The BANNING of SLAUGHTERHOUSE 5
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3:13 the whole "taking books out of school libraries does not mean you and yours can't read them if you want; just buy them" sentiment also has an undercurrent of classism. There's something insidious about trying to keep knowledge and ideas of any sort from people unwilling or unable to purchase it.
Yup! I went off about the classism thing on TikTok yesterday
I was thinking the same. Glad I'm not the only one who noticed it.
The Kurt Vonnegut library and museum actually does fundraisers to get the book in the hands of children who get this argument, lol! Not an overall fix, but I love them so much for it
This is ALWAYS my takeaway when I hear this drivel. "Keep the poors stupid please!" s/
There are so many gross layers to this
Especially since we’re talking about high schoolers who are old enough to want to explore things without asking parents’ permission, but don’t have much money for themselves. So if they don’t have public library access and their parents don’t want to buy them books, they’re stuck.
If people operated by the logic of “inappropriate content should be removed/age restricted from public schools & libraries” to justify book banning, then most, if not all, of the classics required in English/Literature classes/curriculum would therefore be banned.
People are literally banning maus and to kill a mockingbird
It's already happening, but for sinister reasons instead.
So it goes.
The book banners want kids to be raised with only Biblical stories and missionary biographies, like my school had. I didn’t lay eyes on Shakespeare until college
Objectively speaking, the Bible would be banned too by that standard.
@@alisaurus4224 shakespeare is too based for them
"We're asking age- inappropriate books to be removed."
Or...
"We don't want to actually monitor what our children are reading and have conversations with them about the subjects in the books we object to."
Or...
"We don't like books that encourage children to develop empathy for anyone we do not already have empathy for, and we also heartily disdain books that encourage young people who are becoming adults to think for themselves and develop critical thinking. That's dangerous because they might disagree with us."
It's not 'everyone's rights are preserved', it's YOUR rights are preserved. If a parent doesn't know about a book, how can they show the child? If younger parent doesn't know about 'Slaughterhouse 5' how are they going to show their kids?
This is 100% about suppressing ideas and values outside of what these people personally believe in. I remember learning about another time in history where books were being banned. I think there's a book on that somewhere.
Farenheit 451 is the one ur thinking of. Its kinda an absurd book when you actually read it but the ideas are all there. its a lot less just about banning books and way more about the mental rot that comes from corporatization and the promotion of cheap thrills and drugging away all your problems, but the book thing is a huge part of how they keep the people complicit, because they dont teach them history or allow them to consume anything that isnt what they want people to be viewing.
Funny this book is about someone who is dealing with the horrors of WW2 and Mom's for dumbassery is quoting Hitler and trying to literally ban books like Nzis. They're so heinous.
the only reason they want books like these out is because it will make kids THINK, be antiwar and not take what conservatives say as fact. so it goes
Trying to redefine book banning to only be removing from publication is like saying political disenfranchisement only occurs when the right to vote is revoked. As though deliberately making it difficult for certain demographics to enrol, be able to reach a polling place, have the time to vote, have access to postal voting, be denied water when queuing isn’t disenfranchisement.
Well said
I read this in high school English class and really enjoyed it. Those lines are not what stood out from my reading. "My name is Jan Janson, I live in Wisconsin, and work in the lumbermill there." That stood out. So it goes - that stood out. The Tralfamadorians stood out. The pointlessness of trying to change fate, that stood out.
As a Wisconsin kid who grew up with a Wisconsin dad, he quoted this line a lot. He loved Vonnegut.
Hi! Student of the Brevard county and the Bayside High School you mentioned here! One of our AP English teachers is fighting all the book banning. He opened up a free library near a church where anyone can go and borrow any banned book! He also advocates for us to read these banned books on our own time (with parent permission) for extra credit! He loaned me his own personal copy of Slaughterhouse five and Maus he has spoken on a news show in New York this year about book banning. I’m honestly going to miss him now that I’ve advanced out of his classes
I love hearing this!! Thank you for telling me 🥹❤️
I hated this book when I had to read it for my Contemporary Literature class, but it should not be banned.
Oh hell no,,,,, it’s such an excellent anti-war text, in my honest opinion. If people read it they’ll realize the cruelties of wars and we can’t be having that oh no 🙄🙄🙄
I’ve gone through PTSD, not from war, but god the metaphor of PTSD with time travel is so accurate to what PTSD meant for me.
Doesn't Slaughterhouse 5 refer to the Dresden bombing, showing how the Allies committed their own atrocities in WWII?
It’s so tone deaf and classist to say “just buy it” - maybe you don’t let your child have a library card and just buy all their books if you’re so rich and out of touch you think this is such a viable solution!?! Sorry this just makes me so mad and sad. Great video and great work - love to see it ❤
slaughterhouse five is one of my favorite books, so disappointing its happening to it, book banning goes against everything that vonnegut stood for
It's interesting just how many of the banned books are part of the curriculum in 9th and 10th grade here in MD. I read nearly all of the ones that have been banned or restricted as part of English classes between 8th and 10th grade. We've had people pushing for book banning here and they've been essentially laughed out of the room thankfully.
@@shannonspeakmanmaxwell2155 I was thinking the same thing about Maine, almost all of the books I read in my AP lit class were banned books, and they’re the ones that really stuck with me. I wonder, would books get removed from AP test lists once they’re banned?
Hi, library assistant from the UK here. The constant focus on the 'rights of parents' is fascinating as when we deal with book banners, the rights of the child outweigh the rights of the parent (I think this is the case of every country except the US (due to the UNCRC)) so we make efforts so that if a child wants to read a book their parent disapproves of, they can access it without fear of retribution. We once got in trouble for limiting a child's access because the parent was using their card to get free reservations (child reservations free, adults £1) so the fact that the child's right to learn and educate themselves is never mentioned is wild to me!
So it goes.
I've never read Slaughterhouse 5, I'm not a reader and due to mental health I cannot handle a lot of things, but I will be damned if I won't defend a person's right to read this book. You made brilliant points and the one that sticks with me is "You only want to talk about war when it's being glorified". They're the people who don't give a shit about homeless veterans. They don't give a solitary fuck about what veterans have suffered through. They'll smile in their face and say "Thank you for your service" but will never take a moment to consider what trauma that "service" you hold so dear cost this veteran.
And i was going to comment this before the museum said it: Moms of Liberty have absolutely no fucking idea what "liberty" means. by all definition if they cared about "liberty" they might be progressive LIBERals because that's what the fuck is in the name. instead liberal feels like a slur and they wouldn't dare turn to progress.
I clicked so fast when I saw it was about a banned book. Mother is feeding us well today.
Vonnegut is one of my favorite authors because he manages to pack such a punch in books that are tiny. Slaughterhouse 5 has stuck with me as a favorite classic since high school because of the frankness with which he addresses the atrocities of war, rather than glamorizing and glossing over the details in favor of appearing as a patriot.
Banning a book like this is just another piece in the puzzle that erases the reality of history.
I read this book my senior year of HS. While I really disliked this book, it had nothing to do w the quality/writing style of the book and everything to do with how it was taught. I recall even now, how ill-equipped my teacher was to actually speak on these topics in a sensitive and educated manner (for context, when we read the Kite Runner she didnt immediately shut down the r*pe scene as gay when asked by a student, I, as an 18yo, had to explain the difference). As an angsty teen, I felt terrible reading about someone slowly succumbing to psychosis from their terrible ptsd from the war (or at least that's how I interpreted the alien abduction). Having said all of that, I cannot imagine banning this book, even with it being taught poorly. The lessons and story in it are so important, I would absolutely fight to keep this book in schools/libraries. You do not have to like a book to understand it still has valuable lessons. So it goes...
“If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it’s not a chicken you’re a book banner.” I need this on a T-shirt 😂
I read it for a summer HS book club. I barely remember it but I do remember liking it. I didn’t realize it was so controversial. HS students can and should read about war and its consequences. I used to spend hours in my school library after school because it was easily accessible in a way that public library wasn’t. Taking books out of school libraries means that many students won’t be able to read it all.
Mike Pence designating a Banned Books Week is absolutely BONKERS.
I went to university in Kansas. At the time, I was aiming for my English degree. There were some specialty courses, like the really cool Gothic Lit class I took, British Modernism, and a Banned Books class.
Keep in mind, this is the most Kansas part of Kansas. We read The Color Purple, Slaughterhouse-Five, and The City and the Pillar. It was both extremely funny and extremely sad that when we read Vidal, all but one person and me discussed it with the professor. Imagine being conservative and a Kansas native and being a captive audience to people discussing gay shit. Otherwise, you could hear a pin drop, and honestly that's the energy I wish these absolutely wackos would experience.
so it goes, now I must read The Slaughterhouse Five.
as a childless person who wants to have children, I am terrified at the prospect of their education. I am terrified at what may or may not happen in these coming years, and that fear is one of the things preventing me from feeling I can finally have a child. I feel like I’d have to homeschool simply based on the rewriting of history that I was taught, versus the information and knowledge I now possess after public education. it also baffles me that people who do not have children in the school system are allowed to *attempt* to control what other children have access to.
I am thoroughly grateful to watch these kinds of videos, I love your content and have begun recommending it to other bookish people I know - ESPECIALLY parents!!
I NEVER saw Slaughterhouse Five in an elementary school library. I don't believe I even saw it in my middle school libraries. I wasn't even aware of the book until I was in high school, which is arguably an appropriate age to read the book. I didn't read it until I was a young adult, but that's just because I didn't have a copy to read and didn't think to borrow it from the library. It wasn't until my younger sister did an english project on the book when SHE was in high school. Kids learn about the wars very early in their schooling, cause "'MERICA!" and as they grow older what they learn gets a bit more detailed. They should be allowed to read about a semi non-fictional retelling of someones real experiences during war. I remember Night (that was the Holocaust book right? Be Eli Weiss?) being a required reading book for my freshman year of hs. Tons of Shakespeare was required reading, Lord of the Flies, Of Mice and Men, etc, and those books could also be argued as "inappropriate" according to the objections put on Slaughterhouse and other books people try to ban. We shouldn't shelter young adults from the harsh realities of the world. It will only make their transition into the adult world that much harder. Will only make growing up that much harder. Horrifying things happen in life, have happened in life, and we can't pretend they haven't or won't. Oh, the bible! Yes! If these books should be banned for their content, then the bible should be as well! But we know those people would be offended if that arguement was brought up because god or whatever. Life is life, don't teach your children and young adults that its anything else. It will only make it that much harder and painful for them to learn on their own.
Why are we allowing books like The Bible in school, but not this? The Bible is full of violence, sex, and other inappropriate things. WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?
Just go to the Book of Judges. Mass racial slaughter, attacks on women, and rushing around punishing those who are not of the Chosen Faith.
For the children bedtime reading! ♥️
I read this in high school. In my AP class. I live in California however, and our state actually protects us. Our state government basically said book banners can F off.
You have the laugh of a queercoded anime villainess sometimes and I am so here for it 💅✨️
Pretty bold of you to assume they even know who Niemoller is. I doubt they even read the poem or so it goes.
You make an excellent point
Oh my God I am BEGGING mom's for liberty to get a life, a hobby, anything to keep their noses out of other people's kids lives.
Two things:
1) These moms for liberty clowns complaining that books read by high schoolers are inappropriate for children reminds me so much of how the other kids in my not-fundie-but-pretty-close Christian private school weren’t allowed to watch anything that wasn’t harder than Nick Junior baby shows well into their teens. They literally all sang the theme song to a new show for preschoolers that had just come out the year before one day in 6th grade PE. Bet some of them are book banners themselves now.
2) Slaughterhouse 5 is my go-to example for why people should go back and give ~The Classics~ a shot outside of school. Other comments have already broken down the incredible anti-war message, the unstuck from time aspect works as a brilliant illustration for PTSD and how Billy ‘always ends up back in Dresden,’ and the stuff with the aliens is just funny. But the moment I always remember (spoilers) is a bit towards the end, during a time after the war, where Billy hears a song about reminiscing on good times and breaks down because he has no good times to remember. Not even because of trauma, just loneliness. It’s one thing to seek out and read a book because you assume you will be able to relate to it, but there is something to be said for being sniped with a moment of connection out of nowhere from a story written decades ago by someone you assume you don’t have much in common with about a subject you will never experience.
I didn't get to read Slaughterhouse 5 in school (so it goes), but I read it a few years later; I loved it. I'm so surprised by the list of complaints you read; Vonnegut is one of the greats of American literature--but these people don't have a drop of curiosity between them, so I guess it shouldn't be surprising that they're still whining about him sixty years later
Kurt Vonnegut’s books were integral in getting my brother (who isn’t much of a bookworm like I am) back into reading, mostly because he had previously read and resonated with Slaughterhouse Five in high school. It was and still is an important book. I can understand taking it off of a required reading list for class, but banning it is just ridiculous.
Also: L8R G8R is getting challenged too??? Holy heck that’s ridiculous too. Keep fighting the good fight against book banning.
I got "So it goes." tattooed on me from this book. I read it for school my sophomore year, in Southern California, twenty years ago.
The way I speed-clicked on this video!! I just had to read this for school, and actually liked it, and I don’t typically like school-assigned books
So it goes
I read this book during my American Lit class. I even wrote an essay on the motif "So it goes", one of the essays I am most proud of, and I only wish I'd heard of this book sooner.
I first read Slaughterhouse 5 the summer before my senior year for an honor's English class. I don't think I fully appreciated the anti-war aspects of the book as much as I do as an adult, but I think as someone who had experienced trauma, there was something deeply relatable about the sci-fi aspects of this book, being "unstuck in time" and how absurdly cruel and hopeless the world can sometimes feel. I think other books we read, like Elie Wiesel's "Night" (10th grade) and "Native Son" (summer before senior year) to be more shocking. This was in 2011 in rural Ohio, and no one said a thing back then, although I bet they would now.
I agree with your points about attacking the school and local libraries. Especially in communities without robust public transportation or well-funded public libraries, the most kids will get comes through their school. I don't believe for a second that someone who got a ban through at a school district would stop short at blocking access to books through the public library either, and one of the ways they do it is through those bullshit age restrictions (for instance, placing books about sexual identity in a higher age grouping so kids/teens won't see them). We do have *a little* more hope of kids accessing digital books through Libby if they or their parents have library cards, but especially in rural communities a lot of people don't have home internet or smart phones (I know folks that still have flip phones or who don't buy data plans for the prepaid phones), so e-books aren't going to be as accessible for them.
Not surprised M4L is trying to ban this considering their track record, but I'm still saddened by it. I have vivid memories of checking out both this and All Quiet on the Western Front from my school library at 15, devouring this on the school steps, and being absolutley blown away after reading the final page. Those two books in combination with the 2016 elections and coming to terms with my own queer identity are what made me politically aware. I feel sad that kids are losing out on such lifechanging experiences with literature due to these book banning campaigns, but parents like you who continue to fight the good fight and stand up against fascist censorship give me hope for the future for sure. I'd LOVE to see your full review on Slaughterhouse Five, and I think I'm due for a re-read myself :^)
I grew up in Brevard county, went to Melbourne High School, and read Slaughterhouse Five in my history and Catch .22 and it was honestly some lit that shined a beacon on our minds in a county that prides itself on violent anti-intellectualism, ignorance and bigotry. My dream was to be a teacher in my community, but the school system is just so horrendous that I couldn’t ethically bring myself to teach… lies to keep my job. I had to move to NE (after 8 generations in Florida, not counting the Muscogee) and I wish I could return to my homeland everyday. These kids give me hope, and if any of them see this post I want them to know there’s people in their county that care about and support them. The people who destroyed our home will not succeed.
I read Slaughterhouse Five as a teenager. It has been pivotal in shaping how I cope with both painful and joyful moments in my life, both the ones that happened before and the ones that happened after I read it. Slaughterhouse Five is one of the first places I was introduced to the idea of being present in the moment to fully engage with a life that, at the time, I was trying to skate through in order to avoid my pain.
Fuck book banners.
It's so great to hear that you gained so much from it. I imagine Kurt Vonnegut would be pleased.
THEY TRIED TO REMOVE FREEDOM WRITERS?!?!?!? The book that kids GOING THROUGH HELL actually wrote themselves and got published??? Ayiyiyiyiyi. Simply typing that title brings about such complex emotions that turn into full blown tears thinking about those kids, the movie, too, and everything surrounding it.
That one letter challenging their understanding the word, “liberty” is so good. Every time I hear their dumb group, I cringe at how far they are from such a title. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I’ve been following your struggle against these maddening people since the start and I look forward to the change you will bring!
Or so it goes
They say they want to protect children but they ban the real life story of a child who was kidnapped and abused. Doesn't make sense.
I love all of your videos, but I especially love this ongoing "series" of talking about books that are being targeted by Moms for Liberty! As someone who grew up with private school education in America that wasn't as sheltered as yours (I went to Catholic schools) but also wasn't public school, I haven't read most of the books you've covered so far. And it's a shame, but I'm not really planning to add so many books to my TBR right now, so seeing you talk about not just the book itself but also taking the time to dismantle the arguments book banners are using has been SO helpful!! I truly appreciate the work you are doing and hope to be able to utilize it in my line of work soon :D
I immediately had an ad for a mega church after your closing credits 😂 so it goes
So annoying that book banning is still going on - moms of "liberty" drives me up a wall!!! Thanks for standing up to them!!!
so it goes! little portuguese comment to help you practice i suppose lol obrigada por falar desse livro, tenho alguns livros do kurt vonnegut em casa que nunca li porque imaginei que seriam leituras pesadas e você me fez querer ter coragem de ler mesmo assim. afinal livros "pesados" têm esse peso porque experiências humanas podem ser ruins e ao mesmo tempo ensinar muito e ajudar o leitor a processar seus proprios traumas. li alguns livros bem pesados na adolescencia que me ajudaram a continuar viva, basicamente. thank you rachel for fighting for books :)
I love Vonnegut. I found his books when I was in high school or possibly earlier. I can't imagine having had anyone trying to control what I could read back then, because I often read above my age level and things that may have been inappropriate for my age. Reading was the best part of my childhood and teen years, and I hope it can be that for more kids in spite of those book banners.
As a French person, the fact that students cannot go to the public library because they cannot walk or take public transportation is flabbebasting to me. Ofc, there is place in France where car is kind of mandatory... but kids has bycicles then and it is not concerning most of the population. The US is wild. Good luck, I hope Socialism will be a thing for you at some point.
Also, wild how much you talk about book banning... aka, how many books are discussed to be banned. The fact that you need to make that many videos is... not great but love your video. Continue !
Also I had to come back because- those gruesome bits in the beginning? They didn't even really happen within the book. There's a sociopathic dickhead in Billy's unit, and those gory descriptions with the honey and the anthill? The guy was describing to Billy what he wanted to do to people. And within the book it is presented as a bad thing! You're supposed to take from that that combat and power related positions can attract fucked up people who want to do fucked up shit. They're pointing to a bad guy and saying "oh no! He does bad things! We must protect the children!"
so it goes
looks like I have another book I'll have to read 👀thanks as always for the analysis and for how passionately you defend people's rights to access books
There are so many things I could say. I have started and deleted this comment multiple times, what part of this book could I possibly bring up to say how special it is to high school students learning empathy. I am from St John's county and I am actually teary eyed to find out that a county so dear to my heart restricted it. The article I read about it quoted a parent: "It’s such a waste to me that we’re spending time defending these great books instead of dealing with real issues facing our kids in our schools today." Slaughterhouse Five is a fantastic piece of literature that I personally know got a lot of teenagers into reading. It has smart, funny commentary that still hits hard today and it has so many parts that I still think about, a decade + since the first time I read it. Good on the Vonnegut museum for putting their money where their mouth is and getting copies into the hands of high schoolers.
I've never read this but i do have to say the passage you read that booklook chose as being inappropriate about the aliens studying Christianity really struck me. If i _did_ read this book, that would 100% be a part that stood out to me. I feel a bit shook by it actually. I never thought about the fact that Jesus was well connected because he was the son of god. They were right that the generations to come saw it as being well connected is the reason they should be outraged. If he really had been nobody, no matter how profound his message and wisdom, it would never have been remembered. He would have died completely unknown and never made a mark.
i don't know if anyone mentioned this but it bears repeating, Slaughterhouse-Five is important for many reasons one of them is that it's the first work of fiction that mentions what happened to gay people during and after the Holocaust.
At this rate, they might even try to ban Crime and Punishment because that gets pretty graphic with the murders and also one dream sequence and Sophia/Sophie (depending on the translation) is a prositute. (I understood Crime and Punishement as a commentary of people who use the superioity and othering to excuse hangious acts in both status and in religion. The Main charater is also a perfect example of an Incel. And don't fool the whole "I am saving my soul" thing and religious as the themes as people seem to mistake it being as they're part of the unriliable narrarator. I has a good ending at least... for the reader. Not for the POV charater. I blame the other translations mistake these things because the Signit Classics version actually tries to be as accurate as possiable and explains the naming convensions for Russia.)
So excited for this video!! 'All this happened, more or less' is my favorite intro to a book ever.
I actually read it for high school. Amazing book, "unstuck in time" is burned into my brain
Rating system for books? There already is one. You have picture books for infants through toddlers, picture books for children starting to learn to read, middle grade fiction that are categorised by age group, reading level, or grade level, young adult fiction, new adult fiction, and adult fiction. One should assume that if a book is included in one of those categories, they are appropriate for that age group.
These fascists…
Keep up fighting these people, Rachel. You are doing good work!
I really wish book banners a "go step on a mile-long track of Legos"
I'm curious, would you consider what happened with the Dr. Seuss books a few years back to be a form of book banning? I know they were removed from publication due to problematic content, but it seems to me that removing the books from circulation is a terrible way of addressing the issues in those books. I was working at a library when all this was happening and I remember there being so much conflict and discussion both among staff and from patrons; we even had people trying to bribe us into selling them copies of the affected books! I'd be very interested in a video on that topic if you're willing!
This would be a good video! I think that since it was the people currently in charge of Seuss’s books, they were simply choosing to do something different with a product they own the rights to, and it wouldn’t be considered censorship or banning. If an outside party had forced them to censor it, that would raise concern.
Bout to go order this book from the local queer indie bookstore.
Man I love seeing that you have new videos, I listen to them while I’m at work lol
For a second the thumbnail had me thinking that it might be reasonable. I'm only just watching the video, but I'm sure that there is a good reason you're talking about this.
I mean, slaughterhouse sounds like a book that should be read by maybe 16 or older on first sight. Obviously HS, but I think that just like they teach us about WW2 AND WW1 (German HS student here) in Germany heavily without censorship, they shouldn't censor books with historical information. If I'm not wrong I haven't read it, correct me if it's actually reasonable to ban, but I think this book may have educational value for a history analysis. There are lots of horrible examples showcased in literature and a book ban doesn't seem reasonable for something that is trying to teach a valuable lesson.
Besides despite the possible differences in world views for some (be it religious reasons, science whatever) in an older book about WAR AND CONFLICTS, it has always some value to learn from.
Honestly there was a reason why classics are classics, cause they somewhat reasonate with people like Kafka who comments on human behavior or Jane Austin who commented on social class system in her century while also criticizing alcohol consumption which no one bats an eye about. SO how is a book that talks about HURTING other people who haven't tried to attack others the choice to be banned. Like oh, yes, ignorance is great, let's just ignore why this book was made (to educate about pain and suffering) and oh surprise, to learn from the mistakes in the past and avoid the consequences that come with them
it is probably the closest media to something that is truly representative of the idea of being "anti-war" that i've ever consumed. it is, in my opinion, one of the most important books (if not the most important) that is taught in u.s. public schools. i read it as a 17 year old in AP English II (senior year advanced placement) along with books & plays like frankenstein, king lear, medea, and brave new world.
It's very popular in English lit and history classes! I'd bump your age span down a bit, it's reasonable for some 13/14yos and this is a case where I'm not especially worried about a kid who isn't mature enough yet reading it. The first chapter is pretty dry, comparatively. Sexual stuff isn't especially graphic (comparable to a PG-13 movie, not R), there are references to (gasp) gay people, and quite a lot of swearing- nothing I think actually defines Slaughterhouse 5 as inappropriate in a way other common high school lit class staples aren't.
@inklingofadream Ah, yes in hindsight I agree. It is good to know that others share their opinions. I think that books that manage to convey a good message I. e. anti war and or cruelties and why they are wrong are important to show to learn from them and NOT repeat the same mistakes or recognize similar patterns
@@GrayYeonWannabe That sounds great, I might as well give it a shot. It sounds like a good way to expand arguments why war is horrible.
SO IT GOES...! I read Slaughterhouse-Five in high school and don't remember anything. This video made me want to reread the book. I think I will get more out of it now than I did back then.
Dang another book banned 😑 i am happy i get more reads with Rachel videos though this channel is amazing 👏 🎉
Glad you covered this, book banners at these local settings are just fascism from the bottom up. Awful and evil.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE LOU TALK ABOUT THIS BOOK!!
Ew. I'm in Washington and I looked up moms for liberty out of curiousity, they seem to have 4 locations up here as well.
Make sure you vote for Governor this year, especially in August Primaries. Semi Bird is a former Richland school board member and is now MAGA endorsed. What do you think he'll do with the anti book banning legislation Inslee has been working on? The two leaders on the primary ballot are both extremely conservative. Mom's for Liberty has put up signs supporting both of them in my home town.
@@TiffReadsBooks I'm in Kitsap county, I actually just moved here from Chicago last summer and have just recently been looking into the political landscape in the state/ county since I can vote here now, some of the stuff I'm reading is completely crazy!
@@alyssseilah ya its definitely different than our reputation as a blue state. It's really mainly King County and really only King County because of Seattle. Inslee has put in some good protections in his last term for women's health and reproductive rights, lgbtq+ rights, and other things but who knows whats going to happen next year
i just looked them up for tennesee and we do as well.. i shouldn't be surpised though. its Tennesse, but sad
Oof that's really worrying. I grew up on the east side of wa and it's been getting worse every time I visit. It was center but it keeps going more and more right wing. The second round of local elections after Trump was put out of office had almost no liberals on the ballot. Only center and right wing. I wouldn't be surprised if at least 1 of those branches is there.
i've never read Slaughterhouse-5 but i'm honestly considering it after watching this video, LOL
Hold on lemme read Slaughterhouse-Five real quick and then come back.
So it goes.
I'm not a parent and I'm very lucky with access to books where I live but shit I will never not appreciate the work you do.
Oh man, my high-school library had a copy of *A Clockwork Orange*. M4L would've had a field day with that. At the time, I was the only student ever to check that book out. No other copies in the school. Kinda relevant, in that it shows how few kids sought it out.
Pretty sure I turned out fine. I've never done the old in-and-out on anyone unwilling, never done a bit of ultraviolence... (I volunteer at an animal shelter, ffs!)
The book isn't great by Burgess's own account, but it's there. And it affected me, but in an overall positive way. And I lived in fucking desolate-ass suburbia, where my school was 10 miles one way, with no sidewalks for part of it, and the closest library 5 miles the **other** way, with no sidewalks and especially dangerous roads to walk on the side of. And the nearest bus route to my home was a mile away with that dangerous path in the way. From my school, it's *possible* to get to the library by bus but would take about two hours to go, again, roughly fifteen miles, and that's assuming no wait for the one bus needed that goes by once an hour and only on weekdays. Completely untenable for a student wanting to get a book unavailable at their school.
Idk where I'm going with this. I hate these people. Thank you, Rachel, for speaking at your school board. Fuck censors. Fuck those restricting thought and knowledge.
‘We’re not banning books, we re just banning books here’
my so it goes tattoo requires me to watch this video! i LOOOOVE this book!
Excellent video.
And so it goes. This book wasn't in my high school curriculum but I want to read it now.
Please make a video with Lu! You guys are great, it would be só much fun!
thank you for this video. i was only aware of this book by name, but not its themes or significance. definitely gonna read it! so it goes
so it goes
Julia is badass
We need more Julia’s and less julies
So it goes. I need to read this book. In 9th grade, my teacher included it in a collection of books we could choose from for our final papers. But she chose three students to write on books she hand-picked for us based on our work that year. So I never got to read it because she was impressed by my paper on Elie Wiesel and had me read and respond to Survival in Auschwitz instead.
So, it goes 😅it is messy. Hope the banned book week content comes. I never heard of the book. Going to add it to my already long TBR
One of my favorite books!
How dare we expect book banners to read the library rules.
I read this book many a moon ago. I hated everything popular so while everyone was salivating and orgasming to shadowhunters I read this
When are they banning Catcher in the Rye?
probably as we type
@@paisleepunk I don't doubt it. They hate literacy and critical thinking
In the wise words of Rage Against The Machine, "they aint gotta burn the books, they just remove them."
There's a reason why they don't want the younger generations to read this timeless book. There's a reason why this book makes them clutch their pearls. This only further proves that this is something everyone should read.
Weeeee vídeo novo 🎉🎉🎉🎉
once again, raised by my mother who would never bother to consent with ANY thing i wanted to do, including read. What happens to kids who have parents shoving indoctrinations down their throats? Suffocating them with false information, conservative perspective, and religion? What about kids raised by parents who dont give enough of a shit about them to let them read? My mom barely even came home to feed us. Do they suspect she cared that i missed field trips cuz she wouldnt sign forms? Or that she would sign an approval for me to read?
Not only that, but what about books that i read that helped me understand her abuse? Or my sexual trauma. What happens to kids being assaulted (i was 6 BTW), who are being told to hide it, to let it happen, or who arent being allowed to understand it? I needed those books (books like speak, or a child called it). I don't know how i would have survived without them.
This isnt a perfect world. I'm instead teaching my kids what is appropriate for them, to help them learn and make decisions for themselves.
hey rachel whats the book in your background that has the word "infinite" on it? to the right of you in the video. i cannot for the life of me read the rest of the title but the cover is so pretty and im curious
An Infinite Pull by Taylor Simonds!
@@ReadswithRachel thank you so much homie 🙏ur a real one
So it goes!
This mostly made me wanna read Slaughterhouse 5
The freedom to PAY for whatever you want. The freedom to consume. That’s all you get.
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I will forever of having a the memory of reading both Number the Stars by Lois Lowery, and The Diary of a Young Girl by Anne Frank, when I was in Grade School. ( this was in the early 90s) It did not scar me for life to read those books at that age, I actually don't remember much of the content of those books. That's what makes the books not "age appropriate" for grade school. The message flies right over your head at that age.
I believe both of those books are banned or challenged at many schools. The idea of banning books that are *against* N@zi Germany, is so weird to me. It feels like they're trying not to say the quiet part out loud by saying books that show how bad things were are wrong.
BRING IN LOU!!! i miss her videos
Read this in my first college level class ever, it was such an important book for me despite how hard it was to get at the time (don’t ask why, I’m not sure either) i liked the narrative, it fit perfectly in my mind
I have heard Brittney Bobbitny(?) name so many times I feel like I'm already a fan lol
FFS.....going after a legend like Kurt....a wonderful Humanist and creative Writer. I love him. I let it run......watched the first 11 minutes and will share but I get too fucking aggravated hearing about bookbanning. Hopefully, you get more watches on your videos. Even if a video doesn´t pique my interest, I like your channel. I let it run, so it registers. That´s not so hard to do.
And thanks for the shortstorie tip. Loved Undercover.
I'm always baffled how people who don't even have kids at a particular school can campaign to have books banned at those schools
And so it goes. I read this book in college when I was 18 and loved it. I’m also amused that the same dummies who try to ban this book are just doing so because some other conservative mouthpiece told them to. In tenth grade I read Lord of the Flies, Brave New World, 1984, and As I Lay Dying as part of my tenth grade English class. Every one of those had far more disturbing content than Slaughterhouse Five in my opinion, but these dolts are probably only aware of 1984 but give it a pass because a commercial made it too relevant.
To support book banning, you essentially have to out yourself as being very poorly read yourself.
I have so much more respect for Lewis Black now.
I find it a joke that a classic is going to be banned while we allow Colleen Hoover in the libraries.