looks insanely fun!!!
Dang man, I got exhausted just watching you dig out. Looks like you had a blast though!
That was an excellent video, the documentary was specific and kept only to the time that needed explanations. I have been watching tons of UA-cam videos lately and by far this video is among the best. Thank you and I hope your other videos hold the same level of talent. I wish you the best the coming New Year!!!
Thanks Jude! We appreciate the comment for sure! Today's ride (Jan 1, 2020) was a complete gong show. I hope you also enjoy it! Launching tomorrow!
Yes I want a snow bike 😂
Digging out in deep POW, heavily treed, early conditions, (no layering or crust base for the hazards) Having said that, it will only get better as the season goes on and you guys get more seat time. Have fun play safe. The "New Anna" is a tad wounded but plastics are cheaper than your body.
That fluorescent orange suit should be a must for this kind of riding!
Go Giant Loop! Really enjoying your channel- Juan. Subscribed.
Deluxe!
First video i've watched by this guy, unique attitude/temperament and personality, damn good riding and video. Definitely a fan keep it up !
Hey, thanks! You found our most watched video. There are some other gems. if we may say so. :) Welcome aboard!
I love riding, and I love the videos, but I know a feeling of wanting to go ahead and head back to camp.... Getting treed and stuck over and over makes it a relief to head to camp! Haha... Fire and hot chocolate....
Did anyone else notice at exactly 6:16 the front rider to the right of screen lost something of the back maybe a toque or glove or something by the looks of it! Gone for EVER hahah Looking at a 2019 Honda Crf450r with new Timbersled pro on it for my first snowbike setup 👍 I love my Honda's and this particular Timbersled setup comes on it and I'm in Ontario, Canada so hopefully it will work great for me here 👍
Haha was just about to comment that.
Looked like a toque.
Impressive, the Yeti snow attachment appears to work better than i ever would have imagined. It really lets you navigate through some tight areas that would otherwise be impossible, even with a snow sled.
The snow looks really soft and deep but honestly a snowbike doesn’t appear to go as well in deep as I’ve been led to believe. The way some guys talk I was under the impression they were more capable. They look like a real PITA to remount in deep snow. Shifting and dealing with a clutch seems maddening in deep snow, tight woods conditions when you are tired and frustrated.
Love it.
O man that looks fun
Happy Holidays.
Looks so fun. I really want to try out a snow bike it would be perfect for where I live in Montana. I ride from my house straight to the mountains only about 15 minute ride.
First minute of the video and i see two awesome ideas for snow bikes. Radiator turn off, and the winter sides on the engine. Quickly attaches too. I'm not that great on a dirtbike in general, be curious to see what a snowbike would be like.
Thanks for the note! Those are two BOMBER accessories. I hope you get to try this snowbiking thing. The learning curve is WAY more favourable than dirt biking, and the crashes rarely hurt!
Vernon Snow MX this years a practical write off for me. Just had back surgery on Christmas Eve. I have a feeling I would stall quite often trying to pussyfoot around. Lots of stucks from lost momentum.
@@ippielb Hey, all I can say is our mantra around here. We do this kinda stuff every singe day that we can. Life is short, and ya never know what is going to happen. I hope you mend with great speed!
So jelly pooh so jelly!
Great stuff guys love the content I so want to start snowbikeing can you tell me what boots you all love and use .
Well, the title really fits this video. I'm amazed that the places you think are fun to ride that's pretty thick forest.
Our first two rides this season we're much more fun than all that digging out.
Anyway thanks for the video and showing what not to do. 😁👍🏻🏔️🌲🔥
Yup, that’s about how we feel. What not to do! :P
We actually had a great day of riding, then got into some deep snow, slopes, and trees that got a bit dodgy. We figured that sharing our hour of trouble was more interesting than showing what we usually show, which is us shredding the trees like proper Chimps! Thanks for watching, and commenting!
Looks Fun !
If You're adventurous.
I think I would like it in a little less SNOW !
I couldn't afford to pay for damages especially , "Day 1" !
Looks Cool if you're up for Challenges .
Haha at least those plastics come in pairs.
Omg..this is haven of have funn✌✌🇦🇩
Great video. What's your thoughts on a revers trike with the snow bike mod ? Would it work beater on trails ? I'm trying to shop for a toy for my micro camping kit. It's like van life. Les is more.
Wait a minute, I thought snowbiking was all about busting thru the trees etc., that looks like work! My new Ruffian snowbike will be here in Idaho a couple weeks, and as a mountain ski plane flier, I know how much "fun" it can be when you get stuck. The bigger bike track conversions have more power no doubt about that, but since I don't have a bike, or want one, I decided to go with a purpose built snowbike, only 200 pounds so a bit easier to get unstuck, maybe.
Imagine if you could mod the front fender to be a quick disconnect snow shovel.
Interesting note. Also, why do we have a front fender anyways? I think we took it off our bikes like 5 years ago, yet they are back. Why?
I am pretty sure I have the most viewed series of stucks ever! I am shocked to see this at 49k views!
What a fun day!
Wow, we are nearly 100,000 views more now. Crazy.
You shouldve mounted a wynch to it 😂
Broken plastic's and looks like bent bars! Totally jealous!
The bars are fine. Picked up two sets of plastics today from The Snowbike Shop. Time to cut them down do this will be less likely to happen again!
@@VernonSnowMX Awesome! We're just now starting to see the snow pile up in the Cascades in eastern Washington. Can't wait to get out!
Thats so bad ass. why couldnt we have these as kids.
Been riding racing motocross best part of my life didn’t think it got anymore physical till l saw this.dam would love to try this got 2019 crf450 would that ski setup work on it if so how hard to convert and how much€$.
Bomber bike. About $10k and a day in the garage. :)
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DUDE GOOD ATTITUDE JUST A LITTLE RUSTY ON DAY ONE !
Looks exhausting. I'll stick to my supermoto in Florida. Cool video
What would you say the track footage is? Square ft or square inches in travel mode? Working on a different idea.
how much kw need one bike to have so he can pull easy one timberland sled ? Anyone? will appreciate answer
What cc and horsepower are these running? Thx.
Vernon-
Just discovered your channel as i enter my first season in snow biking. I'm running a Husqvarna 501 fe 2016 w/ a 2019 Yeti 129 SS out of Aspen, CO. I just ordered the MSB2 Mojavi Saddlebags based on your recommendation. Would you mind making a short video detailing your saddlebag load out and perhaps discuss what equipment goes on the bike as opposed to what you keep in your pack?
Thanks mate,
-Ry
Cool idea. I bet we can film that this weekend - unless it is sunny!
Interesting bike ya got there. :)
If you were to start with a new build from scratch and not concerned with how much it cost, what would be the best bike and track combination?
There are a bunch of us here in Vernon who are working on "The Ultimate Bike". We all tend to start with an FC450 and a Yeti Track kit. From there, we go in slightly different directions on mods, but we all have the same basic builds. None of us are all that concerned with the costs to get what we want. They end us getting close to $25k CDN (including our many taxes) once done, if all is bought new for the build.
If I hang around the last snowcross race of the season I ask teams what race sleds are for sale ... I end up with the latest trickery that’s been thrashed but continuously maintained .... all for 4-6k$ , about the same price as a snowbike kit .... and I leave snobikes behind
If you rode with us today (not the video above) you would have needed Chris Burandt skill levels on a sled to stay with the pack. It all depends where you ride. Both games are fun. Sounds like you have a good purchasing program in effect. Peace!
He dropped something 6:17 😊
Yes, we saw that. We think it is just the straps flopping around.
@@VernonSnowMX Looks like gloves or a hat or something. Anyways, really nice vid and good enthusiasm 😁✌
@@0sony095 Was a glove for sure,,,, good eye !
holy crap, im tired just watching this vid
awesome 1st ride though
Would like to get a little 250 to do some on and off-road exploring. Probably Yamaha WR 250r. Would this bike be ok as a snow bike, or underpowered? Looking for something that is light weight that can also be used on roads during the non-winter months.
You have found the classic problem. That bike is too small for a snowbike. The best snowbikes are going to be a real handful in the summer. When we used to run one bike for summer and winter we went with an FE 501S which is a big bike, but still pretty ridable on the trails.
How good does the bike start in the cold? You never showed starting cold at the truck.
Hi Zach. Great question. The bikes can be cranky to start in the AM, especially if not charging the night before (which we remember to do most nights). When the don't have a lot of juice in the battery, we use a Micro-Start to boost them. Once the bikes have a little heat in them, no troubles! If it has been really cold overnight, we have a trailer heater that gets fired up in the early AM before we leave so things warm up a bit. :)
where is this? looks like an awesome place.
All of our filming is around Vernon, B.C. We have lots of areas like this. BOMBER!
What was he using to pull the ski in that first stuck? And where do you get them?
Hello Nate! We use rock climbing gear. They are called sewn loops. Super compact. Check out your local shop for different lengths. They are BOMBER!
Go get a snow bungie they are crazy cool you can find them on amazon
We have one of these from our sledding days. Not sure where to pack it on the bikes as we feel kinda full as it is. Great idea though. Hmmm.
Uuuuuu try on a Husqvarna 701 that wil be incane nice video 😁
20 - 30 cm of snow in the forecast.
Looking for a Yeti 129FR kit for my 22 CRF450RX. Who sells them?
Might want to think about adding a rope and snatch block to your kit! Would save your back in the long run
Great suggestion! We have something REALLY COOL to try out this year. It may become standard gear for adventuresome snowbikers! :)
Good video. Why would a man in red overalls need an ABS avalanche backpack with an inflatable pillow?
What gear are you typically riding in? I ask because the bike sounds laboured, like you should be down a gear? I ride dirt bike casually, but not snow so forgive my ignorance lol😂
If you listen to most of our videos, the bikes are really high in the revs in 1st or 2nd gear. Lugging is not normal. Cheers
Engine blanket + 1radiator blocked. Doesnt overheat in the deep stuff?
Hell no. We sometimes still can't get enough heat.
6:18 here goes a pair of gloves :)
So global warming is essentially a myth then, eh? Enjoyed y'alls video immensely. Thank you for sharing!
Canadia ehhhh 😂
These are like a underpowered snowhawk!
Snowhawk was king!!
Not even. Snowhawks were still basically just as wide as a sled, just with one ski. Not even the same. And, most of the snowhawks weren't even 800's, so they were also under powered for how heavy they were.
Bryce Bohman Interesting. I think it would be cool to try one, but I suspect there is a reason they are not still around.
Bryce Bohman
Have you ever ridden one?????
Or this what your friends uncle says.
Wouldn’t it be more fun just to ride a snowmobile. They are better designed for snow and far more powerful
Let's just put in this way. I know lots of people who used to snowmobile, and I don't know anybody who used to snowbike! With that said, sleds would be more fun it it was mostly high speed trail riding. And, there are people who just want max power and hill climbing. Two different games. Got another guy hooked on snowbiking today. Video will go live tomorrow. :)
Doesn’t it piss you off getting stuck mate, it must take some of the fun out of it
This was a few years ago and I still get stuck a lot, even though my riding has progressed quite a bit. I just keep pushing my limits and that of the equipment. Now, in this case, it was not so great because I was really far away from my riding buddies, outside of radio contact, and in unknown terrain. The best thing that I could do was to stay calm and me methodical. The best way for me to stay calm and be methodical was to slow down and film it. Now this is our first video over 100k views. Cool!
@@VernonSnowMX looks as cool as fuck, happy riding mate
Noice vid guys 🤟🤟 pause @ 6:18... Andrew loses something?!
looked like a balaclava
Hey Ryan! Cheers buddy! We think the straps are just flopping around. :P
All that digging.your gloves get wet.cold hands? Grip heaters?
Yup, we have heated grips / bars. They help, but a wet glove is tough to keep warm.
How hard is it on your bikes I wanna do it to my 450 but I'm scared its gonna be hard on it
Being a snow bike is a hard life for a dirt bike.
hi you guys,,, just wondering,, do you need to shift on those snowbike ? I will like to equipe my Yamaha xt 250.. do you think its worth it ?
I don't think your Yammi will have enough power to make the track kit go. Sorry!
After awhile, you'll learn to stay out of the dense trees
Pick lines much?? Seems like the riding is in slow motion but I've heard the snowbikes are slow. what speed are you riding at 20-30 mph?
Dunno much about the speed. Most of the time it is "Fast Enough" for the terrain and visibility. With that said, now that I am more experienced as a rider, I find quite a few times where 50% to 100% more power would be more fun!
At first, I felt snowbikes had enough power. Now, when I am carving more aggressively, I could use some more. Climbing power is another slight limitation at times, however, the awesome side-hilling "Easy Fun" tends to make up for that though. It's mostly just a different, yet super fun game. I rarely miss my sled. Notice that I did not say that I "Never Miss It".
Cheers!
I MUCH prefer the low frequency sound of the 4stroke thumpers vs the 2stroke sleds. The sleds sound like being stuck in the dentist's office or using a router with and aggressive cut bit.
@@4schitzangiggles You are going to the wrong dentist....
@@mikethompson2007 is there ever a right dentist? I just hate the high-pitched whine of a wrapped out 2stroke
What gps are you using
Garmin 610. We have mixed feelings about it.
Too much work for me. Looks like fun, but I'll stay on snowmobiles!
That day was the exception. We genuinely feel that snowbiking is WAY less physically draining that sledding. We did a lot of sledding until we got our snowbikes. If you are happy with sledding, that is great! When you get older and less full of juice, snowbiking may be just what you are looking for. :) Happy sledding!
@@VernonSnowMX Makes sense. I'll try it one day. I'm getting old. LOL
Is it possible to rent adapted bikes like this in Canada ??
Yes, Look up Innerspace Motorsports. They do this. :)
@@DirtChimps cheers for the recommendation though it seems to come up with innerspace water sports and it has a snow division, is this the one ?? 🤔
@@krishampton7060 That's the one! Chad usually has a mittful of bikes available for rent. I think he takes you out and shows you some killer terrain that matches your interests and experience level.
Cool for sure but not sure I could deal with the major lack of power coming from 7 and 800 CC 2 stroke sleds with min 115 hp
Hello Jake. I understand the reservation. We held on to our RMK 800s until we got our snowbikes, and were able to take them out for a good thrashing. We were not disappointed! Both games are a pile of fun! For us, we had to choose one. :)
Some of that looks awesome and some of it looks absolutely the shits.
is this a pointing video or a riding video
What are you trying to ask?
Where did you get the coolant hose shut off? Does your store sell them? I could not locate them and didn’t see this answer already in the comments. Thanks and disregard all the comments about sleds ruling snowbikes. I ride both and they are completely different animals as you guys clearly already know. My favorite terrain is heavy trees on a steep side hill where I rarely would take a sled. Happy riding fellas, might have to head north to get some deep snow if it doesn’t start soon down here in the states.
***Update*** Disregard question above, located the shut off valve and a bunch of other great Snowbike stuff at rmcsnowbikes.ca
The radiator shut off valve should be on The Snowbike Shop website. If not you can email me and I will look into it. VernonSnowMX@gmail.com.
I am with you on the riding terrain choices. Deluxe!
Thats a young mans game that for friggin sure.
I am pretty much 50. Oldest guy I rode with was 67 and he ripped. :P
Definitely an old man's game compared to snowmobiling. These guys are making it look much more difficult than it actually is. Granted it appears snow conditions don't seem optimal for bikes.
@@montanamtnmoto7927 Hey Ted, we don't suck that bad! The snow was not set-up. It was just gong show snow conditions. I'll throw down "Some Moves" for ya tomorrow. :)
6:17 your friend lost something
Yup, Andrew lots his favourite buff from Cardo systems. Bummer!
Full day of getting stuck, I mean riding, right there!! Heck Yea . I am wondering why you turn your radiator hose off?
Building heat in the engine. We want it to be 180 - 220 degrees to be super happy, and offering up full power. The radiators are designed to keep bikes cool in much warmer conditions, and without snow being everywhere1 :P
@@VernonSnowMX Ah, so do you open it back up when you are riding and it has warmed up?
@@arvasnow3962 Sometimes. When the pow is deep and fluffy, sometimes we keep it shut, or 1/2 open. We also have heated bars (a luxury item) but they also play a role in cooling the engine down a bit, and giving us coolant temperature feedback through out hands. I have been riding along thinking "Hey, my hands are on fire right now" only to look down and see I am pushing 250 degrees! All I can preach these days is that temperature management for different conditions is the #1 performance improvement Kung Fu to master!
Is this helpful?
Your from ct?
Dumb question i saw the plate fast and it looked like it.
We from BC!
Buddy lost something at 6:19 🧐
Are you sure you want to snowbike….in the trees? Fixed it for ya!
Carvin Marvin
and thats why it says do u really want to do this..cool tho
6:18 think you lost something blue jacket
Hey get out of the tight trees- have more fun
Yeah, they got a bit tight on us due to navigational errors! We have since updated our personal maps. :)
You need a shovel so your hands don’t get wet
if you dont get stuck, your not riiding it correctly
Understanding that opinions are like a$$holes and everyone has one, here is my opinion on timbersled/snowbikes. I ride both moto and boondock at a professional level. I personally own sleds and my best buddy has a timbersled setup. Ive been able to put some time on his bike and honestly its as boring as riding a jetski around a flat lake. It takes almost no skill to traverse steep terrain and there is no way you can pull that ski up to loft it over obstacles like in moto. He also now wants to sell the bike and get a sled. However I do believe that for certain people the bike is a good fit as they can get to places where they could not while on a sled. For very tight terrain, like the majority of michigans upper peninsula, the bike can get to spots with minimal effort and not have to be running over sapplings like the sleds. I think bikes are cool, but the sled is much more fun! On a sidenote, if you have a racing circut for snowbike in your state I'd get a kit without hesitation. Laying over in corners with a timersled is an absolute blast!!
Interesting note from a 1%-er. Yes, at the 1% professional level I bet sleds are way more lively. They take a lot more skill and they have piles more power, which is fun. Now, for the 99% of us who are not professional-cailibre on sleds, snowbiking is a great way to get out to places that we would likely not otherwise experience. Also, as we each age, snowbiking becomes much more friendly and a great sport that the average person could rip well into their 60s, as we have seen! It's not a lame man's sport, but is a lot more approachable than sledding, albeit not so wallet-friendly.
Personally, when I see a guy on a sled riding next to me who is ripping it up, my hat is off to them. Nice work! They are usually 20 years younger than me, and have not hit as many trees as me, but that is a tangential story.
I appreciate you sharing your opinion! I have learned that my opinions are always "at a point in time". I have completely flip-flopped on many things in my life that I once stood firmly against. Don't get me started!
Happy shredding!
Vernon Snow MX
Couldn’t agree with you more about the age! I’m still in my 20s and don’t feel the aches and pains yet. I definitely feel this would be a great suit for me when the day comes that pulling around a 500lb sled is just to much. I would love to be able to get my father on a timber sled/snowbike so we could go out and enjoy the backcountry together again. Just like you said, snowbikes are a great way to get out and explore! Enjoyed watching your content and discussing the topic with you! Keep on ripping it up brotha!
Electric
Nosiest thing I ever heard!
Snow mobiles rip way more than snow bikes
actually no, Im not sure I wanna now. thats a lot of work. supposed to pick up a new bike in two days and Im scratching my head!
I have been there man that’s how the first ride usually goes but trust me once you get the hang of it you’ll be very glad you started!!
Still alive? Haven’t seen anything from you for a while!!
Just waiting for snow. It's kinda rocky out there over the summers. :P
Yeah I know. I guess when the pandemic started, you didn’t upload. So I assumed maybe they had closed the parks or something. At first here, they were Turing people away/arresting them for trying to snowmobile.
Why did you seem to imply it would be better if the bike ran at 180-200 degrees? Wouldn’t that be bad? I might be old school, just think cooler is better, no?
The bike needs to get up to proper operating temperature to get into the power, and this is the sweet spot. It's like warming up your car before you go out to stomp on it. :)
@@scottchisholm5603 I understand the warm-up, I just didn't think it needed to be that hot. For comparisons, my sled (and most) run at 125-130 degrees most of the time. Go over 150 and it starts to run like shit. I guess maybe because it's 2 stroke?
@@rochboulanger6565 I think you are correct, sir!
Buddy lost his gloves
He lost his favourite buff from Cardo Systems. Bummer!
well this is what happens when you play in the wrong area
Pretty much! We have explored this area more recently and it is surrounded by easy stuff. Going downhill would not have been much of a problem. We keep on learning about our riding area and the micro tough spots that sometimes you want to stay away from, and on other days they become the destination! Cheers.