As someone from the uk, I've always seen the fossils in the crown tundra as being a pokemonified take on the uk's various rewilding projects, which famously includes beavers being reintroduced to our countryside for the first time in 500 years, and within a few years getting declared a native species again as they'd survived and bred in such high numbers
Even after many hours of playing pokemon sword, never did the fact dawn on me that there are indeed living fossil pokemon just walking around. My brain just kinda registered it as normal for some reason
Mega Aerodactyl being the “true form” of Aerodactyl also lends to the fossil restoration theory. But if you bring the anime into it, the fossil Pokémon have always looked like that.
There’s an NPC in the Crown Tundra station who says that there didn’t used to be so many “rockish” pokemon in the crown tundra. I think he could be talking about the fossils being introduced.
What if shadow rider calyrex is the reason fossils exist? Its dex states that it saved the creatures of the forest from a meteor. Dinosaurs used to live in similar tropical environments, so maybe that's likely where the fossil pokemon made their home. If the meteor is what killed the dinosaurs, calyrex reshaping the story may have made it possible that the pokemon obtainable as fossils elsewhere in the pokemon world, never actually went extinct and were biologically treated as a normal species in the crown tundra, just like how a few creatures from the jurassic era still survived post impact.
Have to go back to work but I was listening to the podcast. Hope you're finally actually at 10k and it isn't rounding up. Love you dusty and soul; keep up the fabulous work Lumi and rest of Hidden Power.
Biology major here! I want to add some things that make this theory makes sense to me considering my background: If we were to assume let the crown tundra fossils are not escapees that were revived by human scientists but were relic populations that survived extinction, we would have a fairly big problem, and that is evolution. No not Pokémon evolution. I mean the real thing. Evolution is constantly going on, and if the Aerodactyl we see just never went extinct, we would expect to see that they have evolved differently from their ancestors. Even the much-touted coelacanth is not completely unchanged as some people will have you believe. Modern coelacanth look like a larger version of their prehistoric ancestor, but they have several anatomical differences, mostly to do with their skull. So I would expect that this Aerodactyl population would be ice and flying instead of rock and flying (or dragon and flying if that was the original species' typing). Similarly, Amoura would probably still be ice type but perhaps it evolves fairy typing do better combat Tyrantrum. And like you said, it is likely these fossil Pokemon are all rock types because of an imperfection in the restoration process. Paleontology is a lot of guesswork but it is very educated guesswork. It's why paleontologists are still fighting over spinosaurus. So the thought that comes to my mind when they first invented fossil restoration, the machine was only able to extract one type from the DNA and then got confused by the presence of rock, and it wasn't until several generations later that somebody thought that this was not 100% accurate due to the high volume of rock types being found. After having finished a report on the feud between paleontologists OC Marsh and Edward Drinker Cope, I have learned that ego was a big part of early paleontology in the real world, and perhaps they had the same problem in the Pokémon world. The inventor of fossil restoration took it personally when their machine was accused of imperfection, and there's a Pokémon version of the Bone Wars era, where egos are trumping proper science. So this theory makes a lot of sense to me, and I am going to headcanon the hell out of it
Also omg I’d love to see a pokemon universe bone wars! I would also mention that a big concern in de extinction projects proposed is that many of these organisms evolved to conditions that no longer exist. Like with the Passenger Pigeon, huge swaths of American chestnut and beech that would sustain them don’t exist anymore. I’d love to see a pokemon universe conflict about conservation at some point, maybe as a new goal of Former Team Plasma in the eventual Unova remakes.
@@lillianmystery3149 I 100% agree. I did a paper on de-extinction for a philosophy class a couple years ago and that was a huge point against it in my paper. You'd have to be so careful about which species you bring back and where you place them if you do release them intentionally that is honestly becomes more trouble than it's worth I think. But it would be such a good plot point for a Pokémon game. I'm not going to be able to stop thinking about that now that you've put the idea in my head.
A perfect way for them to explain this would be to have a professor in the next gen or next remake have a bit of dialogue after giving you an item (sort of like that npc in mesagoza who gives you phone cases for past games you’ve owned) and they will have some sort of item to give you for each pokemon game played on that console and for the sword and shield one, they could say something like “oh you’ve visited galar before?! a few of my professor colleagues and I sent a few families of fossil pokemon to the crown tundra to see if they would thrive there a few years ago!”
I've always been curious about Pokémon longevity Especially non-legendary ones We have Agatha and Hala who are old enough to be grandparents and possibly have had there own Pokémon since age 10 unless cycle through them as pass away which is kind of dark I mean Alder did get a new Volcarona after his partner one died but it was ill and not 'old' Regarding Fossil Pokémon, we saw in the anime at least 3 episodes in OS where Fossil Pokémon survived naturally while asleep and/or isolated
Either the area somehow protected said fossil pokemon from dying out or someone had release fossils with both genders into the wild where they proceed to breed and create more of the species.
Theres not really much in the crown tundra aside from that tiny village and most of it isn’t even covered in Snow I always thought of it like a sanctuary and that’s why the fossil mons were there
Yep 100% in agreement
YO, what's up, Toby?
Now Lumi has to nickname a Pokémon in his nuzlocke as Toby
@@mazharsiddiqi7288 That's a cool idea
You love to see the bird keeper dropping in. 🦅
@Tristan_Shuler Don't you know about the bird?
As someone from the uk, I've always seen the fossils in the crown tundra as being a pokemonified take on the uk's various rewilding projects, which famously includes beavers being reintroduced to our countryside for the first time in 500 years, and within a few years getting declared a native species again as they'd survived and bred in such high numbers
Great theory. It makes absolute sense as to why we see them here and not somewhere like Paldea or Unova
Even after many hours of playing pokemon sword, never did the fact dawn on me that there are indeed living fossil pokemon just walking around. My brain just kinda registered it as normal for some reason
Mega Aerodactyl being the “true form” of Aerodactyl also lends to the fossil restoration theory. But if you bring the anime into it, the fossil Pokémon have always looked like that.
There’s an NPC in the Crown Tundra station who says that there didn’t used to be so many “rockish” pokemon in the crown tundra. I think he could be talking about the fossils being introduced.
What if shadow rider calyrex is the reason fossils exist? Its dex states that it saved the creatures of the forest from a meteor. Dinosaurs used to live in similar tropical environments, so maybe that's likely where the fossil pokemon made their home. If the meteor is what killed the dinosaurs, calyrex reshaping the story may have made it possible that the pokemon obtainable as fossils elsewhere in the pokemon world, never actually went extinct and were biologically treated as a normal species in the crown tundra, just like how a few creatures from the jurassic era still survived post impact.
The Pokédex entries stat the fossil Pokémon have been revived and leaving from the people afterwards.
Have to go back to work but I was listening to the podcast. Hope you're finally actually at 10k and it isn't rounding up. Love you dusty and soul; keep up the fabulous work Lumi and rest of Hidden Power.
I am! At 10,072! I appreciate it! Thank you for the support :)
Biology major here! I want to add some things that make this theory makes sense to me considering my background:
If we were to assume let the crown tundra fossils are not escapees that were revived by human scientists but were relic populations that survived extinction, we would have a fairly big problem, and that is evolution.
No not Pokémon evolution. I mean the real thing.
Evolution is constantly going on, and if the Aerodactyl we see just never went extinct, we would expect to see that they have evolved differently from their ancestors. Even the much-touted coelacanth is not completely unchanged as some people will have you believe. Modern coelacanth look like a larger version of their prehistoric ancestor, but they have several anatomical differences, mostly to do with their skull. So I would expect that this Aerodactyl population would be ice and flying instead of rock and flying (or dragon and flying if that was the original species' typing). Similarly, Amoura would probably still be ice type but perhaps it evolves fairy typing do better combat Tyrantrum.
And like you said, it is likely these fossil Pokemon are all rock types because of an imperfection in the restoration process. Paleontology is a lot of guesswork but it is very educated guesswork. It's why paleontologists are still fighting over spinosaurus. So the thought that comes to my mind when they first invented fossil restoration, the machine was only able to extract one type from the DNA and then got confused by the presence of rock, and it wasn't until several generations later that somebody thought that this was not 100% accurate due to the high volume of rock types being found. After having finished a report on the feud between paleontologists OC Marsh and Edward Drinker Cope, I have learned that ego was a big part of early paleontology in the real world, and perhaps they had the same problem in the Pokémon world. The inventor of fossil restoration took it personally when their machine was accused of imperfection, and there's a Pokémon version of the Bone Wars era, where egos are trumping proper science.
So this theory makes a lot of sense to me, and I am going to headcanon the hell out of it
Also a biology major very excited by this video and was about to leave a similar comment. Very cool to see others here :)
Also omg I’d love to see a pokemon universe bone wars! I would also mention that a big concern in de extinction projects proposed is that many of these organisms evolved to conditions that no longer exist. Like with the Passenger Pigeon, huge swaths of American chestnut and beech that would sustain them don’t exist anymore. I’d love to see a pokemon universe conflict about conservation at some point, maybe as a new goal of Former Team Plasma in the eventual Unova remakes.
@@lillianmystery3149 I 100% agree. I did a paper on de-extinction for a philosophy class a couple years ago and that was a huge point against it in my paper. You'd have to be so careful about which species you bring back and where you place them if you do release them intentionally that is honestly becomes more trouble than it's worth I think. But it would be such a good plot point for a Pokémon game. I'm not going to be able to stop thinking about that now that you've put the idea in my head.
Oooh these are great points! Love getting actual biologists weighing in here! Thanks for commenting! :)
@lumiosepost I'm not an actual biologist yet hahah (still got classes to finish) but I appreciate your enthusiasm for my comment!
A perfect way for them to explain this would be to have a professor in the next gen or next remake have a bit of dialogue after giving you an item (sort of like that npc in mesagoza who gives you phone cases for past games you’ve owned) and they will have some sort of item to give you for each pokemon game played on that console and for the sword and shield one, they could say something like “oh you’ve visited galar before?! a few of my professor colleagues and I sent a few families of fossil pokemon to the crown tundra to see if they would thrive there a few years ago!”
I've always been curious about Pokémon longevity
Especially non-legendary ones
We have Agatha and Hala who are old enough to be grandparents and possibly have had there own Pokémon since age 10 unless cycle through them as pass away which is kind of dark
I mean Alder did get a new Volcarona after his partner one died but it was ill and not 'old'
Regarding Fossil Pokémon, we saw in the anime at least 3 episodes in OS where Fossil Pokémon survived naturally while asleep and/or isolated
I’ve never been a huge fan of spin off games but I think there’s a lot of potential there for a fossil based spin off game . Love the work!
Either the area somehow protected said fossil pokemon from dying out or someone had release fossils with both genders into the wild where they proceed to breed and create more of the species.
I always wondered! Thanks for the video❤
Theres not really much in the crown tundra aside from that tiny village and most of it isn’t even covered in Snow I always thought of it like a sanctuary and that’s why the fossil mons were there
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Cool theory video
They are probably invasive and reproducing hardcore lol I could see lord helix being invasive 👀😂
I agree with you
You are a UA-cam Fossil Lumi
Nice Dragonite Figur ❤
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